Before the SPL launch headlong into the process of ensuring Financial Fair Play they would do well to look over the water at the Irish Football Association (we’ll leave aside the fact that it’s the Irish FA who are on top of this situation there, but the league who are looking to tighten things up here, as the SFA await the next Any Other Business moment on a scheduled meeting).
Each month, every IFA club are required to complete a form which details information on whether wages, PAYE, NI and VAT have been paid. It also asks if historic HMRC repayment plans have been maintained, whether lenders have indicated they will remove or not renew borrowing facilities and several other questions designed to flush out future problems. Clubs, which are largely part-time with volunteer administrators, are also required to submit audited accounts.
Importantly, clubs must also authorise the IFA to inquire directly to HMRC to confirm details on the form are submitted accurately.
This single form, with authority to speak to HMRC, would have prevented Craig Whyte’s ‘business model’ from getting off the ground.
While the SPL should be applauded for tackling this issue their action must embarrass the moribund SFA. Embarrassment might reach further heights when the SPL call SFA president, Campbell Ogilvie, to give evidence into their inquiry into Rangers’ alleged double contract practice.
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Dave king says that he does not think that Murray new about the ticketus deal before signing
how incredibly daft does that sound
ibleedgreenandwhite1 on 7 March, 2012 at 10:17 said:
Big Joe
This is the same kiddie on Celtic man that sat next to Jim White in the SS studio at Celtic Park and made derogatory comments about the same fans that he claims to be a part of??????
I know……………………………………….
I know…………………………………………….
But………………………………. I still love him, I not like that, the other kind, ex player kind of love and all that.
BigJowstoppinNOW
Bi
MWD
One Nation, as long as there is a rangers…
swindonbhoy on 7 March, 2012 at 10:41 said:
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Charlie Nicholas – The Cannonball kid
He was a hero of mine as well.
A CELTIC-class player IMO!
I’ll always remember how he spoke out against the old board when they(old board) were taking us over the cliff at a time when, our captain was demonstrating why he should never have been a captain IMO!
I’m talking about the Maestro Paul McStay who, imo, would have been in a far better mindset if, John Collins was captain instead .
Hail! Hail!
It was inevitable as Rangers crisis deepened that they would implode and start fighting amongst thermselves.That is exactly what is beginning to happen King and co. have given up on the current Rangers position and are now posturing for position in newco Rangers 2012.So expect more revelations expect more in fighting to take place and expect to see Rangers liquidated and Rangers 2012 new co.being formed in the not to distant future.H.H.
HECTOR – Moonbeams WD. Kano 1000 \o/ Supporting Neil Lennon 100%. Eating Jelly & Ice Cream. Awe Naw… on 7 March, 2012 at 10:45 said:
Hmmmm as we are known to say on this fine blog…
Dave King. Unbelievable. Who is this plonker to pontificate on Our Hero and his double dealings after his own record in South Africa. The fact that he has even had the chutzpah to contact the SFA for guidance on him being a’fit and proper’ person to be a director of a Newco beggars belief! It shows the extent of his arrogance. Whitey’s a crook but I did all my crooked dealings in SA. I haven’t committed any crimes in Sconnie Botland so I’m OK.
Lock him up and throw away the key – preferably in South Africa.
So Dave King says titles won’t be stripped.
That’s that then.
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon on 7 March, 2012 at 10:24 said:
Scottish Football’s New Word – Phoenixing
So why is the process takign so long? Is there a plan?
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The phoenixing process takes 500 years.
http://celticunderground.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=885%3Apodcast-175-carluke-shamrock-csc-meets-tom-english-and-chums&catid=34%3Aaudio&Itemid=58
Very good listen ghuy’s,,,Tom English, Hugh Macdonald and Graham Spiers,,,very good question’s,very good answer’s!!
I only wish Shortbread and Snyde would do more live shows like this,,,maybe then Keevins,Traynor and co would not be so insulting to callers who have a valid point to make??
Hail hail
We have the white Knight (who lives in a Castle) and HMRC are saying ”just write a Cheque Mate”, Then there’s King, who was on the Board, but it’s not as Black and White as it seems. The players appear to have reached a Stalemate with the admins who are acting on behalf of the Queen. The fans, meanwhile, are just Pawns in all of this. Where does the Bishop come in I wonder?
Sorry Paul67…maybe I have the wrong end of the stick but your posts alude to a once-great club called Belfast Celtic….
Do you see Glasgow Rangers going down in similar Protestant folklore?…..And no, this wasn’t a sectarian post. I hate Rangers but have experienced redundancy and see no reason why honest, working people should suffer because of millionaires’ mistakes….
HECTOR – Moonbeams WD. Kano 1000 \o/ Supporting Neil Lennon 100%. Eating Jelly & Ice Cream. Awe Naw… on 7 March, 2012 at 10:45 said:
They’re being very furtive.
I suspect they’re on dodgy ground and know it and have taken legal advice on what to say and what not to say.
There’s no good reason why they can’t get their lawyers to prepare a statement setting out exactly what procedure will be followed and the basis for it.
I think the only way to get to the bottom of the issue is for the Huddleboard’s Tommy to do his stuff. Does anyone know Jock Brown’s mobile number?
Swindbhoy
why not come along to the John Hartson evening at Swindon Town FC on 22nd March and see a real Celtic hero and spokesperson..
ritzsong on 7 March, 2012 at 10:34 said:
Scargill?
Dave King:
“Now that I have evidenced the true position I wish to commend HMRC for showing the maximum restraint that it possibly could have under its mandate to collect taxes that are due.”
Nearly choked on my Earl Grey when I read that.
What? Dave King is now Hector’s Wingman?? THIS Dave King ???
http://mg.co.za/article/2008-05-30-dave-kings-bermuda-triangle
That’s right Dave, you shout from up their on your moral highground about your new BFF the HMRC.
Fabulous! The future is bright
TheOriginalSadiesBhoy on 7 March, 2012 at 10:58 said:
Fritzsong on 7 March, 2012 at 10:34 said:
Scargill?
I was wondering about that one too!!
SPF
Jelly And Gelato on 7 March, 2012 at 11:01 said:
Dave King:
“Now that I have evidenced the true position I wish to commend HMRC for showing the maximum restraint that it possibly could have under its mandate to collect taxes that are due.”
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It’s up there with Jabba’s guff about journalistic integrity and Jingle Jangle’s comment about never believing Craid Why/ite.
Kev Jungle
Take heart. The fact that you can remember your dreams is a good thing. It means that you arent over indulging in alcohol (although how you have managed to avoid that over the last few weeks is truly remarkable.)
When you hear the voice again, simply repeat ten times, “I am not the one who is paranoid here…” and sleep will follow soon.
matt mcglone þ @MattMcGlone9
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BlantyreKev – Parcel=> on 7 March, 2012 at 10:26
I’d imagine there are a few nervous lawyers out there at the moment who were party to contract negotiations with foreign footballers on behalf of R*ngers. Dundas and Wilson from memory…
Is it just me or has the CU article re Tommy from Glasgow provided a link to listen to the call?
I can’t find it anywhere in the piece
Mort @ 10:47 – thanks for putting that link up. Do you know if the A5 & A6 sections are next to the Hoops support or did Kilmarnock take the whole Rangers end?
Cheers
TTTT
Frequent lurker and infrequent poster….
I came on a few months ago and stated that as much as I love Lenny, I didn’t think he was the man to win us a title. Our deficit was in double digits, our signings weren’t working and we were dropping points left right and centre……
I stated my concern and cue the predictable comments about me being a hun and a troll etc.
I said nothing would make me happier than to be proved wrong and for Lenny to win us the title.
Well, here I am, tail between my legs but boy, does it feel good? Humble pie has never tasted so great….
Dave King congratulates HMRC.
Surely this is not the same Dave King whose company Ben Nevis has outstanding tax liabilities of R2.7 billion South African Rand and whose Quoin Rock Wine Estate was taken over by SARS (South African Revenue Service) as payment for some of these outstanding tax issues.
Quoin Rock Wine Estate has since been sold at auction, raising 55m Rand for SARS.
Mort
Even though we didn’t try to sign him, I for one am gutted Greg wylde has snubbed us, I guess he will go to barca or Madrid after all
tommytwiststommyturns
Sorry, don’t know Hampden at all. Only been there once over 10 years ago, funnily enough for last CIS Cup Final v Kilmarnock.
Anyone know the allocations for each team. Seeing as Celtic would have no trouble selling out, why did Kilmarnock get so many tickets?
Mort
Soon they will need to change that big 54 number in their Ibrox stand to a big fat 0
Hail Hail
MWD
Fine well everyone with Celtic leanings Knows that the SFA re going to bend over backwards to allow the newco a place in the SPL.
The SFA and SPL individuals should be aware that we will watch them closely and if they step out of the rule book, we will highlight it and there may be job casualties if they get it wrong. There is never a good time, but the sad loss of the QC could not have come at a worse time. A very good man to have in our corner last season and also in the coming weeks and months ahead.
The e mail chain that you have highlighted demonstrates that ND is shuffling the chairs and creating room for manoeuvre
The recent Phil and Stewart Regan tweets demonstrate that SR does not have the bottle/mettle to take up such a fight either
The media, are already printing nonsense on the subject to try to create an atmosphere of confusion
Fortunately we have some good ghuys on here and other sites who do a fine job to combat them – keep it up and keep the faith
Does this mean they are going to close down before we play them at Ibrokes?
ZKS
“I am absolutely satisfied in my mind that Mike McGill (and hence the Murray Group) had no knowledge that the proof of funds supplied by Craig Whyte’s attorneys was secured by season ticket sales. I am further satisfied that the Murray Group would not have proceeded with the transaction if the true source of the funds had been disclosed.”
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Is King expecting anyone to believe that Murray had no knowledge of what Whyte was up to with Ticketus prior to the sale ? RFC(IA) had previous dealings with Ticketus. Surely if some dodgy character was trying to mortgage £24m worth of season tickets via a club he didn’t own then the lending company would at least contact RFC(IA) to ask a few questions regarding the proposal.
Killie should have been selling their tickets section by section so A5/6 should be next to the Celtic support. There doesn’t appear to be much enthusiasm from Kilmarnock fans for the final so them having some of the South Stand and about half the Rangers end would be about right I reckon.
Mort – if they are selling to anyone, then some tickets could definately fall into the wrong hands….and I don’t mean Hoops fans!
Killie wouldn’t have got more than 17,000 and would definately struggle to sell those.
They shouldn’t be allowed to sell blocks of tickets like that, they should be returned to the league with the option of those tickets then being offered to Celtic fans.
TTTT
While I am overjoyed about the end game approaching I would be cautious that we and other clubs will be awarded their tained trophies as Paul is suggesting. On April 22, 2010 Melbourne Storm were stripped of their 2007 and 2009 NRL Rugby League titles and their 2006, 2007 and 2008 Minor Premierships, due to long-term salary cap breaches. These Premierships were not awarded to any other team!!!!!!!
Dave King praising the tax man? What is going on? Must be only the South African version of Hector he has problems with
Breaking news….
The administrators McCoist and MacGregor have announced that they have reluctantly allowed messrs Dulph and Phelps to leave minty park.Everyone at the club are absolutely devastated at the loss of these two fine servants to our club,they have been a very important part of our football club absolutely since they arrived 4 weeks ago.,we will now concentrate on the football side and try and sign Daniel Cousin again and concentrate fully on our next football game in the cup”
[‘whit dae ye mean alan..were oot of that one anaw?..AwFFS!}
ww.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/dave-king-to-sue-sir-david-murray-for-20m.2012039953
Now the end games begin!
Over to you “Sir” David Murray….
Effin crook shun in anybody’s language.
tommytwiststommyturns on 7 March, 2012 at 11:10 said:
Mort @ 10:47 – thanks for putting that link up. Do you know if the A5 & A6 sections are next to the Hoops support or did Kilmarnock take the whole Rangers end?
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A5 & A6 are in the Rangers end , near the corner that attaches to the main stand. High risk i would say as you will have Killie fans all around you.
As much as the pricing for the final is to be commended, The SFL could have done better by realins the Killie tickets to them in blocks that would have allowed any unsold to be given to Celtic fans without compromising the segregation.
I wouldnt trust that the Killie fans on the day will be all Killie fans. There will likely be some hurting huns.