Getting back to the JL debate, we all have different opinions about players tbh I wasn’t a great fan of Joe when he first signed but he’s won me over, mainly because he doesn’t do a lot wrong and seems to be progressing as a player, I was a big fan of Izzy but he seems to be going backwards. Dunno why.
bring in £25 million from transfer fees spend on complete redevelopment i.e. celtic triangle and improving celtic park.
based on savings made from players wages reduce price of season tickets, matchday tickets, and introduce ticket pricing for unemployed, student and younger adults (16 – 21 year olds).
might sound a little mad but i dont actually think it would affect our overall ability to win league and get into european footballs premier league and itmight justmake celtic accessible to a fans and ensure that those fans are given the same quality of service players are when they work for us!
Glendalystonsils likes a mr whippy with his lime green jelly on
The more pronouncements that are made by these clowns ,the more my blood boils.
A stop must be put to this. The ordinary football fan in Scotland can and must unite to chase them out of office. Then we can start again and the deluded ramblings of the favoured ones like Sally, Green, Smith et al will disappear like a fart in the wind. Unravel the masonic threads of the “fabric” of Scottish society and the MSM will have nothing to propogandise. That is the way forward, NOT turning tail and knocking at the door of some other league some where. Fanciful, perhaps but it’s what I’d like to see.
ElDiegoBhoy on
corkcelt
You’ve been posting here for five minutes. No need to discuss Ard Macha’s posts with those of us who have been here, supportive, for many years.
stephenofderby on
Ard Macha
You have just made me realise that a year has gone past since I started lurking on CQN. Your posts last year were part of the reason that I became hooked on CQN and I must admit to shedding a tear reading the diary entries that you posted.
I thought Celtic played really well first half today and did enough second half to overcome a good St Mirren side. We should never fall into the trap of believing that teams should roll over for us. Professional footballers should be respected and the fact that Celtic won today should be celebrated.
The attitude that we should win every game is a wee bit weearrupeepil mentality and I would prefer us to earn results and enjoy victories but be gracious in defeat when the opposition deserve their credit.
Win lose or draw we wake up every day, still Celtic supporters with a real HISTORY to be proud of.
Hail Hail
Stringer Bell on
The Huns won back a little of what they lost with the FTTT nd Nimmo-Smith verdicts.
That’s their cause for celebration and the aggressive backlash.
Remember though. They lost pretty much everything, to the extent that even the name of their team is up for debate.
They are holding tight to very little.
They are celebrating because the worst didn’t happen. They didn’t get a positive result, just one not as bleak as they feared.
Like many, I hoped they would get horsed even more. As the great man sang;
“just when you think that you’ve lost everything, you find out you can always lose a little more”
I wanted them to go though that. They didn’t.
I am happy with where they are now and what they are now.
I can live with the Nimmo – smith verdict, bogus as the sentence may be because it mean’s that soon I will be able to completely ignore them.
I will soon be able to ignore them.
I will soon be able to ignore them
notthebus on
Valentine’s Day
Can you get your mate to post for you, seems to know what hes talking about
corkcelt on
Sorry ElDiegoBhoy, not sure where you are coming from. Dont know how long I have been posting but its certainly over a year. What exactly did I say to upset you, p.s. I was attempting to be supportive of Ard Macha.
leftclicktic on
Stringer Bell
Your right. Nothing to do with Celtic or football. Everything to do with humanity.
We shouldn’t limit ourselves on here. Nor anywhere else.
History has shown us that there always comes a tipping point
when those living in an unjust society realise that
trying to change things by legitimate means
will never succeed in overthrowing the existing power structures.
67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on
Thank God oldco decided to be ‘flymen’……….hahahahahahaha
Big Pierres 2 front teeth on
Poor show today. Hooper has lost interest since the jan window shut. Forster has been jittery and looks low on confidence. Izzy has been awful. A Few players have been ok… will still show up every week and will renew my book because they’re like a child. .. they wont aways do what you want but they learn and you never stop loving them no matter what
Celtic Mac on
Ard Macha
Feasgar math! Ciamar a tha sibh?
I never supported the hunger strikes, but I did support the hunger strikers and their struggle for political recognition. I know that can seem like a contradiction in terms, but I had and have moral problems with the actions of Bobby and the others. Then again I was never in the Maze. I opposed British Army rule from 1972 onwards, and actively campaigned to get them out, a campaign that we both know failed miserably. Recent events in Iraq, in particular, and today in Afghanistan have shown that the British Army has learned nothing, and forgot nothing. Bobby struggled against torture, brutality and inhumanity, and for human rights, for equality and for freedom. That struggle still goes on. For all my misgivings, (at the time) Bobby is still part of it, and for that reason alone always read the diaries.
I haven’t read it, but am not surprised. Moloney would not be SF’s biggest fan. he worked with Anthony McIintyre on the Belfast Project, who has never concealed his dislike of the SF leadership.
Gerry is everyone’s favourite punchbag, particularly with former comrades who have a few axes to grind. I think he actually enjoys it. When the attacks get personal, it can point to someone not confident about tackling the real issues.
Darkie is and was revered in Belfast, and in my opinion, he was one of those guys who was more comfortable when operating within the IRA as opposed to the political track. He didn’t fair too well when he came out of prison, and I think he was manipulated by others for their own ends.
You do not rise to become President of Sinn Féin without making a few enemies. I don’t think for one minute that he is perfect, but judged on what he has achieved, I think he has done a lot better than others expected.
Just my take on it though.
Árd Macha
!!Bada Bing!! on
3mil wouldn’t buy Lustig’s dog.
ElDiegoBhoy on
Michael
Guess that’s your second of fame in your life. Good on you.
theBHOYfromU.N.C.L.E on
Michael
I admire your restraint ………he is the definitive ‘class clipe’ and teachers pet
Not sure, was trying to give people’s timelines a break :-) I’ll see after the beer though.
Árd Macha
....PFayr on
Caveat …pie eyed from the rugby
Thoughts
Lenny was clever today to get togged out ….
Thomson is a Hun bassa
Ref …see Thomson
And…Huns are guff
Also Andy Walker is an apology for an ex CFC player …soup taker
Auldheid on
ItaliaBhoy
19:34 on
2 March, 2013
Regan’s comments about “moving on” are the final insult.
——————————
@Auldheid Collateral damage? Its not about finding scapegoats, its about putting folk in place whom we trust not to cause damage in 1stplace
@STVSport The idea Campbell Ogilve was unaware how ebts conflict with contracted service is laughable. Did he not think to ask
Ogilve was at SFA since 2002 & ft from 2005. He could have told Bryson to check registration & prevented the mess.
He may not have had details but had to know contractural and ebt principles but did not raise the issue. Why not?
@STVSport He had to know because he worked in football as administrator and was paid by ebt. Football is highly contractural.
@STVSport It is being treated as a fool that bugs me. Inconceivable CO did not know bts had to be non contractural
@STVSport or that footballers and agents would demand written assurances that formed the contract before signing.
@STVSport As soon as I understood what an ebt required to work (“t ” stands for trust) I knew it was not designed for football. Its no rocket science
Move on? carry on covering you mean. Time for full enquiry into SFA’s role in bringing Scottish football to its knees.
ziggydoc1 on
Like the look of Rogic from the little I’ve seen so far. Neil has said he’d like to keep a core. I’d like this to be around guys who would probably like to stay and are good enough:
Ledley, Mathews, Brown, Hooper ( he might stay if the pay is good enough ), Mulgrew, Foster, Forster. Of course I’d like to keep Wanyama, Ambrose, but doubt they’d want to be long term. Still need a dominant centre half and a left back who can defend.
Forrest was the worst player in the SPL according to some recently
Folly Folly on
Evening, everyone.
I’ve managed to calm down a bit since Thursday’s LNS Commission announcement.
I’ve only managed to do so by adopting what might be described as ‘a charitable view’ of how it could be possible for LNS and his handsomely-rewarded legal chums to contrive to find Oldco guilty of gross breaches of player registration rules yet without proffering any sort of sporting/competitive advantage on RFC(IL) …
I actually think it quite possible that our learned friends were simply extracting the urine from the fools at the SPL who were eager to throw (what you and I [though probably not to Philvis] would consider to be) shed loads money at them to spend some of their spare time casting their expert eyes over what, for them, is the game of the plebs.
To me their legal opinion is condescending, lazy and smart-alecy; showing as it does a certain level of legalistic clever-cloggery (in its novel interpretation of player eligibility) and sheer indolence (in its eagerness to take at face value of the key evidence of the SFA’s resident registration guru, Jim Farry’s old mucker and fraternal protégé, Sandy Bryson).
Of course, I could be wrong, and the whole affair might actually have a much more straightforward masonic explanation …
FF
corkcelt on
Ard Macha, It was both a privilige and an ordeal. What these men suffered is almost beyond comprehension. Our tour was organised by the lads from Ardoyne, great Republicans & great Celtic Supporters.
bankiebhoy1 on
The guilty, with undue haste, always want to move on.
Why is that?
The Honest Mistake loves being first on
Auldheid.
Who is getting the ball rolling here?
There are too many of us reeling in shock waiting for the fight back to start. Is any of the supporters groups taking action?
What is the Stars on
Ard Macha
In any walk of life,(and I have seen it in football,politics,the arts) there is always a certain amount of begrudgery directed towards those that make it to the top.This is a fairly normal human emotion
You know the type of thing ” I played football with X at under 13,14 & 15,I was a better player but his Da was very friendly with Man Utd scout bla bla”
I was in acting school with X but he got all the parts because his aunt was married to leading agent etc”
I am sure there is an element of that with Brendan Hughes towards Adams
“we did this and that together but now he has a big house and loads of influence and I have nothing”
But that said I personally think Adams is a very Machivellian character (maybe all politicians are)
You are right about Hughes being more an army man that a politcal man but I would recommend the book
Very interesting and honest look into the early days of the PIRA in Belfast (lower falls especially)
....PFayr on
Ambrose in midfield ….hoe bad must the manager think Kayal is
Margaret McGill on
Auldheid
20:17 on 2 March, 2013
Its in the stuff you couldnt make up category… Ogilvie is STILL there.
Time to kill the Hyena cubs and move on.
West Wales Celt on
Ard:
For what its worth, the diary posts are of great interest to me and make a pleasant change from the ‘Sun editorial’ contributions of the ‘trickle down brigade’ who regularly frequent this blog with no apparent objection from your detractors.
Keep it up,
HH
stevebhoy on
Hey you guys, lay off valentines day. He knows what he is talking about.
Tommy Callaghan was rubbish, obviously. He was signed and played by Jock Stein at the height of Celtic’s greatness, and we all know that Stein knew nothing.
Similarly, Joe Ledley… Scoring goals for fun at the moment, made captain by our manager and really effective in midfield. As an international player, he ought to be.
All these over-paid ‘experts’ should resign now and let oor vd pick the team.
Hail Hail!
jimbo67 on
Evening.
Now watching El Classico. Didn’t realise it was not live so don’t know score. Gerry Armstrong referred to th ‘Copa Del Reys’ won by Casillas.
Should it not be Copas Del Rey’. Not being smert here – genuine question.
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Getting back to the JL debate, we all have different opinions about players tbh I wasn’t a great fan of Joe when he first signed but he’s won me over, mainly because he doesn’t do a lot wrong and seems to be progressing as a player, I was a big fan of Izzy but he seems to be going backwards. Dunno why.
Valentine’s Day
Tunes good idea, music soothes the savage beast…
EmptyhoosesCSC
how about this for next season:
small first team of european and domestic league
foster
mathews, wilson, ambrose, izzy
forrest, kayal, brown, ledley
stokes sammy
keep: charlie, rogic, mcgeogh, trawdzic, watt, lassad
sign: 2 or 3 quality young players and promote other young players from academy for domestic cup competition etc…
Sell or move on: zalusk, free, greshan, return to club, rogne, free, lustig, 3 million
mccourt, free, commons, 1 million, victor, 15 million, miku, return to club, hooper, 6 million, bangura, free
bring in £25 million from transfer fees spend on complete redevelopment i.e. celtic triangle and improving celtic park.
based on savings made from players wages reduce price of season tickets, matchday tickets, and introduce ticket pricing for unemployed, student and younger adults (16 – 21 year olds).
might sound a little mad but i dont actually think it would affect our overall ability to win league and get into european footballs premier league and itmight justmake celtic accessible to a fans and ensure that those fans are given the same quality of service players are when they work for us!
The more pronouncements that are made by these clowns ,the more my blood boils.
A stop must be put to this. The ordinary football fan in Scotland can and must unite to chase them out of office. Then we can start again and the deluded ramblings of the favoured ones like Sally, Green, Smith et al will disappear like a fart in the wind. Unravel the masonic threads of the “fabric” of Scottish society and the MSM will have nothing to propogandise. That is the way forward, NOT turning tail and knocking at the door of some other league some where. Fanciful, perhaps but it’s what I’d like to see.
corkcelt
You’ve been posting here for five minutes. No need to discuss Ard Macha’s posts with those of us who have been here, supportive, for many years.
Ard Macha
You have just made me realise that a year has gone past since I started lurking on CQN. Your posts last year were part of the reason that I became hooked on CQN and I must admit to shedding a tear reading the diary entries that you posted.
I thought Celtic played really well first half today and did enough second half to overcome a good St Mirren side. We should never fall into the trap of believing that teams should roll over for us. Professional footballers should be respected and the fact that Celtic won today should be celebrated.
The attitude that we should win every game is a wee bit weearrupeepil mentality and I would prefer us to earn results and enjoy victories but be gracious in defeat when the opposition deserve their credit.
Win lose or draw we wake up every day, still Celtic supporters with a real HISTORY to be proud of.
Hail Hail
The Huns won back a little of what they lost with the FTTT nd Nimmo-Smith verdicts.
That’s their cause for celebration and the aggressive backlash.
Remember though. They lost pretty much everything, to the extent that even the name of their team is up for debate.
They are holding tight to very little.
They are celebrating because the worst didn’t happen. They didn’t get a positive result, just one not as bleak as they feared.
Like many, I hoped they would get horsed even more. As the great man sang;
“just when you think that you’ve lost everything, you find out you can always lose a little more”
I wanted them to go though that. They didn’t.
I am happy with where they are now and what they are now.
I can live with the Nimmo – smith verdict, bogus as the sentence may be because it mean’s that soon I will be able to completely ignore them.
I will soon be able to ignore them.
I will soon be able to ignore them
Valentine’s Day
Can you get your mate to post for you, seems to know what hes talking about
Sorry ElDiegoBhoy, not sure where you are coming from. Dont know how long I have been posting but its certainly over a year. What exactly did I say to upset you, p.s. I was attempting to be supportive of Ard Macha.
Stringer Bell
Your right. Nothing to do with Celtic or football. Everything to do with humanity.
We shouldn’t limit ourselves on here. Nor anywhere else.
—————
Well said,
Árd Macha Keep posting
Looking forward to seeing these Bhoys in Torino
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duA9wxRfZmw
eldiegobhoy @ 19:50
You are pathetic.
It is no’ your gang hut.
History has shown us that there always comes a tipping point
when those living in an unjust society realise that
trying to change things by legitimate means
will never succeed in overthrowing the existing power structures.
Thank God oldco decided to be ‘flymen’……….hahahahahahaha
Poor show today. Hooper has lost interest since the jan window shut. Forster has been jittery and looks low on confidence. Izzy has been awful. A Few players have been ok… will still show up every week and will renew my book because they’re like a child. .. they wont aways do what you want but they learn and you never stop loving them no matter what
Ard Macha
Feasgar math! Ciamar a tha sibh?
I never supported the hunger strikes, but I did support the hunger strikers and their struggle for political recognition. I know that can seem like a contradiction in terms, but I had and have moral problems with the actions of Bobby and the others. Then again I was never in the Maze. I opposed British Army rule from 1972 onwards, and actively campaigned to get them out, a campaign that we both know failed miserably. Recent events in Iraq, in particular, and today in Afghanistan have shown that the British Army has learned nothing, and forgot nothing. Bobby struggled against torture, brutality and inhumanity, and for human rights, for equality and for freedom. That struggle still goes on. For all my misgivings, (at the time) Bobby is still part of it, and for that reason alone always read the diaries.
Beannachd Dia dhuit
What is the Stars,
I haven’t read it, but am not surprised. Moloney would not be SF’s biggest fan. he worked with Anthony McIintyre on the Belfast Project, who has never concealed his dislike of the SF leadership.
Gerry is everyone’s favourite punchbag, particularly with former comrades who have a few axes to grind. I think he actually enjoys it. When the attacks get personal, it can point to someone not confident about tackling the real issues.
Darkie is and was revered in Belfast, and in my opinion, he was one of those guys who was more comfortable when operating within the IRA as opposed to the political track. He didn’t fair too well when he came out of prison, and I think he was manipulated by others for their own ends.
You do not rise to become President of Sinn Féin without making a few enemies. I don’t think for one minute that he is perfect, but judged on what he has achieved, I think he has done a lot better than others expected.
Just my take on it though.
Árd Macha
3mil wouldn’t buy Lustig’s dog.
Michael
Guess that’s your second of fame in your life. Good on you.
Michael
I admire your restraint ………he is the definitive ‘class clipe’ and teachers pet
corkcelt,
A harrowing tour, the prison hospital is a sad place to visit.
Árd Macha
The Spirit of Arthur Lee,
Not sure, was trying to give people’s timelines a break :-) I’ll see after the beer though.
Árd Macha
Caveat …pie eyed from the rugby
Thoughts
Lenny was clever today to get togged out ….
Thomson is a Hun bassa
Ref …see Thomson
And…Huns are guff
Also Andy Walker is an apology for an ex CFC player …soup taker
ItaliaBhoy
19:34 on
2 March, 2013
Regan’s comments about “moving on” are the final insult.
——————————
@Auldheid Collateral damage? Its not about finding scapegoats, its about putting folk in place whom we trust not to cause damage in 1stplace
@STVSport The idea Campbell Ogilve was unaware how ebts conflict with contracted service is laughable. Did he not think to ask
Ogilve was at SFA since 2002 & ft from 2005. He could have told Bryson to check registration & prevented the mess.
He may not have had details but had to know contractural and ebt principles but did not raise the issue. Why not?
@STVSport He had to know because he worked in football as administrator and was paid by ebt. Football is highly contractural.
@STVSport It is being treated as a fool that bugs me. Inconceivable CO did not know bts had to be non contractural
@STVSport or that footballers and agents would demand written assurances that formed the contract before signing.
@STVSport As soon as I understood what an ebt required to work (“t ” stands for trust) I knew it was not designed for football. Its no rocket science
Move on? carry on covering you mean. Time for full enquiry into SFA’s role in bringing Scottish football to its knees.
Like the look of Rogic from the little I’ve seen so far. Neil has said he’d like to keep a core. I’d like this to be around guys who would probably like to stay and are good enough:
Ledley, Mathews, Brown, Hooper ( he might stay if the pay is good enough ), Mulgrew, Foster, Forster. Of course I’d like to keep Wanyama, Ambrose, but doubt they’d want to be long term. Still need a dominant centre half and a left back who can defend.
Celtic Mac/stephenofderby,
Mile buiochas.
Enjoy your Saturday evening.
Árd Macha.
Forrest was the worst player in the SPL according to some recently
Evening, everyone.
I’ve managed to calm down a bit since Thursday’s LNS Commission announcement.
I’ve only managed to do so by adopting what might be described as ‘a charitable view’ of how it could be possible for LNS and his handsomely-rewarded legal chums to contrive to find Oldco guilty of gross breaches of player registration rules yet without proffering any sort of sporting/competitive advantage on RFC(IL) …
I actually think it quite possible that our learned friends were simply extracting the urine from the fools at the SPL who were eager to throw (what you and I [though probably not to Philvis] would consider to be) shed loads money at them to spend some of their spare time casting their expert eyes over what, for them, is the game of the plebs.
To me their legal opinion is condescending, lazy and smart-alecy; showing as it does a certain level of legalistic clever-cloggery (in its novel interpretation of player eligibility) and sheer indolence (in its eagerness to take at face value of the key evidence of the SFA’s resident registration guru, Jim Farry’s old mucker and fraternal protégé, Sandy Bryson).
Of course, I could be wrong, and the whole affair might actually have a much more straightforward masonic explanation …
FF
Ard Macha, It was both a privilige and an ordeal. What these men suffered is almost beyond comprehension. Our tour was organised by the lads from Ardoyne, great Republicans & great Celtic Supporters.
The guilty, with undue haste, always want to move on.
Why is that?
Auldheid.
Who is getting the ball rolling here?
There are too many of us reeling in shock waiting for the fight back to start. Is any of the supporters groups taking action?
Ard Macha
In any walk of life,(and I have seen it in football,politics,the arts) there is always a certain amount of begrudgery directed towards those that make it to the top.This is a fairly normal human emotion
You know the type of thing ” I played football with X at under 13,14 & 15,I was a better player but his Da was very friendly with Man Utd scout bla bla”
I was in acting school with X but he got all the parts because his aunt was married to leading agent etc”
I am sure there is an element of that with Brendan Hughes towards Adams
“we did this and that together but now he has a big house and loads of influence and I have nothing”
But that said I personally think Adams is a very Machivellian character (maybe all politicians are)
You are right about Hughes being more an army man that a politcal man but I would recommend the book
Very interesting and honest look into the early days of the PIRA in Belfast (lower falls especially)
Ambrose in midfield ….hoe bad must the manager think Kayal is
Auldheid
20:17 on 2 March, 2013
Its in the stuff you couldnt make up category… Ogilvie is STILL there.
Time to kill the Hyena cubs and move on.
Ard:
For what its worth, the diary posts are of great interest to me and make a pleasant change from the ‘Sun editorial’ contributions of the ‘trickle down brigade’ who regularly frequent this blog with no apparent objection from your detractors.
Keep it up,
HH
Hey you guys, lay off valentines day. He knows what he is talking about.
Tommy Callaghan was rubbish, obviously. He was signed and played by Jock Stein at the height of Celtic’s greatness, and we all know that Stein knew nothing.
Similarly, Joe Ledley… Scoring goals for fun at the moment, made captain by our manager and really effective in midfield. As an international player, he ought to be.
All these over-paid ‘experts’ should resign now and let oor vd pick the team.
Hail Hail!
Evening.
Now watching El Classico. Didn’t realise it was not live so don’t know score. Gerry Armstrong referred to th ‘Copa Del Reys’ won by Casillas.
Should it not be Copas Del Rey’. Not being smert here – genuine question.
Jimbo
Bankiebhhoy
Move on move on ..just right
Rancid mendacious cheats