You have been presented with a narrative that we should collapse the Scottish Premier League this summer and have the SFA register a new, two-division, league system to resolve the problems inherent in having too many bodies running our game. This is complete nonsense.
Those pushing for a SPL 2 are, perhaps with good intentions, trying to pull a deal together to reduce the impact of the demise of Rangers FC buy allowing a phoenix the chance to gain entry into the league structure two levels higher than what they now face.
It’s a stupid proposal.
As things stand, there is no chance of a Newco getting access to the SPL next season. Despite Neil Doncaster heavily advocating the notion, the idea is simply undeliverable. Our club has been committed to opposing the proposition from the beginning, while many others now realise they have to observe the strong feelings of their own supporters on the matter.
Doncaster should have realised this was a campaign he could not win before he boxed himself into a corner over it. SPL 2 is an attempt to address the ‘No to Newco’ concerns while bringing the income some in the game hope Newco will deliver.
The unnamed SFA source who briefed the BBC on this topic last week made no reference whatsoever to Newco, their focus was all on the administrative challenges of having multiple bodies in charge of the game, but this was disingenuous. If there was a prospect of Newco getting into the SPL we would not be having this debate.
Tell us the truth, be honest, and these random, ill-considered, notions will perhaps be received in a better light.
The hope is that fans of the former club, Rangers, bring their cash along to watch Newco, which would play SPL 2 football next season and would be subject to whatever penalties the various independent bodies impose for years to come for the illegal actions of Rangers. This would allow Newco to claim the history of Rangers, would perhaps maintain the existing BSkyB TV deal and would meet the ‘No to Newco’ demands.
There are several huge obstacles to overcome. The SFA will soon instruct Lord Carloway’s Appellate Panel to consider a new punishment for ‘Rangers’ for misdeeds during the Craig Whyte era. I expect him to suspend the ‘club’ for 12 months. A new independent judicial panel will consider the case against ‘Rangers’ for subverting our game for over a decade through the illegal registration of players. If/when the First Tier Tribunal finds against Rangers a fresh wave of charges will be brought against any club claiming to hold that identity – as a guide, think of the punishments for the Craig Whyte era multiplied by 12.
These three independent judicial panels will destroy whatever is left of what we used to call ‘Rangers’ and there is nothing the football authorities can do about it.
Sevco, who own Ibrox and have applied for SPL access, already face an enormous challenge to meet trading costs for a year, even in the SPL, never mind a lower league (as Dave King correctly concluded). They are prime candidates for another insolvency event any time soon. Best of all, a Celtic fan has now bid for the assets (more on this later)!
Even if Newco overcame these enormous challenges, the SFA and SPL executives, having realised they cannot convince fans of 11 clubs to hold their noses and put up with a Newco-Rangers, will now try to convince former Rangers fans to cough up cash to support a Newco that will be rendered impotent by the most severe penalties in the history of our game.
I cannot see former Rangers fans accepting their role as cannon fodder for St Mirren, Motherwell and (cough) Kilmarnock in a league where the Mighty Celtic romp home by 30 points.
I don’t have an objection in principle to a two-league SPL but plan it properly, don’t allow knee-jerk reactions to dictate thinking. There’s no point in us getting paranoid about this, it’s not some attempt to help the remnants of ‘Rangers’, it’s just a stupid proposal from people who have yet to see the big picture.
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FA force administration struck Darlington to change their name. Should SPL/SFL impose similar sanction on Huns ?
so come on celtic tell the spl or sfa ,that we are no longer interested in the sky deal.its a con anyway. i will say another thing as all of us pay a tv licence to the bbc ,its time some pressure was put on this mob as well.its pathetic the amount of scottish games are live on the telly ,were is all this licence money going , well you only need to see whats going on ,local news reporters, 2 weather forecasters and not just on once 2 and 3 times a day, no enough is a enough ,time to change .so come on sfa get the finger out tell bbc sport the tv licence players are fed up being conned ,no to sky sports ,back to 3 pm football on a saturday. let it work for us for a change ,we as football fans hold a lot of power ,lets use it
It’s looking more and more likely that The Cloned Rangers will go the way of Dolly the Sheep.
:-)
I think we should calm down with other clubs saying no to newco, SPL will change the rules to suit Huns.
A wee round up of the transfer windows so far:-
Forster – Loan Finished
Cervi – Released
O’Dea – Released
Cha – Out of Contract and signed for Fortuna Düsseldorf
Mark Wilson – Out of Contract
Daniel Majstorović – Out of Contract and signed for AIK
Efraín Juárez – Sold for undisclosed fee to Club America in Mexico
Andre Blackman – Out of Contract
Glenn Loovens – Out of Contract
Niall McGinn – Released
Richie Towell – Released
Pawel Brozek – Loan Finished
Hopefully see a bit of movement in sooner rather than later…
I am looking for a 30 goals a season striker, who was the last player to achieve 30 goals ?
JellyNiceCreamCsc
Sheik Yerbouti on 21 June, 2012 at 15:25 said:
it makes no sense for
aberdeen
hearts
hibernian
dundee utd
even motherwell
to vote em back in
theyve got a chance to win the league
12pts lost instead of 24pts
if new club was in there
traditionalist88 on 21 June, 2012 at 15:28 said:
Sheik Yerbouti
Only problem is the clubs who think newco will be rubbish and think they can take the points and their pennies in one fell swoop.
fair point m8
tho they would be daft to think so
HH
http://local.stv.tv/glasgow/107386-rangers-crisis-ibrox-season-ticket-renewal-money-held-by-oldco/
So where is Sevco’s income?
Ibrox season ticket renewal money is being paid into and held by the soon-to-be-liquidated ‘oldco’ Rangers.
The Sevco group that formed a new business entity to purchase the club’s assets confirmed it is using Rangers FC plc, incorporated in 1899, to receive any season ticket renewal cash paid over.
Rangers claim the money is being held by the old company, which is still under the control of administrators Duff and Phelps, and will be later transferred to new business entity, Sevco 5088 Limited, as part of the deal reached with the consortium led by Charles Green.
miki67
Thanks for that.
One of the problems with discussing the strike is that there is a tendency sometimes to veer towards a simplistic approach, often drawing the main players in terms of good/evil. I am trying to see the aftermath of the strike in human terms and without demonising any one individual.
And I realise i am almost certainly failing.
miki67 on 21 June, 2012 at 15:57 said:
It’s looking more and more likely that The Cloned Rangers will go the way of Dolly the Sheep.
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You mean stuffed and in a museum :)
Half Time Tombola on 21 June, 2012 at 15:32 said:
They will if they finnish in the bottom 6 :)-[]::::::|
I thought oldco ticket money for next season was owned by Ticketus?
Glendalystonsils likes a mr whippy with his lime green jelly on 21 June, 2012 at 16:00 said:
miki67 on 21 June, 2012 at 15:57 said:
It’s looking more and more likely that The Cloned Rangers will go the way of Dolly the Sheep.
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You mean stuffed and in a museum :)
>>>>
Started out nice and fluffy,then the reality of how little anyone truly understands genetics,and it ended up looking like something Damien Hirst would produce.
:-)
Ryan\o/D, Is Blackman out of contract? Wouldn’t be interested in hanging onto him as a full back tbh, if Lennon thinks he could be a good wide midfielder then thats the onyl circumstances under which I’d re-sign him.
Sheik Yerbouti, exactly- but theres a few daft chairmen out there!(some would say Vlad is one, but he has morals at least!!)
HH
Padlock on the ibrox gate and then wait 3 months for the hysteria to die down. Then one night put the ‘For Development’ bill board up.
Nice plan by Green…
An open letter from ICTFC chairman, Kenny Cameron: http://t.co/fVDSqWTx
Dolly was a very good looking sheep.
There’s a fine line between madness and genius. Vlad has just moved into the genius category.
hen1rik on 21 June, 2012 at 16:07 said:
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Almost hard to believe, but there it is in red,white and blue.
Green soon to follow follow…..back to the dales.
:-)
If the SFA/SPL could even spell the word Integrity, they would have, by now, devised a financial support package to offset any real loss of income, due to the Hunectomy.
Clubs relegated from the EPL receive a parachute payment to cushion the blow.
Instead, by their blatant efforts to protect the evil, they have further betrayed their purpose.
It is heartening though, to see other clubs recognising the views of their supporters and if that secures the No vote, then there is a future for Scottish football.
Should the supporters wishes prevail in a positive way, then they have created another forum for the game, which should then pressure the SFA into a complete reform.
Peter Lawwell and John Reid, with Paul Mc.Bride began the process.
Let other clubs join in.
hen1rik on 21 June, 2012 at 16:07 said:
covers all basis with that statement, may vote for may vote against
Headtheball on 21 June, 2012 at 16:07 said:
Dolly was a very good looking sheep.
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not for long
Blackman only contracted until 30/06/2012. I think Celtic have an option to extend it.
Reading between the lines, ICT say NO too
http://ictfc.com/news/club-news/523-open-letter-from-ictfc-chairman-kenny-cameron
I wondered why no club was saying how they would vote on the 4th. Coming out as a “No” voter would probably speed up their season book sales. I can’t see that they have to appear impartial until they’ve heard the evidence like jurors. It’s not a trial .
Anyone aware if Celtic have a scouting presence at the Euro championships and if not why not
‘It is fair to say that those who say that Rangers have been punished sufficiently are in an extremely small minority of all the representations received.’
ICT say NO!
Newco Fc have been invited into division 3 by SFL sponsors irn bru.. They want them to join a long line of fannies
mickbhoy1888
Because none of them could lace the boots of Mulgrew, Wanyama, Ledley, Izzy, Broonie, etc etc…
mickybhoy1888
I hear that Frank McAvennie is there eying up “the burdz” – does that count :))
traditionalist88
ASonOfDan is correct, Official Website states ‘Neil Lennon offered the young left-back a contract until the end of the campaign after he impressed during a trial period in November’ No further mention of extension.
HH
Dolly the sheep, like Oldco’s creditors have been well and truly “fleeced”.
!!Bada Bing!!
lol!
A Son of Dan – £100 Mil? did you do original valuation? :> Murray Park has development restrictions,no?
!!Bada Bing!!
Book value, I did not write the book… :0)
Ryan\o/D
ASonOfDan
Cheers lads
HH
I just cant see how Iborx and the car park are any viable development opportunity.
Vast tracks of wasteland all around it from the demolished blocks allready.
Unless they do a Highbury and convert the Listed Toilet block to residential units.
Was The Kings season of 2003/04 the last time we had a player score 30 league goals in a season ?