The costs of dropping Giakoumakis for Kyogo

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All going well, in the weeks ahead, Ange Postecoglou will consider replacing his current Most Valuable Player – Giorgos Giakoumakis – with his MVP from the first half of the season, Kyogo Furuhashi.

It is easy to forget how early we are in the formation of this Celtic team.  Daizan Maeda and Reo Hatate are only here two months, Matt O’Riley less than that.  None have teamed up with Kyogo, they have spent little time with playing with Yosuke Ideguchi, James Forrest or David Turnbull.

That bizarrely easy win in February over Newco implied the new model had a maturity that was not there yet.  A month of indifferent performances followed, with a harsh truth delivered by Bodo/Glimt.  On good surfaces and against Premiership opposition, the system is again looking fabulous.

A big part of this system is what Giakoumakis gives us in the air – two headed goals and one headed assist on Saturday.  Without him, we have the appearance of a front line that could not jump and touch the crossbar.  We would also lose an additional strong defender at set-pieces.

The temptation to make Kyogo the new focus could be overwhelming, he was that impressive.  He brings things to Celtic we have not seen in years.  Question is, what will the costs be of dropping Giorgos, or rejigging the entire setup to fit both in?

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  1. TOM MCLAUGHLIN @ 1:54

     

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    Tom, I find it amazing that because some of us oppose the SNP, we are labelled”flag-waving”Rangers-daft Orangemen” – nothing could be further from the truth.

     

     

    There are many many members of the Celtic family who find the SNP unpalatable. Some of us have memories of the days when they were proud to be called ‘Tartan Tories’, and behaved/cooperated in such a manner. A leopard, even a Scottish one, doesn’t change its spots – it expediently camouflages them for political gain.

     

     

    I have opposed and campaigned against the SNP and the Tories almost all of my adult life. I’ve seen the Labour Party win all the major battles for the working class, even though its time in power has been fleeting. The fruits of those battles has meant a better standard of living for ordinary people in Scotland; indeed many of the SNP’s new found fans could not live as they do without the hard-won benefits delivered by the Labour Party – e.g. Tax Credits. Just one of the many achievements of a Labour government. I could list lots of others on both sides of two sheets of A4 paper. The SNP would need only the back of a postage-stamp.

     

     

    The Nationalists have neither promised, nor, delivered, anything of substance to the people of Scotland during their eighty plus years in existence, or c20 in power. In fact ‘when the chips were down’ and a referendum called, they produced a pack of lies and ‘pie in the sky’ projections in the now discredited “thick” White Paper. Had the majority ‘swallowed’ this and independence ensued, then in light of the Oil price collapse and Covid, we would most probably be de-facto bankrupt & under the auspices of the IMF right at this moment. Being in the UK, and due to the Barnett formula, we have had a sum equivalent to a quarter of the whole GDP of Scotland pumped in over the last two years. Hundreds of thousands of Scottish jobs, maybe over a million, have been protected and thousands of Scottish businesses saved from extinction.

     

     

    I accept that there are those among ‘us’ who vote SNP, why then can’t they accept that many of us don’t? Why are our Celtic-supporting credentials always thrown in our faces?

     

     

    The reason might be that there is no relevant economic case for independence, if there was the SNPcult would be shouting it from the rooftops and plastering it on every billboard it could lay its hands on, and therefore insults are the only defence.

     

     

    The sad thing is, and I have spoken to many Celtic fans about this, even members of my own extended family -“one of the main driving forces in the flocking of our people to the SNP is basically an anti-Ibrox agenda. There is never a coherent argument for independence offered-up….never! The sad thing is that if the Ibrox followers suddenly ‘converted’ to the idea of a separate Scotland where they would undoubtedly have the upper-hand, our people would desert the SNP overnight.

     

     

    This is an existential issue for Scotland in general, and ‘our people’ in particular – therefore I will always argue my case – of course I will allow others to argue theirs, without recourse to any form of personal insults

  2. BIG WAVY on 22ND MARCH 2022 1:57 PM

     

    The idea that our team takes on a completely different life form depending on the choice between GG v Kyogo is a simplistic piece of nonsense.

     

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    I haven’t seen that “nonsense” suggested anywhere – but of course a team with a big front-man who is scoring goals, a goodly proportion with his head, will naturally attack in a different manner to a team with a nippy small striker who’s strength lies in perpetual movement. Not a “completely different life form”, merely a variation on tactics – that surely is a strength.

  3. Its good to know that due to the hard work of JHB that we Scots have been given charitable status by the UK and going forward no matter how bad the economy gets the UK will charitably keep us all employed. WooHoo jobs for life!!!

  4. JHB on 22nd March 2022 3:35 pm

     

     

    Bizarre comment, you are a very strange mixed up individual.

  5. Giakoumakis or Kyogo? Different horses for different courses. As Giakou will have been away on international duty, I would say this is an ideal opportunity for Kyogo to start in the next match. Giakou´s second hat trick, with penalty included, lays to rest all his ghosts at Parkhead and he can go on to be a big player for Celtic and hopefully his country as well.

     

     

    Not Celtic related, but with some posters quoting names from scottish political history, here´s a name which nobody should forget because he supported both Scottish and Irish independence, a schoolteacher from Pollokshaws called John McLean ( 1879 – 1923 ). His daughter Nan Milton wrote a great biography about his life.

     

     

    Another Glasgow schoolteacher, Matt McGinn from the Calton, wrote and sang this song about him. “Dominie” is a scottish word for schoolteacher.

     

     

     

     

    Dominie, Dominie

     

    There was nane like John Maclean,

     

    The fighting Dominie

     

     

    Tell me where ye’re gaun, lad, and who ye’re gaun to meet–

     

    I’m headed for the station that’s in Buchanan Street,

     

    I’ll join 200,000 that’s there to meet the train

     

    That’s bringing back to Glasgow our own dear John Maclean

     

     

    Tell me whaur he’s been, lad, and why has he been there?

     

    They’ve had him in the prison for preaching in the Square,

     

    For Johnny held a finger at all the ills he saw,

     

    He was right side o’ the people, but he was wrong side o’ the law:

     

     

    Johnny was a teacher in one o’ Glasgow’s schools

     

    The golden law was silence but Johnny broke the rules,

     

    For a world of social justice young Johnny couldnae wait,

     

    He took his chalk and easel to the men at the shipyard gate.

     

     

    The leaders o’ the nation made money hand o’er fist

     

    By grinding down the people by the fiddle and the twist,

     

    Aided and abetted by the preacher and the Press —

     

    John called for revolution and he called for nothing less:

     

     

    The bosses and the judges united as one man

     

    For Johnny was a danger to their ’14-’18 plan,

     

    They wanted men for slaughter in the fields of Armentiers,

     

    John called upon the people to smash the profiteers:

     

     

    They brought him to the courtroom in Edinburgh toun,

     

    But still he didnae cower, he firmly held his ground,

     

    And stoutly he defended his every word and deed,

     

    Five years it was his sentence in the jail at Peterheid:

     

     

    Seven months he lingered in prison misery

     

    Till the people rose in fury, in Glasgow and Dundee,

     

    Lloyd George and all his cronies were shaken to the core,

     

    The prison gates were opened, and John was free once more.

  6. PRESTONPANS BHOYS on 22ND MARCH 2022 3:05 PM

     

     

     

    I wonder if Bernard Higgins is still looking for a gig?

  7. glendalystonsils on

    I think it would be interesting to see how Sevco’s defence would cope with Maeda and Kyogo buzzing about them . It would be like trying to play keepie uppy with a wasps nest or being attacked by evil duracell bunnies !

  8. LAMBERT14 on 22ND MARCH 2022 2:50 PM

     

    ERNIE LYNCH on 22ND MARCH 2022 2:29 PM

     

     

     

     

     

    ‘So you dig up people from a bygone age’

     

     

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    I’ve won goldfish at the shows with a longer memory span than you guys.

  9. prestonpans bhoys on

    Actually the hun board employing Bernard Higgins would be an excellent ‘get it right up you’ to their deranged fans😂😂

  10. I am not a fan of the SNP, especially since MacKaskill’s support for the deid team’s songbook (and I know he has left them but none of them has ever challenged him about it). I am, however, for Independence, especially since England voted for Brexit. If we do achieve Independence, we may well have to accept that our standard of living goes down. Are we prepared to pay the price?

  11. The opening line of The Rangers statement is quite informative as regards their finances.

  12. PARKHEADCUMSALFORD on 22ND MARCH 2022 3:57 PM

     

     

    When Sturgeon joined the SNP official party policy was to leave the EU.

     

     

    Just sayin’.

  13. The 4 4 game at Ibrox played on this date in 1986.

     

     

    My pal and I were in the Celtic part of the main stand at this game.

     

     

    At the time the DUP were going big on their Ulster says no campaign to the Anglo-Irish agreement.

     

     

    A banner was put up at the far left of of the main stand at the above game saying Ulster says no but the man from Del Monte says yes. The stickies who could see it were going daft .

  14. Ernie Lynch,

     

     

    The Labour Party has regularly been pro-brexit. Imo, an independent Scotland needs to seek EU membership as a matter of urgency. I would like to think the EU would be open to us rejoining, especially in the current climate.

  15. ‘THE SNP is being urged to sack a council candidate who drove from Dundee to Edinburgh to call the Pope a c***.

     

     

    Dr Siobhan Tolland – who is a member of the party’s ruling national executive committee – has also previously described the 9/11 terror attacks an “inside job”.

     

     

    Labour said the SNP needed to “urgently reconsider whether this individual is a fit candidate for public office.”

     

     

    In a 2010 post on her social media – uncovered by The Courier – Dr Tolland said that she travelled to Edinburgh to see Pope Benedict XVI and revealed she “might have gone a wee bit too far when she called him a c***”.

     

     

     

    She posted: “Siobhan thinks everyone should protest against the Pope for his cover up of sex abuse crimes and is going to the demo on Lothian road (outside Usher Hall) on Thursday.”

     

     

    Five days later she then wrote her throat was “sair wi shouting at the Pope”.

     

     

    Dr Tolland told followers that she “got a chance to tell him he should be arrested for child abuse.”

     

     

    The candidate for the Lochee ward – who, according to her Twitter biography, has a PhD in history political propaganda – also told Facebook friends that the CIA and the FBI were behind the 2001 attacks on the Twin Towers in the US which killed 2,977 people.

     

     

    She said: “I think I have overdone the 9/11 govt complicity documentaries over this weekend. False flag, inside job, peal oil I know I know I get it. Yet I canna stop watching them. Help me.”

     

     

    On July 4, she wrote: “The CIA (with help from the FBI) did it.”

     

     

    Then later in the month, she posted: “9/11 was in inside job.”

     

     

    In a post on the ninth anniversary of the attack, Dr Tolland said: “On the anniversary of September 11, we should all vow to honour the victims by trying to get justice and bring the real perpetrators to account.”

     

     

    Later in the month, she said she knew her “9/11 obsession is getting bad” after “shouting at a random bloke about 9/11 being an inside job” during a dream.

     

     

    Michael Marra, who represents the Lochee ward on Dundee City Council and is now a North East Labour MSP, said: “The SNP nationally and locally must urgently reconsider whether this individual is a fit candidate for public office.”

     

     

    https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/20010909.snp-candidate-fire-claims-9-11-inside-job/

     

     

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    Well I suppose it makes a change from Wullie Graham’s ant-Semitism or Dr Rideout’s racism. Truly a party of all the talents.

  16. PARKHEADCUMSALFORD on 22ND MARCH 2022 4:14 PM

     

     

     

    ‘The Labour Party has regularly been pro-brexit.’

     

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    That’s simply not true. It’s never been Labour Party policy to leave the EU.

     

     

    As for a separate Scotland joining the EU, that would involve handing control of Scotland’s public finances to the EU. So much for independence.

     

     

    And EU membership would require a hard border at Gretna. That’ll do wonders for Scotland’s economy.

  17. JHB on 22nd March 2022 3:35 pm

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Bizarre comment, you are a very strange mixed up individual.JHB on 22nd March 2022 3:35 pm

     

     

    Bizarre comment, you are a very strange mixed up individual.

     

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    Think about it vertically! Surely someone telling the world that their nostrils are filled with the scent of excrement is the definition of bizarre?

  18. In advance of the huns game I do hoe some has a word with Joe Hart about his gallusness in passing the ball across an empty goal mouth.

     

     

    Makes Ronnie Simpson look neurotic by comparison.

     

     

    No need for it and could prove costly, especially if the hus have made note of it, which they will have.

  19. John Lennon does not have exclusive rights on the idea so ….imagine we beat the Huns at Ibrox on the 3rd. Six points ahead. Imagine we then beat St Johnstone at Home on the 9th. Nine points ahead. If those two things happen, not TOO difficult to imagine the Huns dropping points at Love Street on the 10th.

     

     

    We could, of course , lose to Sevco, drop points against St Johnstone and der Hun then beat St Mirren but let`s not dwell on that for the moment !

  20. ERNIE LYNCH on 22ND MARCH 2022 4:34 PM

     

     

    I feel the players are comfortable with the passing at the back tactic. The support, on the other hand, are a bag of nerves !

  21. CYPBHOY on 22ND MARCH 2022 4:37 PM

     

    This site is getting worse

     

     

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    what it really needs is a lot more people posting about how bad it is.

     

     

    Do you know anyone who could help out?

  22. “CYPBHOY on 22ND MARCH 2022 4:37 PM

     

    This site is getting worse”

     

     

    I do wish you had not posted that immediately after one of my posts !!

  23. You are on form today,ernie ! Has this fine weather brought out the best in you?

     

    Sunny disposition and all that.

  24. HOT SMOKED on 22ND MARCH 2022 4:38 PM

     

     

     

    It’s the passing across the open goal mouth that gives me the fear.

  25. HS

     

    Nothing to do with your post very informed, it’s the rest of the huns that are trolling with there own agendas

     

    I’m a Nat and Jacobite indy can’t come quick enough for me can’t wait. HH

  26. “ERNIE LYNCH on 22ND MARCH 2022 4:41 PM

     

    HOT SMOKED on 22ND MARCH 2022 4:38 PM

     

    It’s the passing across the open goal mouth that gives me the fear.”

     

     

    Yes, I thought that was what you meant and I think that scares the support even more but I feel the players are reasonably comfortable with that aspect of nge`s style.

     

     

    Incidentally ( and perhaps rather strangely) I just realised who you remind me of in the manner of your posts: The Inspector in J.B.Priestley`s ` An Inspector Calls.`

     

    Make of that what you will :-))

  27. LET ME TRY AGAIN !

     

     

    i didn`t REALLY think that but thanks for the confirmation anyway.

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