Hibernian chairman, Rob Petrie, yesterday told BBC Radio Scotland “Integrity is beyond purchase”. It’s incredible to think that we live in times where this is actually news.
It’s hard to imagine how anyone would go about arguing with Rod on this matter. Kilmarnock chairman, Michael Johnston’s recent comment, “The [SPL] clubs are mindful of a sporting integrity aspect but the commercial benefits may outweigh that” offers the alternative view, but the logical conclusion of Petrie’s argument is stark. If integrity of top clubs can be purchased, what about officials, referees and players with bookmaker friends?
We can assume Hibernian will join Celtic in voting against admitting a Newco directly into the SPL, should such a vote occur. Five clubs in total are required to block such a proposal. With Petrie declared against, would Romanov at Hearts vote for Newco? His previous public pronouncements suggest he would relish the opportunity to take on one of the big Glasgow clubs.
Dundee United and Aberdeen are two other clubs under significant supporter pressure. Both teams are also keen to change the 11-1 voting rule, which would be possible without a Newco.
Rangers, Kilmarnock, St Johnstone (through manager Steve Lomas) have all declared in favour of admitting a Newco, I expect Motherwell and St Mirren will do the same. Ross County and Inverness may fancy adding Dundee into next season’s relegation fight instead of Newco but there has been no indication how either club would vote.
The 7th May vote was the best chance of getting Newco provisions voted through. The more time clubs have to consider the decision the more susceptible they will be to supporter lobby.
I am of the view that SPL chief, Neil Doncaster, will not allow himself to become aware if Rangers have a prima facie case to answer as a result of the SPL inquiry into contractual arrangements until after a vote is taken. Deadline for clubs to respond to the inquiry passed over five weeks ago. A simple check of submissions against SPL records is all that is required. Even if each clubs issued an all-clear, the inquiry should have reported.
Doncaster perhaps has no idea of the flood that will come his way soon and wash away all of these questions. His opportunity to act before events overtake him is limited.
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I just hope the SFA / SPL / Club Chairmen / Sports media appreciate the impact of showing favouritism by putting money before integrity ….. They surely realise that all fans of all clubs are fanatical about their club and EXPECT a level playing field / sporting integrity …….they haven’t had it for 20 years (at least), and if there is any ‘ nonsense’ with the hard decisions which have to be taken against the proven cheats, the backlash will DESTROY Scottish Football……..
PEOPLE WILL NOT PAY HARD EARNED MONEY TO SUPPORT FOOTBALL IN A TAINTED LEAGUE ……. SURELY THEY ALL REALISE THAT THE ‘GAME’ NEEDS TO BE SEEN TO BE HONEST ………. Even some bhuns are admitting that they need to take their punishment, and start again
Bada Bing
When Legia negotiated that transfer few months ago, sell clause in Toto Tamuz contract was one million euros (maybe something plus). I suspect the wages he accepted were in range of 500 000 euros per year. We did not have spare 1 million euros for that tranfer at that time. I think he is still on Legia and few other clubs radar. He is from Israel, wants to Europe, speaks English.
Did you watch videos with Toto Tamuz?
so safe and sound in Englishire.
i can report back that allthough the huns are deid, the little englander is alive and voicing its all the Polish Immigrants fault, and Greece, and Chelski will do the Germans. Except the little englanders were a Scot and a Norn Irish bonzo..
they did try to partake in some “banter” when i went to the bar.
whats the badge mean mate
“its a Celtic thing I said, I got a badge for paying my taxes”.
to be fair, the english laughed.
Catman, I cant get on email just now , but myname @ lenovo.com and can ping you tomorrow.
I am Hook tomorrow.
Mighty Tim
How many beatings did you get at Augustines?
Toneloc,
My dad was very fiercely an old St Pats boy and was attending Alumni gathering right up until he died. The name is familiar to me and I am sure my dad would have known her. There hasn’t been any old St Pats teacher mentioned on here tonight that I didnt know the name of. My dad before he retired was especially friends with Doig, McMaster and Lyons.
Bashi
petec- Link to the superb Bert Kassies page.
http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/seedcl2012.html
Much depends on how 2nd round qualifiers go but we will definitely be seeded in 3rd round (and 4th round if we get there).
BK assumes here higher seeded teams will qualify in each round so pretty much a worst case scenario.
Could be a few tasty unseeded teams in the 4th round.
Toneloc I was well gone by then mate. I was there 71-75, always had good players though in St Augustines. McAvennie was in my year, Frank McDougal ( cousin) couple years before me Tony Higgins to name a few.
HH
THE EXILED TIM
Having Vic and Mariga, brothers coming from different parents, together to play for Celtic for more than money would be really special.
When Vic the Brick took the 67 number plate, that said to me this Man knows all about Celtic.
How many Mustard seeds have Celtic and more especially, it’s fans, sown over the last few years alone?
There is a lot of amazing times ahead for the Celtic family as long as the World stays stable.
setting free the bears on 15 May, 2012 at 21:26
:))))
mighty tim on 15 May, 2012 at 21:19 said:
I hate to crash the old St.Pats jamboree Bhoys, but you want to talk schools the St Augustine in the Milton takes a bit of beating.
HH
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Now your talking. Many great people passed through that esteemed centre of learning.
Z-I watched his goals montage on YouTube,looks strong and quick.
Still haven’t figured out how everybody at the game got inside The Celtic Superstore
sheltering from the rain as soon as the celebrations finished.
goldstar10,
Thank You very much for the link.
Bashi
well next time you see him ( pat ) say I was asking for him- I think of him quite often. Kmow he is up in Dunfermiline somehwere I think.
Of course, he won’t know the name BRTH, but if you say the eedjit with the sauncy walk you used to go to school with he will get it soon enough!
Any more hints required just say I went out with the daughter of the ex headmaster of St Andrew’s Clydebank- he will know who that was too.
Just caught the last 15 minutes or so of a “Best all time British football XI” programme on radio 5live.
Two Scottish players in team.
Daniel Fergus and Kenneth Mathieson.
Managed by Jock Stein.
Not a Hun in sight.
Oh aye, and Karl Muggleton as well.
Algarvian
I think they are from Russia, or thereabouts, he earns 20 million euros tax free per year, crap money mind you :>)
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indio
Wasn’t having a go, the reporter must work for the scottish media that wrote that.
16k a week these days is nothing.
Toure would be on about 225k a week I believe, all the African players at say Chelsea would be on what 50-80k a week.
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kickin
Wee cragie didn’t have a warchest, all made up rubbish.
Now Charlie Green, he does have a real warchest :>)))))
Thom the tim
wasn’t Glen Gibbons a St Augustine’s bhoy?
thomthethim CQN (genuine) Badge Wearer on 15 May, 2012 at 21:36 said:
mighty tim on 15 May, 2012 at 21:19 said:
I hate to crash the old St.Pats jamboree Bhoys, but you want to talk schools the St Augustine in the Milton takes a bit of beating.
HH
share on F’book or Twitter
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Now your talking. Many great people passed through that esteemed centre of learning.
my Da went through Mungo’s but my 2 Uncles did St aug’s we ended up in Card cause my ma was from Pollock and met my Da teaching in St Leonard’s easterhoose. If any on here know Bob McKay esp from Holyrood or St Ninians Kirkie, then that’s my Da!
Anyone watching ESPN .?….trying to get the game resumed after pitch invasion
Nice to see so many ex St Augustine’s boys (of which i was one as well, leaving 1985). There are others who are regular contributors here as well.
Small world, indeed, as i played golf with an old Maths teacher the other day (Paul Seeger, he left around 1979)
“On Wednesday the appeal will be heard. The gravity of what is at stake for Rangers is clear for all to see. Be in no doubt this appeal is able to increase punishments handed down to the club as well as reduce them.” (Alex Thomson)
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Let’s see what tommorow will bring. Integrity or a lack thereof.
Mayhem at the Dussseldorf V Hertha game in Germany. Game stopped with 90secs to go. Hertha refusing to come back on to finish the game. They need a goal for a draw that wd keep them up.
miki67 on 15 May, 2012 at 21:46 said
Exactly……we will learn a lot tomorrow….
petec
Aye, as long as the world stays stable, nail on the head mi amigo.
The Middle East is a powder keg at the moment, all vying for control of the oil, beware the yellow peril, they have been making steady inroads into Africa for long enough, they will have a major say in the outcome.
You never know, the world might yet get split into 3 powers, all taking it in turns to fight themselfs, all the while going to war with the other lot, now where have I read that before !!!
petec- no problem, bud.
HH
Saint Stivs on 15 May, 2012 at 21:32 said:
You in sunny Hook tomorrow…I just about sold up there (hopefully this weekend)
You staying in the Elvetham or Tynley Hall?
Pubs I Suggest the Older White Hart ex coach house – rather than the Oi Agadoo version about 100 yes away. The Raven station hotel is famous as the place Enid Blyton wrote some of her kiddie books …and …Edward and Mrs Simpson had a tryst there
3 pubs in the town 2 called the White Hart one The Raven
Whit a town
I will be sad to leave
HH
M
gscbhoy
Did that Paul Seeger start his own primary education at St. Dominic’s in Castlemilk?
Just an unusual name to be hearing after all these years.
Emdae find out why big Dan wasnt there on Sunday??
BRTH,
Will do.
HH
Bashi
Ps keep posting! Always a excellent read.
setting free the bears on 15 May, 2012 at 21:51 said:
I’m not sure, but i know he ended up at Holyrood and recently retired from there. As you say, not the most common of names!
I missed out the word pretending, just before going to war….
Ps you can see fro my grammar that a St Als education wasnt wasted on me!
Bashi
How Green Was My Ally
SFTB ….. I went to St Dominic’s, and then to St Margaret Mary’s Secondary …… Happiest days of my life……honestly…!!!
BRTH,
Gibbons was in my year at St. Augustines.
Bright lad, very lippy.
He never played for the school team, though.
Incidentally, our U 14 team was the first team from the school to reach a final.
Unfortunately, we got beat by a very good Clydebank High team at Firhill in 1958.
It still hurts.
gscbhoy
He’d have to be in his mid 50s to be the same lad I remember.
goldstar10,
That is a tough selection of teams to play in the last qualifier.
Hopefully, we don’t get drawn to play any of these 4 that are pre determined.
Udinese, Lille, Malaga and Borussia Mönchengladbach.
If we had to play one of these 4, I’d prefer to play Udinese last, they will not underestimate us, Malaga would be next then Lille (difficult team to play against in Europe over the last few seasons) and finally the weakest BM, who are German and that says it all.
Aye, it is best getting the luck of the Irish in the draw. And if we don’t, I will still be confident of making it into the CL proper, unlike the game against Arsenal where it was more hope than expectation.
Our Bhoys are growing up and there is nothing to fear, except fear itself.
Incidentally, there isn’t a problem here….the bhuns don’t like green