You want some good news? Around £1m of Tottenham’s money for Victor Wanyama will find its way to Celtic, which will offset some of the economic impact of this morning’s news. This aside, there is only bad news. If we want to buy footballers priced in euros (or anything other than GPB) they will cost more money. We will also have to pay higher wages to be competitive with European clubs.
Goods will cost more – it will start today with fuel and travel, then food, electrical goods and everything else. Wages will buy less (not just less-able footballers). Borrowing repayments will be higher. Business expenditure, wages and employment will drop, so will the tax take – and money available for welfare spend. The poor always pay the highest penalty.
If you are rich enough and without a mortgage you can indulge in flag waving all day, happy in a delusion that self-determination even remotely exists in modern economies. Or that more self-determination over here, and a little less over there, is a panacea. It’s not, it’s just another economic crisis coming your way soon.
The entire political class have failed us. Calling a flag waving referendum was a grubby attempt to hold onto power by the prime minister; this mess is his making. Whoever succeeds him will have to successfully pander to the same party membership in order to get elected.
Jeremy Corbyn’s mealie-mouthed campaigning was an embarrassment. His “7 out of 10” backing for remain did what it was supposed to do: convince people he was going through the motions for something he didn’t believe in.
Who’s ever heard of a leader winning support for an issue he is prepared to back 7 out of 10 himself? He should go, but political ego will ensure he’ll hang around to make sure Johnson wins the next general election.
It took six days for the Greek government to abandon their own disastrous EU referendum mandate. Instead of attempting a rescue, all our political ‘leaders’ will give us is more populist power grabs. It’s already underway.
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Ernie Lynche…
Really! Think you use polls/poles to suit your own agenda.
No offence intended Zybesk
Think i’ll pack it in and buy a pick-up..
https://youtu.be/wyruylD0BWQ
Anyway-Brexit,Srexit, we will beat Switzerland tomorrow .Then we will beat Croatia on penalties and will meet Germany in the final.
ZBYSZEK on 24TH JUNE 2016 9:06 PM
ZYBSZEK,
Channel 4 have most likely rolled out a Polish Politician who has had a long time dislike of Britian deep in the knowledge that he would say something controversial off air hence the reason they they kept the microphone on.
It’s how the Propaganda spin merchants work.
IMHO the UK’s exit vote heralds the end of the EU. Right wing parties across Europe, mainly Sweden, The Netherlands and France, will demand referendums on their countries remaining in the EU and are likely to win. Perhaps the concept has ran it course and Europe needs to plot another course.
In the meantime come on Celtic sign someone to give us something else to talk about.
Thanks for the advice and information gentlemen. Travelled to Turkey at beginning of week on hols,but Edinburgh airport lost my baggage. Total nightmare, the lack of help from the baggage company has been staggering to say the least.
MULLET AND CO 2 on 24TH JUNE 2016 9:13 PM
Changing the subject. But has anyone else had the snip?
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Reckon most of us got the snip last night mate:(
Not had the snip but from what my mate told me it takes two years to heal :))
https://youtu.be/Qyclqo_AV2M
J P G n R
MULLET AND CO 2 on 24TH JUNE 2016 9:13 PM
Changing the subject. But has anyone else had the snip?
God help ye!
I blame the Basques, from whom the southeren Ehglanders are partly descended way back when when they trapsed up over land and a frozen English channel to mingle with the locals there.
Pathetic, how Winning Captains tried to steal the thunder of contacting Private Eye about the tax report, NOT res 12 . Pathetic.
So a Polish MEP is heartbroken. Oh dear. Luckily he can always register at the European talking shop to claim his attendance fee and then bunk off to do whatever he likes in Brussels, just like Mrs Kinnock (now Baroness Kinnock) frequently did.
WC … #Forgot’
NEUSTADT-BRAW on 24TH JUNE 2016 5:35 PM
HH loon,
Add to yer list a couple of days in Galveston during peak hurricane season! :))
TC 45
Great news about KT.Seems have to have everything required to go far in the game.Looking forward to watching him develop.
https://youtu.be/3hEfcawx6Fc
Cameron wil now leave parliament and go with a generous lump sum and pension worth hundreds of thousands of pounds.
The Polish Minister interviewed on Channel 4 had a father who fought with the RAF during the War. He was simply expressing his anger at today’s vote. He echoed my own feelings. Some other Englishman was interviewed who said something to the effect that it was merited because we won the war.
Lee get what England votes for!
For the second time within a 2 year period the older majority have voted against the will of those they profer to care about. Again a sizeable majority of the youngest generation of voting age have been betrayed by their supposed wise elders. Elders on this occasion who (not all but a very sizeable number) have voted on their base low level educted xenophobic and in a high instance outright racist belief.
Personally as an Independence supporter for many years and with the REMAIN majority in Scotland I understand the call for another referendum. I am however conflicted as I think an Independence victory ( very likely ) at this time would multiply the current uncertainty 10 fold and completely implode an already imploding economy.
I fear for our children and their’s. What chance in hell do they have. I for one will be advising my son to secure a good quality of education in his upcoming 4th, 5th and 6th years and if still possible secure a good quality university degree and then get the fuck out of the UK were selfishness, xenophobia and base instinct racism will go on and destroy any future that should be available to him.
If I were a young adult I doubt I’d be giving any single elderly or mature in years person an ounce of respect they crave and believe they are obligated to recieve.
1.5 Trillion in debt and these muppets expect that with that hanging over every citizens head that we can afford to leave the relative economic security of the European Union? All because of a fear of the white Eastern European (mainly educated and/or qualified) tax paying immigrants. Ok no one likes seeing the foreign beggers on our street corners but do we like seeing our homegrown beggars in equal number if not more, mainly created by our failed social and moral society and political elite who are corrupted by personal gain and abuse of position to make the wealthier richer and the poorest dependant on handouts.
The EU is long way from being a fair political system but it has a higher standard of social democratic conscience than any Weatminster government could or will ever now likey have.
The question of a 2nd independance referendum is now a very difficult one for me as I fear it will completely destroy the economy of the UK and that of Scotland over the short term while any negotiations for release from Westmonster take place that by the time it happens it will be to far gone to recover from.
At this moment I think it will take anywhere between 20 to 30 years to recover after the UK’s exit from the EU.
But hey at least we will pretend to be doing something about immigrants.
THE WISE OLD OWLS HAVE FUCKED UP!
MWD
Johnson, Gove and Farage running the government terrifies me
Mullet & Co.
Sipsini is not exaggerating, 2 years minimum.
The Exiled Tim
I still can’t believe the government balled millions of people who knew very little about the economics / financials surrounding the EU to vote to leave or stay in …. I ‘m convinced Cameron wanted to use the vote to cement the EU relationship, confident most would vote to stay …. He got some shock, eh ….
The north of Ireland receive massive EU FINANCIAL HANDOUTS …VOTED TO REMAIN…
Scotland receive massive EU subsidies ….voted to remain
London is the British financial hub within the EU…. Voted to remain
Wales receive subsidies …remain
England, outwith London …voted out due immigration worries
YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW
AURORABOREALIS79 9:19 PM
I live enough long on this world to say that I have never ever heard Polish politician saying what Great Britain should, or should not do.
Even when we had that controversy with Boruc crossing himself and police, Polish sport press brought the topic on headlines but I have not heard voices of condemnation or good advices from our side. We respect free will, democracy but we also rate high our rights for freedom.
That is why I wrote my first post. It’s very hard to believe it was said literally what Ernie Lynch has posted.
Not in that manner:look we helped you, you owe us this or that.
67 heaven
Wales voted out
Holey moley the amount of panty wetters today on here and in work. it’s scary to think about their resolve if they actually faced a real crisis.
John Lennon-Power To The People
https://youtu.be/RtvlBS4PMF0
Those that were imploring their fellow Scots to vote no, are now knashing their teeth that England has effectively dragged Scotland into Brexit, and the inevitable yolk of a fascist right wing government and financial consequences from God only knows where.
Are the two standpoints mutually exclusive?
Jimthetim53
I have all the emails. I contacted the Tribune de Geneve, Guardian and Private Eye.
Auldheid and BRth were kept in the loop and reported back to the other guys. Paul was also copied in.
I also dealt with the Herald although they made the initial contact.
All pretty pathetic though. You should get involved and I am sure things would go much better.
Stealing the Res 12 Thunder – brilliant.
Watching foals at Glastonbury
First time heard them live, great set.
Sin City Bhoy
“Those that were imploring their fellow Scots to vote no, are now knashing their teeth that England has effectively dragged Scotland into Brexit, and the inevitable yolk of a fascist right wing government and financial consequences from God only knows where.
Are the two standpoints mutually exclusive?”
Those that resented their fellow Scots voting No to Independence said that they wanted to bring power closer to the Scots electorate and to punish those politicians that shared a platform and a position with Tories during the referendum. They are now gnashing their teeth because they did not get the chance to keep power in Brussels and Strasbourg or get what David Cameron wanted.
Are those two standpoints mutually exclusive?
Austerity would have arrived harder and faster with a Yes Vote last year. We managed to avoid tanking the economy at that referendum. So, we will make up for it at this one.
ZBYSZEK on 24TH JUNE 2016 9:34 PM
Millions of people were in no doubt that yesterdays ballot would vote to remain.
Today tho……
Here we go, Here we go, Here we go…
Nigel Farage has called for firearm laws to be relaxed, calling the current ban on handguns “ludicrous”.
The Ukip leader criticised the “kneejerk” restrictions on handguns imposed after the 1996 Dunblane massacre in which Thomas Hamilton killed 16 schoolchildren and a teacher before shooting himself.
The laws were brought in by Sir John Major, the then Tory prime minister, and extended to a total ban by Tony Blair’s Labour government in 1997.
Asked about gun controls, Farage said: “I think proper gun licensing is something we’ve done in this country responsibly and well for a long time, and I think the kneejerk legislation that Blair brought in that meant that the British Olympic pistol team have to go to France to even practise was just crackers.
“If you criminalise handguns then only the criminals carry the guns. It’s really interesting that since Blair brought that piece of law in, gun crime doubled in the next five years in this country.”
“I think that we need a proper gun licensing system, which to a large extent I think we already have, and I think the ban on handguns is ludicrous.”
Ian Mearns, Labour MP for Gateshead, said the comments were an example of “how extremely dangerous Ukip are”.
“Families facing a cost-of-living crisis will find it bizarre that one of Nigel Farage’s priorities would be to relax Britain’s tough gun controls,” he added.
If anyone (and there are plenty) thinks that the correct response to yesterday’s result is Scottish Independence, they are do very wrong.
It may very well happen, but would only add to the current mess – it would take the best part of ten years to achieve and would result in business activity on Scotland reduced to hairdressers, nail bars and B&Bs.
Being older and settled, I can sit and watch the ‘show’ – but I fear for my daughters, grandchildren and all young people in the country.
Just a quick to say that we are living in interesting times at the moment and it is going to be interesting for some time yet.
We are living in an emotional age — an age of fact free politics.
The Indy Ref started it — the Nats couldn’t find an argument to lose.
However they had a villain and they had emotion leading to a jump in leavers from 30 to 45%.
They managed to harness those at the bottom of society — those who had nothing to lose — to their own private crusade even though these people were now voting against their own economic best interest.
Now we have the BrExit public school types showing the Nats what real, old school, frontier gibberish populism can achieve if Old Monkey Glands is on your side and you have a brass neck you could mine.
2014 — Politics of emotion nearly won the day.
2015 — Politics of emotion wins the day as the lumpen proletariat vote against their economic interest to keep the marauding Scots from treating Milli-E as their very own sock puppet.
The Scum Dream Team win and Britain loses.
2016 — Politics of emotion win as fact free debate moves to a new higher level.
People have voted against their own economic interest to take their country back.
What no one seems to know is what country do they want?
1900’s — Edwardian social and income divisions?
1930’s — Hunger games poverty and disease?
1950’s — Social snobbery, curtain twitching and invisible decline?
1970’s — Mass emigration, 3 day weeks and dysfunctional industrial relations?
1980’s — Maggie’s manufacturing implosion and Lawson’s substance free boom?
The problem is that the stone has been turned over and some unpleasant sights are now in full view.
Getting rid of Polish plumbers and Spanish nurses is only the start.
Once a head of steam has been built up how long until it is forced repatriation that is on the agenda for Ex British citizens.
We are now going to have the full on migration debate that civil society has shied away from for 40 years. I fear that this patrician attitude now lost for good will soon be missed and seen to be missed as the debate runs headlong into the gutter.
For the record that gutter will not recognise the border at Carlisle.
The good news is we can now experience all the thrills and spills and terror of an extremely long ride on the big economic dipper from the comfort of our own armchair with the added benefit of not seeing any brown skinned types or ones with dodgy East Europeanish accents(shudder) doing all the crappy fairground jobs that we ourselves won’t do as the pay, hours and conditkons are truly crap too.
Thanks Dave.
MATS NILLOC,
Imo, it can’t be any worse than staying in a UK run by nutters like Gove, Farage and Johnson. Can it?
And to add to that SFTB you’ll now have far right hard line Tories taking over from a supposed liberal Tory just to remove the ongoing corruption of Westminster.
You got what you voted for! Only 10 times worse. A corrupted establishment drifting from the right into the realms of the far right.
I’m sure one day your kids will thank you.
Funnily enough. Remember all that nonsense about an independant Scotland not being able to join the EU. Threats and fear of being left on the outside looking in without the protection of our 27 independant neighbours and their political and economic security.
Yeah. Funny stuff eh? Now we won’t have that and the poorest will be further victimised by the politically corrupt establishment of Westmonster and it’s elected criminal elements.
MWD
That’s democracy for you or should we consider what happened in Ireland with the Lisbon Treaty and make us vote again? As for Scottish independence? the SNP admitted loosing the argument on the currency. That leaves a future referendum with two options,new currency or Euro both of which the electorate will not accept. Came on here tonight to get away from politics.
Ron B @ 9.29
ShamCam only took the job of PM to pad out his CV.
You are right — the serious money making for that second rate walloper starts now.
George Harrison-Give Me Love
https://youtu.be/s-KAvPbO8JY