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What price Dundee game in US?

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What price an SPFL game against Celtic in America? £2m? More? You can’t blame Dundee for being enterprising but I can’t see this initiative happening.

Celtic are the Great Gravy Train of Scottish football. We defy the status of our league to reach European Nirvana, which enriches us but also pays a healthy dividend to our supportive (cough) domestic competitors. The Caravan of Celtic arrives once or twice a year at each location, bringing paying fans and TV cameras. Therein lies the business model of many Scottish football clubs.

This is fair enough, but there are limits beyond which it’s inappropriate to spread the Gravy.

Don’t think I’m being sentimental here. Dundee can play their home games wherever they like as far as I’m concerned. They can move them to the US, in fact, if they convince the residents of Dingwall to do likewise, I’d have no problem with the ideal. Just so long as it’s consistent with a significant growth strategy for Celtic. The odd £1m here or there isn’t worth it for us otherwise.

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  4. petec on

    He might have his hands up…………..

     

     

    I don’t Believe I am in with bad Dudes.

     

     

    EXCITING TIMES being a Christian, possibly.

     

     

    Lets go Shopping?

  5. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    ” Leadership ” book and T.V. interview.

     

    Alex Ferguson.

     

    Marvellous compliment he plays to Jock re. ” networking “, inside info. on the scribes and pharisees and their phoibles .

     

    Both appeared at a Q and A at Glasgow Uni. Union in `70 .

     

    Mates who were there described the event in glowing terms.

  9. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 13TH JANUARY 2017 5:22 AM

     

     

    Tommy was no longer there to look after his interests.

  12. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 13TH JANUARY 2017 5:26 AM

     

    MACJAY

     

     

     

    Thanks,mate. He’s that,alright. I’ll mail him your post in case he misses it.

     

     

    =================================================================

     

     

    I`ll see you both again sometime over a glass and an altercation.

     

     

    :-)

     

     

    Brendan is ours.

  13. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    MACJAY 525

     

     

    Yes,indeed. Sad how things have turned out for him since leaving us.

     

     

    I hope Karamoko stays long enough to get his feet on the ground. He certainly has an example to learn from.

  15. petec on

    I stopped posting Consp Jibber jabber years Ago….. I realised I was being DUPED… It took a long Time for me to Realise.

     

     

    Jeus Christ is the Truth. ;))

  18. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 13TH JANUARY 2017 5:31 AM

     

    MACJAY 525

     

     

     

    Yes,indeed. Sad how things have turned out for him since leaving us.

     

     

     

    I hope Karamoko stays long enough to get his feet on the ground. He certainly has an example to learn from.

     

     

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    A sixteen year old has little say in his future. Head turned by others.

     

    Sincerely , I wish him all the best.

     

     

    Karamoko ?

     

    When our star has risen , as it continues to do with Brendan , sanity may prevail.

     

    Perhaps a bit part player in where we should be .

     

    And must be.

  20. TinyTim on

    Karamoko already been agreed that Man City will get first option at age 17/18.

     

    He has also decided to play for England if chosen.

     

     

    TT

  22. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    TINYTIM on 13TH JANUARY 2017 6:12 AM

     

    Karamoko already been agreed that Man City will get first option at age 17/18.

     

     

    He has also decided to play for England if chosen.

     

     

     

    TT

     

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    So be it.

     

    What you can`t change , accept.

  24. MoonbeamsWD on

    TT

     

     

    First bit hearsay. Second bit factual.

     

     

    First bit I doubt very much that any agreement in place. Who knows how far this young lad will or will not come on? And if he does turn out, and there is every chance he will, to be the next Jimmy Johnston then why would club put all it’s eggs in one basket with regards restricting potential returns to just what Man City might offer. This will just be chat amongst parents of team mates from Park Villa. My brothers bhoy played in same team as the lad. I’ll ask him what hearsay he’s heard. Won’t confirm either way obviously as it’s just rumour and unsubstantiated rumour at that.

     

     

    He has plumped for England. Why would you want to play with Scotland?

     

     

    MWD

  26. Jobo Baldie on

    Good morning friends and a Big Happy Friday from a still snow covered (though no more since last night) cold and frosty East Kilbride.

     

     

    For anyone who has entered Goals For Shay but has yet to send in their first pick, remember the games kick off tomorrow.

     

     

    Still accepting new entries all day today, of course so you should hopefully know the drill by now and just drop a short email to cqnpredictor@gmail.com and we’ll get back to you early evening with all the details you need.

     

     

    Nearly there ;-)

  27. IanBhoy929 on

    Good morning CQN from a windy, bitterly cold but as yet snow free East Devon. As my old Mother used to say,”I’m nithered.”

  29. VFR800 is now a Monster 821 on

    Word of The Day

     

     

    Inanition /ˌɪnəˈnɪʃən/

     

     

    noun

     

    1. mental, social, or spiritual weakness or lassitude

     

    2. exhaustion from lack of nourishment; starvation.

     

    3. lack of vigor; lethargy.

     

     

    Word Origin

     

    C14: from Late Latin inānītio emptiness, from Latin inānis empty; see inane

     

     

     

    KTF

  36. Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan on

    Good Morning, Good Morning, Good Morning

     

     

    As Gay Byrne used to say.

     

     

    I see discussion of the fabulous Kilkelly Ireland from that old roaster ACGR and others.

     

     

    I first came across the song when my old man returned from the US of A sometime in the late 70’s and brought back an LP featuring Danny Doyle. Two tracks on the record stood out – The fabulous Christmas in the Trenches and Kilkelly.

     

     

    The song has a fascinating history having been inspired by a series of letters discovered in the attic of a house in Washington DC.

     

     

    Personally, I have often thought that most versions are song slightly too slow and do not reflect the fact that each verse (each letter) starts full of positive or forceful information but then reverts to the complete longing of a father for his departed son.

     

     

    In those days, emigration really meant emigration and when someone set off for the new world it was very likely that they would never see those they left behind again. Clearly “son John” sent money, photographs and whatnot home regularly (ish) but the song yearns for him or indeed his family to physcally return to Ireland – which he never does.

     

     

    Further, the last verse is open to great interpretation. Here, the writer is no longer the longing father but John’s brother Michael who has been out to the US but has returned home with money and has bought land and built a house.

     

     

    In his letter, Michael makes it plain that despite the loving attention of sister Bridget and her kids, and Michael’s being present when the old man passed away, it was still John who he called for at the end.

     

     

    Is there a hint of bitterness in there? More than a hint of the fact that the lost lamb is the one who is always treasured most in the mind?

     

     

    And the last line is a cracker — full of anger, regret, love, longing, disappointment and yet hope. It is a plea to John just to come home to visit as “we’d all love to see you again” – and yet you are left never knowing if he did or didn’t.

     

     

    The song fascinated me in many ways because it was an accurate historical record of the lives of real people.

     

     

    I later discovered that the school teacher mentioned (Pat McNamara) was a very interesting character who was far more than a local teacher.

     

     

    In those days, many rural Irish were illiterate and so the schoolteacher would offer a service of writing letters to loved ones all over the world with the writer virtually dictating what was to be said. Clearly, here the father couldn’t read or write but son John, thanks to Mr McNamara no doubt, could.

     

     

    McNamara was a very real man and kept a journal of all that he did and so it became a great source of information for historians about what life was like and who came and who went from that part of Ireland.

     

     

    A great article on the song and Pat McNamara can be found here:

     

     

    http://www.irishidentity.com/extras/roots/stories/kilkelly.htm

     

     

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    Remember to buy a raffle ticket for the Bitton shirt as it is being raffled for a great cause – see here:

     

     

    http://www.ebid.net/uk/for-sale/matchworn-signed-celtic-shirt-with-celtic-charity-foundation-logo-nir-bitton-153619704.htm

  37. prestonpans bhoys on

    I had a look at the DR today will buying breakfast. They actually have a guide to the Hun’s friendly with Leipzip; location; transport; food and drink etc

     

     

    You would think it’s some major European trip they are doing, the DR lives in a bubble…..

  42. setting free the bears for Res. 12 & Oscar Knox on

    OK since we are bored by the winter break I have decided to select a Best of the Rest SPFL selection for the first half of this season.

     

     

    Based on what I’ve seen of the rest of the teams at CP or on TV:-

     

     

    Goalkeepers:- Last year Scott Bain of Dundee was the outstanding prospect but he seems to have levelled off this year. Some veterans like Jamie McDonald are playing well and Foderingham had a good game against Celtic but the two best I have seen are Zander Clark at St. Johnstone and Jack Hamilton at Hearts. As the latter has the better all round game and is younger, he gets the decision.

     

     

    RB:- Marcus Fraser at Ross runs all day and is genuine but seems to lack an extra edge to raise his game above good to outstanding. The outstanding RB of value is Hearts’ recent crock Calum Paterson. My main hesitation here is I don’t fancy him as a RB, maybe as a right wing back because he is a very good attacker but too often culpable for conceding goals. Still, if the next best is Tavernier, who can’t defend or Logan, who is merely tidy, Paterson begins to look like Pele. The Hearts man is the choice as a player to fill, rather than perform, the RB slot.

     

     

    CBs- Rangers best back this year has been the carthorse Clint Hill and, to be honest, Scotland is not blessed with good CBs. Aberdeen play the bombscare Taylor and the journeyman Considine, leaving Mark Reynolds on the subs bench. Liam Lindsay is a good scorer for Thistle but not a great defender yet. For me, the best of a bad bunch are Rossi at Hearts and Barton at Thistle.

     

     

    LBs- Both Callum Booth and Kevin Holt have been effective attacking LWBs but none are great defenders. This is another shortage position in Scotland and the best of this bad lot is probably The Grass at Ibrox.

     

     

    Def Mids- Again a shortage position. Ryan Jack is ordinary and functional with no USP. His colleague, Kenny McLean is a scorer and free kick specialist and a better bet. Andy Halliday is a hard working unspectacular but steady player and young Ryan Edwards at Thistle seems to have some promise. Massimo Donati does well here but gets messed about moving into a CB slot at times. I’ll pick McLean and Edwards.

     

     

     

    Attacking Mids- We actually have a few options here. The young Hamilton lads Ali Crawford & Danny Redmond continue to show that they are being coached well. At Aberdeen, Johnny Hayes is a major counter-attacking threat and young Maddison, on loan from Norwich looks skilled but lightweight. The veteran Kenny Miller at Rangers has to be respected for his workrate and the young boy McKay played very well against us but is still a slightly less reliable version of Gary Mackay-Steven. The best player, in the front support 3 role this year has been Danny Swanson at St. Johnstone who has been in a rich consistent vein of form. My choice, a bit unbalanced, would be Maddison, Swanson and Hayes.

     

     

     

     

    Forwards- There are plenty of prolific scorers in Scotland who are big immobile target men. Liam Boyce at Ross County, Adam Rooney at the dons, and “Gies your chips or I’ll batter you” Waghorn at Ibrox, who got knocked out of the team by a submarine impersonator. Souleymane Coulibaly at Killie has scored several great goals this year but is a Marc-Antoine Fortune type scorer of great goals, rather than a great goal scorer. The best footballing scorer up front this season has been Louis Moult who has a bit more than goals to his game- he is my choice.

     

     

     

    So, in a 4:2:3:1 line up, I go with :-

     

     

    Hamilton (Hearts)

     

     

     

    Paterson (Hearts) Rossi (Hearts) Barton (Thistle) & Wallace (Sevco)

     

     

    Edwards (Thistle) McLean (Dons)

     

     

    Maddison (Dons) Swanson (St. J) Hayes (Dons)

     

     

    Moult (Well)

     

     

     

    Subs- Clark (St. J) Lindsay (Thistle) Halliday (Sevco) Redmond (Hamilton) and Miller (Sevco)

     

     

     

    Of that lot, I’d suggest only Hamilton, Paterson and Hayes have a long-odds chance of establishing as squad members with Celtic. Most are just hard working unspectacular Scottish pros.

     

     

    I’m starting work now- what do you think?

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