It is not making a murderous gesture that is the greatest affront; it is the normalisation of it by opinion makers and influencers. We are asked to believe that it is acceptable for our footballers to make a throat cutting gesture when leaving the field. It is not, never has been, and at no time in Scottish football’s often disreputable history has there ever been such a low point.
There have always been some low-life footballers and there most probably always will be. They are worth our pity as well as our condemnation. Trying to normalise the despicable is new.
I don’t believe any of those who are defending murderous gestures honestly want to live in a society where this is the norm. What they want, is to stop Celtic winning nine-in-a-row, and they are prepared to subvert every ethical value to achieve this.
This is what we are up against – and why we cannot submit.
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Norrie, If he said the Earth was flat,. Could he be charged. Same difference.
Hot Smoked
In my view told porkies about the Club Sevco, dragging Celtic fans into the ones spreading this, in his words untruth
So calling Celtic fans liars
Gene
I do accept this, and our board who gave said nothing, other than a quip by PL at an AGM
Which in turn brings me to Paul67 comment
Fans do not Submit
Is that unlike our board Paul, why do you expect the fans to be different from the board
Oh yes, we care
Just for clarity
It is AJ claiming only Celtic fans claim Sevco are a new club, therefor telling porkies
Could this not be proven by challenging AJ no Surrender directly in court ???
Norriem.
That was the bit that irked me, that he only mentioned Celtic fans.
Hearts fans, view from Gorgie, have already said on Twitter, what about us A.J. It’s not just Celtic fans that think you are a new club and they are correct.
Norriem
I think he mentioned fans of other Clubs as well.
Regardless, he is talking nonsense but I don`t think he is doing anything illegal.
Anyway, it is a goodnight from me.
Golf at first light.
Incidentally, have any of you golfers on here ever walked off the course and thought: That was as good as I can play.
Sorry, it was not AJ who mentioned other fans; it was just this bit from the relevant article that made me think that
`:The Ibrox faithful are regularly taunted by a section of their city rivals, and by some from the rest of Scottish football, who maintain the club ceased to exist`
Anybody having trouble posting from an iPad?
If sevco claim to be the same club , produce their exit from administration certificate as Hearts fan Matt Leslie tells sevs on Twitter when he tells them they are a new club. He has told them over the past few years if they produce an exit from administration certificate he will stop calling them a new club.
Tonight Matt has retweeted a tweet from Tom English and I quote Rangers pay a handsome retainer to a person who previously wrote “ Rangers FC as we know them are dead. It’s all over”.
Dallas.
Hey J.
Good to see you posting.
Not often I agree with Tom English but I will make an exception this time.
Hun-guffery
bought and paid for.
In scoddland there is no Level playing field for Celtic or Timdom.
I’m amazed at what we’ve achieved in the teeth of bitter, sleekit, bear-faced aggression.
The nodding hun nugget should be laffed aw the way back to Idaho or wherever………
There never seemed to be any inbetween with Big Yogi. He was either brilliant or dire. On his day, he was quite simply unplayable. When it wasn’t his day……frustrating isn’t the word.
Jimmynotpaul, I dislike the the way the majority of the Hearts behave toward us but there are Hearts fans , as Auldheid has previously pointed out from the Scottish Football Monitor , who similar to us us , want the truth told about the first Ibrox club and the current one.
I’m back at work tomorrow, I’ll e mail you.
Bed time. Sleep well everyone.
From @Tim_Poster
@HarryBradyCU @bhearnon @Richiestoke @CelticFC @ETimsNet @Pmacgiollabhain Peter Lawwell has all the irrefutable evidence to put an end to this nonsense and deliberately decides not to use it. He is as guilty, if not more guilty, than any of the perpetrators. Unforgivable
From @videocelts
NEWSFLASH, at 10am on Friday 27 July 2012 Celtic submitted. Now it is catching up with them the club has gone into hiding. An un-named spokesman speaks to Glasgow Times. When Bulldog Robertson at Ibrox is showing you up it’s time to take stock and bolt. https://twitter.com/CQN/status/1212716689889976320
https://twitter.com/heavidor/status/1212813545165008903?s=12
Lest we forget….
From @airthreycastle3
@CQN We submitted the moment lawwell put his bonus above decades of cheating,he will now reap what he sowed this won’t end well for lawwell and the plc.
Good Evening All,
And a Happy New Year to you.
I am sorry but all this bollocks about racism, Morelos, etc etc is all just bullshit and spin which distracts from the real matter in hand.
So let me recap quickly on what we should really be focusing on.
Here we are at the start of a new year having just been beaten at home by our nearest title challengers.
Those challengers strengthened their pool with ridiculous numbers of players, and ridiculous wages, just so that they could be better than everyone else in the league (bar Celtic) and so that they could cope with suspensions and injuries without being seriously affected.
Just like the EBT years only legitimate — or at least more legitimate.
With regard to Celtic, the challengers could only hope for a couple of good results and for Celtic to slip up somewhere – which we did against Livingstone.
If the honours are even between Celtic and Rangers in terms of league games, and we slip up and they don’t – then Rangers are champions, there will be no 9 in a row, and the celebrations down Ibrox way will be gargantuan.
And there will be no one to blame but Celtic themselves.
At the start of this season we started with an unprecedented amount of cash in the bank.
We were going for the Champion’s league but failed to strengthen the spine of the team to the necessary standard (certainly before the qualifier with Cluj) and we paid the consequences.
Our rate of progression in CL qualifiers is nowhere near the 3 out of 5 ratio that used to be our target and we are losing out in the mini league that is the CL qualifiers to clubs who we should be able to beat and who have far smaller resources.
However, European progression is not the issue here although that progression, or the real desire to progress as far as we can, is a useful guide and barometer to the current malaise within the business thinking within the club.
At the start of the season, when discussing the domestic season to come, I was told that Peter Lawwell (no less) posed this question:
“Never mind 10 in a row — imagine there was no 9 in a row?”
Those in charge at Celtic Park have been aware from the very start of the season that those at Ibrox would go hell for leather to stop Celtic reaching 9 in a row — even if that lead to a further insolvency of an Ibrox based club.
They knew that there was a real challenge coming and that it would not be too difficult for RFC to be able to beat the rest and so get closer to Celtic.
This being so, it was incumbent upon the board to have a recruitment policy in place which saw the team strengthen as best it could to withstand that challenge and to prepare for Europe.
Yet I am told that certain transfer negotiations were conducted with some players on the basis of “we will sign you if we qualify for the Champions League” rather than signing the same player to so qualify.
One of the targets was a “battering ram” centre forward in the £15 Million bracket as well as a play maker who would be a cut above what we have at the minute.
As well as some young players who we could bring on, we were going to bring in players who would command a first team place right away.
That has not happened and we have apparently downgraded the intended level of investment in the centre forward department.
There is a real sense of failing to prepare as we enter this window as things are no longer in our hands when in fact they should have been.
Let me give you an example or two.
First, there is a report this evening that Man Utd want Odsonne Edouard in this window.
Now, I doubt that will happen but Man U are rich enough to offer some kind of eye watering deal to take the player at the start of next season which Celtic might be keen to accept.
The player would prefer to go to PSG however, and so might not be keen.
Irrespective of whether any of this does or does not happen, could such discussions upset the player, distract him from his game etc etc?
And if it does, do Celtic have a back up striker of equal ability and reliability?
The answer is no.
Next, some say that Celtic tend to stretch their legs and open up a gap after Christmas. Well , have a look at the fixture list and tell me who has the easier run of games over the next 12 weeks?
The answer isn’t Celtic.
Each leg of a race has to be managed and in this phase of the season we do not have the inside lane.
Accordingly, if we are to put on the afterburners and fire on all cylinders then we need to refresh and strengthen our squad in a fashion that we have not done in previous winter windows.
We have cash in the bank, and in the past we were told that we would not risk insolvency by spending too much money, which I agree with.
However, there is no risk of insolvency but there is a risk of succumbing to a larger but less talented Ibrox side who are reasonably well managed on the field at least.
With our available resources we should be a club that is out of sight, but the resources are kept in the bank and not on the substitutes bench and that is no way to give yourself the best chance to win a football league.
Part of the art of management in any business is to manage risk, and one of the ways to manage risk is to anticipate future risk and potential risk.
In my opinion, Celtic have not accurately assessed the risk coming from Ibrox, nor acted appropriately to counter their management strategy.
In certain seasons, such as this one and possibly next year, it be necessary to spend more than you otherwise would achieve specific landmark business targets.
However, if you don’t do that, if you don’t take control of the situation and run the race to your own greatest strengths, then you risk defeat.
Forget all talk of the money being kept for a hotel or whatever (anyone who knows how you finance an hotel knows the landowner never does that) as that is nonsense.
If the Celtic board do not use their cash and liquidity assets to put the best possible team on the park with a view to achieving landmark results then they will have betrayed ordinary shareholders, a massive customer and fan base, and they will have damaged the reputation of Celtic football Club in the eyes of their own fans.
One of the Key Management Indicators of any management team is how successfully they utilise their asset base.
To my knowledge, a large bank balance has never scored a goal or won any competitive sporting competition.
Of Course, the board are to be congratulated in relation to the domestic success achieved in recent seasons, and the improvement in the financial fortunes of the club overall. However, each year brings new challenges, and the club starts from a new financial base at the start of each term.
Last seasons results are of no help this season and the current task for the board is the management of the here and now.
The here and now is immediate, is upon us, and demands our attention.
The Ibrox club will push on if at all possible.
The question is will we, and to what extent?
The answer should be that we will to the extent that we extinguish, or mitigate as far as possible, all risk.
Everything else is secondary.
‘Battering ram’ centre forwards for ‘15m’.
That’s Daily Record stuff.
With due respect, you’’re full of (albeit articulate) mealy mouthed waffle full of arse covering/ifs/buts/ maybe’s and told you so.
The fact is we have a credible challenge.
‘The true measure of a man is not where he stands during moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands during trial and controversy’ – Dr Matin Luther King.
Let’s see who has the balls.
BRTH- Good post on where we are right now.
@THE BLOGGER FORMERLY KNOWN AS GM on 2ND JANUARY 2020 10:43 PM
What point are you trying to make in your post? Let’s see who has the balls for what? I’d prefer to see us use our cheque book.
So there was an assault on our player after full time…Ryan Christie needed surgery on his balls…in any other sphere (pardon the pun) that’s ABH
Morelos …indicates the slitting of throats of Celtic supporters…miles before he could hear any alleged racist comments from our supporters…
Kent intimated the blowing out of our supporters brains using a gun
All needing cited…but squirrels from the disgrace of our teams set up
toosoonCSC
H.H.
We have been calling for a ” battering ram” striker long before the Daily Record.
Player type we have been famed for:-
John Hartson.
Chris Sutton
Moussa Dembele.
Van Vennegoor
And my old favourite, Pierre , there’s only one Pierre.
This is what we need.
HH.
To my knowledge, a large bank balance has never scored a goal or won any competitive sporting competition.
HeartoftheMatterCSC
J.J.
WTF…JAIL JAIL LOL
THE BLOGGER FORMERLY KNOWN AS GM on 2ND JANUARY 2020 10:43 PM
To be clear, I never read the daily record or any other Scottish Newspaper in relation to sport.
I can only tell you what I was told and that info didn’t come from any newspaper.
As for being “full of (albeit articulate) mealy mouthed waffle full of arse covering/ifs/buts/ maybe’s and told you so” ………
You are entitled to your opinion.
BRTH
Three words from long answer to MACJAY and reloads what a fun site
Short version singing or not singing IRA songs is irrelevant to English attitude to Celtic experienced by supporters when abroad or in England.
I agree that most English people associate IRA with bombing and not 1916 .
Therein lies the problem IMO
GN All
For fun read F….NG SITE!!
THE BLOGGER FORMERLY KNOWN AS GM on 2ND JANUARY 2020 10:43 PM
catch yourself on.
BRTH is the most able and capable and considered Celtic person I know. The law qualifications , with him winning many a complex argument , and his setting out of res12, well than means more than your own mealy mouthed comments,
try putting thing in context, and have some respect for the man.
SAINT STIVS on 3RD JANUARY 2020 12:43 AM
So differing option dosent matter. We might as well call a halt to this debate and leave it to the more educated.
I have always stated that all opinions and posts on CQN should be treated equally no matter the poster.
I’m sure you would agree, and incidently great post by BRTH.
HH to all.
BRT&H @ 22:04
It is already too late.
Four key results in the first half of the season.
Kilmarnock 1 Rangers 2
Livingston 2 Celtic 0
Rangers 1 Kilmarnock 0
Celtic 1 Rangers 2
With the majority of fixtures till the split away from home, including one at Ibrox, we are odds against for the title – the bookies have got it wrong.
This is our first real challenge for 8 years and we are flunking it from a position of financial strength – that is unforgivable.
BRTH. Indeed a fantastic post
Right now in one of the most important transfer windows since the last one
Or as peter lawwell calls it “ that horrible time when people try to spend my pension money “
All this spin from Paul67 under orders from PL , focus away from transfer window
I see we are after a 5m striker. Why do we need a back up to Eduard and the 10m+ striker we need to buy
Get it spent now. We have 50m. Spend at least 30m this window Peter got away with the failure at CL qualifiers Cmon DD step in a get this money spent
Apologies if posted already, but kinda appropriate?
https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2020/01/02/george-orwell-and-alastair-johnston/
A few thoughts…
I’m lucky enough to live overseas and as such can easily avoid almost every anti-Celtic headline, story, and mud-slinging rumour. However, there is no doubt we are in the middle of a dirty propaganda media war and getting trampled all over by our city rivals, and their ugly media darlings.
Celtic’s board need to grow a set… and fast!
As a first off, I’d ban the repeat media offenders from Celtic Park, preferably sine die. The filth at the Daily Record would be the first to go, and I’d make a significant example of them.
All media communications should be available for free to Celtic fans worldwide via Celtic TV, with Celtic FC controlling the questions asked (and answered).
Almost every open press conference sees agenda-laden questions from the Hun media to our manager and/or younger and foreign players. Answers invariably get twisted out of context and presented with as negative a spin as possible on the club and the players.
Secondly, I’d ban the 800 neanderthals from our stadium immediately.
We don’t need them and their filthy songbook. They need us way more than we need them… ditch them immediately, and tell the world exactly why we’re banning them.
Thirdly, call out the Huns on financial doping… formal complaints to SFA; SPL; and UEFA.
fleagle1888
Rosa Parks CSC
Fleagle1888. I agree. But can we wait till
After transfer window.
All focus on peter lawell spending our money
FLEAGLE 1888
Great post, and agree with every word of it …………..
But …………..
This all should have been done in 2012 when the Newco was founded and the same club myth was started.
Our board failed us in 2012 and continue to fail us with their silence on the cheating, bias and corruption in Scottish football.
Our board continue to fail us with the lack of response to the biased refereeing decisions and biased video review panel.
Our board failed us with their refusal to back Res 12
COSY CORNER BHOY on 3RD JANUARY 2020 12:00 AM
Three words from long answer to MACJAY and reloads what a fun site
Short version singing or not singing IRA songs is irrelevant to English attitude to Celtic experienced by supporters when abroad or in England.
I agree that most English people associate IRA with bombing and not 1916 .
Therein lies the problem IMO
GN All
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I`m much more concerned about the alienation from Celtic of potential SCOTTISH supporters due to the singing of IRA songs.
Big Jock `72 .
Incidentally , CQN may not be a ” fun site ” , but isn`t it great to be able to come on to a site where you are not blackballed because you don`t tow the politically correct party line ?
Was trying to think through the players who have left us this past 12 months
De Vries
Lustig
Gamboa
Toljan (Loan)
Boyata
Compper ( who)
Benkovic (L)
Tierney
Izaguirre
Mulumba
Allan
Dembele
Burke (L)
Wear (L)
This does not include any of the youngsters
Great squad management by the management or leadership, to need so many 1st team squad members in 1 window
Not to worry, we need not submit