We’re getting to that time of the transfer window when clubs with money and who are either underperforming, or who have silverware in sight, often make desperate decisions.
It is a remarkable statement of the times that three Celtic first team players have attracted interest from English Premier League clubs, at valuations that a year ago would appear eye-watering. It’s just as remarkable that we’ve not locked the suitors in a room until they emptied their wallets.
Seven months into the season, five credible Champions League performances and 27 peerless games in domestic football and our 34-year-old goalkeeper attracts a higher bid than would be achievable by any player at a Scottish club other than Celtic.
Not that I’m agreeing with all this ‘What we have we hold’ business. Every playing asset has a price, to borrow a regular CQN phrase from 2005.
I hear Peter Lawwell was spotted earlier buying tickets for tonight’s showing of T2 Trainspotting for himself, Brendan, Craig, Erik and Moussa. “Unreal” wage offers can turn a player’s head. Better get them to the movies with their phones switched off.
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SIPSINI
Howdy buddy.
Currently in Italy ’til Sunday. Been meaning to mail you but lost yer contact details!
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The fee might be much greater but the master plan remains the same, to have Moussa Dembele here for the CL qualifiers in the same way as we did with Virgil Van Dyk. Even in the unlikely event that Moussa suddenly stops scoring goals, his stock can only rise between now and the summer by which time Celtic should have safely qualified.
The issues are ‘stockpiling money’ and or ‘every pound will be reinvested in the playing staff’.
How many players can you, should you buy, when you sit a record number of points ahead of your biggest rivals and can even afford to lend them players?
Fortunes can be squandered and we should be planning ‘the Dembele money’ wisely, to attract a superior class of player to Celtic. This includes total transfer fee and the type of salary paid.
We did it with our manager and we should do it with playing staff, – pay them ‘the Dembele incoming cash’ buy better, and pay them top dollar to keep them here.
Celtic shopping in Harrods is the key to success
MON the Slump CSC
PHYLLIS DIETRICHSON:
“It’s disappointing because we had six months as a club to identify the type of players we wanted”, Rodgers told BBC Scotland.
“We had profiles in mind, but if they are not available, you can’t bring them in.
“I’m happy with what I have. Of course I want to improve it, but if it’s not in this window, it’s fine.
“We’ll do it in the summer”, the Celtic manager added
The transfer window was OK. Look at where we are today in comparison to last January! Miles ahead IMHO.
I’m very confident on tonights game. The sheep aren’t even close to us. OK, no Dembele of Griffiths but we still have the leagues (joint) top scorer in the team. Paddy Roberts did a great job in the centre on Saturday; we have Aitchison as an alternative.
I see the same 11 as Sunday unless Gamboa is carrying an injury; this gives Boyata and Bitton the opportunity to show that their improved form is real against the 2nd best team in the country. It will be tight if we are at 60% and they are at 100%; I don’t see that happening.
There’s a fantastic feel-good factor at the club; everyone is playing for their place. If you aren’t doing what you are being told to do, you are dropped. Simple! Look at the backline. Who, at the start of the season, would have predicted Gamboa, Simunovis, Boyata and Tierney against Lustig, Toure, Sviatchenko and Tierney?
The manager knows what he’s doing and I am happy with that!
KTF
Phyllis
Post match sky TV interview just after MOM award interview were Brendan stood in the wee dookit at the dressing room area just as you come up the tunnel.
MWD
Semantic minefield.
He is disappointed but that’s fine?
6 months to identify targets only to find out they are not available in the window… not very professional.
“I’m happy with what I have. Of course I want to improve” ???
What will we do in the summer?
Kitalba/MWD – thanks, I didn’t see the BBC Scotland interview, so we were talking at cross purposes.
BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 1ST FEBRUARY 2017 11:01 AM
Sorry but why does Dembeles stock have to rise between here and summer
he gets a bad injury and his value could plummet.
Now if he can get a game for France score and shine at Full international level
his stock could go through the roof but no guarantees.
PETERLAWELLCSC
As Pedro said when Brendan was unveiled, the business structure will remain relatively unchanged. Targets were identified, however when Clubs are hiking their prices we will not be held to ransom. Ref Henry Okenyuru and Darlington Nagbe. Brendan understand the way we do business. It obviously works, one look at the wonderful squad we have acquired proves this.
So Normal service has been resumed on cqn. No matter what the Celtic manager or CEO say it is always twisted in the most anti board way imaginable.
If Brendan had said he was really disappointed that we hadn’t backed him and that he was refusing to see out the rest of his contract some people would be only too delighted to believe him, but say he is okay that we didn’t get the targets identified and he is only lying to placate his evil CEO boss.
I asked this yesterday, what has changed from May regarding Peter Lawwell and him being “put in his box”?
BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 1ST FEBRUARY 2017 11:01 AM
I think you are absolutely right; the last few days have been a sea change IMHO. The big guns come calling and we say no. One of the hottest prospects in European football tells the EPL “I’m not f**ing leaving!”
That sends a message to clubs that we are in control of our own destiny; it also tells young up and coming players that this is definitely a fantastic place to be to develop as a footballer.
What’s not to like?
KITALBA on 1ST FEBRUARY 2017 11:03 AM
For me, the telling line is: We had profiles in mind, but if they are not available, you can’t bring them in.
To me, that states that they knew what they wanted, went for it but the selling clubs didn’t want to sell; much like Chelsea and Craig Gordon (and probably Moussa).
The last 36 hours have, to me, shown that the Club have fully backed the manager in refusing to sell, no matter what the price. My take on the Dembele/Chelsea story is this: no official bid was actually lodged but discussions took place. Along the lines of:
Chelsea: While we are on about Craig Gordon, what’s the deal with Dembele? Will you sell?
Celtic: Not interested.
Chelsea: Come on, every player has a price.
Celtic: No, not interested. We’d be talking north of £35M to even consider it but the boy wants to stay here.
Chelsea: What if we come in around £40? Will you sell?
Celtic: We’ve told you, we don’t want to sell and he doesn’t want to go.
Chelsea: OK, what about the summer? Will you sell?
Celtic: No. We need him for the CL qualification.
Chelsea: OK, we will speak to you again after that?
Celtic: OK, fill yer boots. Speak to you in July.
Brendan Rodgers IS running the football department!
KTF
I take it Virgil is still at Southampton then?
No £50million+ move to one of the ‘big guns’.
Therefore no sell-on fee.
Just have to wait ’til the summer then!
HH!!
PHYLLIS DIETRICHSON on 1ST FEBRUARY 2017 11:09 AM
Kit is right.
” Disappointed”
No sign of ” unhappy ” , however.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/38788375
Seems I’ve confused interviews, Doh! It was BBC one I believe now.
You can’t account for my stupidity.
:@-)))
MWD
Ok semantics
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As far as Henry Okenyuru and Darlington Nagbe go, it seems pretty much that their clubs have responded in much the same way as Celtic have. A more powerful and richer club comes in with an offer for the players; the selling club says “we don’t want to sell” or “we want more money”.
Celtic consider the players have been overvalued and decide not to proceed. Pretty much like buying a house; if the seller asks you for £10K more than you are willing to pay, you walk away.
A player is only worth what the buying club are willing to pay.
KTF
Oh well , Bada Bing ,told us ,a Hotel ,is getting built,were the ticket office it’s locating,over to the Lisbon lions stand,
“6 months to identify targets only to find out they are not available in the window… not very professional.”
Targets were not identified last July because Brendan had to look at what he had and who has improved in the last 6 months. 6 month ago Broonie was a target by some people to be punted, some change in the last 6 month, Broonie,Jamesie and Armstrong.
You can’t always get what you want, ask Chelsea about Craig G.
Brendan’s happy so I’m more than happy.
HH
VFR800 IS NOW A MONSTER 821:
Can I have the lotto numbers for the weekend and in case you didn’t notice, I haven’t commented on any of the ‘speculation’ all I said was that it was a semantic minefield the Brendan Rodgers interview, but that gave you licence to jump on the high horse, put on your ‘defender of the faith’ sherrifs badge and pure white hat.
Grow up son.
FESS19 on 1ST FEBRUARY 2017 11:31 AM
Brendan’s happy so I’m more than happy.
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Join the club , pal.
Celtic.
FESS19;
Those words were not mine, they came out of the mouth of Brendan Rodgers.
JC2
There was no mega bid just talk, most of it from French sources who rate Dembele much higher than the Scottish media for example and for obvious football reasons.
They don’t look down or have jaundiced views on Scottish Football, they keep a close eye on the CL and international football ( see what Thierry Henry thinks )
For what its worth, I also think Brendan Rodgers words are ambiguous with regard to why or how we handled the window. His statement is open to much wider interpretation, than the usual board finger pointing.
I also think he was too open ( for the first time and not like him ) with his words on Leigh Griffiths.
Just my opinion mind.
I think Moussa’s value will rise like his age, I don’t think you are valued £40M at 19 and then go back the way, but I also think that had there been the mega bid, we’d have driven him to the airport ourselves.
Macjay:
Your happy with what you’ve got but you want to improve on it and you are disappointed that it did not happen…. I’m happy when I am not disappointed and I don’t want to improve on what I’ve got.
Like I said semantic minefield.
Take from it what you will.
BOURNESOUPRECIPE:
The french journalist concerned were emphatic that Chelsea did make an offer in excess of 34 million. I think those journalist understand ‘integrity’ and ‘reputation’.
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So we Now have Pop Up Ads and the Dreaded X on AdBlocker Plus.. and the Page Jumps more than Big Efe after a Goal..
Worse than the Ole CQN about 6 Months ago..
Embdy Any Ideas How to Overcome this Plague to Celtic News that Used to be Quick..?
The Dreaded X is the Worst.. it Takes Five to Six presses to get the Feckin X off the Page so it won’t Cartwheel like Efe..¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Or does each Press cont as another ‘Unique’ CQN Poster.. WC will be on (2 Posts after this) Stating ‘At the Height of the Transfer Day Deadline CQN had 19,671,690 Uneeke Visitors’ 【ツ】
Summa of PopUpCultureAdsNumbersButLoosesPostersDoTheMathCSC
A player is only worth what somebody pays for him.
The King of Kings was only worth circa 600k?
It is football. It is not accounts nor chemistry.
BSR
I think BR comments on Griff was to inform fans who wonder why Griff isn’t being picked and of course so Griff knows that we know etc
just my view
Kit
Le Francais Adore
BOURNESOUPRECIPE:
I know and I know that a lot of French fans want him to stay at Celtic as opposed leave for an EPL team until he is 22/23. They see him as one for the future and they think that his ‘education’ would be best served at Celtic.
At least that is what I am told by the few French guys I know. And besides, the French (that I talk to) would rather a Scottish team did well as opposed an English team.
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NOUS RAPPELONS ARGINCOURT” CSC.
GENE
Absolutely.
So its now in the public domain that there are ‘issues’ with Leigh Griffiths?
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Is there anyone Else that think ‘DembelleGate’ and ‘CraigsList’ was a Smokescreen for the Real Big News Story..
That a Big Club had Enquired about Celtics Biggest Asset in the Last Week..????
Summa of Rodger10-4CSC
BOURNESOUPRECIPE:
And the makers of that video, L’Equipe are on of the French news sources standing by their assertion that Chelsea did make a bid, circa 34 million.
SUMMA OF SAMMI….
Are you using the adblocker plus browser bud
Working well here
HH
Kit
You’re right.
Vieille Alliance CSC
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Kit..
Henke.. was worth £350,000 We just got Him on the Cheap because of the Wim factor..
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KITALBA
“6 months to identify targets only to find out they are not available in the window… not very professional.”
As I tried to explain, we had 6 month to assess what we had, identify targets who could improve us (Nov/Dec ?) but they were not available in January.
Are you sure Brendan said “not very professional” if so I apologise as I could not find the interview.
Anyway Celtic are in a good place on and off the field so whats not to like
HH