Since Dinamo Kiev inflected Celtic’s first home defeat in European competition, on what was our first European game after winning the European Cup four months earlier, last night’s shocker to Sparta Prague was our 36th and worst home reversal in Europe.
Three years ago PSG scored five, but, unlike Sparta, they did not hit the woodwork on two other occasions, and they are PSG. Last season Cluj also scored four, winning by a single goal, but by any measure, across 58 years of home European ties, that is without shadow of a doubt, the low point. We are now the team fans all over Europe point to and laugh, all the money, yet Cluj, Copenhagen, Ferenvcaros, Sparta.
What has gone wrong?
It is not the formation. Without changing to three at the back, I don’t think we would have won the league last season. This season, we tried four, then three, then four, then both defensive lines at different times of games, but the formation is not the problem. It is possible to defend, control games and create chances with either line-up. And as we have seen, a change in formation does not make a slow or clumsy defender fast and assured. If only it were as simple as Scott Brown’s advancing years, or injuries and absentees; they are red herrings, this malaise is more serious.
Post-match, Callum McGregor and Neil Lennon spoke well. The player admitted to humiliation, the manager walked that fine line of showing contained anger, but he was clear: a lack of application from the players was to blame. What a thought to ponder.
I am fond of many in our squad; they have delivered success beyond my wildest imagination. I am fond of the manager too, for the same reason – results are all, and his filled the well some time ago. If I thought sacking the manager would safely resolve matters, I would tell you so.
It is Neil’s responsibility to put the players on the field in the correct frame of mind to compete at their best every time. He is failing in this, his criticism last night is self-directed, but sacking him right now would be a Gambler’s Play. It might work, it might result in carnage, anyone convinced they know how it would play out, underestimates the complexity of the question.
What I know for sure is that we stand at an historic precipice and no one is coping. We need to reframe the challenge ahead, if we do not, the season will play out as you now fear. Together, we have a great opportunity to record magnificent achievements, a fourth consecutive treble, 10 and all the glory that comes with it, but all you see are demands weighing everyone down.
This responsibility lies on Neil Lennon and the players because they are winners. They have the Scottish Government hammering them while punching for Newco, they have 10,000 critics weighing-in online (which they read and are not helped by). These are the wages of success, lesser mortals have six critics, let this fuel their engine.
After the game, Chris Sutton insisted Europe was still important to Celtic. Chris, you don’t live in the towns of Lanarkshire. Europe has gone this season; we need to reframe this too. Our three remaining Europa weeks are an opportunity to develop the squad and rest weary legs, while Newco will have at least five competitive Europa games. We must now think of this as an advantage; make the most of it.
We know how to win leagues and trophies. We were on our knees at New Year but while others “bottled it” and we got on with the business of winning. There are no white, saltire or union flags here, only green league title flags. To the manager, coaches and players, what a privilege this challenge is.
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PETEC on 7TH NOVEMBER 2020 3:33 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/08/trump-covid-drug-developed-using-cells-derived-from-abortion
IMWANDAN on 7TH NOVEMBER 2020 2:47 PM
‘Ernie, we all have subconscious biases… but the whole point of them being subconscious to the individual is that they are essentially invisible to the outside world.’
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Eh, no.
PETEC on 7TH NOVEMBER 2020 3:33 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/08/trump-covid-drug-developed-using-cells-derived-from-abortion
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as phil mcg would put it..
“awkward”
If I could weigh in on the Bolingoli vs Edmundson/Jones Equality of Treatment Act, I would like to use a football analogy that I read in the comments section of a newspaper recently.
Many years back I was outraged by the SFA or SPL decision to rescind a card issued to Austin McCann of Hearts for a reckless tackle on Shaun Maloney. If you remember the tackle Shaun was running up the left and heading for the opposition penalty box when McCann slid in at speed, missed the ball but slid between Shaun and the ball forcing Maloney to hurdle him and fail to stay on his feet when he landed. A good goal scoring opportunity was lost but Hearts were, correctly, reduced to 10 men.
It was a cast iron red card, I thought, and still do. However, Hearts appealed and argued that there was no damage as the player was not touched or hurt, therefore a red was inappropriate. And surprisingly, the SFA or SPL agree with this view and re-scinded the card.
I think Edmundson and Jones are being offered the McCann Defence, by Celtic supporters with a Yes/SNP bent. They did not get a chance to infect anyone within the football bubble (unless Arfield really was at the same party) whereas Bolingoli did.
This is analagous to arguing- “If Shaun Maloney had not hurdled the reckless tackle and suffered a broken leg, a red would have been justified”.
Most laws and regulations do not take outcome into account in sentencing, for good reasons. A drunk driver who is 8 times over the limit, when stopped and breathalysed, is, at least, as guilty as the driver who is slightly over the limit but knocks someone down or kills them, before they are stopped and breathalysed. We judge the recklessness of the behaviour and not the outcome, whether that is who was killed or injured, or who was placed at risk of infection?
The minute you break the Covid regulations you place yourself and, more importantly, others at risk. Every traveller who went with Bolingoli to Spain and back, without quarantining, placed themselves and others at risk. Every partygoer who attended with Jones and Edmundson did the same. The fact that neither Bolingoli or Jones or Edmundson contracted Covid due to their recklessness, is neither here nor there. They all took a calculated risk, they were all prepared to lie about it, and they were all caught at some stage in their intended risk-taking and deception.
So how on earth can the employers of Jones and Edmundson receive a letter of commendation?
The only party that deserves commendation here are the Police and the party whistleblower; it was they who alerted the police who broke up the party, named and fined the participants and ensured that thir employers knew and could take precautuons to ensure they would be quarantined until cleared of any sign of the virus taking hold. The police managed to reduce the risk of contamination to just the party goers and, perhaps all the taxi drivers who took them back to their respective homes.
I am astounded that Celtic fans would defend the discrimination between the two events.
Maybe Shaun Maloney and the ref should send Austin McCann an apology? Maybe we should commend Hearts FC for the successful appeal?
SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 7TH NOVEMBER 2020 3:56 PM
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Spot on.
I Posted a few days ago that the Hun players were ONLY prevented from mixing with their teammates in the days that followed, simply because they had been ” CAUGHT”.
Neither of them would have Grassed themselves or each other up to their Club etc, so they were fully prepared to put others at risk, just like Bolingoli.
HH.
with forlorn hope, I’ll post this in the hope lennie and broonie might come across it –
channel every ounce of nouse you have about celtic the spfl, every winker we’ve had to deal with, every bullshit coaching fad and armchair twat you’ve had to put up with and rip the living shit out of the mothers – apologies mods, wee bgfc and sparkleghirl
destroy them!
bring your thunder back lennie . I believe
big jimmy
https://twitter.com/sdceltic1/status/1325104530699137024?s=19
:-)
hh
Motherwell away is often a tricky fixture But if we cannot soundly put away this team with a reaction from Thursday, then we truly are lost. I know it won’t make any difference to the “Sack Him Now” message and it will not be a corner turned..
But it is still a necessity.
I really fancy we could see a 3 or 4 goal win by celtic tomorrow.
SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 7TH NOVEMBER 2020 4:26 PM
Motherwell away is often a tricky fixture But if we cannot soundly put away this team with a reaction from Thursday, then we truly are lost. I know it won’t make any difference to the “Sack Him Now” message and it will not be a corner turned..
But it is still a necessity.
I really fancy we could see a 3 or 4 goal win by celtic tomorrow.
channel every ounce of nouse you have about celtic the spfl, every winker we’ve had to deal with, every bullshit coaching fad and armchair twat you’ve had to put up with and rip the living shit out of the mothers
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have they not suffered enough, what with Ravenscraig closing and all that?
would you be happy with that.
President Elect Joe!!
Biden will need a war to fully cement his position
He will be spinning his globe at the moment to see where he can send some cruise missiles into
Now that Trumps out of a job, could he not take over out PR tbh he couldn’t do any worse than every PR team we’ve ever heard
Our and had 🙄
BP
“would you be happy with that.”
You must gave meant that to be rhetorical surely?
SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 7TH NOVEMBER 2020 3:56 PM
If I could weigh in on the Bolingoli vs Edmundson/Jones Equality of Treatment Act, I would like to use a football analogy that I read in the comments section of a newspaper recently.
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is the question that posed by Ernie?
that has already been exposed as a non comparison.
Boli done X
huns done Y
X never at any time equals y.
repeating the error only augments it imo.
it is not a pro or anti labour/snp/tory/emdielse.it is a distinction in law breaking.they differqq
is it the SNP govt? contrasting reaction to Celtic with Boli and Arfields party?
strong ground here,tinkle the old emotions
alas baseless.They were different in law at the time boli holidayed(uk law broke) and covid law broke at Arfields.
Is our anger really not at our olfrim board who are meek in reaction sending out our football manager to opine on an issue of governance.that to me is a squirrel.
is it the media knowledge here?
meeja knew all bout Boli going out,boli mbomba bolingoli tends to stick out on a flight list! day after new quarantine laws come into place.
Ball rolling across goal line with the tap in made once he appeared on team sheet..
contrast in meejah behaviour there most definetly is.easily farting out the commendation without reporting/investigati on the circumstances surrounding the events.
The plc see this as good olfrim bisniss
sad..
hh
SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 7TH NOVEMBER 2020 5:01 PM
i love your posts here and on sentinel celts, dont take this the wrong way but i get the impression your a neil lennon man, he should be out the door right now,,obviously IMHO; still luv ya to bits.LOL.
Madmitch – it went to extra time and penalties …..
… and Joe Biden (Celtic) won !
:)
Hail hail
Keep The Faith
Well done and good luck Joe
While you’ve got nothing much to do should we play 3 or 4 at the back tomorrow
GENE
5 at the back and a sweeper, 4 strikers.
” Haw, Boays!”
Gazza on his way to Washington with a fishing rod and six cans of lager.
I hope he realises it’s Washington DC.
Meanwhile just to really add to my football woes – Vale lose at home to Kings bloody Lynn
Another FA cup failure 😫
GENE
And I thought we had problems!
:-(
We think our MSM have power – apparently in the USA until they call the election there’s no result. 🤔
Philbhoy
I’ll get over the Vale by tomorrow – I still haven’t gotten over Feynord
MELBOURNE MICK on 7TH NOVEMBER 2020 1:57 PM
ONENIGHTINLISBON
I’ve grown up with the first British team to win the European cup
Treble treble winners, possible quadruple treble winners with a wee
unrepentant fenian at the helm.
That must hurt.
H.H. Mick
Me too Mick but your last comment says it all…..
Must have hated Jock, certainly not an unrepentant Fenian…….
GENE
I was at the Feyenoord final in Milan.
We drove.
5 of us in a Ford Corsair with one driver.
Apart from the result, we had a great week!
Philbhoy
So was I – had to sleep in the airport because of the fiasco of flight delays. Never been back to Milan since.
When Neil says the culture must change what does he actually mean.
So Joe Biden is the 46th president of the United States of America
This is a good thing for Planet Earth
But did you know………
Joe is now entitled to security from the Secret Service
As such Joe had to supply a code name
What did Joe choose……… Celtic
Yep the PotUSA code name is Celtic
there is hope
67EWC
GENE
My BIL was a continental lorry driver.
He lived in Cambridge.
I used to take a trip with him around this time of the year.
Visited some lovely places, including Milan.
Those were the days.
Donald you’re a loser.
https://twitter.com/jamiebhoy2009/status/1325091707927605248?s=19
crackin thread on how the European cup was on a window in Ardgay St.:-)
hh
HRVATSKI JIM on 7TH NOVEMBER 2020 5:47 PM
Donald you’re a loser
was waiting to see a “your fired” line :-).
hh
Donalds ducked.