Whisper it, let’s have a home win at Ibrox tonight

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On Saturday 8 September 1888, across the north of England, league football got underway. Since then leagues have spread to every corner of the globe where a remotely green patch of grass can survive. Thousands of national titles have been decided in that time, some, as we know to our cost, by the slenderest of margins.

The record winning margin, since 1888, across the globe, is shared by two teams, Paris St Germain and Cairo’s finest, Al Ahly, who both won their national titles by 31 points, PSG last year, Al Ahly in 2005.

Your team and mine are currently 30 points ahead of second placed Aberdeen with two games remaining. If we win away to Partick Thistle tomorrow, and against Hearts on Sunday, and Aberdeen drop fail to win both their remaining games, in Glasgow, against Newco tonight and Partick on Sunday, world football’s record books will be rewritten.

You don’t need the record books to tell you this is a special season, one you will remember fondly for the rest of your life, but in future, many the world over will learn about what Celtic achieved this season by reading their name either immediately below, or above, PSG and Al Ahly.

I remember the old days, when we hoped Aberdeen would drop points at Ibrox. Rangers were a basket case of a football club (nothing on today’s Ibrox incarnation, of course), while Aberdeen were one of the top clubs in Europe, and formidable competition for Celtic.

We can be more circumspect now with our sentiment, but – wait for it, I hope Brother Pedro gets a result tonight. He’s working on our place in history.

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  1. VFR800 is now a Monster 821 on

    BATEEN BHOY on 17TH MAY 2017 4:20 PM

     

     

    Yep he was our JJ but not that JJ.

  2. I blame Peter Lawell but no need to sack him now as Brendan in charge of football now,

     

     

    What do I blame him for?

     

     

    Well, I consider it disgusting that Peter would block the two best teams in Scotland, were one is the Champions Elect of Europe, from being shown live on TV tonight. These two teams sit in positions 1 and 2 in the SPFL Premiership If Only We Had & They Hadn’t league. In what other country would this disgraceful situation happen?

     

     

    I also blame the Pope, Glasgow City Council State Aid Department and Uninteruplted Histories.

     

     

     

    SUMMA OF SAMMI OF 001bhoy

     

     

    Na. If we are wanting them to win then it has to be 11-0. Why bother just being half arsed about our support for Sevco?

     

     

     

    MWD

  3. I see our game against Partick is on Sky sports 5.

     

    I don’t have that channel, so I will have to force myself to go to a Pub and down a few Pints of Beer….it’s terrible what a man has to put up with sometimes !

     

     

    Funny how after all these years the Huns and Mark feckin Walters ( Dirty sneaky wee animal) NEVER EVER mention the racist abuse that Paul Wilson suffered ( i know this was before walters time at BigotDome)….and how no one from Ipox has EVER made any comment to condemn the years that their Hun supporting Animals would launch Tatties on to the pitch ?

     

     

    At the time, I always felt Walters was ” A one trick pony”, and during several games v Celtic, he wasn’t slow at leaving the boot in, after the ball had gone…Dirty Wee Hun Cheatin Sneaky Bassa.

     

    if I remember correctly he was one of three of them sent off at Celtic Park, in the game that Peter Grant was sent off also.

     

    I think that may have been the ONLY TIME any Scottish ref, decided to punish him for his sneaky, dirty ways ?

     

    HH

     

    Me no like HIM !

  4. WHITEDOGHUNCH on 17TH MAY 2017 5:25 PM

     

     

    Cheers mate, i wonder why I couldn’t find it on my sports menu, cos I don’t get Sky Sports 4.

     

    With my BT BOX I only get Sky sports 1 & 2, and BT Sports of course, although maybe not for much longer ?

     

    HH

  5. Big Pierres 2 front teeth on

    It’s that time again bhoys when I’ve got the begging bowl out and looking for anyone with a spare for the final?

     

    For my old man who has once again been overlooked in the ballot despite going to all previous rounds apart from albion rovers away. Not even looking for one for myself as I don’t want to give the sfa any of my money but if anyone has one going and would like to make an old man very happy, please get in touch. Hail Hail

  6. I’m sitting here beaming with my 4 month old grandson.

     

    My sister sent me pictures of my birthday stone at Celtic Park.

     

    Praying that this is the last stone in my memory for a long long time.

     

    10 in a row is my next milestone.

  7. On BBC if you press the red button, it shows an ” Own Goal” from the lower Swiss league.

     

    It’s ” Quite Remarkable”…as the late David Coleman would often say.

     

    HH

  8. CLOGHER CELT on 17TH MAY 2017 8:32 AM

     

     

    Life in the 26 Counties is completely different to life in Glasgow. Having lived here for 20 years the kids have never seen an Orange Walk.

     

     

    *Although the last walk in Dublin was in 1937 the only remaining walk in the Republic takes place at Rossnowlagh, County Donegal where fifty lodges from Donegal, Cavan, Leitrim and Monaghan, took part.

     

     

    They don’t know what a Freemason is; they have no interest in anyone’s religion

     

     

    *hmm the Grand Lodge of Ireland in Dublin is the second most senior ludge in the world and the oldest in continuous existence and I actually saw one in Ballyshannon, saw one on the road fae Havana tae Varadero also. They’re everywhere.

     

     

    I’m acquainted with a west brit over here, he like myself will be 70 this year and at a church bbq he mentioned that religious discrimination was not something he was aware of while growing up but also knew what we faced in Scotland.

     

     

    He also had a family member who joined the trooser lifters and when I questioned why, he replied why not as they were just another service club. When I mentioned that he was now unable to receive the sacraments he looked at me as if I had 2 heids.

     

     

    The LOL ran this part of Canada for many years but their influence dissipated on the arrival of southern Europeans after WWII, they initially weren’t wanted, I wonder why, they were given menial jobs but their children grew up educated and have assumed prominent positions.

     

     

    The arrival of the LOL coincided with Daniel O’Connell’s successful Catholic Emancipation Act, orangemen arrived in their droves and not just from the black north as was once thought but mainly from what would become the republic.

     

     

    In fact the creature who established them over here originally came from Wexford, his grandfather led a yeomanry corps known as the “Black Mob” which was accused of committing atrocities against Catholic civilians before and after the outbreak of the Wexford Rebellion; he remains a hate-figure in local nationalist tradition.

     

     

    After the Irish LOLs were dissolved, he arrived in Upper Canada and within a year formed the Grand LOL of British North America.

     

     

    Ironically his family home in Wexford was later re-christened Mount Saint Benedict as the Benedictines founded a college there where many former politicians were educated including Sean MacBride the son of Major John MacBride and Maud Gonne and a former Chief of Staff of the IRA.

     

     

    It’s quite common to come across Canadians with what we would call traditional Irish Catholic names who are members of the United Church and also Catholics with what we label teuchter names, the latter are as a result of the Highland Clearances. The Maritimes are a prime example of this.

     

     

    Ireland is still a lovely place with many of the challenges of the UK. Materialism, secularism, addictions, crime, it’s all here but in a much smaller scale and without the added twist of bigotry and sectarianism.

     

     

    *much the same over here where TO is probably the “gay capital” of the world and all are tolerated, it’s come a long way since as I said after WWII, but the drugs and guns are scary now, a result of the new wave of immigration now that Europeans with their strong work ethic no longer come.

     

     

    With that I’m off for a walk along the lovely River Boyne. Thanks to the sacrifice of many, it’s a place that anyone can enjoy for free irrespective of their religion, colour, gender, sexuality etc.

     

     

    *actually stopped at it crossing from Galway tae Dublin over 20 year ago and relieved myself there, daft really but it felt good.

     

     

    BTW I’m not trying to be pedantic here but more pointing out how Ireland like Canada has come a long way and not stuck in the 17th century like the place I still call hame.

  9. !!Bada Bing!! on

    SP- Delph is injury prone and will be on 50k a week +, no better than what we have IMO

  10. !!BADA BING!!

     

     

    Yeah I was reading his Wiki, done his cruciate quite a while ago and has been bouncing around since then, good player on his day I would imagine. Doesn’t get a lot of goals though…

  11. Got Clyde on, I know, sounds like they have read Pauls header for the day.

     

     

    We can be record breakers if the huns take points of Aberdeen tonight, I enjoyed relaying that information to huns in work this morning.

  12. FOR A PEOPLE AND A CAUSE on

    Delph? No thanks

     

    And while I’m on I hope the Huns get walloped tonight

  13. VFR,

     

    Thanks, i knew he wasn’t THAT JJ, but t ihink i may have ‘known’ him before he was even JJ

     

    And it wasn’t even on here. ;-)

     

    Could be wrong though……it has been known :-))))

  14. Back in the good old days, we used to get the ragman going round the streets blowing his trumpet and shouting

     

    “Delph for rags.”

     

    I can send Peter some old woolens to help us make the fee.

  15. Big Jimmy

     

     

    re. Mark Walters. You might remember that after playing for the Scummies, Mark Walters ended up at Liverpool. I was at the game at Anfield, way back then, when Kenny Dalglish’s Blackburn played Liverpool, having to win the game to win the league. Somehow the team of us down for the game ended up in the main stand a few rows back from the track and, carrying a few Gwinesses as you do, I had to go for a mid-game pee. Now the strange thing was that to get to the toilets (at that time) you had to actually go down on to the track and then head up a tunnel (not THE tunnel!). I can still see Mark Walters’ face as he warmed up on the track and saw this big hairy guy heading for him, bedecked in a very obvious bright green Celtic scarf.

  16. Paul67 getting soft in his youth/old/middle-age (delete as appropriate)…

     

     

    I’ll put my faith in Thistle to take points off the dons on Sunday and facilitate our – as the Huns say – ‘wuruld recurd’.

     

     

    Tonight, I want the Huns shafted so viciously by the Sheep that they’ve got wool oozing out every orifice by the time the subway loyal have again dressed up as weatherbeaten blue seats and turned the Hate Pit into a mausoleum.

  17. Paranoid, moi!!!!

     

    Does anybody here REALLY think the hunbigots will actually try and win tonight, really!!!! They know fine well what we want to achieve, new record and all, and they will try and win. Come on guys, more chance to get butter up a porcupines arse with a hot needle.

     

     

    Billy Cotton used to say it, Wakey Wakey

     

     

     

    KINGLuBO

  18. What is the Stars on

    43 years ago today, UVF with British Army collusion set off 3 car bombs in Dublin killing over 30, there was also a murderous attack by the same gang in monaghan that day which claimed more lives.

     

    Irish government has once again called on the UK government to hand over files relating to the bombing which they still refuse to do.

  19. Jimmynotpaul on

    Sandman.

     

    I’m with you. No way I want anything other than a sheep victory tonight.

     

    Dodgy Del boy has alreadyready said he will rest players for the final, so surely Thistle can take a point off them at the weekend.

     

    However I expect Sevco to win tonight, Hayes is suspended and Dodgy Del boy has his players thinking that Sevco should finish above them.

  20. Good evening, friends.

     

     

    Guess who managed to snap up one of the additional cup final tickets that were released today. My Bhoy and I had bought tickets for all of the earlier rounds and were disappointed when we were originally only offered 1 for the final. Being the caring guy that I am I told him that he could have it and I’d take my chances nearer the time of the game. So thank you, Karma.

     

     

    Aberdeen’s next games are in Glasgow. Hoping that their visits result in a win, a draw and a battering. In that order.

  21. SANDMAN….

     

     

    Yer a bad man.

     

     

    Watching huns faces today was a joy, even had the the odd one say what about the records we have!

     

     

    Wtf. Yer only a four year old pup team.

     

     

    One was daft enough to take the bait and said five years, his mates walked away as I was pissing myself laughing.

  22. EMERALDBEE\O/ STILL PROUD TO BE AN INTERNET BAMPOT on 17TH MAY 2017 6:22 PM

     

    Big Jimmy

     

     

     

    re. Mark Walters. You might remember that after playing for the Scummies, Mark Walters ended up at Liverpool. I was at the game at Anfield, way back then, when Kenny Dalglish’s Blackburn played Liverpool, having to win the game to win the league. Somehow the team of us down for the game ended up in the main stand a few rows back from the track and, carrying a few Gwinesses as you do, I had to go for a mid-game pee. Now the strange thing was that to get to the toilets (at that time) you had to actually go down on to the track and then head up a tunnel (not THE tunnel!). I can still see Mark Walters’ face as he warmed up on the track and saw this big hairy guy heading for him, bedecked in a very obvious bright green Celtic scarf.

     

     

     

    …………….

     

    Feck the toilets..you should have Peed on him….okay I am joking !

     

    HH

  23. clogher celt on

    Tontine Tim,

     

     

    I hope you are well.

     

     

    Yep your point at the end is correct. Dublin has moved on and the 26 Counties have too. There is also significant changes happening in the Six Counties.

     

    There are a few small Orange Parades in Border Counties but they aren’t an issue. I understand that many rural Lodges in the North have concerns over the conduct of urban Lodges.

     

     

    Don’t forget the OO were established in 1795 amid concerns of a split in Protestantism prior to the Rising of 1798.

     

     

    Dublin was once critically important in the Empire. The more you investigate it’s links with Westminister in the past the more stunning 1916 and The War of Independence are. If there are Freemasons (no doubt there are) they just don’t come into life they way they do in Scotland.

     

     

    I was on a trip in Tullamore last year and we walked past an old Lodge with the Insignia still carved on the stonework. Nobody I was with knew what it was.

     

     

    They are probably active in Dublin in political/business circles or maybe in the odd border county or maybe city but I’ve never had any contact with a Freemason in my time here (cue dozens of folk with the opposite experience).

     

     

    I don’t know which part of the Boyne you relieved yourself in. It flows from Carbury in Co Kildare to Baltray in Louth. The Orangemen used to throw coins from the windows of the train as it travelled over the Boyne Viaduct at Drogheda.

     

     

    It’s 100 foot high. I know a man, who still runs 10ks and is in his 80s. An activity of his childhood was climbing along the Viaduct looking for pennies that had hit a railing and not made it from the train to the Boyne.

     

     

    With James Connolly’s execution on the 12th of May 1916, he died to give the people the right to become their birthright. (IMO).

     

     

    Here’s what James Connolly thought about it in 1913,

     

     

    July the 12th

     

     

    (1913)

     

     

    Forward, 12 July, 1913.

     

     

     

    “As this Saturday is the 12th of July, and as I am supposed to be writing about the North of Ireland in particular, it becomes imperative that I say something about this great and glorious festival.

     

     

    The Anniversary of the Battle of the Boyne is celebrated in Belfast by what is locally known as an Orange Walk. The brethren turn out and take possession of the principal streets of the city, and for the space of some hours they pass in processional order before the eyes of the citizens, bearing their banners, wearing their regalia, carrying symbols emblematic of the gates of Derry, and to the accompaniment of a great many bands.

     

     

    Viewing the procession as a mere ‘Teague’ (to use the name the brethren bestow on all of Catholic origin), I must confess that some parts of it are beautiful, some of it ludicrous, and some of it exceedingly disheartening.

     

     

    The regalia is often beautiful; I have seen representations of the Gates of Derry that were really a pleasure to view as pieces of workmanship; and similar representations erected as Orange arches across dingy side streets that, if we could forget their symbolism, we would admire as real works of art.

     

     

    The music (?) is a fearful and wonderful production, seemingly being based upon a desire to produce the maximum of sound in the minimum of space. Every Orange Lodge in the North of Ireland, and many from the South make it a point to walk, and as each Lodge desires to have a band without any regard to its numbers, the bands are often so near that even the most skilful manipulator cannot prevent a blending of sounds that can scarcely be called harmonious.

     

     

    I have stood on the sidewalk listening to a band, whose instruments were rendering:

     

     

    Jesus, lover of my soul,

     

    Let me to thy bosom fly.

     

     

    Whilst another one about twenty yards off was splitting the air with:

     

     

    Dolly’s Brae, O Dolly’s Brae,

     

    O, Dolly’s Brae no more;

     

    The song we sang was kick the Pope

     

    Right over Dolly’s Brae.

     

     

    But the discord of sound allied to the discord of sentiment implied in a longing to fly to the bosom of Jesus, and at the same time to kick the Pope, did not appear to strike anyone but myself.

     

     

    For that matter a sense of humour is not one of the strong points in an Orangeman’s nature. The dead walls of Belfast are decorated with a mixture of imprecations upon Fenians , and, the Pope, and invocations of the power and goodness of the Most High, interlarded with quotations from the New Testament. This produces some of the most incongruous results. What would the readers of Forward say to seeing written up on the side of a wall off one of the main streets, the attractive legend:

     

     

    God is Love,

     

    Hell Roast the Pope.

     

     

    Of course, the juxtaposition of such inscriptions on the walls appears absurd, and yet, the juxtaposition of sentiments as dissimilar is common enough in the minds of all of us, I suppose.

     

     

    To anyone really conversant with the facts bearing upon the relations of the religious in Ireland, and the part played by them in advancing or retarding the principles of civil and religious liberty, the whole celebration appears to be foolish enough.

     

     

    The belief sedulously cultivated by all the orators, lay and clerical, as well as by all the newspapers is, that the Defence of Derry and the Battle of the Boyne were great vindications of the principles of civil and religious liberty, which were menaced by the Catholics, and defended by the Protestants of all sects.

     

     

    The belief we acquire from a more clear study of history in Ireland is somewhat different. Let me tell it briefly. In the reign of James I, the English Government essayed to solve the Irish problem, which then, as now, was their chief trouble, by settling Ireland with planters from Scotland and England. To do this, two million acres were confiscated, i.e., stolen from the Irish owners. Froude, the historian, says:

     

     

    “Of these, a million and a half, bog-forest and mountain were restored to the Irish. The half a million of fertile acres were settled with families of Scottish and English Protestants.”

     

     

    A friendly speaker, recently describing these planters before a meeting of the Belfast Liberal Association, spoke of them as:

     

     

    “Hardy pioneers, born of a sturdy race, trained to adversity, when brought face to face with dangers of a new life in a hostile country, soon developed that steady, energetic, and powerful character which has made the name of Ulster respected all over the world.”

     

     

    And a writer in the seventeenth century, the son of one of the ministers who came over with the first plantation, Mr. Stewart, is quoted by Lecky in his History of England in the Eighteenth Century, as saying:

     

     

    “From Scotland came many, and from England not a few, yet all of them generally the scum of both nations, who from debt, or breaking the law or fleeing from justice, or seeking shelter, come hither, hoping to be without fear of man’s justice in a land where there was nothing, or but little as yet, of the fear of God … On all hands Atheism increased, and disregard of God, iniquity abounded, with contentious fighting, murder, adultery.”

     

     

    The reader can take his choice of these descriptions. Probably the truth is that each is a fairly accurate description of a section of the planters, and that neither is accurate as a picture of the whole.

     

     

    But while the Plantation succeeded from the point of view of the Government in placing in the heart of Ulster a body of people who, whatever their disaffection to that Government, were still bound by fears of their own safety to defend it against the natives, it did not bring either civil or religious liberty to the Presbyterian planters.

     

     

    The Episcopalians were in power, and all the forces of government were used by them against their fellow-Protestants. The planters were continually harassed to make them adjure their religion, fines were multiplied upon fines, and imprisonment upon imprisonment. In 1640, the Presbyterians of Antrim, Down, and Tyrone, in a petition to the English House of Commons, declared that:

     

     

    “Principally through the sway of the prelacy with their factions our souls are starved, our estates are undone, our families impoverished, and many lives among us cut off and destroyed … Our cruel taskmasters have made us who were once a people to become as it were no people, an astonishment to ourselves, the object of pittie and amazement to others.”

     

     

    What might have been the result of this cruel, systematic persecution of Protestants by Protestants we can only conjecture, since, in the following year, 1641, the great Irish rebellion compelled the persecuting and persecuted Protestants to join hands in defence of their common plunder against the common enemy – the original Irish owners.

     

     

    In all the demonstrations and meetings which take place in Ulster under Unionist Party auspices, all these persecutions are alluded to as if they had been the work of “Papists,” and even in the Presbyterian churches and conventions, the same distortion of the truth is continually practised.

     

     

    But they are told

     

     

    “all this persecution was ended when William of Orange, and our immortal forefathers overthrew the Pope and Popery at the Boyne. Then began the era of civil and religious liberty.”

     

     

    So runs the legend implicitly believed in in Ulster. Yet it is far, very far, from the truth. In 1686 certain continental powers joined together in a league, known in history as the league of Augsburg, for the purpose of curbing the arrogant power of France. These powers were impartially Protestant and Catholic, including the Emperor of Germany, the King of Spain, William, Prince of Orange, and the Pope. The latter had but a small army, but possessed a good treasury and great influence. A few years before a French army had marched upon Rome to avenge a slight insult offered to France, and His Holiness was more than anxious to curb the Catholic power that had dared to violate the centre of Catholicity. Hence his alliance with William, Prince of Orange.

     

     

    King James II, of England, being insecure upon his throne, sought alliance with the French monarch.

     

     

    When, therefore, the war took place in Ireland, King William fought, aided by the arms, men, and treasures of his allies in the League of Augsburg, and part of his expenses at the Battle of the Boyne was paid for by His Holiness, the Pope. Moreover, when news of King William’s victory reached Rome, a Te Deum was sung in celebration of his victory over the Irish adherents of King James and King Louis.

     

     

    Therefore, on Saturday the Orangemen of Ulster, led by King Carson, will be celebrating the same victory as the Pope celebrated 223 years ago.

     

     

    Nor did the victory at the Boyne mean Civil and Religious Liberty. The Catholic Parliament of King James, meeting in Dublin in 1689, had passed a law that all religions were equal, and that each clergyman should be supported by his own congregation only, and that no tithes should be levied upon any man for the support of a church to which he did not belong. But this sublime conception was far from being entertained by the Williamites who overthrew King James and superseded his Parliament. The Episcopalian Church was immediately re-established, and all other religions put under the ban of the law. I need not refer to the Penal Laws against Catholics, they are well enough known. But sufficient to point out that England and Wales have not yet attained to that degree of religious equality established by Acts XIII and XV of the Catholic Parliament of 1689, and that that date was the last in which Catholics and Protestants sat together in Parliament until the former compelled an Emancipation Act in 1829.

     

     

    For the Presbyterians the victory at the Boyne simply gave a freer hand to their Episcopalian persecutors. In 1704 Derry was rewarded for its heroic defence by being compelled to submit to a Test Act, which shut out of all offices in the Law, the Army, the Navy, the Customs and Excise, and Municipal employment, all who would not conform to the Episcopalian Church. The alderman and fourteen burgesses are said to have been disfranchised in the Maiden City by this iniquitous Act, which was also enforced all over Ireland. Thus, at one stroke, Presbyterians, Quakers, and all other dissenters were deprived of that which they had imagined they were fighting for at “Derry, Aughrim, and the Boyne.” Presbyterians were forbidden to be married by their own clergymen, the Ecclesiastical Courts had power to fine and imprison offenders, and to compel them to appear in the Parish Church, and make public confession of fornication, if so married. At Lisburn and Tullylish, Presbyterians were actually punished for being married by their own ministers. Some years later, in 1712, a number of Presbyterians were arrestcd for attempting to establish a Presbyterian meeting house in Belturbet.

     

     

    The marriage of a Presbyterian and an Episcopalian was declared illegal, and in fact, the ministers and congregations of the former church were treated as outlaws and rebels, to be fined, imprisoned, and harassed in every possible way. They had to pay tithes for the upkeep of the Episcopalian ministers, were fined for not going to the Episcopalian Church, and had to pay Church cess for buying sacramental bread, ringing the bell, and washing the surplices of the Episcopalian clergymen. All this, remember, in the generation immediately following the Battle of the Boyne.

     

     

    The reader should remember what is generally slurred over in narrating this part of Irish history, that when we are told that Ulster was planted by Scottish Presbyterians, it does not mean that the land was given to them. On the contrary, the vital fact was, and is, that the land was given to the English noblemen and to certain London companies of merchants who had lent money to the Crown, and that the Scottish planters were only introduced as tenants of these landlords. The condition of their tenancy virtually was that they should keep Ireland for the English Crown, and till the land of Ireland for the benefit of the English landlord.

     

     

    That is in essence the demand of the Unionist Party leaders upon their followers today. In the past, as the landlords were generally English and Episcopalian, they all, during the eighteenth century, continually inserted clauses in all their leases, forbidding the erection of Presbyterian meeting houses. As the uprise of democracy has contributed to make this impossible today in Ireland, the landlord and capitalist class now seek an alliance with these Protestants they persecuted for so long in order to prevent a union of the democracy of all religious faiths against their lords and masters.

     

     

    To accomplish this they seek insidiously to pervert history, and to inflame the spirit of religious fanaticism. The best cure I know of for that evil is a correct understanding of the events they so distort in their speeches and sermons. To this end I have ever striven to contribute my mite, and while I know that the sight of the thousands who, on July 12, will march to proclaim their allegiance to principles of which their order is a negation, will be somewhat disheartening. I also know that even amongst the Orange hosts, the light of truth is penetrating.

     

     

    In conclusion, the fundamental, historical facts to remember are that:

     

     

    The Irish Catholic was despoiled by force,

     

    The Irish Protestant toiler was despoiled by fraud,

     

    The spoliation of both continues today

     

    under more insidious but more effective forms,

     

     

    and the only hope lies in the latter combining with the former in overthrowing their common spoilers, and consenting to live in amity together in the common ownership of their common country – the country which the spirit of their ancestors or the devices of their rulers have made – the place of their origin, or the scene of their travail.

     

     

    I have always held, despite the fanatics on both sides, that the movements of Ireland for freedom could not and cannot be divorced from the world-wide upward movements of the world’s democracy. The Irish question is a part of the social question, the desire of the Irish people to control their own destinies is a part of the desire of the workers to forge political weapons for their own enfranchisement as a class.

     

     

    The Orange fanatic and the Capitalist-minded Home Ruler are alike in denying this truth; ere long, both of them will be but memories, while the army of those who believe in that truth will be marching and battling on its conquering way.”

     

     

    Sorry about the length of this. It’s ironic that Connolly was talking about ‘The Irish Protestant spoiler being despoiled by fraud’ given the recent and current events at Ibrokes.

  24. Sorry Paul 67

     

    I’m backing the Sheep to win 3-2 tonight and Christie to score at least 2, both at 20-1

  25. Scottish news tonight….In Aberdeen Council….where SNP had majority…..Tories and LABOUR UNITE to be the majority !

     

    Apparently those Labour Councillors have been suspended including the Labour Mayor for defying the Party rules ?

     

     

    This is just ONE of the reasons why Labour are feckin losing votes all over….Jeremy Corbyn must be tearing his hair oot ! …….Another “Inside” Betrayal.

     

     

    How can these Labour Councillors slag off the Tories every feckin day….and then UNITE with them, is just what really sickens me. It’s of course all to do with being in a brit “UNIONIST” State !

     

     

    These same Labour Councillors have also just betrayed the locals who voted for them 2 weeks ago. I can’t take any more of this fecked up Labour mob, they really are stopping me from voting for them at every feckin turn !

     

    HH

  26. Re Mark Walters

     

     

    I was at the game at CP when he was abused. However I was at the back of the Celtic end and consequently never saw the evidence of bananas either being thrown or having been thrown.

     

    I’m not saying that they weren’t thrown but could someone/anyone post a link to a video or a photograph of these events?

     

    The game was covered by TV and there were plenty of photographers present like any game against the Huns, so I take it that there should be plenty of pictures or film. I certainly remember TV showing the bananas thrown at Tynecastle by HMFC.

     

    Thanks in advance.

     

     

    HH

  27. BABASONICOS71 on

    I’d rather go the season unbeaten than win the title by a record margin.

     

    I’d rather win the treble than achieve either of the two.

     

    But really really really I want them all.

     

    And I reckon we’ll get them.

     

    In Brendan I trust.

     

     

    HH

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