20th century football rivalries won’t survive

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I remember the days (as a kid) when I’d get excited about Scotland-England games. At the time the countries were neck-and-neck in the number of wins each had over the other, we knew we’d punched well above our weight for a century. Since then, the inevitable verdict of demographics has taken its toll.

Now we know we’re a small nation, inconsequential to the football world, and we’ve even starved of developmental resources compared to the riches that ploughs into the English FA from Premier League TV deals each season.

The historical rivalry remains but I don’t feel it anymore and surely English fans care even less. They will have to dig deep to muster anything more than an interest in the three points available tonight, having long since moved onto Argentina and Germany for their rivalry. And Iceland, of course (forgive me).

Great sporting rivalries can endure for generations but that doesn’t mean they’ll last forever. Circumstances can change causing both sides to lose interest and find others to do battle with. None of our 20th century rivalries will survive. If we could bloody the nose of Barcelona for a third time in the 21st century later this month, our hit rate would place the Catalans in the crosshairs.  Bring it on.

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  1. TheLurkinTim on 12th November 2016 2:32 am

     

     

    Aw ffs…..there is no God…..that loves you….I admire yer faith……;-))

     

     

    FTSFA

     

     

    H.H.

     

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    Go to bed or I will.

  2. PETEC,

     

     

    Have you read the Book of Enoch…..oh that’s right…..it’s banned ffs

     

     

    FTSFA

     

     

    H.H.

  3. Gerryfaethebrig on

    Petec

     

     

    Probably not for the blog but stuff it

     

     

    Around March 2008 my wee mum was in a bad way, we had just found out that my (now) wife was up the duff with MissGFTB my good lady was scared to face my mother, my mother was over the moon,unfortunately a few months passed and when Miss GFTB was born her Gran had passed away, things happen, we live we learn……. I love Celtic, but Celtic means heehaw to me, Celtic will always be there but when my mother was struggling her words were “fit you better to go to chapel than parkhead, and Celtic don’t put food on the table” …….. We live in good times, Celtic winning titles and giving more to people need it………………. Maybe 30yrs ago we might have needed it

  4. Gerryfaethebrig on

    TheLurkinTim 2.37

     

     

    Ymir dam, right, apologies for kissing your post I was typing and filling my glass up

     

     

    Hail Hail

  5. Catch you later Gerry.

     

     

    Yer stuff is so Powerful, and oh so Important.

     

     

    When Peter denied Christ (3 Times) it was pivotal to Man being Man and Jesus being God.

     

     

    A Real Gift from the Almighty…..the Maestro

     

     

    God Bless Bro.

  6. Gerryfaethebrig on 12th November 2016 2:41 am

     

     

    Petec

     

     

    Probably not for the blog but stuff it

     

     

    Around March 2008 my wee mum was in a bad way, we had just found out that my (now) wife was up the duff with MissGFTB my good lady was scared to face my mother, my mother was over the moon,unfortunately a few months passed and when Miss GFTB was born her Gran had passed away, things happen, we live we learn……. I love Celtic, but Celtic means heehaw to me, Celtic will always be there but when my mother was struggling her words were “fit you better to go to chapel than parkhead, and Celtic don’t put food on the table” …….. We live in good times, Celtic winning titles and giving more to people need it………………. Maybe 30yrs ago we might have needed it

     

     

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    I appreciate you telling me that and you are so right.

  7. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    GERRYFAETHEBRIG on 12TH NOVEMBER 2016 1:58 AM

     

     

    Was watching the USA V Mexico game.

     

     

    Thought there would be some extra ” feeling ” in the game.

     

     

    There was.

     

    :-)

     

     

    MEX 2 TEX 1

  8. Gerryfaethebrig on

    Petec

     

     

    I tell no lies……my Sevconian wife calls our daughter “Mother Theresa” she is too much of a catholic at times……..she makes sure I don’t miss mass…….so maybe she did meet her Gran, she certainly bullies me the same way

  9. Gerryfaethebrig on

    Macjay…..

     

     

    I think you get bored in the old Australia and sometimes you should just ignore the baiting, although you like a bit of fishing yourself…….. , am afraid I don’t like politics but need to laugh when anybody even questions you being being a Celtic fan, even more so when a poster pitied the women in your life, whoever that poster was I can assure the poster he/she hasn’t a clue what they are posting about

  10. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    GERRYFAETHEBRIG on 12TH NOVEMBER 2016 3:18 AM

     

     

    Never bored , mate.

     

     

    I try to emphasise all inclusion , pal

     

    In religion , race , politics , colour, nationality.

     

    Recently , politics.

     

    It`s in part an effort to reassure non socialists that they also have a place as Celtic supporters .

     

    And of course , you cop it from the excluders .

  11. Foxy

     

    If your motivation for cancelling a trip to Florida(?) is because Trump has been elected, in the words of my dad, “You need your head looked.”

     

    Life is continuing today as much as it did last weekend.

     

    Folks are no different. The good, the bad and the stoned.

     

    There are no storm troopers on the street, apart from the professional agitators bent on anarchy, but they have been with us for a while.

     

    Everyone is as welcoming to strangers as they were before.

     

    Enjoy your trip to Vancouver. I have it on good authority that it’s a beautiful part of the world never mind Canada.

     

    Open your mind man and don’t judge us all on sound bites from the media, just as we Celtic fans take the Record, Sun and Mail articles on Sevco with a large dose of scepticism.

  12. Great sons of the ‘Brig

     

    John, the original Yogi, Hughes.

     

    Estadio.

     

    James Breen.

     

    John Oates, although originally from Wishaw

     

    And countless unnamed others who raised their kids to overcome prejudice and oppression to change the face of the social landscape in Central Scotland.

  13. Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan on

    Morning All from the warmth of my bed!

     

     

    By this time tomorrow, myself, HT, Minx, Angel Gabriel and others will all have endured the cold and the elements in and around Celtic Park in an attempt to raise funds for the homeless, 250 local families who need a helping hand, and various others who are supported by the Celtic Charity Foundation.

     

     

    If you feel like donating to the fundraising efforts then you can do so here.

     

     

    https://mydonate.bt.com/fundraisers/jamesmcginley2

     

     

    Separately, yesterday saw the passing of one L Cohen esquire who started life as a Canadian Jew of Polish extraction on his mammy’s side.

     

     

    I have always like Leonard’s songs but he had a great way of putting across other people’s words.

     

     

    His spoken version of Paul Simon’s The Sounds of Silence is poetry recitation at its best.

     

     

    Here, he explains and sings the story of Kevin Barry.

     

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG6D7-PAIKI

  14. Can someone enlighten me ?

     

    I don’t know the legal rights of shareholders at any football club, so may I ask this question should this scenario occur ?

     

    At Celtic’s agm this week, IF Celtic refuse to act on Res 12 do shareholders have possible LEGAL grounds to pursue Celtic, given that shareholders have evidence, and provided evidence of the SFA’s corruption in relation to granting oldco the licence, which in turn not only provided oldco with possibly £15 million that should have been Celtic’s, and as a direct result Celtic’s profits were reduced, meaning that shareholders were illegally denied a larger dividend ?

     

    Again big IF….if Celtic refused to act on the ” smoking gun” that they have been handed, and the shareholders could have a LEGAL argument ( dereliction of duty , perhaps) ? Is is right for me to say that the Celtic board PRIOR to the agm, SHOULDbe asking themselves right now ,

     

    ” If we refuse to act on Res 12, and the shareholders being very unhappy with our refusal, DO have possible LEGAL complaint against US, then in all likelihood given that the media would be all over any story that involves Celtic being pursued legally by its own shareholders, then in that eventuality the whole story in relation to Res 12 would become pu blic knowledge anyway ?

     

    In that event, do the shareholders ( possibly having legal argument) should Celtic reject any proposal to act after Wednesday, have the Celtic board ” over a barrel” , to some extent ?

     

    ( hopefully Celtic DO act, of course) ?

     

    Cheers if anyone can enlighten me on the possible above scenario ?

     

    HH

  15. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    THELURKINTIM on 12TH NOVEMBER 2016 4:15 AM

     

    MacJay,

     

     

     

    yer inclusions are? any Abo’s?

     

     

     

    FTSFA

     

     

     

    H.H.

     

     

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    At least one member of Sydney CSC

     

     

    Now called indigenous Australians.

  16. BIG JIMMY:

     

     

    Yes they do but it would mean that the minority shareholders would have to organise and do to the board what McCann and Dempsey did to the Kelly/White board. It would take a judges ruling to stop the major shareholders (a minority) from stopping what the majority of shareholders (but not with the majority of shares) from doing what is best in the public interest. (I might not have gotten the legal wording of that right but yes they can, but they won’t)

  17. KITALBA 6.22

     

    Cheers mate. As I stated in my post I hope that the Celtic board after diligent scrutiny Id. expect, survey all the evidence that those Bhoys have provided, and come to the ONLY possible conclusion ?

     

    I have the deepest admiration for those shareholders involved in bringing Res 12 to light.

     

    I’m aware that this is easy for me to say, but if I were a shareholder, I would have been as active as I possibly could.

     

    HH

  18. Gerryfaethebrig on

    Macjay…

     

     

    Again I don’t give a stuff about the politics and in my opinion some people like to think their views are more important the next person which to me nulifies their own…… Roll on next Friday when the blog can descend into fitba nonsense, at least I will be able to added my tuppence worth in

     

     

    GG – Unless I am missing the obvious James Breen ? There is loads of Breens, Johns, Stephens, and a few others Mark, Paul…… In fact if the apostoles surname was Breen they would have been from ML5 :-)

  19. VFR800@GIRFUY.CO.UK:

     

     

    It has been my experience in life that people will believe what they want to believe, regardless of fact or proof to the contrary.

     

     

    People, by natur,e will shy and shun anything that disturbs their own Nirvana.

  20. neganon:

     

     

    I know I shouldn’t… but since you first raised it on a public forum, I am curious, what has Paul67’s personal business have to do with you?

     

     

    Your griping about his personal business does you no favours; immho you should just get back to doing what you do best – griping – albeit, in doing so, extending the courtesy of privacy, devoid of malice and innuendo, to each and every poster who populates CQN.

  21. GERRYFAETHEBRIG 3.18.

     

    I WAS THAT POSTER that you referred to, to your mate MACJAY !

     

    Given that you couldn’t remember who that poster was that pitied any possible women in MACJAY’s life, is fine and I don’t have a problem with that, although it appears that you have obviously placed some ” importance” on my earlier post in relation to the above, I would have thought that you may have noted whom that poster was ?

     

    No matter.

     

    In your post at 3.18 to MACJAY you have taken my post from some 2 days ago completely out of context ?

     

    Given MACJAY’s views on Trump, and his view on how its okay to grope up ANY woman cos you just happen to be RICH, to which your mate MACJAY DEFENDED just as Trump himself has done, I very correctly pointed out that whether rich or poor, NO man or other female for that matter has any right whatsoever to grope ANY women just cos their feckin rich !

     

    Your mate (wherever he is ) ?, NOT ONLY dismissed Trumps view as being only ” locker room banter”, but then also posted that ” We would ALL do it” !

     

    I advised your mate, that being rich does not entitle you to do whatever you want to any woman, and that since he ( your mate) was obviously condoning Trumps behaviour, how would HE ( your mate) feel if it was his wife/daughter etc that was being groped by someone cos they were feckin rich ?

     

    If you read back, several others on here again correctly, slaughtered your mate for his endorsement of how Trump likes to behave around women, but you only singled out my post ? Again, that’s okay cos Im big enough and ugly enough to handle most things.

     

    I know for fact that the vast majority of women in my life would have been, and would presently be appalled to know that if I had a few quid extra, it would be absolutely fine for me to go around groping innocent, unsuspecting women ???????

     

    It was your mate who posted his ENDORSEMENT of Trumps views on how to treat women, and then has the stupidity to openly suggest that ALL us men do likewise ?

     

    Your mate does not speak for me !

     

    If you read further back the last few weeks, you will see that I have posted jokes/banter that rip the piss out of both make AND female sexism, and man’s ability to appear macho etc, but ALSO a woman’s ability to seriously humilate a man who thinks he’s some kind of feckin superstud and/or Gods gift to women !

     

    Classic example is my “Olympic Condom” Joke.

     

    Your mate was/is bang out of order, and many on here let him know as much.

  22. Make= male.

     

    I meant to add, but if your mate MACJAY is rich then maybe he should consider putting his views on how women should be treated by rich men to the test and go out and grope some innocent women, preferably when their husbands and/or boyfriends/ father’s, brothers, uncles etc etc are present ?

     

    He can always try and explain it away as ” locker room banter “, Im sure that would be accepted .. Not!

  23. Gerryfaethebrig on

    Big Jimmy….

     

     

    I have only lurked, read one or two posts and gave up, apologies if you thought I was referring to you but the part about “if” being a Celtic fan and “pitying” any woman I can relate to as I know, and many others know Macjay is a Celtic fan, even though briefly, I met his daughter in McChuills, just a pity his son was too busy enjoying the Glasgow party scene so again, I will only post on facts…. Don’t take it personally Jimmy, but take the politics out of the show and I will post on the facts that I know…….. Again every person can have their own views, it’s a sad day if others think their views are more important than the next……. My view, I like to deal with what I know……and I know heehaw about politics :-)

  24. Gerryfaethebrig on

    Jimmy 7.20

     

     

    Read your post again…… The part I said I couldn’t or even wanted to remember who the poster was actually meant it was of no importance to me, but now I know, in my opinion your wrong on both accounts, .but for you to take it to heart then put my name to it fair play…..it’s a blog move on, no slanging match here, I find it hard to type an argument

  25. Kitalba 6:57 and 7:02

     

    A couple of good posts there ( ie I liked them 0:-) !)

     

    Cheerio for now.

     

    JJ

  26. AULDHEID on 12TH NOVEMBER 2016 12:46 AM

     

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    Hands up!

     

    I haven’t the scoobiest of dooo’s what will be achieved if, Res:12 is successful ?

     

    I hope and, pray that yer Res12tance-Rebel-Band bring home the bacon.

     

    But – I’m guessing – what difference will be made today, from proving that a switchery-do took place to help out the huns 5 years ago ?

     

    Ah mean, they stole £140 million in unpaid tax etc as well as, 22 trophies from competition’s that Celtic supporters and, all other Scottish and European supporters paid guid money to see they’re clubs competing in.

     

    Thing is…..the horses have all bolted.

     

    The money as all been spent- pissed up against a wall at all the hun celebration parties.

     

    The trophies have all been paraded and, rammed up Timmy and others.

     

    The clubs have been relegated – some even folded!

     

    Thing is….I don’t believe for 1 minute that, when all the dogs in the street knew for years, 25 years of the David Murray era that, the fix was in and….the snowmen who run Cellic PLC were unaware ???

     

    When the honest mistakes were being played out by Mike McCurry etc,….John Reid said that Cellic had a dossier of evidence that would prove that the game was bent – where is it ?

     

    Ye see, Fergus McCann, John Reid, Brian Quinn etc…..all knew that game was bent and done hee-haw aboot it coz, Cellic supporters of the all seated stadium era were hooked by the sense of entrapment pursued and fueled by, Fergus McCann and David Murray who loved having a gun at supporters heads with they’re wee reminders that, if fans didny renew they’re season tickets then, they wouldn’t get into the Old Firm games.

     

    Only apathy from the huns being oot the league and, Cellic PLC bad management by they’re scant ambition in terms of the puppet-managers who contrived to put a product onto the pitch which eventually half emptied the stadium forcing the rudderless PLC to bring in Brendan and sell oot the park in time for the return of the Old Firm.

     

    Thing is, Cellic PLC will have viewed the backslapping that went on on here and elsewhere after the ‘statements’ were sent into an anti-Celtic newspaper that nobody reads and, street parties were held on here as the ego trips were embarked upon as though the bidders had brought down the anti-Celtic establishment ????

     

    Ye see, all that was achieved by these little pea-shooter sessions was that a page from an anti-Celtic newspaper could be ripped oot and, stuck onto some deluded folks fridge door ????

     

    Ah mean, the PLC must have read the reaction to this and thought, we’re living in the land of the blind and, only PLCer’s have an eyes.

     

    FMM.

     

    Michael Kelly was correct…..when McCann got the keys to the Cellic, the soul of a historic institution so loved by so many millions of folk from all walks of life world wide…..flew oot the windae!

     

    So, so sad.

     

    Guid luck tae yer rebel band.

     

    ….off-oot….

  27. Gerryfaethebrig on

    KevJ

     

     

    Hope all is good my unhappy Celtic mate (copyright Jimmy)…. Is mate the new Bud ?

     

     

    Ayr Utd knew about dodgy Dave the 1st back in the 80’s, no need to think nobody knows because it’s not in the Daily Record

  28. Good morning friends from a damp underfoot but bright overhead and milder than of late East Kilbride.

  29. 50 shades of green on

    Morning folks.

     

     

    Has Warbs been linked with the Scotland job yet?

     

     

    Dallas—– lol re the Busby nickname, never heard that one before.

  30. My friends in Celtic,

     

     

    The colour pink denotes love and compassion. The lion from the Rampant does not do pink.

     

     

    Fashion statements are for the beach.

     

     

    Hail, Hail.

     

     

    Ps : reading back , I see no trolls. I see Celtic supporters who have a different view from myself.

  31. So LEGALY the celtic shareholders have the Celtic board (who also are shareholders) over a barrel?

     

    Seriously? Really?

     

    So where are we going here with this? The resolution 12 guys couldent prove wrong doing by the SFA/SPFL as the SFA/SPFL more or less told them take us to court then if you think your right.

     

     

    They didn’t ok, so they turn the guns on CFC, IMO, this was the agenda from the start, I doubt if the none shareholder Celtic supporter would allow this to happen, and there we have it, Tim on Tim, right up the res12 and the CT ally.

     

    Level5 and the SMSM couldent have done a better job of derailing CFC if they tried, Iv said it before and I’ll say it again, I’m all for democracy and things being done right, a level playing field and all that, but at what? The expense of my club who have done nothing wrong?

     

    All to satisfy some socialists who want on the board, that’s the price my club have to pay for attention seekers.

     

    The ordinary Tim/Celtic supporter is a sleeping giant in this game these socialists are playing, I would them some sound advice, “don’t tug super man’s cape” but they won’t listen, only my opinion.

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