Spectre of Celtic and wincing at financial realities

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I winced slightly reading that Deliotte’s suggested Celtic were a ‘top 40’ club in terms of turnover.  The days we featured in their annual Top 20 report are long gone, lost in the raft of TV deals which flooded into England, France and elsewhere.

This is a problem for Celtic but at least we have a decent shot at Champions League income each year.  Others in Scottish football have been left to wither on the vine (phrase of the week), as the likes of AFC Bournemouth cherry-pick their talent.

Celtic need a solution to help them compete with their peer-group of European heavy-weights but the solution has to accommodate the other top Premiership clubs.  Dundee United have the ability to produce remarkable talent, if only they had the TV deal to allow them to retain it long enough to build a team.  The same could be said for Hibs, Hearts, Aberdeen, Motherwell, Inverness and Ross County.

Scottish football would benefit enormously by federating with a neighbour.

You would think after administration and liquidation those who look to Ibrox for their football fix would, to adopt a popular phrase around those parts, have suffered enough from financial ‘ambition’.  Not a bit of it, it seems.  Not when the spectre of “being battered” by Celtic looms like an enormous green and white tidal wave.

For the last 12 years of its existence, Dave King was one of the non-executive directors of Rangers, paid to ensure that financial controls and risk management [role of non-execs defined by government 2003 Higgs Report]were in place.  I am not being glib or shameless when I say he did a remarkable job.

With Newco appearing to be in some financial distress, King told the Daily Mail he opposes planned cutbacks: ‘If we cut the club back to a level that’s just enough to win the League One or the Championship then that’s fine. But the gap between ourselves and Celtic when we get to the Premiership will be obvious.

“But I don’t feel the club should respond by cutting the costs to the point of saying ‘we only have to do what is necessary to beat East Fife or whoever.

“Because if you do that Celtic will build up to 10-in-a-row and we could be so far behind them that even when we are back in the Premiership we are  not in a position to catch up.

“We cannot risk going to Celtic Park and being battered 6-0.”

Those trying to keep Newco Rangers afloat will not welcome suggestions that current shareholders don’t have the “appetite or willingness to invest”, a few months before they will ask fans to buy season tickets.

Learn your lesson, there is no shame in losing 6-0 to Celtic, this is sport, bad results can happen, but there is enormous shame in failing to live within your means.

I’m off to contemplate 10-in-a-row for a while. To hyphenate or not?
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  1. Delaneys Dunky on

    Masty

     

     

    Have known Sean for 30 years. He married a pal of mine. Absolute gentleman, the big man.

  2. Celtic manager Neil Lennon’s legal team is examining material that could support their phone hacking case against the News of the World.

     

     

    The Parkhead manager’s solicitors had earlier lodged a petition with the Court of Session in Edinburgh seeking to recover items from News Group Newspapers who published the now defunct Sunday tabloid.

     

     

    In it it was maintained that Mr Lennon’s voicemail messages were illegally intercepted by private investigator Glenn Mulcaire in 2003, who was later jailed.

     

     

    It also signaled Mr Lennon’s intention to start legal proceedings against News Group for a claim of damages over the phone hacking.

     

     

    It said: “The petitioner (Mr Lennon) intends to commence proceedings against the respondent in this court seeking damages for the illegal interception of his voicemail messages.”

     

     

     

    The Celtic manager’s senior counsel Alan Dewar QC told a judge today that previously an undertaking had been given and searches based on it have taken place.

     

     

    Mr Dewar said: “A degree of material has now been produced and it is being assessed.”

     

     

    The senior counsel told Lord Bannatyne during a brief court hearing that the parties were agreed that the matter should be continued to next month.

     

     

    Lawyers acting for the Celtic manager earlier brought the petition seeking an order under administration of justice legislation to recover documentation.

     

     

    Mr Lennon’s address was given as care of a Glasgow law firm to maintain his personal security and it was said he had previously been the victim of an assault and had received an explosive package by mail.

     

     

    It said Mr Lennon was “a famous professional football manager” and he had enjoyed a lengthy and successful career as a player with the Parkhead club and others before moving into management.

     

     

    It said there is and had been widespread media and public interest in his activities.

     

     

    News Group published the high circulation tabloids The Sun and the News of the World before the latter stopped publishing.

     

     

    “They regularly carried stories about the private lives of famous persons. They regularly carried stories about football, and in particular stories speculating about transfers of players between football clubs,” it was said in the petition.

     

     

    News Group was said to have invested “substantial sums in obtaining such stories”.

     

     

    in the petition it was said that Mr Lennon’s voicemail messages were illegally intercepted by Mulcaire in 2003.

     

     

    An entry in a notebook of Mulcaire showed Mr Lennon’s address and phone number as well as other information of a personal nature, it was said.

     

     

    It was said: “The petitioner does not meantime know the full extent of the interception of his messages.”

  3. masty is neil lennon and both of us are supporting wee oscar on

    livibhoy

     

     

    I was spoiled, it was every week for me….

  4. LiviBhoy - God bless wee Oscar on

    masty is neil lennon and both of us are supporting wee oscar

     

     

    Managed to convince a wee burd in our local to drive us through one night. She got the shock of her life when the band came on but loved it. She was a jambo!

     

    Livi was a long way away in them days. Public transport has improved vastly now.

     

     

    LB

  5. Don Ross was Rose’s brother. Ramie McCaroll from Earl St. whose uncles blew up the Celtic supporters bus at the back of the Celtic End????? Not too much in the SMM about that.

  6. Mr King’s latest tub thump.

     

     

    I wonder if any of the press will pick up on its pathology against us?

     

     

    Not sport, not furtherment, not social inspiration…

     

     

    … just stopping the Taigs racking up 10+ titles.

     

     

    This wee jaunt up the leagues has left them all with a mindset that these last few trophies haven’t counted, that it’s all been bounce games waiting on the main event getting back into town…

     

     

    And guess what? – Sod a model. They just want money spent on players.

     

     

    Let’s apply the pathology model ———-

     

     

    Can’t let them do that. Can we Gollum?

     

     

    No precious we can’t let’s them do that, nasty taigsees

     

     

    How do we stop them do that?

     

     

    We buy players precious.

     

     

    Any players?

     

     

    No! We buy better players!

     

     

    And how shall we do that?

     

     

    We shall offer players lots of money to play for us my love

     

     

    But how shall we find the monies Gollum?

     

     

    Sally will get us into the Champions leagues so she will precious

     

     

    But don’t we need to win the league to do that Gollum?

     

     

    Yes my love

     

     

    But how do we do that?

     

     

    We buy better players

     

     

    But how do we pay for these players

     

     

    By getting into the champions league precious

     

     

    But…

     

     

    Shut UP!!!!

     

     

    Sorry precious…

  7. NL: “Don’t expect anything in Jan. transfer window, hoping we will get 1 or 2 players in before next week. A very frustrating period.” (MH)

     

    GardenpathCSC ?

  8. Ramie McCarroll was the maddest Celtic Supporter the 70’s ever knew, and with his family in the UVF he grew his own mind and was arrested with me in Edinburgh one very fine and beautiful day for wearing a black berry and flaunting an Irish flag.

     

     

    Feck how we laughed when we got out of jail.

     

     

    A catholic St. Tams boy and a Prodie from VD.

  9. Half the under-20 side are out on loan.

     

     

    Good?

     

     

    Bound to get some game time.

     

     

    How many will come back and stake a claim at Celtic?

     

     

    Time will tell.

     

     

    HH!!

  10. How much interest has Peter Lawwell made on his money today in Glasgow, that Glasgow, where people are hungry for something to eat. Anything.

  11. Frank Ryan's Whiskey on

    CultsBhoy

     

     

     

     

    16:37 on

     

     

    24 January, 2014

     

     

     

     

    Kitalba

     

     

    CQN will inevitably resemble ‘Offi cial Celtic’ as it becomes the dominant Celtic blog. It’s what happens in all growing organisations..increasing conformity and growing intolerance of alternative views. Groupthink…

     

     

    ..so go start your own radical, reactionary blog. Just be clear what you are reacting against..

     

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    Absolute utter Codswallop. Many have commented on the blog becoming more Pravda like; including many lead articles reading like something taken directly from Celtic news. Many erudite entertaining posters decided to stop posting given the predominance of the “My Club, they don’t speak for me, how dare they” brigade.

     

     

    CQN is not the biggest Celtic blog but it is the one populated , seemingly, in the main by revisionists who are more concerned with ‘Celtics good name’ whatever the feck that is rather than the ongoing victimisation of sections of the Celtic support. In an almost surreal turn of events an institution founded to aid starving children argues against paying someone a ‘living wage’ and some on here then blame JF for pursuing a Marxist / uni leftie doctrine for rightly condemning the PLC’s refusal to improve the lot of some of it’s poorest employees.

     

    Is CQN rapidly becoming the Celtic cyberspace equivalent of the Daily mail??

  12. really interesting blog p67

     

     

    imho it’s one of those times it comes across you love Scottish fitba (and cellic of course).

     

    a love of Scottish football is one of the great loves in the cold dark universe

     

    trouble is, it’s suffering from an awful coincidence

     

    -the running of the spl for an incompetent club for many years

     

    – the bizarre funds available to epl

     

     

    I think we are in for a very difficult 5 -10 years and celtic is going to need us.

  13. eddieinkirkmichael on

    marspapa

     

     

    17:19 on

     

     

    First time I’ve seen the young bhoy myselt, definately got an eye for goal and looks skillful aswell. Worth a wee run out when/if he comes back. Saying that he’s probably playing at lower level than the SPFL, Scots championship is probably the equivilent up here.

  14. Kit

     

     

    would Rose Ross be Don,s sister?

     

    Gino,s chippy was YOUR chippy, OURS was Pepine,s ,his cousin.

     

     

    :)) Happy days.

  15. ....PFayr supports WeeOscar on

    Bada bing

     

     

    All that money that Lenny has …..you know , the funds to buy the £6 striker and Snadgrass at £4m+….. Must be burning a hole in his pocket

  16. Frank Ryan’s Whiskey :

     

     

    I’ve been posting on here for the best part of ten years; a fair few posters grew up with me, and I’ve been lucky to meet a fair few more; none of them have been less than fun, but for me of late, Paul is talking shite… am I allowed to make that evaluation?

     

     

    If you get a moment in your life – you ask Paul about me – he’ll you the whole story, but he’ll tell you I am.

     

     

    And after that if you are at all interested I will explain to you commercial sectarianism and how kids in the graves equate to pounds in the pockets of CELTIC.

  17. Eddie, thanks also for the video. The guy certainly has composure although he also has plenty of space and time to make decisions in that league.

     

    Hulk could move to Chelsea! This could be very entertaining. Hulk is an enigma: there are times when watching him play is like watching a car crash but other times he looks fabulous.

  18. ....PFayr supports WeeOscar on

    Tallybhoy

     

     

    Previous few I’d venture

     

     

    At least if they get game time …someone might like them and we will get some recompense by way of a transfer fee

  19. Kit, just checked back, you confirmed Rose was Don,s sister. Doh!

     

     

    I still see wee Johhny McCarroll at the games. That family were maddies right enough.

  20. GuyFawkesaforeverhero on

    setting free the bears

     

    16.37

     

     

    All fair comment.

     

     

    It seems clear that NFL believes a flame will ignite on the roads and miles from Crewe and beyond if the young players provide their own spark..

     

     

    Good luck to them all.

  21. Funny how all sevco shares transactions of 100K shares plus are sold at exactly 27p despite trading of smaller amounts of shares being traded at varying price during the day. This same scenario occurred the other day with excessive quantities of shares being traded at exactly the same price. Surely the stock market should be at least investigating the people behind these trades as it certainly looks as if they are trying to maintain the price of the shares otherwise with no buyers the price would drop through the floor

  22. !!bada bing!!

     

     

    17:19 on 24 January, 2014

     

     

    That does not make sense he is quoted as saying do not expect anything but hoping to get 1 or 2 in before next week…scratching my head!

     

     

    To be honest I don’t blame the Board to be honest, the Signings of our Strikers on the whole have been poor to say the least, Bangura being the prime example.

     

     

    Keep the Faith!

     

     

    Hail Hail!

  23. jonnybhoy:

     

     

    If you ever get the opportunity, remember me to him (and the Charing Cross Hotel)

     

    He was a good protestant mate to me when I just needed a mate.

  24. Pfayr

     

     

    Fancy meeting up in the Maharani in April when I will be next over?

     

     

    BMCUW should be there as well, although we will have to ensure that he gets to the station on time for the last train!

     

     

    HH!!

  25. EMIGRATION AND “COFFIN SHIPS”

     

     

     

     

     

    Between 1845 and 1855, nearly 2 million people emigrated from Ireland to America and Australia, and another 750,000 to Britain. The Poor Law Extension Act, which made landlords responsible for the maintenance of their own poor, induced some to clear their estates by paying for emigration of the poorer tenants. Although some landlords did so out of humanitarian motives, there were undoubtedly benefits to them, especially those who wanted to consolidate their land holdings or change from the cultivation of land to beef and dairy farming. Emigration soared from 75,000 in 1845 to 250,000 in 1851. This chaotic, panic-stricken and unregulated exodus was the largest single population movement of the 19th century.

     

     

    Thousands of emigrants died during the Atlantic crossing. There were 17,465 documented deaths in 1847 alone. “Coffin ships,” plying a speculative trade, were often little more than rotting hulks. Thousands more died at disembarkation centers. On August 4, 1847, The Toronto Globe reported on the arrival of emigrant ships: “The Virginius from Liverpool, with 496 passengers, had lost 158 by death, nearly one third of the whole, and she had 180 sick; above one half of the whole will never see their home in the New World. A medical officer at the quarantine station on Grosse Île off Quebec reported that “the few who were able to come on deck were ghastly, yellow-looking spectres, unshaven and hollow-cheeked…not more than 6 or 8 were really healthy and able to exert themselves.” The crew of the ship were all ill, and 7 had died. On the Erin’s Queen, 78 passengers had died and 104 were sick. On this ship the captain had to bribe the seamen with a sovereign for each body brought out from the hold. The dead sometimes had to be dragged out with boat hooks, since even their own relatives refused to touch them.” •

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