Ten years ago this morning we were celebrating what appeared to be the importance of a Momo Sylla goal two minutes from time to give Celtic a 3-1 first leg lead against FC Basel in the Champions League play-off round.
The previous season Celtic defeated a formidable sounding Ajax team at the same stage so when they were drawn against the Swiss team confidence was high. Two weeks later our record of poor results away from home in Europe’s top competition was further cemented as Basel gained an away goal advantage.
That failure worked out well for Martin O’Neill’s team who dropped to the Uefa Cup and progressed all the way to the Seville final but Neil Lennon will be aware that Helsingborgs carry no less a reputational threat to Celtic than Basel did a decade ago. Basel were not a better team than Celtic but a slow start to both games, and a missed penalty, cost us entry to the Champions League. We will need to be better prepared next week.
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Bada
I’ve got my own .co.uk domain under my own name for less than £10 for 2 years from 1&1 and just link it to my wordpress page
Dontbrattbakkinanger-Always a space for a testimonial from your good self.
greenjedi-It would need to be simple to use mate.
celtic *o* lennon-Thanks HH
Macjay @10.55,
Nothing to do with previous!
What you say about Poland is at best one-sided. No-one would claim that the Jews there were alaways treated perfectly, but it should be acknowledged that Poland had so many Jews because in the 14th cebtury it opened its doors to them when they were being persecuted in many other countries: it became “the home of the Jews” & remained so for 6 centuries, until the Nazi invasion.
As for the compliance of Polish Gentiles with the Nazi Holocaust, it’s a fact that more of them sacrificed their lives to save their Jewish compatriots than Gentiles of any other country. The Polish Resistance – & it alone – even had a section dedicated to helping the Jews (most of its members were murdered by the communists after the War).
Invercelt –
Thatcher was in power when the Strip Mill at Ravenscraig was shut down by Robert McGregor, who was appointed by her for that purpose.
The clsure of the Strip Mill sounded the death knell for Ravenscraig as a whole, even if it did take another few years to disappear altogether.
greenjedi
11:22 on
16 August, 2012
Bada
I’ve got my own .co.uk domain under my own name for less than £10 for 2 years from 1&1 and just link it to my wordpress page
Ditto,I have my own email add for business,tried BT but they were a nightmare,sounds like what I need ta.
Genocide in Methilhill.
As an 11 year old I was a milkbhoy for Kilrenny dairies.
The opportunity to earn was offered to me by my uncle Geordie.
My uncle Geordie was a milkman for Kilrenny dairies.
We would collect our milk at a drop off point next to Letham Glen in Leven,at 04.00 hrs.
We then delivered milk to the residents of Buckhaven,Denbeath,Methil ,Methilhill,Windygates, and stopped at Kennoway Burns.
Then it was back to Buckhaven for me to do my paper round for Marco Salomoni, around Denbeath and Buckhind.
There were some tough streets in both these rounds , but without doubt the one with the roughest reputation was Simon Crescent in Methilhill.
We had to collect the milk money in pairs incase we were attacked by The Apaches and their devil dugs, that resembled half bred coyotes.
My uncle Geordie would always warn us to be careful as we were in “Apache country”.
That is nearly 40 years ago now.
I visited Simon Crescent on business a few months ago, and I did not see one red Indian ,never mind an Apache.
What has happened to the long lost people of this Indigenous Methilhill tribe?
A cover up to rival the holocaust ,
Has taken place.
A67
Jungle Jim
10:28 on 16 August, 2012
Awe Naw
We will struggle in Europe for the same reason as the other SPL teams will find it nigh on impossible to win the SPL. Even if we bought a CH far superior to Charlie Mulgrew and a striker of the highest order,we would still struggle like hell against Barca, Real, Man City,Chelsea,etc
JJ
+++++
Aye, it’s like Motherwell bringing in Don Goodman and expecting to mount a challenge for the SPL. Or bringing in several players in order to consolidate a place in that ‘second tier’ only to find that others have done similar, leaving them in pretty much the same place as they were before, only it costs them more in wages now.
It’s a tough business, but I (and many others agree) do think we need to work on those areas Awe Naw identifies, which will not perhaps push us into even that second tier, but will maybe prevent us from these slips that are oh so costly on the coefficient and by extension a number of qualifying campaigns.
Which is really the big issue here. It’s not about speculate to accumulate this year’s CL Group Stage money.
Oh no siree, it’s speculate to accumulate this year’s CL group stage money, the points from another couple of qualifying wins, the bonus points for reaching the CL Groups, the additional points in the Group Stage and also those gained after that (if any). The kick back from those points for the next five years. Remaining seeded if and when we have to qualify. Getting into Pot Three. Getting into Pot Two.
It takes and average of about 12 to 15 points per season to get into pot two for the CL group draws. In 2002, we got 9, in 2003 another 21, in 2004 another 13; all before the country kick back was added (another 7 points in total). This, IMO, is an achievable target.
But only if we cut out the slack mistakes, the woeful finishing in Israel and the poor second half at same, the shocking start at home against Rapid, the selling of the jerseys in Utrecht, but worse than all of those was the poor showing up front against Sion in the home leg and the general apathy of some players in the second, seemingly content to go through on the assumption that Sion would be turfed out. That cost us a Pot Two seeding in the Europa League as we then assumed Sion’s [seeding], effectively putting us out of a competition we ultimately played rather well in.
That is what is at stake next week and the week after. Fixing those two positions would go a long way to helping us out in future years.
Tom McLaughlin
I did not say:you took a part in debate regarding hunger strikers or praising “utopias that caused millions of deaths. I said they were posts from last night.
As for the argument.
I quoted your full post.
Could you explaind if this is your statement, or direct reference to somebody elses statemet?
“I think you’ll find that more people have suffered and died in the name of religion than any other cause or doctrine in the history of humankind, during which Communism is a fairly recent phonomenon.”
celtic *o* lennon
As I sit in my Safe European Home it somehow seemed inappropriate to comment on something as trivial as music while the bhlog deals with much meatier subjects such as the merits of Communism, the fate of the Aboriginal folk, the legacy of Thatcher and the whereabouts of Owen Coyle’s gran.
WhiteRiotCSC
Helsingborgs ticket on Home Ticket Scheme delivered.
Jonny Clash,
nowt from Owens granny ….but
Mark hateley says looking for water under murray park wi’ two twigs is like a new divining
Hail Hail GS
Torontony
Glad to hear you get a result with the Retina- very quick recovery- I had to sit upright(even when sleeping) for 3 weeks after my Op- all is well now- my golf game is brilliant (and Elbows is a silky midfielder)
DBBIA
Just spent forever replying to your question about Tassy.
Lost in the ether.
Basically,individuals murder.
Govts. or governing authorities carry out genocide.
Tom I have stood up for your right to post without fear on here.
Disappointed that you choose to be a plonker with your response to Zbyszek . If you did it in Polish well that would be a different matter. Margaret does the smart erse much better than you can . Stick to what you are good at Tom.
I think that our Polish friend will have much closer to home views on the mixing of Christianity and communism. Personally I have more respect for people who have lived it than couch potatoes who have read it. Clash City Rockers Celtic punk rockers.
Zbyszek –
Of course that was my statement. I have never denied that and it was clear from my original post. All I am saying is that my comment in no way implies my support of Communism, as you alleged with your remarks about my supposed liking for Cuba.
“Gers boss Ally McCoist has binned his interest in Brazilian trialist Andre Moritz — after he refused to play in a bounce game.”
You can fool some of the people some of the time (bhuns), but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time ….
Thatcher never liked her. Communism never liked it.
Mistreatment of Aborigines: Rabbit Proof Fence good place to start.
Mistreatment of indigenous populations by great britain, probs need an encyclopedia there!
!!Bada Bing!!
11:12 on 16 August, 2012
Have you looked at Tumblr ?
It’s free (and easy)….
I am NL in NZ Tauranga –
Are you for real?
I made one comment in response to another poster to counter his claim. I wasn’t argumentative about it.
Zbyszek responded to that by implying that “from my previous posts” I would be better moving to Cuba. He then made some ridiculous points about my living in Australia.
I think I had a right to respond to those accusations in the way that I did.
Am I to pussyfoot around it because he is Polish?
Macjay
I thought about giving it a reply but won’t do it. Not becouse I ignore you but becouse don’t want to spend hours on telling the history.
Only few words.
Pogroms?
I read about one in the town that belonged to Russia before Poland won indepedence in 1918. If I’m not mistaken about the Jews were killed in the town far east from Warsaw.
I hope your next post about Poland and Jews will be more educational.
I hope you can answer the question why the Jews lived in Poland since nineth century, why not in France, not in Germany, just in Poland. Why late in 17th century about 70 percent of whole Jewish population lived in Poland? Up to 50 percent of whole Jewish population lived in Poland early in 20th century. That percentage decreased becouse many went to USA , like many Poles did.
As for IIWW.
Poland was the only country in the world where people were killed for any kind of help given to the Jew. That help could be the piece of bread. Man who did that could be killed on the place of “the crime”.
Poles like the Jews tried to sirvive.
Invercelt
Thanks
Jinkysredstar – Yes, I had to do the sit upright and leaning slightly left but only for a week; I think i was lucky in that i went to the hospital quickly during the detachment. That night they injected the gas ball thingy; two days later i had my first laser surgery and then a week later i had another 5 minuted os laser to tidy things up:)
slainte
tony
DBBIA/macjay1 – Just finished reading “English Passengers” by Matthew Kneale. A great book about the disappearance of the native Tasmanian aborigines, I would highly recommend it.
It suggests a number of reasons for their plight; western arrogance and sense of superiority, introduced diseases, the ‘calibre’ of immigrant to Van Diemens Land at the time, an inability and unwillingness to impose the law in a wild and frontier land, and private wars undertaken by settlers.
It’s a strange irony that the aborigine line still exists today due mostly to the sealers who kidnapped and raped aborigine women.
Invercelt
11:23 on
16 August, 2012
Macjay @10.55,
Nothing to do with previous!
What you say about Poland is at best one-sided. No-one would claim that the Jews there were alaways treated perfectly, but it should be acknowledged that Poland had so many Jews because in the 14th cebtury it opened its doors to them when they were being persecuted in many other countries: it became “the home of the Jews” & remained so for 6 centuries, until the Nazi invasion.
As for the compliance of Polish Gentiles with the Nazi Holocaust, it’s a fact that more of them sacrificed their lives to save their Jewish compatriots than Gentiles of any other country. The Polish Resistance – & it alone – even had a section dedicated to helping the Jews (most of its members were murdered by the communists after the War).
Sorry,mate.
I have to disagree.
Anti-Jewish pogroms were part of the furniture in much of Eastern Europe well before `40 and `41.
They didn`t need Hitler to motivate them.
I have heard of no,absolutely no,assistance being provided to the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto.
Now, that`s the middle of the capital city of Poland.
Don`t get me wrong.Nobody suffered more than the Poles in WW11,well,except the Jews.
Just don`t stick accusations of genocide on the good and decent people of Oz,and their predecessors.
People in glass houses…………
Paul67
Need a new article on the old Celtic asap, non footie debates are getting dicy on here
;-)
On Aussie , I lived there , met Mrs Tauranga . No more racist than anywhere else I have been and has the most diverse range of cultures and populations from around the globe than anywhere else I have lived. Mind you if I had read it in a book…. Had a couple of interesting drinks in redfern. Aboriginal Australians have a hard time adapting to the modern world and they have a very low tolerence to alcohol like the Inuits I saw in Christiana in Copenhagen. Not great for them but the answer is not for everyone else to go back a few thousand years. The balance will happen over time. My point to all is that it is grossly unfair to represent Aussie as rascist.
Millions of people have been killed by those motivated by political ideology. Millions of people have been killed by those motivated by religious ideology.
Debating which is worse is like arguing about whether it is worse to be stabbed or shot to death.
pigalle-That’s 2 vital ingredients,thanks.
Tickets for helsingborg game sorted for me and ma m8,in and out off ticket office in 10 mins, noticed quite a few bhoys claiming back vouchers for the kids season cards, well done Celtic and fairplay regards ticket price off £20
CQN – Communist Quick News ;)
dirtymac » fast forward to the G.O.D
Quality post Mate perhaps lost among the ma system is better than your system hysteria of the last few days.
Buying two players won’t propel Celtic into the upper reaches of European football.
By the way Awe Naw if yer lurking we beat Helsinki home and away I’ll take that kind of struggle any day of the week!!
Tschusssli..
its like a sea cucumbers convention in here this morning, and they dont appear to have an original thought between them. steal ideas and patter and twist it to suit themselves, very capitalist innit
Zbyszek
Post war Polish anti-semitism.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/Kielce.html
Tough blog the last couple of days!
This all started, I believe, by someone poting on Tuesday night –
Maggie Thatcher is deed!
So, there’s nae fitba news then?
Starry I hope your right , my pick as well, home and away. What happens in the CL proper will be the interesting bit. When we beat Helsingburg NL will get money to buy a CF.He will already know who he wants. Will all depend on the next two weeks. It could get interesting.
Starry
One out of four is poor Starry…lets not forget Basle either
PendantsareusCSC
Hail Hail
And what will this place be like when she does die?
Don’t answer that!
I am NL in NZ Tauranga
I see it as you do.
Every country has it`s racist ratbags.
They don`t necessarily characterise the country or it`s culture.
galbhoy75,
you mean well done the judge, Celtic supporter had previously tried to get something back and the club chased them. As soon as the judge stepped in with the legalities and bad press they were forced to back down. Even at that they are not refunding the full amout they cheated the supporters, and refuse to refund cash.