Blogging on the move right now but want to pass comment on one part of the statement by Aberdeen chairman, Stewart Milne. As he confirmed his club would place the fifth and decisive vote against Sevco being allowed access to the SPL next season he said:
“Reorganisation of the game is a priority and is something we have been actively involved in for a long time, but it is not something that should be rushed through just to deal specifically with one club.
“As we have indicated there are a number of other areas that we feel need to be addressed openly in the coming period if Scottish football fans are to feel that their views have been properly taken into account.”
Those well-paid executives who work for us and on Friday met to discuss a way to reorganise the league structure in the next couple of weeks should pay heed. As Mr Milne suggests, we are the game, not you.
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Ole Chas Green is a real stand up guy, much in the same mould as ole Craigy Whyte
Their joint combined twinned standing upness takes standing up to a whole new level.
Stand up for the Champions CSC
DBBIA
I hope you all have a great day. Congratulations to Mairi.
An interesting article in today’s Hootsmaun.
Rangers newco: 1964 bid to eject minnows could come back to haunt club
Rangers` future lies in the hands of clubs they once tried to oust
By CRAIG P STEWART
Published on Tuesday 26 June 2012 00:00
IRONY will be at the forefront of the minds of certain members of the Scottish Football League with long memories when they vote on the future of ‘The Rangers’.
Five clubs which will be involved in determining which division the Ibrox club will play in next season – Albion Rovers, Berwick Rangers, Brechin City, Stenhousemuir and Stranraer – may think back 48 years when the boot was on the other foot.
In 1964, this gang of five survived an attempt to oust them from senior football in a move led by Rangers.
The Glasgow giants wanted to reduce the number of clubs in the then top two divisions from 37 to 32 and proposed that the minnows should drop out.
Rangers proposed that the five clubs with the smallest gate receipts should be kicked out and were at the vanguard of moves to make it happen, including sending out correspondence to the other member clubs and deliberately excluding the targeted clubs.
Amid much legal wrangling, the smaller clubs – supported by Celtic and their chairman Robert Kelly – survived the move. SFL Operations Director David Thomson recalled: “The book that was launched to mark the centenary of the SFL in 1990 records what happened. The five clubs were in danger of being voted out. However, Stenhousemuir committee member Robert Turpey, who was also a lawyer, and strongly supported by the other clubs, was successful in raising an interim interdict on their behalf.”
The matter was eventually resolved out of court in November 1964 amid promises that the clubs would remain in the SFL and any new league that was formed. Thomson added: “That decision probably marks the start of a move to three professional leagues that started a decade later when the Premier League along with Divisions 1 and 2 were created.”
However, Rangers’ role in the wrangle caused a lot of anger at the time, especially in Stranraer. Present-day committee member Shaun Niven said: “I know that a lot of people in the town were unhappy with what had gone on. Stranraer are Scotland’s third oldest team as we were formed in 1870 after just Queen’s Park and Kilmarnock. We waited over 80 years to be admitted to the old-style Division Two and to be told after ten years that we were not wanted caused a lot of resentment. The clubs that had been targeted rallied round to win their case and remain in the SFL to this day.”
Looking at Rangers’ present predicament, Niven added: “This situation is another of the great ironies that football throws up. We could now determine whether Rangers get into the SFL and what division they come into after they tried to throw us out all those years ago.
“This whole situation is full of issues going full circle as it has probably accelerated the amalgamation of the SPL and the SFL 15 years after they were spilt apart by SPL sides led by Rangers and Celtic. Now one league body is seen as the way forward.”
Berwick, of course, took a measure of revenge on the park less than two years later when they defeated Rangers 1-0 in a Scottish Cup tie, and now the fate of the club that wanted to expel them and four others could sit in their collective hands.
If it comes to a vote at the SFL, Stranraer would have to balance the prospect of placing Rangers in the First Division for the good of the game overall against their own promotion to the Second Division, as they were the losing play-off side last month and weigh up the benefit of eight local derbies against Queen of the South and Ayr United to an overall package that benefits the SFL overall.
Niven added, “Nothing will be pre-judged based on what happened nearly 50 years ago. If we have to make a decision we will do that based on what is best for Stranraer FC and Scottish football overall.”
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/rangers-newco-1964-bid-to-eject-minnows-
could-come-back-to-haunt-club-1-2375352
Whats the phrase?
Revenge is a dish best served cold!
After 48 years it will be nicely chilled, go on you 5, you know you want to!!!
They are standing in the queue marked – Impending Extinction.
Their autopsy will be very interesting.
Polis / lawyers / courts will dine on their corpse.
Apt words from my PTFC pal ——-
” Imagine having to cheat in order to ensure that you were top dog in Scottish football “:.
Very ,very hot -way down south.
I don’t write in any forums or blogs but I just had to congratulate
James Forrest is Neil Lennon! We are ALL Neil Lennon! on 25 June, 2012 at 22:53 said:
for such an amazing piece of writing.
thank you all for all you have done.
HH
Question: The huns 1st team and youth team are out of season, the huns have been liquidated, and an organisation called Sevco have applied to join the league in their vacant slot.
However the womens SPL is in full swing, and a team called “Rangers” played on the weekend. Which club is this please? I understood “Rangers” were in liquidation, and as such have ceased to exist. If so, why is their women’s team still playing? Even if the players are not being paid, the Club has still to meet costs of participation (travel etc etc…) who is paying these – and if so, is this club operating while insolvent? (Serious questions – any guidance would be appreciated).
Just glad James Forrest is Neil Lennon! We are ALL Neil Lennon! did not refer to us all as No:12’s… :0)
Lee “Smarts” Wallace decides to play for the Newclub even though his old club still didn’t get their money from the Deidclub, I hope this put to rest any ideas some of us might have that this brainless, soulless idiot could ever don the Hoops!!
No ex-huns at Paradise..
LuxCelt
I was actually wondering about that mob as well. I take it they are affiliated like the various boy clubs and not actually run by the club.
I am getting into this death by a thousand cuts thing……every day seems to bring a new tale of woe for the troubled club.
And I believe there’s more to come.
If I had scripted their decline personally I couldn’t have done as fine a job as the way it’s all working out now.
pigalle
LuxCelt:
Mate, I’ve been told they have coaches coming down here to Australia for some ‘soccer’ camps.
In the name of Rangers FC too.
Interesting next couple of days for Mr Green… he’s going to be a busy man…
… the clock is ticking …
You’ve got the money Charles don’t you, it’s all about the money Chas, you know that don’t Chas, now don’t let us down Chas you were the one doing all the shouting weren’t you Chas….
Good morning all, nice to be back. Is Thems still hanging about. HH
Maybe check down the back of the sofa Mr Green? Try there yet? Oh, you have…
Daily ranger on a role today…
‘CELTIC will fancy their chances of getting through the third qualifying round of the Champions League.’
Probably because we don’t joint the draw until the Third Round…
LuxCelt
I’m unsure how accurate it is but I’ve heard that another club are now paying the costs at Murray Park for the youngsters, as funding has stopped as a consequence of liquidation.
That club will get first pick of future talent. As I said though I’m unsure just how accurate that info is.
One insolvency event, unfortuntate… but two? It’s deja vu all over again…
hamiltontim
It is Hearts and I have been told the same thing
Sannabhoy:
That lad you quote seems to have forgotten the Big Tax Case.
Aye, let them sue for damages, let them be brought out of admin and placed on sure footing again.
And then let us sit back and watch the big wrecking ball of HMRC’s BTC smash through their club, killing them AGAIN within a matter of months since their last death.
If Carlsberg did hunskelping, watching them die twice in a year, the 2nd time on foot of a temporary rise in their hope, would be the ultimate hunskelp.
Kittoch
Yep mate that’s what I’ve been told.
Chas, Chas where you going? Don’t walk away Chas, c’mon Chas don’t be like that now, it’s just business Chas, it’s Glasgow Chas..
And the double contracts.
I’ve developed a policy on cqn to not read any article by the msm as it invariably ends in loyal bawbaggery.
Keevins is such a rat its unbelievable,coming across sticking up for Lawwell at the same time having a dig at the support still with his the spl need huns mantra.
I already know the enemy so don’t need to read them in here,I lasted a couple of paragraphs with Hugh’s piece.
” Much debate here about the future of English football. Maybe they will finally realize that bulldogs are designed for Rugby not Football ”
Rai Radio’s London correspondent.
Apologies if this has been posted before:
Sevco FC have declined an invite to join the Conference League in England, as apparently they wont do Woking away.
“Criminal investigation is like a new signing..” Mark Hateley
sannabhoy: Did someone leave the door unlocked on the psychiatric ward again?
What on earth is it going to take to penetrate the incredible density of these guys brains (oops, sorry, maybe using the word brain is pushing it a bit)?
Not really worth trying to explain it again is it?
They might not do walking away…well not all of them,but they sure do irony..Lee Wallace says he’s staying….isn’t he one of those they haven’t quite paid for?
It’s incredibly funny when you think about it, the huns that I know keep going on and on about how ‘sh*t’ Sco
When’s payday Mr Green?
Oh, that is very soon… and a cash shortfall you say?
Maybe you could ask some friends, maybe in London, to help out?
Oh, you did but they aren’t interested you say?
No, it doesn’t sound good, and yes, I’d be worried too… maybe try and make some more friends?
Maybe abroad?
It is all a bit rushed Mr Green, isn’t it…
Keevins and the MSM backed the wrong horse and now they don’t know what to do, they need to sell papers and we don’t buy them. Once the Horribles stop buying due to the fact they have no team to follow where will they go then, down south like Spiers or switch to fabrics and fashion and peddle tripe to the ladies.
Maybe he can become an internet bampot/ blogger..
May I suggest a name for his site.
http://www.didn‘tseethatonecoming.com
It’s incredibly funny when you think about it, the huns that I know keep going on and on about how ‘sh*t’ Scottish football is.
If it is so sh*t how come the huns had to spend so many millions, most of it other people’s money, fraud (pending) etc… in a vain attempt to win it.?
If it’s so sh*t, why has your club gone bankrupt trying to be the best sh*t team in the country?
Of course, maybe they just like sh*t.
ernie lynch
All Keith “Journalist of the year” Jackson’s “exclusives” on Rangers came from RTC so no reason why he wouldn’t claim the 99% crap strapline either.
Unless of course Keith Jackson is RTC. Now wouldn’t that be fun.
Mort
A copy of the email sent to Dail Mail earlier this morning , no response as yet -surprise surprise.
I am writing to you regarding today’s front page headline and article in the Daily Mail , 1. The club formerly known as Rangers are in the process of liquidation and as you know will no longer exist when that process is complete .
2. As the club will no longer exist they cannot be ejected from the SPL , as they won’t be part of that league .
3. Despite this campaign by the Mainstream Media or Laptop loyal , Rangers will not continue as a club and until they get a) a licence
b) a league to play in
c) players
d) banking facilities
e) new name etc
then they do not officially exist . No matter how much you keep calling them Rangers , the club of that name are now gone , along with their history .
As you and the rest of what passes for a media in Scotland already know all of the above then it would be professional to report the FACTS and not what you would prefer to be the case .
Perhaps when this is all over we ( the rest of Scottish football ) might end up with an unbiased media and SFA / SPL where the rules are applied without fear or favour to all and not this pro Rangers ( now in liquidation ) situation which exists at the moment .
Yours in Scottish Football .
Perhaps if you have time you might respond to the points raised above.
Many thanks ,
Mort – We are all RTC