Blogging on the move right now but want to pass comment on one part of the statement by Aberdeen chairman, Stewart Milne. As he confirmed his club would place the fifth and decisive vote against Sevco being allowed access to the SPL next season he said:
“Reorganisation of the game is a priority and is something we have been actively involved in for a long time, but it is not something that should be rushed through just to deal specifically with one club.
“As we have indicated there are a number of other areas that we feel need to be addressed openly in the coming period if Scottish football fans are to feel that their views have been properly taken into account.”
Those well-paid executives who work for us and on Friday met to discuss a way to reorganise the league structure in the next couple of weeks should pay heed. As Mr Milne suggests, we are the game, not you.
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Sorry if this has been posted previously although I’m sure not many will have seen it.
http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2012/03/25/revealed-the-39-6m-in-unpaid-football-taxes-and-thats-only-part-of-it-250301/
Just goes to prove rangers are in a league of their own as they owe more than the accumulaive figure of these English clubs .
Quite a revealing statistic on the amount of clubs that have entered into Administration. Football authorities need to do more to stop this happening time and again.
I posted about a week agp regarding the way celtic would vote re newco.
The reaction was sensible – but with the casting vote now cast its time for celtic to be honest? Dont you think?
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I agree, the Hibs banner made me laugh. That is rivalry but not rivalry based on naked sectarianism or racism.
My point by highlighting it was that it goes some way to dispel this idea that we’re all in this together to defeat the dark lord.
We would be next if they had their way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoQBXgbVVT4&feature=relmfu
WHERE ARE THE LADS WHO STOOD WITH ME………
Hamilton
Sorry,pal
Off to work,but imho
Generalisation is the root of racism.
ITS OVER !!
Good evening all. Avid reader of CQN, RTC and AT for the truth that the MSM simply refuses to print.
Like most on here, I can’t quite believe that they are dead, deceased, gone etc etc (a la Monty Python) but yet they WILL be liquidated soon enough.
So why do I still have a nagging doubt at the back of my mind, which won’t quite disappear?
I just can’t quite buy the remarkable landslide of “No to Newco” that has emerged ONLY in the last 2 or 3 days mind. When something doesn’t fit for me or seems odd or plain daft, It leads me to ask “why”.
For example:
1 Why would Donkey nail his colours so firmly to the mast of a clearly holed and sinking ship (and that’s ignoring the EBTs etc for the moment) and leave himself so utterly isolated that he must surely resign after the vote goes against him on 4 July? No one is that stupid. He is not on a frolic of his own, but the mouthpiece of the SPL members. Therefore, could he possibly have been testing public opinion (ie would the fans tolerate it) on behalf of the clubs to see if the SPL could get away with voting a newco in?
2. The avalanche of NO to Newco – each new declaration of “No” shouted a little louder than the last – seems frankly a little too easy for my liking. Remember only a few weeks ago we were all very worried that we may not get the to magic No 5. Now it looks le only Killie may support Newco (and even that’s not certain). This smacks of a choreographed movement by the SPL. So why have they all folded so easily. Yes, the risk of losing ST renewals is there, but, what if the real agenda has always been to go as easily on Newco as they possibly can, ie a one season relegation, which Sky and the clubs’ banks can just about swallow, but at the same time get rid of the hated 11-1 voting structure and let the fans think they(the fans) have won the day.
3. Why has the AT under Lord Calloway not been asked to re- sit to reconsider its sanctions on RFC (IA) for crimes (admitted crimes mind!) which high court judges said were just short if march-fixing.
4. Why have no charges been brought by the SFA against RFC (IA) for taking a football dispute to the CoS ….which has just encouraged Hughie Green to threaten Oldco’s players (for they still belong to Oldco) with civil court action if they try and leave. Nice eh – esp when he still hasn’t paid a penny to Duff and Duffer for the assets, has no licence to play football anywhere (as in “in the world”) oh, and hasn’t yet bought the ground or training pitch. not yet got the ground.
5. Why are SFA and SPL bending over backwards for a Newco which can’t produce any accounts for one year, let alone 3, has apparently (per PMcG) sold less than 1,000 STs and seems to have run out of money already, let alone produce a credible funding plan to show it can finance itself for the whole of the coming season. Oh, and can’t confirm who its investors are, so cant possibly pass a Fit and Proper Test.
Can it all poss be because Walter is waiting till all the dirty work is done by Charlie before he steps in to take over when Newco has been safely born into Div 1.
We won’t have won this war for the future of Scottish football if Newco isn’t forced to start in Div 3 and instead, the whole of Scottish Football is restructured to accommodate one team and one team only.
There you have it, my nagging doubt. No wonder I sleep with the lights on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LKk9op-RAA
THE MERRY PLOUGHBOY
Jobby – Oh
Jobby – Oh
To the failed Rangers brand…
hamiltontim on 25 June, 2012 at 23:53 said:
The difference is no one got rid of rangers. rangers got rid of rangers (with the help of MSM). The main contribution from other clubs has been saying NO to NEWCO in the SPL and that’s good enough for me. I raise my hat to them! :)
We do though, have to be prepared for the land grab that’s being proposed. The next couple of seasons are going to be interesting and decades worth of NEWCO humour have been put ion the bank and are earning interest at a rate Mervyn King would be apoplectic with rage at!!!! :)))
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macjay
Racism can have its roots in generalisation but not all generalisation is racism.
Uly
You may just have s(p)oiled that song forever more.
for the spl to thrive it now needs:
a fair share of t.v/ sponsorship income to improve competition/ income for all clubs
a larger league to stop the 4 x per season meeting which bore the life out of fans and reduce competition i.e. having to play celtic 4 x per season = 12 points (madness)
a different point structure: 3 points for win, 2 for score draw, 1 for no score draw, 0 for loss to promote attacking football, to increase interest and reduce negative tactics and to reward attacking football teams with points , should make league challenge tighter.
euro and relegation play-offs, generate interest at the end of season for several clubs and fans, promoting competition and interest while generating money
50/50 split of away tickets income for clubs who have 20000 fans at game to promote better attendances at games.
all clubs have to ensure a 50/50 split of profit from euro participation is put into pot for end of season distibution to all top flight clubs, again to share wealth within the league, to improve competition and to help increase scottish euro co-effic, while rewarding team that participate.
income to wage ratio to ensure all clubs live within their means
max squad size of 22 senior players i.e. 22 years olds + to ensure that youth gets its chance and clubs cant just buy their way to titles.
co-dependency means co-operation and thats what we all need to understand. a competitive league with fair distibution of wealth between clubs and a more competitive competition = greater interest from fans and t.v alike, which again increases income potential for all clubs only when this happens with the slp find its true value and only then will the spl be in a position thrive with or without rangers.
should sevco gain entry to 3rd division the income generated from their participation will filter throught the whole league system. in the event that they return to the spl,spl clubs can look forward to an enhance t.v contracts and sponsorship without any issues of integrety or scottish football being forever tainted. in addition, the newco will be entering into a league they have earned the right to play in and the landscape will ensure less risky business practices and t.v money comes second to football
just a few of my thoughts
hail hail
imagine for a moment that it emerged that Man Utd had enjoyed the most successful period in their history, 1992 – 2011, as a result of dual contracts. Obviously this is not true, but stay with me.
Would the FA dither in carrying out an investigation?
Would the EPL adopt a ‘blind-eye’ policy?
Would the english media try to blackmail all the other clubs into not adopting sanctions against them?
Would english football accept the ‘too big to fail’ arguement?
Would SKY withdraw/change the terms of the TV contract in the event of Man Utd being punished?
The answer is ‘no’ to all of the above.
Only in Scotland do we think that supporters forcing clubs to do right is commendable. The fact is that, on discovering the misbehaviour at the Govan floater, the football authorities should have taken decisive action.
Irrespective, we are on the threshold of something better without them. Don’t let them back in.
I think you need players to form a team to compete…even in Div 3?
Jobo Baldie on 25 June, 2012 at 20:24 said:
kevin hughes – a new ‘open and transparent’ monicker? Oh and by the way, did I spot you sneaking our early on Saturday evening? Was the gig that bad? ;-)
share on F’book or Twitter
wrong person jobo sorry although anagram wise yes i was taking the p
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If you think Mervyn is apoplectic you should see his brother Dave :-))
Night all…
Must be easier for Celtic to escape SPL on their own?
hamiltontim on 25 June, 2012 at 23:16 said:
Unless it’s shown on an internet stream the answer is No. He has already declared he doesn’t support Celtic financially, only intellectually!
macjay1 for Neil Lennon on 25 June, 2012 at 23:55 said:
Hamilton
Sorry,pal
Off to work,but imho
Generalisation is the root of racism.
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that’s what they all say! ;))
Houl yer wheest on 26 June, 2012 at 00:11 said:
Well it seems that even when the fans of other clubs can work towards a common goal there are STILL Celtic fans who’s primary focus is on slagging people within their OWN SUPPORT … nice one.
I hope you support Celtic financially. I hope you’ve been lucky enough that you can afford to all the time you’d like.
Because, judging by that sarcastic nonsense you just spouted you’ve never done ANYTHING “intellectually” in your life.
Tonight of all nights, that post is a piece of sheer arrogant spiteful nonsense.
lots of celtic fans have slagged the board and hte supporters for their perceived inactivity. today they are proven to be right in their ‘say nothing and keep saying it’ approach. The MSM can’t blame Celtic for the demise of nuco, they should be blaming Murray et al, don’t hold your breath!
Good Morning from the beautiful City of Granada. Marvelous place! Lovely people, great bars. Got absolutely hammered yesterday.
Paul should’ve had his match reports updates on today. Went out hearing ICT had said NO to be followed up wlth St J, coming home to the Sheep knock out blow.
Momentous times. Walked around Granada cathedral with the audio guide in my ear, but all I could hear was the Celtic Symphony in my head from Easter Road. By the way, that was the best everday oot. Better than Seville. The result didn’t even matter.
TET Are you about? Celebration time i Cortes de Baza on Friday! Jairo’s being requested pit stop!
Hail hail Amigos!
IMO thre is only one route left open to clean up Scottish football, clear out the sfa replaces by non football people, wsministration of rules should never again be discretionary.
Disolve the failed spl and sfl, Single league organisation controlled by newly cleansed sfa.
Auldheids ref idea, seperate body who are hired but reviewed by sfa, with option to go elsewhere if unsatisfied.
We’re a long way away from a fair game, and we should’nt stop till its done.
It was strange and it was organic. Around ten minutes before half-time and it just spread, from a few in front and centre, to the whole stand. I thought there must be some news, some breaking news story from a radio, or a blog thread. But no, not even, Just a belief and a chant.
And in the second back row, in the corner, this was my freezing cold JFK moment, the hour I first believed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktOZTTeo_Z0
‘crushed nuts?’ ‘Naw, Layringitis!’ on 26 June, 2012 at 00:35 said:
”lots of celtic fans have slagged the board and hte supporters for their perceived inactivity. today they are proven to be right in their ‘say nothing and keep saying it’ approach.”
Only if you assume that the silence of the Celtic board influenced the other clubs.
I suspect the other clubs were influenced by the actions of their own fans, not by anything the Celtic board have done.
In which case the outcome has been a lucky break for the Celtic board rather than a vindication of their approach.
Mo chara
My old PP used to say if you don’t subscribe ie pay the weekly stipend you not a member of the club. By all means visit when you choose (as a visitor). Without the financial support there wouldn’t be a venue (church) to visit.
You say “Because, judging by that sarcastic nonsense you just spouted you’ve never done ANYTHING “intellectually” in your life.”
You don’t know me but believe me I don’t boast about my intellectual achievements and I doubt if you’ll ever match them. If I had stated repeatedly, as you have done, why I don’t go to Celtic Park as you have done then I would keep quiet. As Mark Twain said
“It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.”
Ps Define “spout”
PPs Where I live when anyone addresses me as “mate” I immediately recognise where they have come from.
So….I see the word on FollowFollow is that Ip*x is to be sold for development..
Hmmm…..With all this religion talk on here today,from the Emperor Constantine
to Sacred Iconography,to the Glorious Protestant Reformation….
Well..It just got me to thinkin’….
I suppose…through the lens of history
one could view the Early Presbyterians as the Taliban of the Protestant Tradition….
It would surely provide some solace for the Unwashed Legions of Sevco 5088,if
following scenario was to transpire…
Cast your minds back to Wee Ecks rather
curious diplomatic tour of the Gulf States
last October,where he hob-nobbed with the Emirs of Qatar and Dubai……
“Scotland and Qatar have a share history and heritage”, beamed our heavily perspiring Dear Leader….
Regardless,the Emirs made it clear that they had no interest investing in Scottish Football,nevermind The Jam Tarts..
And Yet……….
It is well known that the Emirs of Qatar and Dubai are engaged in a friendly competition , building MegaMosques across Western Europe.
The Emir of Qatar is currently building a multi-million pound MegaMosque in Southern Sicily.
Not to be outdone,the Emir of Dubai has advanced plans for converting Barcelonas most illustrious Bull-Fighting Arena,’ The
Monumental’,into the third biggest mosque in the World(after those in Mecca and Medina),with a capacity for 40,000.
However,he is facing some delays over local planning regulations.
This would make the Asbestos-Blighted Ip*xDome,with its Marble Staircase,a most tempting target for a similar project
As has been discussed elsewhere,the locale is considered ‘blighted’ for the purposes of development for traditional housing..
Could yet another Superstore in this corner of Glasgow be justified,on financial grounds,given that a proportion of the local population would likely boycott any such outlet for a sustained period of time.
However,if developed as a vibrant cultural and religious zone,it would generate goodwill,and possibly lead to further inward investment from the opulent Gulf States..
With excellent parking,and plenty of free land available for development,we could have The Ali McCoist Madrassa,The Ian
Durrant Museum of Art & Culture,and the George Galloway Global Center For Inter
Faith Dialogue…for starters.
Edmiston Drive…? Well that just has to be renamed…”Avenue of Indefatigability”
In keeping with current environmental hysteria,some consideration might be given to the Carbon Footprint of such an extensive development , with Green Energy sourced where possible…
A couple of High-Tension Lines laid out to wherever Ol’ Bill Struth is “spinnin in his grave”, will surely generate enough Watts to keep the lights on…Till the End of Time
Throw in a Local Shariah Compliance Zone,to keep the Jaikies of Govan Cross in some kinda order..and We’re Cookin’ Wi Gas !
Labour’s Ken Livingston promised to make London a ‘Hub of Islam’,if he was victorious in the Mayoral Elections..
Could Wee ‘Eck resist cocking-a-snook at Red Ken’s Scottish Labour pals ?
No wonder Wee ‘Eck has been ever so quiet lately..
And what of Sevco(2012/13)?…Well they will just have to learn to live within their means…and seek an urgent ground sharing arrangement with..Airdrie Utd(2002)
houl yer…,
“You don’t know me but believe me I don’t boast about my intellectual achievements and I doubt if you’ll ever match them.”
potty trained already :oD)))
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 26 June, 2012 at 00:51 said:
getting there
Ernie
ST sales established positions. Celtic have nothing to vote on until an election takes place. Integrity or Money ? I think the SPL fans are coming down on our side. We can only hunt them after they screwed up and through UEFA. Who are about to start looking at the ramifications. I think everyone is glad that their conceited attempts have been thwarted without raising social tensions and thankfully the likes of Paul67 won the propaganda war. Nothing lucky about it at all from how I see it.
HH
And where I come from people don’t bang on about where they come from as if it means more than it does.
Your PP; does it mean something? Maybe my intellect isn’t up to figuring out what that means, but if you’ve got something on your mind state it clearly.
I couldn’t give a toss about your “intellectual achievements.” Tonight, on a night when this family is as united as it’s ever been, you decided to target a personal insult at me, for reasons which only you understand.
And that makes YOU a halfwit where I come from … and everywhere else besides.
Being part of this Family is about more than just putting money in the till. The attitude that you are only a “true fan” if you do, that you are somehow lesser if you don’t is idiotic, offensive and shameful. Look at the guys who support the club from afar, who get to a game once in a blue moon.
As to my “repeated” reasons for not attending Celtic Park, I will go over them one at a time for you, in case you missed it – as evidently you did.
1) For many years I lacked the money to buy a season ticket.
2) For many years I had a job who’s shifts made buying one an extravagance I could not afford.
3) For one season I did not attend as I made a personal decision not to back the “strategy” that had seen Rangers win leagues we should have won.
The second of these reasons, I have in common with many others in this day and age when we can’t always choose how, when or where we work.
The third was a decision I made without worrying what you or others thought. I had to face the guy in the mirror … the only person I EVER have to satisfy … and he was perfectly fine with it.
The first I don’t like talking about and won’t discuss further except to say that I know other Celtic fans who lack the finances to go to matches … and your comments are an affront and an offence to THEM as well as me.
So congratulations on spoiling my very, very positive mood tonight.
Ulysses @ 23.58
Toley O ? :)
Teuchter
hamiltontim on 26 June, 2012 at 00:05 said:
There is ,of course, a place for generalisation.
When used in relation to people or groups,surely care needs to be taken.
‘crushed nuts?’ ‘Naw, Layringitis!’ on 26 June, 2012 at 00:14 said:
macjay1 for Neil Lennon on 25 June, 2012 at 23:55 said:
Hamilton
Sorry,pal
Off to work,but imho
Generalisation is the root of racism.
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that’s what they all say! ;))
Damn!
I thought I`d coined a phrase.
:-))))
James Forrest
Take a minute.
Smile.
And remember where we are.
We might just have mended our league (thanks rangers).
Maybe in five years time McColl will make them strong again.
But things are open now, the MSM are dying, the Murray cartel will be in the pokey.
It’s all good!
God i feckin’ hate reading posts like Houl yer weesht’s dig at JF on here. Sickens me.
Should the good Tims who go to the trouble of collecting old kit to distribute among kids around the world’s poorer countries tell these kids they won’t be real supporters until they start buying season books?
BroonSauce
Standing up for Tims everywhere, regardless of their financial input to the club.
Just when I need cheering up haha ….
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/rangers-newco-1964-bid-to-eject-minnows-could-come-back-to-haunt-club-1-2375352?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
History has a long memory.
Oh what fun this close season has been ….