Barca will be no better prepared, how the news works

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I don’t subscribe to the ‘Would rather face them with Messi’ world view.  I’ve seen Lionel Messi a couple of times, it’s a bit like standing atop the Eiffel Tower, a breath-taking experience, but I don’t need to visit Paris every month to reinforce the view.  Tomorrow will be an almighty challenge against one of the sport’s all-time great teams.  Having pushed Barcelona to their absolute limits twice last season, we have no right to expect a second consecutive New Firm victory, but this is a home game at Celtic Park, we hope for a win.

The omission of Joe Ledley is a worry.  Celtic need mobility and positional awareness in all positions tomorrow, Joe brings both elements to the party, how Neil Lennon compensates for his enforced absence in central midfield will be a key decision.

I also don’t subscribe to the view that, unlike a year ago, Barca will know what to expect this time.  Celtic’s 2-1 victory last season came after they took Barca to added time at the Camp Nou before Barca got their winner.  Barcelona knew exactly what to expect, they just didn’t know what to do about it.  I see no reason why they will be any better tutored this time.  Unless they’ve figured out a way of making wee guys jump higher than big guys.

We are fast, we’re tall, we defend when necessary and we run all game.  Unless Barca decide to play for a point and defend deep, which they won’t, they will play exactly as they did last season.

On seeing an X Factor item on the news I complained, “That’s not news”, but I was challenged, “If that’s not news, what makes football news?”  Sporting and entertainment events are news if those who produce the news determine it to be so, which places considerable authority on news editors.

Charlotte Fakes revelations have shown us how news professionals, keen to distract attention from a disaster zone of a club, tried to create negative ‘news’ stories concerning Celtic.

Three years ago the Green Brigade displayed a banner at Celtic Park which went largely uncommented upon for several days.  Four days after the event, the banner became a nationwide news story, TV news reported it and it made a Radio 5 Live morning discussion programme.

The delay in the item becoming ‘news’ was the most important part of the story.  It wasn’t news until the news editors had been convinced otherwise.  The damage to Celtic’s reputation was considerable.

Today news editors who ran that story three years ago have an interesting dilemma.  Do they run a story about an alarming message being displayed at a football ground, or without being lobbied, is that not a story?

Celtic don’t spend money trying to get negative stories about other clubs in the newspapers, but this is surely not exclusively the way the ‘news’ industry works.

We shouldn’t have to wait on a whistle-blower to shine a light on what happened three years ago, journalists know when they have been lobbied, and that’s the real story, which is not dependent on unfathomable leaks.
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  1. SNP – On the controversial subject of education by religion, 64.4 per cent thought that separate Catholic schools should be phased out.

  2. BIG-CUP-WINNERS

     

     

    21:56 on 30 September, 2013

     

     

    sorry – that last post of mine was in response to you

  3. TBJ Praying for Oscar Knox on

    Just phoned a fellow tim and cqnr… his phone went onto voicemail… im in shock here

     

     

    TBJ demands to know how many CQNrs are on the Orange Network :(

  4. zimmerman - Conspiracy Theorist : Nothing more than a derogatory title to dismiss a critical thinker) on

    TheOriginalSadiesBhoy

     

     

    No problem concerning the Jim Delahunt post,

     

     

    i was posting while walking a very excitable labrador (hence the erratic post with letters and words missing.)

     

     

    Also the reason for my off topic post about ten mins before about picking up dog shit etc.

     

     

    Just a case of crossed wires bud.

     

     

    HH.

  5. setting free the bears supports celtic’s best fighter- wee oscar knox

     

     

    22:01 on 30 September, 2013CelticbhoyIt would be wonderful if we could get UEFA 14 instead. I hear it’s finale is set in Lisbon.

     

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    I remember the ’67 version l think it was called Subbuteo.

  6. STFB @ 21:05,

     

     

    “What I stated was that “post-Seville” we rated CL last 16 as the next level to surpassing a UEFA final…

     

     

    Yes i thought that would be the case.

     

     

    I knew the blog started after Seville but wasn’t sure / didn’t think it was immediate.

     

     

    My main frame of reference was the aul golf, I remember it being arranged (and was trying to attend).

     

     

    Now I thought it was 2006 but apparently the tenth anniversary is next year.

     

     

    Now in my own mind i began to post in the second year of CQN when you posted on Seville, my thought was I’ve got the wrong year.

     

     

    Apparently CQN started in July 2004 though I’m still not sure when i began to lurk/post and when the first golf day was, it’s obviously not the important, it was just curiosity.

     

     

    You are correct about the last 16 of the UCL.

     

     

    I didn’t buy it though, my opinion was it was hunguffery, trying to show the European Cup and the Champions League as different competitions.

     

     

    To me we had been in quarter finals, semi finals, finals and had won the thing, so getting to the last sixteen as a huge achievement for a Scottish Club was a Heron Rouge IMO.

     

     

    The fact that we are in the first UCL league of champions which is universally regarded as such, reinforces my point.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  7. OmaCelt - Welcome Barca on

    I pray we play to the best of our ability tomorrow and get the rub of the green if required.

     

     

    A long and proud history.

     

     

    Come On The Hoops.

  8. BIG-CUP-WINNERS

     

    22:01 on

     

    30 September, 2013

     

    Trophybhoy

     

     

    The same that has always happened to us, with less recourse to any justice.

     

     

     

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    The thing is though BCW is that legally speaking Scotland has always been independent along with the church of Scotland (that in itself is interesting i.e the ones that were rich and clever made sure their career paths remained outside English control…the plebs however, well I leave you to your own conclusion). Anyway from a point of law if a crime was committed in scotland it was tried under scottish law i believe. The highest point of appeal being the court of session. The only time this is not the case is i believe when something is appealed up to the house of lords which is pretty rare. In fairness to scottish law i think its fair to say that most judges who have tried the offensive behaviour act have called it many things and none of them good.

  9. charles kickham

     

     

    22:01 on 30 September, 2013

     

     

    SNP – On the controversial subject of education by religion, 64.4 per cent thought that separate Catholic schools should be phased out.

     

     

    No nothing controversial about it. That’s a discussion, along with teaching religion in classes, that needs to be had por cierto.

  10. canamalar prays Oscar can do it again on

    Jackie mac..,

     

    Hun is not sectarian, please try and stop using meeja definitions.

     

    My point is, AT again likened us to the hun in that article you praised, the last time he did it I pulled him up and he spat out the dummy, he spent weeks telling the hun scum his story was about rangers and that was why he was not looking at their complaints about Celtic then while referring to old firm games advises the world that domestic abuse is a problem that increases on both sides after a game, with the usual order for the meeja ‘both Celtic and rangers’ bad news Celtic leading, that was when i dumped him, can never consider him anything much better than the Scottish meeja simply afraid to stick to his guns, if its about them then there is no need to make comparisons unless your looking to appease.

  11. Setting the bears free. I agree entirely

     

    with your points made.

     

     

    Canamalar. I am no bigot and as one who has suffered through sectarianism, bigotry and discrimation from protestants I am entitled to my

     

    views. This discrimation is still evident today although not nearly as bad as it was, and not all protestants are bigots. I will make no apology if I upset any Unionists for I hold them responsible for what we are living in now. Namely relative poverty for a first world economy, the bedroom tax and a constant right wing government, labour/tory which we never voted for.

  12. Trophybhoy

     

     

    No wanting to cause an argument or anything the like, but it was only a few short years ago that all hell broke loose in the Balkans.

     

     

    The self same could well happen on scotland.

     

     

    In the six counties, it has been a nightmare for long enough, it could well transport over to scotland.

     

     

    Their hatred is there for all to see, they are getting bolder by the day, their intimidation tactics are working, no one is willing to challenged them, that will only grow, they will get worse, their acts will become worse the more the powers appease them.

     

     

    Never say never mi amigo.

     

     

    HH

  13. Trophybhoy

     

     

    Yip in theory you are right. Reality is different, you know and so does everyone else.

  14. I remember Delahunt from the by gone days of yore. He has a season ticket for the line of least resistance. Richard knows the script and, for so many reasons, it must be Rangers-friendly and Celtic-averse. He is just another poltroon grubbing about in pursuit of a grubby living.

  15. zimmerman - Conspiracy Theorist : Nothing more than a derogatory title to dismiss a critical thinker) on

    RRC,

     

     

    Was about to ask if you had watched the last one yet?

     

     

    i’m saving it for later tonight,as i’m off tomorrow.

     

     

    If its as good as the final Dexter i’ll be happy.

  16. canamalar prays Oscar can do it again on

    Trophybhoy, so who do you think the torys and oo would vote for in an independent Scotland ?

  17. por cierto

     

     

    22:11 on 30 September, 2013

     

    charles kickham

     

     

    22:01 on 30 September, 2013

     

     

    Guys, healthy to have a debate but this is one I always struggle to understand when separate education is raised as a or the prime cause for sectarianism. If that is the case why do other parts of the UK and world not have same issues as we do yet have Catholic and other faith schools. Secondly and anyone who has kids going through the education system just now or in the past 10/15 years will testify to this – Catholics are becoming the minority even in Catholic Schools.

  18. theoriginalsadiesbhoy

     

     

    21:32 on 30 September, 2013micktt20:52 on 30 September, 2013theoriginalsadiesbhoy17:46 on 30 September, 2013zimmerman – conspiracy theorist : nothing more than a derogatory title to dismiss a critical thinker)17:12 on 30 September, 2013I doubt if Delahun will on the search for Celtic fans to call in tonight.…………………………………………………………..Jim Delahunt is a Tim.I can back that up…HH………………………………………….MikiDo you mean you can back up that Jim Delahunt is a Tim?

     

     

    Was at school with his two sisters. Lovely family.

     

     

    HH

  19. The most surprising thing about the bigot dome shenanigans is that people are still being surprised?

     

     

    As someone who spends more than 6 months of the year outside the place…….this is one of the most appallingly parochial, narrow minded and sectarian little countries on the planet.

     

     

    It truly is….and you can measure it by any metric you want.

     

     

    Anti Catholic public utterances by elected officials

     

     

    Public murmuring from Alex Salmon about fixing oldco’s financial problems

     

     

    The police being selective in who they arrest for the laws Edinburgh crank out.

     

     

    Unwillingness to give actual numbers by football club orientation who are arrested by club orientation.

     

     

    I’ve always been curious to know the religious and ethnic demographics of publicly funded bodies such as the police etc in this country………can anyone point me to them?

     

     

     

    “one country, many cultures”……..

     

     

    so long as your not A Roman Catholic Celtic supporter one imagines.

  20. canamalar prays Oscar can do it again

     

    22:12 on

     

    30 September, 2013

     

     

    I initially didn’t think he needed to mention us at all either but you must remember his audience probably knows little about Glasgow’s football clubs, and cares even less. So he’s painting a general background. In a straight yes, or no question “Are sectarian songs ever sung at Celtic Park” I’d have to say yes. If I were able to expand on that I’d point out that is now incredibly rare and by a tiny, tiny section of the fans.

     

     

    However, that’s not really the important part. It this – if we are the same as them why have we not had any similar events? Obviously we wouldn’t be able to have any kind of military show but I don’t recall us ever having eg a rally involving the political wing as was, or any other spokespeople for the Republicans.

     

     

    Why is that? It’s because we’re not the same, and most neutrals I’ve ever spoken have come to that conclusion with no prompting from me.

     

     

    Do not fret about whatabouttery in AT’s piece. No genuine neutral thinks we’re alike.

  21. I’ve said this before.Set up a Scottish Republican Party.

     

    1-Set out an agreed agenda.

     

    2-Welcome all faiths and all colours–same as Celtic.

     

    3-Organise by districts.

     

    4-Support the old people in those areas using volunteers to call/see they are all right.

     

    5-Use the young lads and involve them in discussion as much as possible.

     

    6-Be proud of your language and music,but don’t put them above others.

     

    7-Challenge discrimination and lawbreaking from whence ever it comes.

     

    8-Make Scotland a land to be proud of, no matter what religion or colour.

     

    Start it soon–there’s no time like the present.

  22. Kelvinbhoy

     

    22:20 on

     

    30 September, 2013

     

     

    Let’s not forget the myth that ‘non-demoninational’ schools are free of religious instruction.

  23. zimmerman - Conspiracy Theorist : Nothing more than a derogatory title to dismiss a critical thinker) on

    RRC,

     

     

    Quite a feat,

     

     

    Athough rachael has watched a season and a half since last night..lol.

  24. Billy Buoy

     

    Are you one of those cyber-Bats detailed to infiltrate blogs?

     

    Anyway, ever since 1957 Scotland has voted Labour. Secondly, your leader has nailed his ‘fabric of the nation’ and ‘Blood of our blood’ colours to the mast. And they’re certainly not my colours.

  25. Raymac

     

     

    Fantastic ideal world. Unfortunately, Scotland has more bigots, or at least they seem to have more sway, than the rational folk.

  26. canamalar prays Oscar can do it again on

    Billy bhoy 05,

     

    From what I’m reading your a sectarian racist, please dont try and confuse bigotry with either of these, everyone in the world has bigotry issues there are many issues we are all bigoted about. Bigotry simply means to refuse to listen to an alternative argument, I can think of a couple of subjects where I refuse to listen to supporting arguments everyone on here would agree with me on at least one of those subjects, so everyone on here is a bigot.

  27. Heading to the holy ground tomorrow to watch the Bhoys teach La Blaugrana another lesson.

     

     

    I see Derk Sicknote is out, but, as yet, he’s not shown enough to make me worry about that.

     

     

    Really hope James is fully recovered because we so often see the excuse that underperforming players were weakened by such illness.

     

     

    Massive game for Adam up against Neymar. Hope and expect him to thrive.

     

     

    Need Georgios on song from the first whistle. If he’s on his game, he can have Alves under pressure. As good as he us going forward, Alves can defo be exploited by Samaras, including via the use of the cross ball.

     

     

    Set pieces important so let’s hope the work has been done at Lennoxtown. Our return rate has been dire this season.

     

     

    Can’t see Pukki starting. If he does, Stokes knows he’ll never win Lennon over. Looking like it will be Anto, however.

     

     

    Discipline from our captain, please. Discipline. Let your play do the talking.

     

     

    All in all, then, we should win comfortably….

     

     

    HH

  28. If, and I realise at this time it is a BIG if, Scotland does become an Independent Nation, I wonder if any of the mainstream parties would be able to remove themselves from the shackles of their HQs. If they don’t then the voting in the first National Election could be very interesting. As there would be splits from most parties into specific ideology and I’m pretty sure an ultra right wing party and a socialist party of some sort would be formed and then I think you would see their numbers, mainstream parties, diminish very significantly and the nationalist vote, to my mind, would collapse as well, so probably a coalition would be made up with small minority parties having a big say in policy making right wing or left! por cierto

  29. Weeminger – absolutely mate. Though sure there could be an argument that it is not specifically targeted at any one faith in particular whereas in Catholic Schools who also educate about other faiths but place an emphasis on the Sacraments.

  30. weeminger

     

     

    Do not fret about whatabouttery in AT’s piece.

     

    No genuine neutral thinks we’re alike.

     

     

    Sorry mi amigo, I disagree with that 100%.

     

     

    Mr and Mrs Average are thick, the read the rags, they believe what the msm tells them, and the msm tells them, we are the opposite sides of a coin, and they swallow it hook line and sinker.

     

     

    HH

  31. The Comfortable Collective on

    The thing you have to remember about that guy Thompson from Chanel 4 is that from the very beginning when he began “reporting” on the Rangers story, the one constant theme running through all his reporting is that the rangers supporters are vicitms in all that has happened.

     

     

    It is a CONSTANT on all his reports.

     

     

    Once you realise this, it is obvious why he needs to involve Celtic supporters in a story about bigotry at Ibrox and amongst the troops.

     

     

    He spent a lot of time reporting from ‘Northern Ireland’ during his career. I’m sure he gained a lot of empathy for your average bear then which he has been able to bring to his ‘reporting’ over the last couple of years.

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