I don’t subscribe to the ‘Would rather face them with Messi’ world view. I’ve seen Lionel Messi a couple of times, it’s a bit like standing atop the Eiffel Tower, a breath-taking experience, but I don’t need to visit Paris every month to reinforce the view. Tomorrow will be an almighty challenge against one of the sport’s all-time great teams. Having pushed Barcelona to their absolute limits twice last season, we have no right to expect a second consecutive New Firm victory, but this is a home game at Celtic Park, we hope for a win.
The omission of Joe Ledley is a worry. Celtic need mobility and positional awareness in all positions tomorrow, Joe brings both elements to the party, how Neil Lennon compensates for his enforced absence in central midfield will be a key decision.
I also don’t subscribe to the view that, unlike a year ago, Barca will know what to expect this time. Celtic’s 2-1 victory last season came after they took Barca to added time at the Camp Nou before Barca got their winner. Barcelona knew exactly what to expect, they just didn’t know what to do about it. I see no reason why they will be any better tutored this time. Unless they’ve figured out a way of making wee guys jump higher than big guys.
We are fast, we’re tall, we defend when necessary and we run all game. Unless Barca decide to play for a point and defend deep, which they won’t, they will play exactly as they did last season.
On seeing an X Factor item on the news I complained, “That’s not news”, but I was challenged, “If that’s not news, what makes football news?” Sporting and entertainment events are news if those who produce the news determine it to be so, which places considerable authority on news editors.
Charlotte Fakes revelations have shown us how news professionals, keen to distract attention from a disaster zone of a club, tried to create negative ‘news’ stories concerning Celtic.
Three years ago the Green Brigade displayed a banner at Celtic Park which went largely uncommented upon for several days. Four days after the event, the banner became a nationwide news story, TV news reported it and it made a Radio 5 Live morning discussion programme.
The delay in the item becoming ‘news’ was the most important part of the story. It wasn’t news until the news editors had been convinced otherwise. The damage to Celtic’s reputation was considerable.
Today news editors who ran that story three years ago have an interesting dilemma. Do they run a story about an alarming message being displayed at a football ground, or without being lobbied, is that not a story?
Celtic don’t spend money trying to get negative stories about other clubs in the newspapers, but this is surely not exclusively the way the ‘news’ industry works.
We shouldn’t have to wait on a whistle-blower to shine a light on what happened three years ago, journalists know when they have been lobbied, and that’s the real story, which is not dependent on unfathomable leaks.
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Just checked Ladbrokes website – Big VVD is 66s and Efe is 50s in the first goal scorer betting for ramorra……may break into young Kelvinbhoys bank and put a couple of quid on them.
fingerscrossedCSC
YES ? NO? What to do. How to vote. Catholics in Scotland viewing Ibrox and the Squaddies would I’m sure be less inclined to vote YES now. Just how I feel. I’m Catholic and if I were voting today it would NO. The sectarianism has been around for generations. There do not appear to be any reasons to think it may get worse with the status quo however a change to YES is unpredictable.
“were voting today it would be NO”
big-cup-winners
21:56 on 30 September, 2013
Do you think we (Tims) would be safe in an independent Scotland ?
Naw.
weeminger,
It wasnt a straight yes or no question though was it, I asked when was the last time you heard a sectarian song at Celtic Park, my point is exactly what I think you seem to be missing, most dont know and dont care so if AT says we’re no better than them then thats just wrong and a lie, so when he is bringing us into storys’ about their savagery then he’s telling the world we’re no any better. That grinds my gears
Raymac ….. You’re on the right lines – i just don’t get one man’s intolerance to another.
Hence, proud to be a Tim. Embrace difference, embrace tolerance.
Shalom.
.. mon the hoops
The Comfortable Collective
22:33 on
30 September, 2013
Nail on the head about AT.
He is not,and will never be a friend to us.
HH
Good – I’m listening to Sparkle in the Rain , the full album, on youtube.
Bad – I’m sneaking off to the medicine cabinet to swig the Famous Grouse my wife uses for hot toddies; I’m so sorry.
Anybody watching a fat smug Hun on the news?
Kelvinbhoy
22:35 on
30 September, 2013
Just don’t lend Jobo the bus fare home with it, in case he falls asleep again
HH
CRC
THE EXILED TIM
22:32 on
30 September, 2013
We’re not in the rags down there, as a rule. Do I think most Scots are genuine neutrals? No. I lived in England for several years and those that had any thoughts at all on us didn’t think we were as bad.
It’s also worth remembering C4 news is national, it is generally watched by people of a more enquiring mind than might watch BBC or ITV news.
And finally would you rather the story was reported with a slight whiff of whatabouttery or not reported at all, because that’s where we were headed before?
setting free the bears supports Celtic’s best fighter- Wee Oscar Knox
21:45 on
30 September, 2013
That’s easy. The new Celtic strip!
HH
CRC
#fearless wee oscar is on a celticrollercoaster
Yip, Jobo is not to be trusted with getting off the bus at the right place. He should just bung the driver to give him a shout at the stop after the Town Centre……hope your are good and can boost my score for the predictor league(think I had a nightmare at the weekend).
canamalar prays Oscar can do it again
22:39 on
30 September, 2013
As I’m really badly pointing out to TET, C4 news is a minority news programme with an audience that view themselves as more questioning of MSM. Some (not many I grant you) will ask why were are different.
To be honest, I’ve never really understood why anybody thought AT was a “friend of Celtic”. He stated from the outset that he wasn’t interested in anything other than the failing of corporate governance at the club, and at the SFA.
Thegreenfaerie’s post went straight in at number 2 on AT’s blog.
That’s ma ghurl……
THE EXILED TIM @ 22:40 on 30 September, 2013
A wee vignette about the Thompson guy from Channel 4.
Last season he tweeted about the magnificent 50,000 plus crowd at a sevco game (Think it was against Queens Park).
Very quickly, many people put him right, that the crowd was a lot, LOT less than that.
He did correct himself, but blamed it on the fact he had not checked out the information he had been given. That is what he said!
This is a person who purports to be a journalist, yet quite easily makes shite up and hope it doesn’t get spotted.
(He will admit to publishing shite when challenged – but when challenged, will blame it on the fact he hasn’t checked the facts- BRILLIANT).
I’m sure he is impartial when reporting from Syria, Lebanon, etc.
It seems he only has a blind spot when it comes to sevco supporters.
weeminger
I also lived in england, and maybe it was where I was, but the Irish were seen as second class, ahead of the coloured people, but still seen as inferior.
I must admit, religion didn’t seem to enter the fray, just the anti Irish thing.
People are thick, they need leaders, they need to be told what to believe, and they gorge themselfs on whatever is fed to them.
C4 news maybe be slightly higher brow, but don’t fool youself that the average reader is clued up, they are not.
I agree that any info that is msm, is better than the Pravda approach, still I don’t buy it.
HH
Let’s get this clear, Scotland is not Mississippi in the ‘fifties nor is it Germany in the ‘thirties. But that exhibition at Ibrox on Saturday was an outrage. Here you had our armed forces, ‘our brave boys’, whatever, gleefully endorsing a celebration of anti-Catholic bigotry. Who’s in charge of these people?
Surely my father and his brothers didn’t fight WW2 for this?
Weeminger,
Exactly, then to appease the hoards and misinform his more questioning audience he tells the world we are as bad as them when we had no place in his story, why would he involve us ?
Canamalar- thanks for putting me right. you are as ever specific and correct. the abuse issue is so important. exposing AT’s placatory stance is just as important and something I can miss.
Kelvinbhoy
22:49 on
30 September, 2013
You’re lucky, the team you were playing did not do much better. Think you are loosing by 2 pts, whilst I scored better than you both (but still badly) and I am trailing by 20 pts. CQN Europa League beckons for me :-)
Scores will be out on Wednesday, as I have a couple of queries to resolve and a wee bit busy tomorrow :-)
HH
CRC
Really good article about the bigotfest at Ibrokes
http://logicsrock.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/what-on-earth-was-brass-thinking.html?m=1
Fritzsong
Totally agree. My folks fought in the first and second WW as well and would be spinning in their graves at that spectacle.
THE EXILED TIM
22:54 on
30 September, 2013
You’re probably right. I forget that I’ve not always been speaking to people out with my own left-leaning social group :)
Chairbhoy
“I didn’t buy it though, my opinion was it was hunguffery, trying to show the European Cup and the Champions League as different competitions.”
The argument I was addressing was that getting to the last 16 of the CL was a superior achievement to reaching a Uefa Cup or Europa league final.
It could not have been hunguffery because it was an argument being advanced by many CQNrs on here and, though we have a few visiting huns, it was an argument largely made by Celtic fans.
It only became perceived as hunguffery because the deid club did it first in 2006 but we were agreeing that this was the next step in 2004 and 2005, so the revision to say it was not superior could more easily be portrayed as timguffery or plain sour grapes.
I still believe it is harder to get out of CL groups to last 16 than it is to get to a Uefa final (and lose). Since the 90s we have seen Casino Salzburg (now Red Bull Salzburg), Bordeaux, Lazio, Alaves, Sporting Lisbon, Middlesborough, Espanyol, Rangers, Bremen, Fulham, Braga and Bilbao all achieve the same status as losing finalists that we did.
Last 16 CL does not see anywhere near as many surprise teams reach that level. Among the ones to do so, Rangers and Apoel Limassol stand out, though Apoel have also made it to the quarter-final
stage.
I know Seville was a mystical and magical period for our support but, as a sporting achievement, I cannot accept that it betters reaching last 16 stage of CL.
Anyroadup,
bawbaws,
Night night n
Hail Hail
#fearless wee oscar is on a celticrollercoaster
Good man…cheers
TCC
I remember that, typical jurno, bullshit the plebs, 99% will swallow it, and feck the other 1%.
He is no friend to us.
He has been got at, he knows the hun story is massive, it is probably the biggest scoop any decent jurno could dream of, it has everything, fraud, theft….etc, etc, etc…..
Yet they give it a bodyswerve.
HH
canamalar prays Oscar can do it again
22:55 on
30 September, 2013
As I talk(write) through this whole thing I can only see one reason. Pressure from editors. If he continues to write about Rangers and never talks about us, he’s in danger of being seen as unobjective and pursuing some kind of vendetta.
I think if he’d really wanted to bring us into with an ‘opposite controversy’ the poppy protest from the GB would be involved. As it is a mention that sectarian singing occurs at CP is of relatively little consequence.
Dexter
Hope ye dinna mind,pal
fur
Ah am gonna talk aboot the Morra’s Game.
Ah agree wi ye that Pukki, is jist not quite Oven Ready ,tae Represent us ,in a C.L.
confronto, against opposition like Barca.
His State a readiness..in Not quite..”Stick a Fork in Him..and he is good tae go.”
Ah wid gie him .. at least a Month or Two Mair.. before Ah wid risk the Laddie,in a Really Important game..
He wull Get there.. but…….
Tomorrow, it goes withoot Saying.. but, Ah wull.. Anywey..
That Celtic, Need tae Go wit the Old.. Nine Men Behind the Ba’.. And Wan Solitary
Lonely Linwood Striker, up front and awa Alain,alain
And…fur Tomorrow’s Menu.. Ah wid.. Issue a Surprise Morsel..
Yes..
Ah wid Plump fur
Amido… the Magnificent .. tae Be oor one and Only Striker.. Up Front and Center..awe alain, alain.
Amido, is a Natural fur this game..
Besides the Fact that He Wull Score, a Goal, if he gets the chance..
He is Made fae.. It now has bin established
of One Hundred Percent.. Caoutchouc!
Those Barca Boys wull Bounce aff him like Runaway Pin Balls,
fur he is quite Unstoppable.. when he gets up full steam..
and He kin run like the Fabled , Linty, as well.
Sammi, is also a lad who takes a ton of Stopping when he reaches critical Mass..
But , the difference between he and Amido..is that Amido is Made of Pure Caoutchouc..and Sammi,is made of ,mostly , Wet Noodles..so Sammi kin be easily
Brought tae Earth.. by the Faintest of Body Checks..
Yes..like it or no.. Sammi, diz Fa’ Doon a loat.. although, he diz earn us an awfy loat of Free Kicks fur us.. of which we should tak much mair advantage . but, malheuresment.. we Don’t, always.
This wid be Kojo’s Team fur the Morro.
Forster
Lustig, Izzy
Ambrose , Virgil,
Matthews, Broonie, Mulgrew, Commons, Sammi,
Amido, the Magnificent.
Nice Chatting
Kojo
Still Laughin’
weeminger
22:52 on 30 September, 2013,
I can’t see were you are coming from as regards AT.
Don’t you think he did lift his head above the the parapet unlike the smsm?
STV Barca preview on now
weeminger
23:06 on
30 September, 2013
Sorry not just pressure from editors, but possibly also a personal need to be seen as objective.
Put it this even as a Celtic supporter and season ticket holder I wouldn’t want to be in his position of having to write these stories and be seen as impartial.
raymac
22:25 on 30 September, 2013
I sometimes wonder how Scotland would react to an overtly Orange political party and how much support it would get.
cv
Both Greenslade and AT should be commended for highlighting an issue our MSM will not report on.
weeminger
Living here was a bit of an eye opener, the lanuage thing for starters has me at a massive disadvantage, it was only when I got a tad more understanding of it, I realised, for sure, that people are the same the world over, they all want others to think for them.
Anyways, big game soon.
Take care and god bless Timland.
HH
KTF
sipsini
23:10 on
30 September, 2013
Yes, and I’m saying that from my point of view it’s far better the story is reported even with the unneeded mention of us than not at all.
Stories about the failings of Rangers are not anti-Rangers, nor are they necessarily anything to do with Celtic.
If anybody thinks for one second, he wouldn’t go after us with the same zeal if there was a similar story, they are very much mistaken.
Wouldn’t it be ironic if the blatant, overt, anti Irish / Catholic manifestations in Scotland, resulted in a return to the Faith of those who have lapsed?
Faith of our Fathers stuff, eh?
At least it may help the continuance of the Faith to the next generation, as it would appear to be only a matter of time before Catholics will be a tiny minority in Scotland and not due to any SNP policies.
I’ll leave it at that.
Good night, Celtic people.