Live updates on tonight’s BBC documentary, Rangers – The men who sold the jerseys will appear below.
The article will be updated throughout the evening with further comment and analysis available in the comments section.
BBC Revelations:
Graeme Souness received £30k from Rangers in an EBT in 2001, 10 years after leaving the club and while he was manager of Blackburn Rovers. Blackburn bought Turkish international, Tugay Kerimoğlu, from Rangers in 2001.
Duff and Phelps partner, David Grier, attended meetings where Craig Whyte’s use of Ticketus to repay Rangers bank debt was discussed before the transaction took place. Duff and Phelps are now suing Whyte and his solicitors for this transaction. The BBC have seen email evidence that Grier instructed the invoice to Ticketus.
Roger Isaacs from the Institute of Chartered Accountants said, “given that [Grier] was a partner of Duff & Phelps, I’m surprised that that involvement wasn’t firstly disclosed, and secondly doesn’t give rise to the sort of conflict of interest that I would have expected to have precluded Duff & Phelps from accepting the appointment as administrators.”
Isaacs, “I would expect Duff and Phelps.. to be forcibly replaced”.
Paul Baxendale-Walker, Rangers tax advisor and pornographer: “If HMRC don’t win, then hopefully you’re going to come back and say Paul, all the Rangers fans in this country want to thank you because you single-handedly saved Rangers FC £50m. You’re a hero.” (raises eyebrows while saying “hero”, Smoooth)
Paul, you’re a hero.
Sir David Murray: “I personally have never received any payment from any trust from Rangers Football Club”.
BBC: Murray received over £6m.
Graeme Souness received £30k 10 years after leaving Rangers while manager of Blackburn Rovers, five weeks before concluding transfer of Tugay Kerimoğlu.
40% of all Rangers players between 2000 and 2010 benefited from EBTs with some receiving half their income this way.
The SFA president received £95k over five years.
Sir David Murray: “It was non-contractual, it was discretionary”.
Ronald Waterreus’ agent questioned the tax scheme and was told “in the interests of Ronald as it enables him to receive funds tax-free.
“I can confirm that we will not pay these amounts to [Ronald] unless they are made through the use of the remuneration trust.”
Murray: “There was category no dual contracts at Rangers”.
Barry Ferguson and Stefan Klos each received £2.5m from EBTs, not declared to the SFA.
The SFA president declined to be interviewed about the £95k he received. In short his statement was “I knew nothing”.
Rangers fan Sammy asks of Sir David, “Why didn’t you just play by the rules?”
Murray borrowed the £6m he used to buy Rangers in 1988 from the Bank of Scotland.
Graham Spiers “Everything about his first decade in charge made him feel a bit man”.
Murray: “Too many people go through their lives never taking chances”.
Roger Isaacs, “All the evidence I’ve seen suggests that the money invested in Rangers has come from the bank”.
Mark Daly: “Sir David Murray left Rangers hopelessly exposed”.
Andrew Ellis: “Whyte told me Prince Albert of Monaco wanted to invest in Rangers.
“I see him every weekend, he wants to get involved.”
Prince Albert’s assistant: “His royal highness doesn’t know this Craig Whyte. His royal highness does not want to invest in this club”.
Murray, “I was duped”.
Speirs, “I believe [Murray] was duped”.
Old Murray friend, “David Murray is not the type of person to be duped by anyone”.
Whyte leaked email, “I have forwarded the projected financial projections to Mike McGIll (of Murray Group). These are not what we will use, they are not sustainable, but they are what the independent board committee want to see”.
Aiden Earley, on money said to be paid from Rangers to Barnstead Athletic, “The £250k that you refer to did not come from Rangers…. In the politest possible way I would very much never like to hear from you again in the context of Rangers”.
Alastair Johnston, Whyte turned out to be “a blatant liar”.
Sammy’s angry.
Gary Whitey, emailed Whyte and David Grier of Duff and Phelps in April 2011, “the Ticketus agreements will become unconditional”.
Duff and Phelps are suing Craig Whyte and his legal team for not disclosing the involvement of Ticketus in repaying Rangers bank debt. The BBC have emails to confirm that David Grier attended the meeting on 24 April 2011 where the Ticketus funding was arranged.
Duff and Phelps claim they knew about “a” Ticketus deal, not “the” Ticketus deal.
Duff and Phelps agreed to be interviews and then pulled out 30 minutes before the arranged time.
Grier, of Duff and Phelps, emailed in June 2011 Ticketus to say “We’ll arrange to get an invoice to you ASAP”.
Roger Issacs, Institute of Chartered Accountants, “I would expect Duff and Phelps to stand down or be forcibly replaced”.
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To the Data room Vatman :O).
Want a chuckle??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR4vV-EnlOI
The gigs up for the duffers and for the SPL
The porno guy was hilarious eh!
Yeah,almost nothing new except Puffs & Phled’s skullduggery,but we all knew what they were;but Mark Daly joined up the dots nicely and castigated the msm for their ineptitude. He also laid it out for the uninformed to ponder.
On one of the daily rags (the wrecker I think) in the comments section re. the ‘reporting’ of the doc. there’s one uberhun (BigBillyBluenose…..seriously) who’s raving that they have ‘won’! Got away with it,stick Minty with the tax bill,NewCo,bidness as usual. They STILL don’t get it!
Still I almost started feelin’ sorry for Sammy;imagined him in Celtic gear to gauge his pain……then I booted myself out of the fog of empathy and thought….ah,go on ya miserable wee git,girfuy.
All those years we had to suffer at their violent hands. Bad enough our teachers ,back in the day,were sadists,we had to fight thae fuds on a daily basis. Good riddance….long overdue.
MattE
re Sammy – I wouldn’t have round my house..
but I think it was quite a cheap exploitation by the BBC – pick a an extreme character and portray him as an average Hun. I actually thought he came across well – was asking the right questions. He didn’t come out with any anti- Celtic patter.
It’s like when a Celtic fan commits a non football related crime and invariably they appear in the papers wearing the Hoops. Cheap media shot.
I’m not comfortable with panning the guy.
Managed to retain smile for last few hrs till CQN rides again .. all that chat about a crack and Miss Lumley .. Too funny.. I kept waiting for Tony Roper or Jonathan Watson to appear .. Macca a shoe in at Xmas special with the pipe n porn walker .. He s even promoting his stuff to Daly .. Tooo funny..
And Sammy .. Bless him.. I kinda want to locate his garage …
How scary?
Such a caricature.. When I stop laughing I ll reflect on the serious shafting Minty has given but for now , that was a funny programme. It mocked the Rankers.. It exposed them as law breaking tax dodging pipe smoking tattooed fools.. And that ll hurt them..
HH
Did you also know that in 2005 the huns ebt cost was 6.5 million, twice the Hibs wages that season, Hibs finished 3rd btw.
and did you know that during this period they didn;t even finish second one season, us then mini huns then cheating barstewards fc
CultsBhoy loves being 1st forever & ever on 23 May, 2012 at 23:22 said:
You’re actually quite funny at times …… Is sammy your pet.?
the Lawyer porn star was a comic creation surely?
TinyTim – little new?
I take it you already knew the names and amounts of the EBTs?
You had already seen the stuff from Watterus’ agent which blow a hole in the EBT defence?
You were fully aware of the documentary evidence showing a serious conflict of interest with the administrators?
Apart from those bombshells, you are right. The documentary said nothing new.
If the SPL enquiry into EBT’s and hidden contracts is struggling to get co-operation from Rangers FC(in administration) I’m sure Mark Daly will be able to help them out.
I know most of what was revealed tonight was known to most on here, but not all. Souness, bung? Dynamite.
Prediction: All Paul67’s predictions will come to fruition.
They are dead, no sporting organisation could survive this being known to the wider public.
I still don’t understand HMRC agreeing to Ffud and Ffelps as administrators in the first place, when they could have appointed their own. Still, it’s given us hours of endless fun.
Hah, I watched this my brother who came round to mine’s for it. We kept pausing it to discuss. I was unintentionally telling him about every revelation before it came and he told me I told him much more than the program did. It still refused to go too in depth imo, but only to be expected with the BBC. The Souness one was a wee bit of a surprise mind you :) I remember his Blackburn side being afforded training facilities before playing us in the Seville year. Hmmm.
Anyway, nothing we didn’t all know thanks to Paul, Phil and RTC, but at least it’s out there beyond the realm of us internet bampots.
Tragically, I expect the stupid huns will be sending death threats to Mark Daly now.
Nothing NEW????
What about the missing $250,000 Banstead FC Money.
Did everyone on here know about that? por cierto
and
your back in the room.
1 hour of truth.
but also comedy gold.
the scene : we are the people , we have a tradition, we are superior.
your last owner was a crook
your next owner is a crook,
your players and board were cheats in it for the money.
your pipe smoking ebt advisor is a crook and a porn star.
your auditors were in it for the brownie points
your administrators were crooks.
john mclelland had the key.
tal
RogueLeader on 23 May, 2012 at 23:40 said:
It certainly put meat on the bones.
Did those exposed on the BBC website include all involved, or we’re some missed out, didn’t seem to be 111 names on there.
Work tomorrow, Goodnight CQN.
Mark Hateley…..getting rid of Duff and Phelps will be like two new signings. Errrr, mmmmm, errrrrrr.
Strip their trophies, strip their medals.
Their integrity, dignity and honesty is already stripped.
The Prince Albert revelation should have carried a health warning. Bloody dangerous the way it was presented. Sacha Baron Cohen at his brilliant best. In discomfort but very happy.
Mark Daly I salute you
Respekk !
HH
67Heaven
My dad had Celtic tattoos, he was an ordinary working class supporter. He didn’t like Rangers but he was no bigot…
the thought of some snotty middle class Huns belittling him if he had merely expressed his love for Celtic would have churned my stomach.
Strikes me that is what some on CQN are doing..
So no he’s not my pet, but I tend to treat folk as I find them.
Had he come out with any bigotted, sectarian, anti-Celtic patter – i would have weighed in..He didn’t!
TinyTim – I forgot the little nugget about the Beast. You knew about his EBT 10 years after leaving the club. A payment he got 5 weeks prior to signing a Rangers player?
Por Cierto – yes!
Ghuys
Excellently constructed prog by Mark Daly. The use of the term “Dataroom” was a hoot , Marks Dataroom was a bit different from Duff £ Phelps version.
The main thrust to me was the assassination of SDM out of his own mouth and then Duff £ Phelps being caught red handed with a blatant conflict of interest.
Together with the SPL statement on non co-operation re the dual contract enquiry , in my view the Shame should be up on another charge of bringing the game into disrepute, over to Mr Regan.
SDM knighthood will be taken back , ushed down the pan or whatever the technical term.
The choice of Sammy got the point across on a number of levels …
Sotbackandrelaxcfc
an ominous thing in relation to all this RFC misery is the complete lack of big Hitter ex Huns coming out and kicking off in the media – conspicuous by their silence..
I think tonight confirmed that they were all gorging themselves from the EBT troughs…
I think some of us are missing the benefit of tonights show. Sure,it was nothing we didnt already know or suspect but now its out there officially and cant be ignored anymore
the exiled tim
i seen dynamo walk on water on the tv must be true ,oh what a night
Hail Hail
Por Cierto on 23 May, 2012 at 23:41 said:
Nothing NEW????
What about the missing $250,000 Banstead FC Money.
Did everyone on here know about that? por cierto
or Minty’s nice little earner??? I have never taken a penny out of Rangers!!
his £6m plus alone proves the EBT scheme was a scam…. rules say it should be given to any employee more or less as a gesture if you like……. but multi millionairre big boss is the biggest benificiary…aye right who would have thunk it :-)
CultsBhoy……
sammy is your average hun.
A thick tattooed, bigotted, unionjack wearing retard…your average hun.
TET…..
I posted earlier, I want a full investigation into the TM honest mistake season as I believe the bigot ex-ref and the lying ref were on the take that season…no doubt.
Anyone who thinks tonight was a letdown, I take it you knew all the names who had an EBT, all the value’s of their EBT’S and if there was paper evicence of the EBT’s.
Brilliant work tonight by Mark Daly.
I also liked how he made out he was helping the hun fans by doing it.
Stupid Hurtin Huns!!
Wonder if Hately thinks Sir David’s title is tainted?
111 names? The Green Brigade will love that :O))).
Just had to login to say
WOW!
Brilliant from Mark Daly.
Brilliant shift from Paul67 today (and his helper/s :-)
Congrats to RTC.
Take a bow Phil Mac & Paul Mac.
MWD WOOOOOOFFFFFF!
PS. I wonder what was hiding under Sammy’s Bouncy Bouncy T-shirt pinned over a picture frame? Was it covering something sinister/sectarian up?
For all we decry the MSM, Marc Daly has said in 90 mins what the blogs have been saying for the last year or so.
THE MSM STILL HAVE THE MEGAPHONE.
And thanks to Paul, Phil, RTC, Paul Mc, and AT.
They have paved the way for the likes of marc daly, just a shame his compadries are bereft of doing their jobs, shameless scum every last one of them, they should hang their heads in shame.
The next documentary is being produced by Paul Baxendale Walker. It focuses on the biased refereeing issue.
It’s going to be called ‘Daly does Dallas’.
Since we have been down it has been announced that the West Ham chairman has registered an interest in buying toxicrangers and will join forces with Charles Green and our Craig. The Green, Whyte and Gold consortium expect to takeover the club in the not to distant future forming a newco called Tricolour Rangers :-)
Boom boom
HH
CRC
Agent Craig
So are the Celtic equivalents your average Tim?
The big disappoint for me tonight (given the amount of information now in the public domain these past 12+ months) is the complete apathy by the media – and I include those so-called top sports journalists in England.
This has to be one of THE major sports exposes in U.K. football history – yet major outlets (outwith Scotland) have failed to give it any national coverage.
talkSPORT tonight is a classic example – I posted 5 hours ago that Barton got a 12 match ban (a serious issue) – the sum total of their output tonight.
Not once this evening has any presenter (nor bulletin) referred to the BBC expose of; corruption, breach of rules and financial mis-management.
This will not make back-page coverage in Europe unless UEFA get involved!
CultsBhoy loves being 1st forever & ever on 23 May, 2012 at 23:22 said:
Less of the snyde comments re ‘Sammy’ – I thought the guy was genuine, spoke well..a supporter who has invested and deserves answers – I didn’t hear him coming out with any sectarian tosh or anything else offensive?
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ok, i know your way up north, but here goes
“Sammy”
is a hun. a proper hun.
he is well known for being a Jimmy Bell persona in the tyre business.
cultsbhoy are you for real did you see his garage well the bits they could show us on tv do you think the rest of his place would be welcoming to the average celtic fan??
Let’s face it we all knew the info already… Ok souness is a good one
the banstead connection was actually mentioned to me last year by a hun….a good one….well maybees???
But the question on everyones lips….. the kit man, that bawbag hasn’t been mentioned yet…surely he was worth a few hundred thousand
Expect them to fold within a week or two
Happy Days
HH