Live updates on tonight’s BBC documentary, Rangers – The men who sold the jerseys will appear below.
The article will be updated throughout the evening with further comment and analysis available in the comments section.
BBC Revelations:
Graeme Souness received £30k from Rangers in an EBT in 2001, 10 years after leaving the club and while he was manager of Blackburn Rovers. Blackburn bought Turkish international, Tugay Kerimoğlu, from Rangers in 2001.
Duff and Phelps partner, David Grier, attended meetings where Craig Whyte’s use of Ticketus to repay Rangers bank debt was discussed before the transaction took place. Duff and Phelps are now suing Whyte and his solicitors for this transaction. The BBC have seen email evidence that Grier instructed the invoice to Ticketus.
Roger Isaacs from the Institute of Chartered Accountants said, “given that [Grier] was a partner of Duff & Phelps, I’m surprised that that involvement wasn’t firstly disclosed, and secondly doesn’t give rise to the sort of conflict of interest that I would have expected to have precluded Duff & Phelps from accepting the appointment as administrators.”
Isaacs, “I would expect Duff and Phelps.. to be forcibly replaced”.
Paul Baxendale-Walker, Rangers tax advisor and pornographer: “If HMRC don’t win, then hopefully you’re going to come back and say Paul, all the Rangers fans in this country want to thank you because you single-handedly saved Rangers FC £50m. You’re a hero.” (raises eyebrows while saying “hero”, Smoooth)
Paul, you’re a hero.
Sir David Murray: “I personally have never received any payment from any trust from Rangers Football Club”.
BBC: Murray received over £6m.
Graeme Souness received £30k 10 years after leaving Rangers while manager of Blackburn Rovers, five weeks before concluding transfer of Tugay Kerimoğlu.
40% of all Rangers players between 2000 and 2010 benefited from EBTs with some receiving half their income this way.
The SFA president received £95k over five years.
Sir David Murray: “It was non-contractual, it was discretionary”.
Ronald Waterreus’ agent questioned the tax scheme and was told “in the interests of Ronald as it enables him to receive funds tax-free.
“I can confirm that we will not pay these amounts to [Ronald] unless they are made through the use of the remuneration trust.”
Murray: “There was category no dual contracts at Rangers”.
Barry Ferguson and Stefan Klos each received £2.5m from EBTs, not declared to the SFA.
The SFA president declined to be interviewed about the £95k he received. In short his statement was “I knew nothing”.
Rangers fan Sammy asks of Sir David, “Why didn’t you just play by the rules?”
Murray borrowed the £6m he used to buy Rangers in 1988 from the Bank of Scotland.
Graham Spiers “Everything about his first decade in charge made him feel a bit man”.
Murray: “Too many people go through their lives never taking chances”.
Roger Isaacs, “All the evidence I’ve seen suggests that the money invested in Rangers has come from the bank”.
Mark Daly: “Sir David Murray left Rangers hopelessly exposed”.
Andrew Ellis: “Whyte told me Prince Albert of Monaco wanted to invest in Rangers.
“I see him every weekend, he wants to get involved.”
Prince Albert’s assistant: “His royal highness doesn’t know this Craig Whyte. His royal highness does not want to invest in this club”.
Murray, “I was duped”.
Speirs, “I believe [Murray] was duped”.
Old Murray friend, “David Murray is not the type of person to be duped by anyone”.
Whyte leaked email, “I have forwarded the projected financial projections to Mike McGIll (of Murray Group). These are not what we will use, they are not sustainable, but they are what the independent board committee want to see”.
Aiden Earley, on money said to be paid from Rangers to Barnstead Athletic, “The £250k that you refer to did not come from Rangers…. In the politest possible way I would very much never like to hear from you again in the context of Rangers”.
Alastair Johnston, Whyte turned out to be “a blatant liar”.
Sammy’s angry.
Gary Whitey, emailed Whyte and David Grier of Duff and Phelps in April 2011, “the Ticketus agreements will become unconditional”.
Duff and Phelps are suing Craig Whyte and his legal team for not disclosing the involvement of Ticketus in repaying Rangers bank debt. The BBC have emails to confirm that David Grier attended the meeting on 24 April 2011 where the Ticketus funding was arranged.
Duff and Phelps claim they knew about “a” Ticketus deal, not “the” Ticketus deal.
Duff and Phelps agreed to be interviews and then pulled out 30 minutes before the arranged time.
Grier, of Duff and Phelps, emailed in June 2011 Ticketus to say “We’ll arrange to get an invoice to you ASAP”.
Roger Issacs, Institute of Chartered Accountants, “I would expect Duff and Phelps to stand down or be forcibly replaced”.
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Por Cierto @ 23:41
You jokin?? I definitely heard that one months ago. Can’t mind where though, I think Phil Mac.
Hi just logged on.
Anythin going on.
far from disappointed, there was so much in there to take on board. that was a huge amount of information, all of it really damning.
If Graeme Souness could allegedly withdraw an amount of £30,000 from an EMPLOYEE Benefit Trust 10 years after he apparently left the club, does that mean, logically, that he was actually still an employee all those years later, or that he was re-hired for the period of that withdrawal? Or could ex-employees make withdrawals too once a trust was set up in their name?
CultsBhoy loves being 1st forever & ever
Alright then let’s Save Sammy, Flush the rest of them!
Sorry but I’ll take great delight in his suffering when the day of reckoning comes. Can’t imagine he was questioning where all the money was coming from when they spent £12m on Flo.
Nah, can imagine him in his ludge laughing how sick we’d have been at their wealth. My time to laugh ……unashamedly too!
Moonbeams WD. Kano 1000 \o/ Supporting Neil Lennon 100%. Champions. on 23 May, 2012 at 23:48 said:
hoping your on your bike , and listening to good advice.
checking in is ok, keeping it lit is better.
x
WOW
DONE
GAME OVER
The quoted email exchange regarding Sasa Papac exploded all over my screen.
For me, that was the dynamite required for the SPL and SFA.
Strip their trophies. 3-0 defeats all round. Including the last 3 seasons.
I got the impression that Paul Murray has just had the stuffing knocked right out of him. He knows the evidence is there and has now been placed squarely in the public domain.
Cheats. Liars. Frauds. Thieves.
The biggest scandal in British sporting history.
Paul67 – fantastic effort today. Get some sleep.
Night All & Hail Hail.
PS – the best of all? The realisation that this could never happen at our club.
you see what I did there…kit man….fold ….ehh
I’m here all week…..in fact I’ve been here for as long as I can remember.
Really need this to be over soon, sleeping patterns are all over the place…not a dish washed again tonight :)
HH
Fortune and art..
Ok apart from the £250,000 did anyone know anything about anything that was new :)))) sorry por cierto….
Last word on Sammy or any other Hun..
Any sectarian inferences, any anti- Celtic patter, any bigoted chat – I’m making a very unfavorable assessment.
I’m not judging anybody on Tattoos or their ‘inferior’ social class or occupation.
donegalpaul
:>)))))
……………….
Agent craig etc
It will come out, proving it will be hard, but the allegations will come out.
There is also the small matter of doctored referee reports, and Celtic are in possesion of said reports, I would stake my grandweans lifes on that BTW.
The phone hacking thing, I don’t know anything about that, but as they say there is no smoke without fire, and they wouldknow a thing or two about smoke……
Is Paul lying down in a darkened room?
Beeb have stated 111 EBTs were used.
Beeb have listed 72 EBTs in their beneficiary ‘expose’.
Notable by their absence from the list:
Myth
Sally
Sair Laig European Cup Lugs (the closest they ever got)
Nikica Jelavic (“I put an end to the EBTs when I bought the club” – CW two months ago)
Sair laig who assualted Milsom and escaped a red (he was punished enough)
Laughatme
Any more that might, just might, be in that missing 39?
The Irish flag is green, white and orange, not gold.
that nice man sammy’s B*uncy b*uncy t- shirt tells you all you need to know
About him
A stinking h*n!!
H.H
That was fantastic.
The wife actually asked when the porn guy was on if this was for real.
Prince Albert ! oh cragie boy what a chancer you are .
What a mess.
So what happens next?
over on twit land it sounds like there is more payment like the souness 1 but who too ? this could get realy messy for them but heaven on earth for us
Rangers going tits up. Who can we blame?
(1) Craig Whyte
(2) Duff and Phelps
(3) Ramsay
I think Mark Daly’s documentary was good and the BBC did put out new information today. Well done for that.
David Murray was exposed as the main culprit (as we all know) but Daly showed that all the others have added fuel to the fire.
My bet is Daly is now looking into Chuck Green and his scores of backers…….
Thehuddlehound,
Just a hidden payment. A virtual brown bag. A sweetener. Tax free of course
HH
thehuddlehound on 23 May, 2012 at 23:51 said:
If Graeme Souness could allegedly withdraw an amount of £30,000 from an EMPLOYEE Benefit Trust 10 years after he apparently left the club, does that mean, logically, that he was actually still an employee all those years later, or that he was re-hired for the period of that withdrawal? Or could ex-employees make withdrawals too once a trust was set up in their name?
naw it means they are a cheating bunch of barstewards…we all knew it….. now everyone else knows it
Ghuys
There is another follow up program there for Mar Daly just after the L event and the football authorities reaction to this.
This prog tonight , whilst not revealing too many new facts, did marshall the evidence well and hit the target. I expect a few Chairman and CEOs will be taking stock.
May give more power to Alex Thomson to join in!
Chillctc
quonno – :-)))
Wasn’t disappointed by the show tonight. Daly did a good job. Thought their might be reference to REF -EBT but not to be. Yet!
Murray’s denial makes it all the sweeter as we KNOW he was at it! Problem for him is that the Scoddish MSM will be struggling to cover for him. But they will try.
As for the Blue Knights wazzock stating that in his term they had reduced the debt from £30m to £18m. Where is the proof? Where are the audited accounts (not David’s ones)? Why is this just accepted as fact? Where did this cash come from?
icantbelievetheiraccountscsc
kit man anyone :)
5th generation on 23 May, 2012 at 23:55 said:
I thought Ellis was having a laugh with the Prince Albert bit. Craigie bhoy is hardly going to sue him for slander.
CultsBhoy loves being 1st forever & ever on 23 May, 2012 at 23:49 said:
Agent Craig
So are the Celtic equivalents your average Tim?
Do you honestly think sammy, the inbred bigot, likes Celtic???
Dont be so naive.
Do you think this guy wears bouncy shirts, tattoo’s, hangs pictures……etc but thinks Celtic are OK.
Yes there are Celtic fan’s who take it too far but never to the extent of the hun’s…like sammy.
Great work Paul67 thats been some shift you put in today
excellent effort on our behalf thanks from all lurkers and posters Im sure
Steviebhoy66 on 23 May, 2012 at 23:58 said:
kit man anyone :)
That’s what I was thinking ;)
H.H
Still not sure Whyte isn’t a genius….
Total conman – has Keith Jackson ever shown any contrition for his ludicrous “billionaire’ claims?
Tá ár lá anois.
Die Ya huns..!
donegalpaul on 23 May, 2012 at 23:56 said:
The Tugay money is a smoking gun alright. But not as big as the Boumsong transfer.
I need to lie down now.
Must admit am looking forward to the fall out the morra.
Good night bhoys.
HH
KTF
One thing mystifies me…..towards the start of the doc. Mark Daly mentioned referees in the same breath as all the other criminal conspiraists….so I waited to hear of mibs backhanders etc. Nada. Was this just a wee inside trailer for a future exposé?
I don’t think even Sammy would have believed the Prince Albert one from Craigy
Agent Craig
I’m sure he hates Celtic…that’s not my point…
For those who were disappionted that tonights doco told you nothing you didn’t already know or suspect, remember that you are an internet bampot and as such represent the minority.
This programme delivered if only to highlight the huns crimes to a much wider audience. The huns are doomed. There will be no newxo in the spl
smoking gun? more like a big steaming jobby!
Night Night
hail hail