It doesn’t really matter to me how other people write their own history. If Queens Park claim to be the same Club as the Queen of Clubs, they are welcome to, as long as they respectfully allow me to express scepticism. Fortunately, Queens Park’s business model is not dependent on making such an outlandish claim.
A whole lot of nonsense has been written on the subject of a recently liquidated football club, “it was the holding company that was liquidated”, when it wasn’t actually a holding company, and then we have claims about advice from a “panel of the London Stock Exchange”, which was quickly withdrawn.
We are asked to believe that a football club cannot go out of business. It’s an interesting thought, not one I subscribe to, but interesting nonetheless. If you are happy with this belief, fair play to you, it doesn’t matter what anyone else believes.
I’ve met Jim Spence. He’s a guy who emerged from the Dundee Untied fanzine world and established a reputable career in the game. His affinity for United has never been hidden, nor should it be. United, as all clubs, have gone through periods of turmoil but Jim has called things as he has seen them, with his own club, and with others.
This week Jim made a comment about a football club which went into liquidation. It was more tempered than comments made by a former manager and director of the liquidated club, by the chief executive of its successor club, by all the contemporary newspaper coverage, and by the successor club’s current head of PR. Despite this, Jim has been on the receiving end of a sustained campaign by the thought police.
Jim may privately think what those at the successor club once said, but if he also wants to express those thoughts, the consequences can be acute.
He’s not alone. I know others in the media who have told me straight that they are not prepared to touch the Newco/Sameco subject, the resultant hassle is not what they got into journalism for.
Charlotte Fakes has given us a glimpse into how powerful people can manipulate and control Scotland. It has given reason to pause ahead of next year’s big decisions. The BBC and only the BBC are strong enough to stand up against bullying, you can forget the commercial media for one simple reason, this subject is the equivalent of commercial self-harm.
It wouldn’t seem like the weekend without Rangers International writing about going legal on someone or other, although I suspect they’ll be content having played to the gallery with this one and not trouble the BBC, but questions remain for the BBC, no matter what happens next.
I consume enormous volumes of BBC output every month, it is my first port of call for news, and often my last. It is one of the best aspects of British life, but if it can be intimidated like the commercial media, there is no point in it existing in the first place.
Fortify your journalists or shut the doors.
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M McGill
Do you believe in coincidence?
Or do you believe that everything happens for a reason?
Night all. Night wee Oscar god bless x
Delaneys Dunky
01:27 on 9 September, 2013
Everything happens for a reason :)
Margaret McGill
01:15 on
9 September, 2013
Are these the same ozzie pinkos that believe in the enormous heat capacity of carbon dioxide and water vapour?
That`s a completely marginal issue for them.
Their realpolitic is socialism,but they can`t admit that because nobody would vote for them.
As it is,their vote has reduced by 20%
As if what Australia does would make any difference to climate change.
Delusions of relevance.
M McGill
I believe that too Margaret. :-)
Karma time?
macjay1 for Neil Lennon
01:33 on 9 September, 2013
I didnt call you Macjay dismay for no reason you know :)
Awe come on…..Global Politics Global Pollution Global Economy.
Australia is a global beacon.
Australia has a lot of respect. lets keep it that way.
Why do you think people want to come to Australia?
To me its a symbol of hope for the human race.
Not Stockport in the sun.
SFTB:
Stackridge?
Awesome!!
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G’Day All You Sheilas.. Wogs and Poofters..;-)
Summa of JohnnyWarrenCSC
Margaret McGill
01:40 on
9 September, 2013
Can`t disagree with any of that.
Well perhaps the G.F.C.which wasn`t global but had global ramifications.
Precisely why I feel the need to counter misinformation about Oz with facts.
https://www.facebook.com/jim.savage.14289/posts/10151896524082292
Just been reading back and this must be one of the most emotional days ever on CQN.
Wasn’t able to make the game today as on nightshift last night and again tonight. Also didn’t see the game on TV. Reluctantly signed up to BT vision (they seem to show zombie games every second week) but it wasn’t activated in time. Saw the highlights posted earlier(through tears)and coupled with the experiences of those that were there……just incredible. There is no club remotely like Celtic. My thoughts go out to Miki67, whose way with words was always a standout, to my late partner who lost her battle with cancer at the beginning of July and to Stan, Oscar and all of those still fighting.
Without wishing to sully the blog on this night, looks like some very interesting stuff coming out on the undead and their attempts at immortality over the next few days.
HH to each and every one of you.
Apologies for not reading back tonight guys. Today has been an amazing rollercoaster for me. Mostly sad Im afraid. Late last night I heard on here of the passing of Miki67. Whilst only known him as a cyber friend on here, Im deeply saddened by his passing. Whilst not always agreeing with what he said, I always looked foward to his next post. Never boring! Sincere condolances to Larrybhoy and extended family.
Yesterday, I gave up an All Ireland ticket so I could attend my beloved Dundalk V Drogheda local derby ( Corkcelt might want to kill me now). With Dundalk in with a big chance of league glory after finishing bottom last season, I had to cheer on my team today.
This morning I woke up to the news that probably Dundalks greatest ever supporter Marty Sheilds, had suddenly passed away. A young man in his prime. A gent.
Derby day was not gonna be the same. A beautiful tribute by fans and players, post match and after the final whistle brought many tears to the eye.
However, a moment that touched me and a lot of others was meeting my friend and hero, Tommy McConville. Tommy is a Dundalk legend, that has been fighting Prostate Cancer for over a year. Whilst always upbeat and determined, Tommy ended up in hospital during the week, very poorly. He signed himself out and travelled back down the motorway 50 miles to attend tonights match as it meant so much to the club, a big big game. Unfortunately, Tommy wasnt able to stay for the full match and had to be taken back to Beaumount in Dublin.
Tommy, will always be remembered in Dundalk, as the guy that missed an open goal from 6 yards in the final minutes of the last 16 European Cup tie against CELTIC! A goal that would have put Dundalk in the last 8 V Real Madrid! The Johnny Doyle tie!
While Tommy continues his battle, it was a great joy and give me great pride, to see a tribute to him with best wishes on the Celtic.net website.
http://www.celticfc.net/newsstory?item=4555
Proof, that Tommy Mc Conville, is held in high esteem. Please, my friends on here, take a litte time to say a prayer, to whatever God you have, for my hero who became a great friend.
PS
Dundalk won with a last minute goal after a very poor match. Level with St Pats with 6 to play!!!
Possibly the strangest thing in the Australian electoral campaign was the sight of a man of what looked like Indian ethnicity (although I may be wrong) campaigning to keep Australia for the Australians!?
For all you supporters of Mr Abbott out there, just put yourself in the shoes of a refugee for a minute.
You have escaped from a country where your very life is at risk every single day.
You have witnessed or endured rape and beatings, seen family members and friends taken away and murdered; every day you await your turn.
You fear for your childrens future.
So you flea your home in desperate hope of refuge, only to find just about every other place you go, no-one wants you.
You desperately risk everything to get on a rickety old boat to take you to a country which is rich and can easily afford to provide refuge.
But, when you get there (if you get there), you find that they too don’t want you and lock you up.
In the camps you are once again, exposed to beatings and rape.
But this time, you have nowhere to go. You can’t get out.
You are imprisoned indefinitely with the high likelihood that you will be sent right back to the very place which forced (yes FORCED) you to set out in the first place.
Mr Abbott claims to be a faithful Catholic.
Where does it say in any of the teachings of the Catholic church that you are to turn away those who come to you for refuge?
Where does it say “stop the boats”?
Where does it say cut back on charitable deeds and giving alms to the poor?
I suspect you might just find that the opposite is actually what the Catholic faith professes.
~Moravcik Magic~
02:05 on 9 September, 2013
Do you mean that everyone is welcome? :)
Margaret McGill
00:38 on
9 September, 2013
Macjay
Is it true that the Australian citizenship has 3 results:
In
Out
Can have another crack at it
?
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C’mon Maggie, we all know that the third option should read
shake it all about.
Oh aye, another co-incidence is that Victor Wanayama, has left Parkhead or yer man would have been shot 67 times.
Glad yer back.
Teuchter
Our country is rich. One of the richest in the world.
We should be more compassionate and caring to those who seek our aid.
We have the capacity to do so.
Unfortunately, our country is also filled with greed and intolerance.
The fact is, if they were honest, most Australians look on the refugees as a threat, not through terrorism but simply as a threat to our economic prosperity.
And that is the crux of the matter.
Now that I am here and I am doing all right, I don’t want others to come here and possibly make me share my wealth. It’s mine and I want to keep it.
why has charlottes page been closed
whats going on
Good morning all from a dry, cloudy but calm East Kilbride.
Always glad to wake up as a Celtic supporter and even more proud this morning. Thank’s for yesterday Celtic.
~Moravcik Magic~
02:05 on
9 September, 2013
and 4:27
Do you think that Australia is entitled to decide who comes to this country as a refugee?
Morning champions
Roll on saturday to get back to the fitba ….. fed up reading ozzie rules
Coyle’s Hoops clause
By DEREK McGREGOR
WIGAN chairman Dave Whelan says he has an agreement to let Owen Coyle leave if Celtic come calling.
Whelan appointed Coyle in the summer.
Asked if he imagined the FAI contacting him about Coyle replacing Giovanni Trapattoni, he said: “You never know.
“One thing he said to me when I gave him the job was ‘If Celtic ever come in I want the job at Celtic’. That’s one thing I respect.”
Hmmmm….blog broken? Or, a no news day?
Skyislandfill at 1.55
Very sorry to hear about your recent loss.
HH
Morning all. Grey down here.
Hope there’s joy in the hearts of every Celtic supporter this morning.
Any good news (for us) about their interfering with the workings of the HMRC?
Morning all
Anybody know anything about the Hootsman article about yesterday’s games that was pulled early this morning and replaced by something more “suitable”?
Much the same as their recent “Celtc sneak into CL groups” thing 10 days ago…
Have TRFC quietly agreed to withdraw their “most successful club” campaign?
http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudications.aspx?SearchTerms=rangers#2
whitedoghunch
22:59 on 8 September, 2013
amazing funds raised for future research and patients today.
Thought Stan milked it a bit after all is he not cured and that is in his past ?
The footballers ego.
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What an appalling thing to say. No, Stan is not cured, he is in remission.
“The footballers ego” ?????????? What is that supposed to mean? He is a young man who has been afflicted by a terrible illness in his prime. He has a lovely wife and two young kids. He has been through a lot and must be worried sick about his/their future.
Your post is possible one of the worst I’ve ever read on CQN.
Top of the morning to you all from a still, grey, Fife.
Paul the BBC will have to shut the doors as the title of this article states because they have issued an apology for any offence caused to those sensitive Sevconians by Jim Spence’s remarks!
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/bbc-says-sorry-over-spences-rangers-comments.22092189
We might have expected better, but then we should have known better.
theoriginalsadiesbhoy
08:59 on 9 September, 2013
whitedoghunch
22:59 on 8 September, 2013
$$$$$
You can only imagine that this poster was bladdered and reverted to his teenage years and decided to be ‘controversial’ or you may conclude he’s a tit.
67 @ 8.49
I think some of the Media Ludge brethren are always trying to win the weekly competition.
That is who can diss our club the most in print / radio / TV.
Given their numbers and their hurt the competition is intense.
Consequently sly digs and partial reporting are not enough.
You have to do it so full on to have a chance that mainstream opinion has started to notice.
They — the middle class / CoS / malt + slippers / golf + egg chaser types — now have to do something for the credibility of their own positions. The TFOD2 mentalists have given up trying to hide it, which is good as we start to see them as they really are.
A good CL campaign — Big nights / big stories / big headlines — and the Samaritans Scottish media branch will be doing overtime.
If you have a screen dump of the article please post it.
Next up would be a letter to the editor.
Big Nan
09:11 on 9 September, 2013
The problem for the BBC is that they are hamstrung by an earlier decision by the BBC Trust
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-22951447
My reading is that the BBC don’t agree with that decision but can’t say so publicly.
The ‘apology’ they have issued is hardly that, and is the very least they could get away with standing the BBC Trust decision.
There’s journalistic principles at stake here and I’m not sure the BBC will be content to let matters lie.
Owen Coyle trying to worm his way back in to Celtic thoughts.
Better candidtaes IMO.
We where not good enough first time and refused to take the chance as he thought he could get better in the “Barclay Card Premiership”
Yep, Mowbray never worked out but at least he never knocked us back and took the challenge even although it was too big for him. To be fair he is rep was just as high as Coyle at the time at West Brom.
Has Jim Spence resigned yet?
WDH 22.59
I note that you made an additional post stating that you made a mistake stating Stan was cured.
What you haven’t done is apologise for for the outrageous slander that you placed at Stan’s feet.
Not for the first time you have made what is a bitter, heartless post on here.
We had several weeks of it against the valiant efforts of “The bringing Martin Home” committee .
That was a few years ago now, and I had hoped that you had personally found yourself in a better place.
Last night’s post was absolutely heartless.
Please show everyone that it was just a drunken blip.
One that we are all capable of when have had one too many.
God forbid that the thoughts you expressed came in a moment of sobriety.
I know that you have a great deal of goodness in you.
Please show some humility and apologise for your outrageous slander on Stan.
Your friend in Celtic .
TT
ernie lynch
09:20 on 9 September, 2013
Big Nan
09:11 on 9 September, 2013
The problem for the BBC is that they are hamstrung by an earlier decision by the BBC Trust
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Thanks for the link, I understand the BBC’s position now. Basically we are dealing with semantics about old, dead, club, etc.
However the credibility of the BBC Trust is shot to pieces when their head, Lucy Adams, has admitted (in effect) telling parliament a bare-faced lie about her knowledge of pay-offs and e-mails that she composed.
She is lucky in that she is leaving next year, presumably with a generous package like the one she sorted for her chums!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23985032
It is enough to make you stop paying the licence fee. Or not start to as the case may be.
I know it’s a long shot, but anybody know anywhere in Shanghai that might be showing the game on Saturday?
Will check later for any suggestions cheers.
God forbid you should ever find yourself in need of help from others.
Hopefully you don’t come across someone who think it’s their right to decide who comes to them seeking help.
Morning all
what a day in Paradise yesterday!
Who else can bring this kind of crowd and backing to a football ground for one of their own in need?
Im so glad i went sat with total strangers during the game and ended up with tearfull hugs at the end after YNWA and watching Stan the Mhan soaking up the applause from the best in the world whilst having his family involved in the celebrations of Stans victory over cancer,that scene with his son running to him..offft not a dry eye in the land..would love to know how those who played felt after their new experience in Paradise..just never ceases to amaze me..just to be part of this Celtic family on special days like that sums up everything that we all love about our unique club and i owe it all to my dad tommy up there in heaven…miss and love him so much h.h