Tomorrow’s Annual General Meeting of the Scottish Premier League is set to be the third great football meeting in the last two weeks. The Prophet of Armageddon, chief executive Neil Doncaster, will face his shareholders and either have to declare he was being truthful when he told them, and Scottish Football League clubs, the SPL would be unable to fulfil their contractual obligations if Sevco were denied a place in the First Division, or that this was a cunning ruse designed to manipulate clubs and fans alike.
Doncaster was surely encouraged by some in the SPL to adopt his confrontational stance but support from SPL clubs was certainly not universal. No representatives from Celtic participated in any meetings or conversations regarding the contents of the presentation made to SFL clubs, nor was the club informed or consulted on it.
Well done to the Aberdeen fans who kicked off the Sell-out Saturday initiative. They hope to sell-out Pittodrie for their 11 August game and want to as many fans as possible to buy season tickets. The idea has been picked up by clubs throughout the league.
I get the feeling that if supporters groups got together we could use this unique moment, when camaraderie among fans coincided with unparalleled fan power over the clubs, to define a framework for the game we wanted, not something a dreamt up by a Norfolk MBA.
Even if we couldn’t get every fan group pulling in the same direction, a few productive bilateral relationships is all it takes to establish an powerful pressure group.
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THE EXILED TIM on 15 July, 2012 at 20:12 said:
There is a difference between being fit and being match fit, or match ready. If they were the same, then Usain Bolt wouldnt have to run warm up races before the olympics – he would just turn up and expect to win. Doesnt work that way
shimmies33
At this point we are not out of the CL!
At this point we have time to buy/sell which could be significant.
ie Ki for £7,000,000 to QPR would, IMO, be good business for the club and could create funds for a major purchase or two.
I know your good heart is in the right place and all I can ask is that you be patient.
I am not pointing the finger at the club right now because i have no reason to.
In Celtic Football Club I trust.
Kevtic
Who are Raith, falkirk or Clyde playing???
shimmies
I agree that Glenn Loovens was in great form during our run-in. I wondered where he had been hiding that for before as he was either finally putting in a bit of effort to get a new contract with us or he was trying to attract a new club with his form. Over all his contract, he was a disappointing contributor to our cause. Like Macjay, this morning, I think calling him Glenda was inaccurate. it was not his heart that was in question rather his uber-cool dwelling on the ball and his willingness to be over-confident he could deal with a bouncing ball rather than head it clear, that made me worry about him.
Every year we have the same problem with transfers in. We can get players in early, only if we are bidding for players that no-one else wants or we are willing to pay over the odds to get him early. I think we need to play the transfer window wisely but, if a club is unwilling to sell because they want to see who will match or exceed Celtic’s offer, then we have to let that condition work to our benefit. We could already have freed Murphy to Ipswich but, by holding out, we might get a £250k bid for him, that would go someway to funding another transfer in. A better example might be not selling Ki to the Russians for £6m when we fetch £7 or £7.5m a month or two later.
The downside is we might not get Jordan Rhodes (or other) meantime or we might lose out altogether but that is an inevitable risk you face with every transfer decision. Paying 10% more than you need to on every player we buy whilst taking a bath on players we sell is the road to ruin. We need the patience of fans when we are buying and we might need to trust to this team being able to overcome the first qualifying hurdle without our new bling.
One thing I am fairly sure of is that we will have a new CB whether we sell anyone. We are, after all, one Fojut down on what we expected to have. I doubt we will leave that unrectified.
Vmhan,
agreed, I can see only one non financial advantage in accepting the tie and that is to try and get the team used to working on the hop, aclimatising and finding out which players recover best from the upheval. However I honestly dont believe this had even been considered , its simply an exercise in greed.
As for the consideration given to the support, what from the same people who labelled us offensive, regardless of the current issues, we are still nothing more than a money pig to be used as they see fit, never kid yourself they have any respect for the support. They are parasites living off us.
viva le revolution :o)
sftb
I don’t believe we have a god given right to get into the CL group stages, but I believe we should give ourselfs a better chance than we are giving ourselfs.
I can’t recall using the word disgrace either, not a word that is in my volcabulary when talking about our players or coaches, tis a word I will use when talking about the suits though :>)
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Celtforlife.
Aye, ok 100% is a bit OTT, but making excuses for players when they have had a couple of weeks off is wholly wrong imo.
friendly games are to get fitness levels up ,but have to say lenny will have to get rid of players that he has brought to the club.2 for starters, murphy and kelvin wilson,should have kept cha and mark wilson.cant understand him allowing them 2 players to leave the club.
Just got a report on the game from me buddy and was told we had a great workout at a good pace.
I come on here and it’s teaming with wee lassies throwin’ their handbags about. Was NOT expecting that one! :)))
Books
leftclicktic on 15 July, 2012 at 20:26 said:
That was an interesting statement from ICT according to the Sunday Hun they are one of five clubs going into admin within the next 5 weeks!
More bull from the SM
Bookies Pen……
……you must be new to this site then!
:0)
Prestonpans bhoys
If these clubs that are facing administration were a bit more proactive than reactive they would be doing a whole lot better financially.
We lost? I’m in the “love to win but don’t care if we lose a preseason game” camp
TET
I am fairly sure you did not use the word disgrace. Not all of my post was intended directly for you.
Apologies if you thought I was making that assertion.
I thought your points were well made and fair but I disagreed with some of them.
Neil Lennon is (and always will be) a Celtforlife (*O*) on 15 July, 2012 at 20:30
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CLYDE are away
11/08/2012
Montrose
SL3 3pm.
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RAITH ROVERS at home
IRN-BRU Scottish First Division
Raith Rovers V Hamilton
11/08/2012 15.00
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FALKIRK are away
IRN-BRU Scottish First Division
Partick Thistle V Falkirk
11/08/2012 15.00
HAIL HAIL
Vmhan
Unfortunatly money is more important now than it ever was.
Mr Kelly said that TV would destroy the game, how right he was, he should have included the SFA when he said that as well :>)
The only answer is to get out and into a league where the money matches the ambitions of the support.
Does anyone know what time the SPL AGM starts tomorrow?
In case I need to go for a sh*te.
Maybe we should be scared about the form of that team Sevco.
They have not conceded a goal yet in all their pre-season games.
Philbhoy – It’s just the beginning! on 15 July, 2012 at 20:37 said:
You’d get that impression…
Sadly, it’s become a tradition EVERY pre-season since CQN began, and before.:))))
Pens
TET
I agree with you that our future lies outwith these borders.
But…..who will have us?
Are our chances of escape enhanced by the demise of the shameless?
Bookies Pen….
….in Celtic I trust!
The results of pre season friendly games are irrelevant and offer no insight as to how a team will perform when the season kicks off proper
Remember the Wembley Cup? We won that and our proper season was a disaster
The only game that counts is the CL qualifier on Aug 1st. Having looked at who we can draw in the 3rd Round, if we can’t beat any of those sides with the squad we have at the moment, then we are in a sorry state
setting free the bears on 15 July, 2012 at 20:44 said:
Nor, apparently, have they had a free kick given against them, or had anyone booked. If this correct, then it reinforces my thoughts that every referee is a hun and our board should be pursuing this in the most vigourous fashion.
SFTB
Fair post re situation.
It is a huge expectation to get through 2 tough qualifiers against teams just as commited to get to CL group stage.
We need to really get behind the team from the outset this season.
Idiots who think that our paltry transfer warchest means we can ‘call the shots’ rather than pick up the scraps in the transfer market are as deluded as those who lapped up Murray and the MSM’s utterances over the other side for 26 years.
Hopefully the support will realise how tought this early season assignment is and back the team. Hopefully they will not think turning up will win us the league as they did under WGS either…..
Its 11 v 11 and the crowd can be the 12th man or can detract from our efforts. I hope it is more of the former this season.
gscbhoy
I do understand that there is a huge difference being match fit and just fit.
My argument is about the seemingly complete lack of fitness that some posters are making for the players after a couple of weeks off, when all it should take is a few bounce games, that I imagine they have had already during training to get back to peak and be able to beat a third division team who’s players wouldn’t or shouldn’t get a look in with a team that is trying to qualify for the CL in a couple of weeks.
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No tis me who should be apologising, I should have trusted that you read my posts, and was referring to others posts.
We will have to agree to disagree I suppose :>)
Philbhoy – It’s just the beginning! on 15 July, 2012 at 20:40 said:
Agree and operating with a busness model that does not rely on TV or games against them would help.
Vmhan:
Regards the game in the states ‘hearts and minds’, ‘brand profile’, ‘brand reputation’, ‘cultural impregnation’, ‘Christmas shopping for the wives and kids’?
Guys guys guys, CALM DOON it was only a training excercise. Incidentally, as I’ve documented well on here, since retirement, I honestly don’t know how the hell I had time to work. Talk about being busy?? Anyways, back to the game. We MUST assess the players, but not on one game, to see if their fitness levels are to be at peak for the challenges ahead. Like us, they relax and enjoy themselves while on holiday.
Weefra HH
Fholks….
What you now have to come to terms with is that rangers are gone. There is no longer the need to worry about that argument with you rangers friends and colleagues over who is having the better pre-season. :)
Chillax :)))
Books
I’m in the “Whatever the score, whatever you do, don’t get injured in a tackle or pull a Hammy in a pre-season game” camp.
Philbhoy
I think our chances are greatly increased now that the huns are no longer.
Who would have us, who knows, I think the sfa will be gone soon enough and we will be under the engish umbrella, that will do for me.
Just logged in and have read only the lead article, but, for the record, just want to mention I bought a double-seat (no discount) Ross County season ticket last week after Roy voted no to Newco in the SPL.
Would also like to mention for the record……that action was not influenced by anything I read on this website
TET
Yep, anywhere in England would be good, however, the Antlantic league right now would be brill!
Is that one a pipe dream? (copywrite MWD)
‘I told my wife that I found black underwear very sexy…she didn’t wash my y-fronts for a month!’ Chic Murray
We will qualify for the group stages of the Champion’s League.
No problem.
Also i wouldn’t bet against us progressing to the knock-out stages.
Sixteen roads to Golgotha
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More power to your keyboard!
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oldgold says:
15/07/2012 at 2:59 pm
Rangers will be in the SPL by the end of the week with no sanctions if not sooner, I am sure you will get over it.
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You and your type make me sick.
A short story about sporting integrity.
My uncle was a professional boxer in New York in the 1950s, inspired by our relative Gene Tunney, he made a good living from boxing and loved it, but it was a crooked game and he gave it up when threatened and offered a bribe to throw a fight……….he remained a decent, gentle man and was the typical American success story, penniless immigrant made good.
He was fiercely proud of his Irish roots and the achievements of the Irish in America, he lived in Long Island City, just over the 59th Street Bridge from Manhattan. On a visit there in the 1980s he took me to the nearby site of Celtic Park, named after the Glasgow stadium and the home of the pre eminent American athletics club before the first world war, the Irish American Athletics Club.
IAAC members won numerous Olympic gold medals between 1900 and 1924, most were of Irish stock, but my uncle was most proud of the fact that it was a genuinely open club, unlike the Ivy League and old money WASP clubs that dominated the amateur sport of the time. In fact its main rival, the New York Athletics Club, banned Jews and African Americans well into the 1960s.
The first Jewish American to win an Olympic medal was Myer Prinstein in the triple jump of 1900, at the time he was competing for Syracuse University. A Methodist institution, its members were banned from competing on a Sunday. Prinstein was favourite, but withdrew from the long jump final in accordance with his club’s religious convictions, to find that the gold medal was won by a Christian US teammate. He later joined the IAAC and as a member won both the long and triple jump gold medals at the 1904 Olympics.
The first African American to win an Olympic gold was also an IAAC member, John Baxter Taylor Jnr. He was part of the 4×400 metres gold medal team at the 1908 Olympics in London. In the four man individual 400 metres final he came 4th, but the American winner was disqualified for an alleged infringement on the sole British runner and the race was ordered to be re-run. Despite a guaranteed medal, Taylor and his compatriot, because of what the US team saw as a home town decision, were told not to compete and the British athlete won an uncontested race.
Now then Jack, Leggo or whatever your feckin name is, when your great grandchildren are writing up the achievements of Rangers in 100 years time, what do you want them to say? We won it fair and square because we had the best team, or look at us how clever we are, we outwitted the Tims?
Prinstein and Taylor are heroes in the US, and more so because they agreed to sacrifice their personal ambitions only to be hoodwinked by the establishment……….
But who was the real winner?
I think with the current state of Scottish football Celtic need the security of the proposed transfer of Ki for 7 Million before they spend any more big money.RememberBhoys we have already bought big Fraser for 2 Million and we have not encouraged any bids for big Victor we have to be realistic in these austere times.H.H.
On that positive note, good night and God bless all.
Thoughts and prayers with young Connors family and friends at this tough time.
God bless.