Tomorrow’s Annual General Meeting of the Scottish Premier League is set to be the third great football meeting in the last two weeks. The Prophet of Armageddon, chief executive Neil Doncaster, will face his shareholders and either have to declare he was being truthful when he told them, and Scottish Football League clubs, the SPL would be unable to fulfil their contractual obligations if Sevco were denied a place in the First Division, or that this was a cunning ruse designed to manipulate clubs and fans alike.
Doncaster was surely encouraged by some in the SPL to adopt his confrontational stance but support from SPL clubs was certainly not universal. No representatives from Celtic participated in any meetings or conversations regarding the contents of the presentation made to SFL clubs, nor was the club informed or consulted on it.
Well done to the Aberdeen fans who kicked off the Sell-out Saturday initiative. They hope to sell-out Pittodrie for their 11 August game and want to as many fans as possible to buy season tickets. The idea has been picked up by clubs throughout the league.
I get the feeling that if supporters groups got together we could use this unique moment, when camaraderie among fans coincided with unparalleled fan power over the clubs, to define a framework for the game we wanted, not something a dreamt up by a Norfolk MBA.
Even if we couldn’t get every fan group pulling in the same direction, a few productive bilateral relationships is all it takes to establish an powerful pressure group.
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Vmhan
I appreciate your concerns but the profile the club gains from being invited to play the likes of Real Madrid and Inter in friendlies shouldnt be underestimated.
Turn these invitations down and theyll very quickly dry up.
Sixteen roads to Golgotha-I was hoping for a couple of new bhoys to go on pre-season tour :{,not sure who will play up front though I would find a place for Commons as he is one of our few creative players IMO.HH.
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St Stivs
This season will be hard to call.
Who on earh will the Scottish referees favour?
I’m not fooled by any of this, I want CFC out of it ……. Or the whole lot of them sacked and start afresh, a clean sweep of inept, self serving Huns.
St Stivs et al G’night amigos!
HH
Ghents
I’d be surprised if we buy before we sell
I’d also be surprised if we have a net spend , unless we qualify for the CL group stages
Vmhan on 15 July, 2012 at 21:48 said:
I understand and accept what you are saying mate.It’s just difficult for the club to knock that kind of money back at this stage of the game.
It is vital that we qualify for these group stages,the Madrid game is the last thing we need,really.I guess that we are just hedging our bets.The $1million is guaranteed.Please God it doesn’t cost us the £15million that qualification to the CL group stages will generate.
If our wee team plays to the best of it’s abilities,we can dispose of any of those sides that we are due to face.
It’s all in the hands of our players and their manager.
60,000 Celtic fans will also have their say in the home legs.
COYBIG
Vmhan
I think the MIB will stick it tous again this season
With Huns like Murray,Thomson et al …and soup takers like Collum ….I m not expecting anything else
I’m in the canny stand getting beat in any game including pre season camp.
Claims emerging tonight that Ibrox has no buildings or public liability insurance. How funny would that be???
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Jabba
vmhan 21.48
It would make sense,if our marketing department,came up with a viable follow up,on our visit to the States,but all we hear is that the game/s is worth £1m to the club.
If we were on the ball,we should be making 5/10m per year ,after our visits,someone is sitting on their hands,doing nothing.
We are being told we are a “BRAND” but are not capitalising on it.Slan.
There was a day when we didnt play friendlies, only in it to win it, TET’s source of frustration I believe.
Can see it all now.
Excerpt from Ally’s new book: rangers the downfall….
I had a sneaky feeling that things weren’t going well the day after HMRC rejected the CVA deal, but it wasn’t until Jimmy Bell came to my new cold, damp, basement office in tears and told me that Green wouldn’t agree to buy towels for the players, that I realised that something really wasn’t right. Still couldn’t put my finger on it though.
The penny finally dropped as I drive the bus back from our third defeat that season, away to Brechin….
:)
As much as I enjoy reading all the newco stuff, one post last night made for different reading. A real life story (22.45) about a bad experience. I dare say many tims can tell a tale along the same lines.
I’m 57 and still cant figure them out and I mean that.
Forty years ago next month I started an engineering apprenticeship with Templetons carpet factory in Bridgeton (some will know it). The only reason I got the job was because the company had been bought over by an English multi-national conglomerate and they had an English HR manager, who didnt ask what school I went to.
Anyway I walked into a machine shop August 72 and the place was decked out in red white and blue. They’d won the ECWC in Barcelona the previous May and the bunting was still there. From the moment I walked in the door I was looked on with suspicion. I dont have an Irish name but by lunchtime they’d found me out.
I spent the following year feeling like how a black must have felt in Alabama 1950. First day I was told to wash my hands in a certain sink. Everything was made as awkward as possible. I was called taig, fenian, tarrier, you name it. My locker was painted red white and blue with a union jack on top. I reported it to the boss who laughed at me and told me to ‘paint it fkn green and white if it makes you happy’.
At one point after a couple of weeks I said to these guys that my best mates were Rangers fans. I was brought up in a street in Castlemilk where it was 50/50. To this day they are still my dearest mates and I certainly wont be mentioning Newco etc as I wouldnt hurt them. Anyway forty years ago it all fell on deaf ears. I was victimised as a 16/17 year old and it was horrible. Nothing physical, but mental torture.
But there’s a twist. Three or four Rangers fans in that place could not have been nicer. One of them was the late Bobby McKean who went on to play for them. He was about 3 years older than me and kind of took me under his wing, sticking up for me at every turn.
I could easily have told my old man about the crap I was putting up with in that place. He ran about the Gorbals with a bunch of mates who would have sorted it out. The only reason I couldnt tell him was because the good guys were at risk. I told him years later.
In a way my point is this. There are many decent Rangers fans out there who will not be in denial, who dont go to orange walks, who are married to Celtic supporters or have Celtic supporting sons and daughters. The sad reality is the fact that the bigots among them are the loudest and what makes it worse, they are tolerated, not just by their own, but by the authorities who refuse to aknowledge them as a blight on Scottish society.
We keep hearing that the bigotry is not as bad as it used to be. I disagree. Forty years ago it was just like Alabama in some Glasgow factories. The bigotry and hatred was borne out of ignorance more than anything in those days. There is no excuse in 2012. Modern multimedia has given everyone access to every aspect and facet of history and the modern world.
I watched the Bomber Brown clip on youtube outside ibrox last week. He stood there coming across as a ned in a suit, with shouts of ‘no surrender’ prompting him. Very different from Brian Dempsey 18 years previous. It made me think that they have’nt moved with the times, or maybe they just refuse to do so.
hh
the long wait is over on 15 July, 2012 at 21:52 said:
Vmhan
I appreciate your concerns but the profile the club gains from being invited to play the likes of Real Madrid and Inter in friendlies shouldnt be underestimated.
Turn these invitations down and theyll very quickly dry up.
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I know you appreciate my concerns but if our club ignore the wishes of the support at CP then it’s good short term gain for a loss when the CP get fed up with it, as I say just my opinion and I’m a bit old skool about 3pm Sat games.
Offski
HH
canamalar
Aye, nail on the head mi amigo.
I play a fair bit of golf, and every time I go on the course I play to win, and I still get pissed off if I don’t win, in fact, the older I get the more determined to win I get,
I would imagine that profesional footballers want to win as well,no matter who they are playing, their pride should see to that.
Get the players back a couple of weeks earlier, make sure we hit the ground running re the qualifiers.
My grandson is over in South Korea playing for Scotland in the youth Olympics and play Ireland 2 morro in the semi’. Beat Russia,Pakistan,and Switzerland on the way. They played Greece today and beat them 6-4 in a very hard game. 2 players sent off. Greeks were putting the boot in all over the place according to my “angelic” grandson.
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!!Bada Bing!! on 15 July, 2012 at 21:53 said:
Indeed.It is slightly disappointing.Maybe any new recruiting depends on the sale of Ki?
As i have stated already – it’s a pity for Lenny,when one looks back at how MON,WGS and Mogga to a lesser extent were bank-rolled by the board,poor Lenny has spent pittance in comparison.He has just been unlucky getting the gig when times are hard financially.
One thing i can say is this – Should Lenny do the business,and get us to the group stages – the funds will then be made available,and our great club shall once again begin to realise it’s true potential.
We are THE Celtic!
When the Celtic ST supporters get fed up with it ……..
Vmhan,
gonnae no call the board the club, its no right, they did not represent the support against the charges made by the police last season.
I’d rather be playing real madrid in anger, who cares if offers of frendlies dry up, honestly, as long as we’re competitive we’ll get invites, if we’ve started to play frendlies for fun we wont stay competitive.
in it to win it.
kitalba on 15 July, 2012 at 21:37 said:
Okay, I give up, how do they do it? No matter how many times Gordon Smith is on the telly I just can’t see the strings. Special effects these days?!
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I but on friday night on STV you could see his bad hair job (at the back)made me smile anyway:))))
Smith Bomber Goram Jabba Stating their case THEY ARE DOOMED A TELL YE DOOMED :)))
Marrakesh Express on 15 July, 2012 at 22:07 said:
My Dad had a very similar experience. He was the first Catholic ever to get an apprenticeship with the company he got his first job with. Only difference is it came to blows. What helped him was that he knocked the head bully boy flying with a lucky punch and the rest looked on stunned. Luckily the manager was a forward thinking guy and got it all sorted out.
He had several jobs over the years and retired in the 80s. Not one single place he worked did he not meet some kind of bigotry, but at the same time I remember all his best mates from work were rangers fans and I only remember them being really nice guys when they came to the house, or we went to visit.
Bookies
Since it’s a closed meeting tomorrow, could PL not just headbutt The Donkey and walk straight back out..?…job done and fair comment on our behalf.
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fanadpatriot on 15 July, 2012 at 22:02 said:
vmhan 21.48
It would make sense,if our marketing department,came up with a viable follow up,on our visit to the States,but all we hear is that the game/s is worth £1m to the club.
If we were on the ball,we should be making 5/10m per year ,after our visits,someone is sitting on their hands,doing nothing.
We are being told we are a “BRAND” but are not capitalising on it.Slan.
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Marketing ? …what’s that ?
Our marketing ingenuity consists of a free ‘exclusive’ T shirt worth £13.99, if you buy xxxxx. In fairness, it does make a change from giving away highlight videos from 2 seasons prior.
Methinks , Celtic might need a wee bit more flair and imagination if they are to conquer the US market
setting free the bears on 15 July, 2012 at 21:28 said:
toibhoy
“Phuket Bawdeep Loyal RSC”
Is that for real?
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the next village has ‘Bawdeep N’Sheet Loyal RSC’
Marrakesh Express
While you are on.
I remember you referred to making a foreign trip in 1967 with your Castlemilk primary school after our Big Cup win.
Did you go to Belgium with St. Dominic’s RCP?
miki67 on 15 July, 2012 at 22:24 said:
That would be totally unprofessional.
I’d kick him in the jewels.
Clashcitybhoy
The club don’t have a clue when it comes to marketing imo.
I offered them hand made personalised goods, made by myself, that are not on the market antwhere, there were interested, as long as I paid them about 3k a year for the privalage.
How to cut your nose off……
celtic lost a bounce game against a 3rd division german team tonight, nothing to worry about in my eyes. physical fitness and match fitness are entities that collerate but they are different. am sure that the players return physically able to run ten miles but that does not mean they can just go onto a pitch and pick up were they left off. match fitness is more about sharpness, quickness, touch, quich changes of direction etc… many aspects seperate from being in a good physical health/ condition.
transfers: we could have signed 50 players by now, if we so wished, but if they are no better than what we have its a complete waste of time. better players will have other options, i am in the camp, if they are no better then we should stay well clear.
reaching the next level by spending money on players to get you into the CL is a myth, unless you can afford their wages outwith CL participation because its too risky. see rangers for further details, more investment is required with regards other parts of our club.
matchday should be seen as a full day outing not a 2 hour visit. how many fans do we see in and about glasgow spending their hard earned in shops/ pubs/ cafe etc… before coming to the stadium, this is often repeated after the games as well. i bet most fans spend more attending the games than they do for the tickets they have over the course of the season.
as a celtic fan i would rather give that money to my club, but guess what i cant because the club have nothing to offer in this area unless i decide to book a table, non-match day, how does that nake sense, i would make a conservative guess celtic could make 5 million profit every season from offering these add ons which would be assured.
celtic are a massive brand with worldwide appeal yet the facilities around the stadium are bad to say the least, visit the museum, oops we dont have one, buy a snack after the second rate tour and have a drink oops cant do that we dont have one and after the tour why dont you treck over to the super store (shoebox) and buy some goods, but we dont provide unbrella’s!!!!!!! get this in order and we would see more profit and more exposure to our visitors (we need a seemless tour that goes through the stadium, into the museum, into the superstore then into the cafe/ restuarant (we need to get the basics right)
we have a massive fan base from all over the world. we have others with celtic sympathy or leanings, we have fans that travel and stay in hotels/ B&B’s all over glasgow, tourism continues to increase in scotland, were is celtic’s drive into this area of business, my god the commenwealth games is trnasforming the east end with massive investment over the coming years, celtic need to get onto it as well. i read somewhere the population in the east end is set in increase by 20,000 thousand over the coming years, into private homes, surely that is new opportunity for celtic to develop strong ties/ community enagement to increase potential revenue.
guys on here will talk about celtic t.v. media/ membership etc… and the fact that lots of opportunities exist, i sometimes think celtic lets itself down in such areas.
buying players in the hope of competing in the CL is a gamble not worth taking, we have an opportunity over the next 4 years to get all these things addressed without the need to worry about rangers spending money they dont have an winning the league.
its time to change the way we think
If you haven’t watched the film FORMOSA BETRAYED, then watch it ……. Unbelievable ……..!!!! (it’s on Sky Premier / Anytime …….)
Clashcitybhoy 22.26
Sadly you are correct,our marketing department should be in the States ,after the game/s,to follow up on the positive impact we make.HH
1980’s TV inspired theme for tomorrows SPL meeting – Drop the Dead Donkey
TET,
We have aspirations to be a big club, but , the incident tonight when our official channel ran a stream of the game from a German TV channel, with a German commentary, says it all.
I think that a number of the multimedia crew do a decent job of engaging with fans and customers, but, they are hopelessly out of their depth, and tonight’s events emitomised that.
Off to Amsterdam on Friday .The boys 16th birthday treat !!Any other CQN bods there?
THE EXILED TIM on 15 July, 2012 at 22:30 said:
That’s how it’s done. They were doing you a favour. 3K PA and you keep ALL the profit!!!
A guy I worked with paid top dollar for the right to sell merchandise at the big venues around Glasgow. I can’t remember how much it was but I remember being taken aback and I’m sure it would have added up to a lot more than 3K PA.
He made a fortune!!!!
Pen
Timbhoy2
Cha could not defend and Wilson, great servant, injury prone!
Just in from the pub after watching the Stuttgart debacle. Now before anyone attacks me, I know it was a friendly, I know the result does not matter, and I know it is pre-season.
But, and, and it is a large but, we were simply dreadful, with not one shot on goal, not one single piece of skill in the whole game, no pace, no ball control, no midfield ability, no build up, no effort, and a complete inability to find a team mate with a pass. Many players found it difficult even to stay vertical. So what did we do today for the brand “Celtic?” Absolutely nothing. Simply put, we were utterly, shockingly abysmal, a total embarrassment. Remember, this is a third division team, not Aax, or Real Madrid.
I watched Portland against Los Angeles last night. Portland have 18 months of history, versus our 124 years. 6 goals in 45 minutes, and it could easily have been 12 .
Boyd and Beckham take free kicks during the game, every one on target, three of which result in goals. Commons takes one ( and I assume he practices) – it goes into orbit. Why has he not eradicated that in practice? How many times did he do that last year? If he is our best free kick expert, we are in trouble.
Wilson? Shocking. Blackman? Taxi. Murphy? Total waste of space. Did Hooper even touch the ball?
I know that friendlies bear little correlation to the real thing, but every pre -season, Celtic look distinctly amateurish. In an equivalent contest last night, Reading went to Wimbledon, scored 7 goals, then relaxed.
Answer honestly, did we ever remotely look like scoring? Today, if the 3rd division Germans, or their substitutes, had some composure, we would have been drubbed 5-0
O.K. Tin helmet now on.
Iniquitous.
Perspective.
Just take a wee look around yous.Look at the state of a lot of the other clubs,not just in Scotland,but in England as well.Jesus only knows,i want us to win everything,the CL included.It takes time though,and i live in hope that it will happen again one day.
I can recall a post on here last week – from a certain poster,whom idolised the late Joe McBride,well the guy claimed,and he was probably correct,that Joe was a better striker than Henke himself.
The poster in question made the point,and it was so true – “You have to remember,that,at that time,we were the best in the world.” Yip we were once the greatest club side on the planet,and that fact really hit home.I read thousands upon thousands of post on this magnificent website,but that one stuck in my mind,and it will always be there.
The huns are dead and gone,even in our wildest dreams we could never have imagined that scenario has came to pass.
The CFC is still here,maybe we are not thriving,but we are still in relatively good health,in comparison to a lot of the rest.I am happy and content with our lot just now.
It sure does feel good to be a Tim.