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  1. lionroars67 on

    by ANDREW SMITH

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Published on the28 July

     

    2013

     

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    CELTIC last night moved to deny reports that they had made bids for Sunderland winger James McClean and Porto wide man Christian Atsu.

     

     

     

    Yesterday afternoon, speculation was rife that the Parkhead club had had a £2.5 million offer accepted for Republic of Ireland internationalist McClean and had launched a £5m move for Atsu.

     

     

    But a club spokesman issued a categorical “no” when the names of both players were put as possibles for the wildcard signing that Neil Lennon is allowed to bring in before Wednesday’s Champions League qualifier at home to Elfsborg as he seeks to bolster his squad following the loss of leading goalscorer Gary Hooper to 
Norwich in a £5.2m deal which went through on Friday.

     

     

    And, after Celtic had been beaten 2-1 at home by Borussia Moenchengladbach in a friendly at Celtic Park, coach Garry Parker – stepping up to take the team with Lennon off watching Elfsborg drawing 1-1 at Åtvidaberg in the Allsvenskan – was tight-lipped over possible arrivals.

     

     

    “I’ve no idea,” he said when the names of McClean and Atsu were put to him. “We’ve got options, I’m not going to say who they are, but there are people we like. I’d say we’d like to sign another two or three – but that’s down to the manager. We have our sights on a few players and we’ll see what happens.”

     

     

    A crisp free-kick from striker Anthony Stokes puts him in pole position to perform the Hooper role in the absence of any new signings. The Irishman did not balk at the suggestion it could be his gig last night. “We’ve lost a great player and he was great lad around the club as well but at a club like this it

     

     

    happens and we have to move and other people have to take the burden and score goals.

     

     

    “I always try and score as many as possible but we are all going to have to dig in and over the last three or four years we have done that. We have plenty of players who can score goals, even from midfield like Kris Commons who gets you 15 to 20 goals a season.”

  2. Burghbhoy on

    Lionroar67

     

     

    Very interesting article .

     

    Definitely worth the watching.

     

    Had heard about the Celtic nation last year , in fact we had planned a trip on the Burgh CSC bus at some point.

     

    That may just be sometime soon.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  3. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    lionroars67, how you doin buddy.

     

     

    Great story and I think there might be something in it. They’ve asked me to play inside right when they reach the fifth tier. I better look oot the dubbin:-)

  4. gordybhoy64 on

    roy croppie,

     

    not sure how many you feel Balde will score?,

     

    I say he will score at least 15 league goals and I am looking for 5 people who don’t

     

    think he will score that many,with a £20 bet to the Kano foundation at stake,i have 3 taken me on so far,fancy a wee wager?

  5. kikinthenakas on

    a ceiler gonof rust

     

     

    Not sure, he is only 19 and been here for a good few years, think he is from reading but as far as I am aware he was picked up through schools football but not sure. Watched him develop, tough cookie, great speed and likes a tackle.

     

     

    Kikinthenakas

  8. BIG-CUP-WINNERS on

    A Ceiler Gonof Rust

     

     

    Fisher joined Celtic from a Reading based boys club, Eldon Celtic.

  12. Margaret McGill on

    BIG-CUP-WINNERS

     

     

    00:30 on 28 July, 2013

     

     

    No Fisher came from Farnborough

  13. lionroars67 on

    A Ceiler Gonof Rust

     

    00:26 on

     

    28 July, 2013

     

     

    Doing fine thanks ACGR, you sound in fine form

     

     

    we have been hearing Celtic working very hard behind the scenes at an exit plan to England timescale 2-3 years

     

     

    Ive been hitting form at the 5’s last few weeks, 55 is the new 35 0))) if they looking for a new striker…………..any boos i can always say ffs look at the KOK debut

  14. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    kikinthenakas, from our site:

     

     

    Darnell Fisher.

     

     

    “Celtic managed to tie up Darnel Fisher on his first professional contract in the summer of 2011. The English teenager played for Reading-based club, Eldon Celtic, before moving on to Farnborough. After that he impressed the Celtic coaches while he was on trial at the Hoops and went on to make the move permanent. He plays in central midfield, but has been used more consistently at right-back since doing well there last season.”

     

     

     

    We should look after this bhoy, he looks like a good’un.

  18. Burghbhoy on

    Teuchter

     

     

    A cracker at St Johnstone.

     

    A legend was born

     

    Truly the King of Kings

     

    Hail Hail brother

  19. gordybhoy64 on

    roy croppie,

     

    excellent,cheers for that,just one more to guarantee £100 for the Kano foundation

  20. kikinthenakas on

    a ceiler gonof rust

     

     

    Yip, going to the youth games, surprisingly you get a good chance to chat with the coaches and hear their instructions to the young bhoys, it’s brilliant…

     

    Chris McCart told one of the coaches a few years ago to tell Tony Watt to stop swearing at the ref….he scored 4 I think against Motherwell, but continued and was hooked…

     

     

    Jackson Irvine good on the ball….

     

     

    Enjoyed today, funny, my bhoy made a great point, he is 14, said we moan about young guys not getting a chance….then moan when they play…..top comment!

     

     

    Kikinthenakas

  23. Saint Stivs on

    Stevie Fulton. Fantastic young shammy player. His dad brilliant scorer. All his uncles very very good footballers.

     

     

    I know this as a fact.

     

     

    Neither Stephen or Michael kerr would have signed for rangers.

     

     

    McCann did.

     

     

    And he is a rat.

  24. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    Margaret McGill at 00.41……………………….Whaaaaaaaaaaha hahahaha.

     

     

    I knew there was a reason I asked you to marry me:-)

     

     

     

    You summed the hun up perfectly.

  25. gordybhoy64 on

    roy croppie,

     

    cheers pal,hope I win too :-))),was just fed up with people writing off Balde before

     

    he had even been given a decent chance,1 more to get now

  26. jjb on

    I’m surprised at criticism of players first touch at half time etc. I actually thought they were ok . Not that it means much.

  29. Clashcitybhoy on

    Kikinthenakas

     

    I watched Darnell Fisher today, and was wondering, what is it that prevents a young guy like this , who looked a good athlete, with good ball skills, and an ‘up for it’ attitude, pushing on to be a good quality club player.

     

    On reflection, I thought of Paul Lambert.

     

    Different position etc, but lets be honest , when Paul, left Motherwell, to join Dortmund, none of the Celtic fans were too bothered, that we had missed a great player. Indeed, Big Eck , whom I think is a diddly, suggested he would be homesick.

     

    As it turned out, Lambo was homesick, but a year in Dortmund, took a good athlete, with decent ball skills and Scottish competitiveness, and transformed him into , IMHO, a Celtic great.

     

    I sincerely hope Fisher turns out the same, but I can’t help think, that at 19 /. 20 , our , raw talent, is on a par(ish) with the Europeans, and, amongst other bits, the tactical awareness that Dortmund had today, is one of, the big missings?

  30. kikinthenakas on

    Clashcitybhoy

     

     

    I have been fortunate to be in Paul Lamberts company and had a chat about football and his experience. He told me managers thought he was too slight and was played as a winger and just behind a striker….went on trial and Hitzfeld told him he was a holding midfielder…played him there in some bounce games and signed him, but Lamborghini said the biggest thing Hitzfeld did for him was make him believe he was a player….gave him a role…showed him how to play it….something he had never experienced in Scotland…oh he had a chance to sign for deidco….never happened…35 yarder New Years game…3 Gorams could nae save it…his comment…good ghuy…

     

     

    Kikinthenakas

  31. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    kikinthenakas, your lad has a point but there’s a time to bring in the youth. So from a greedy bassa supporter perspective I’d rather we’d started a stronger team and introduced the youngsters gradually with sufficient time to make their mark among a team that is more settled…………………………………………….and hopefully winning.

     

     

    I just thought we started today with too weak a team to get involved in the match early, and we didn’t.

     

     

    I’ve no such fears for Wednesday, and the fun in the sun today will be a distant memory. We’re back to more serious matters and I cant wait to get back down there in hoops.

     

     

     

    Hail Hail

  35. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    Gordybhoy64, have you secured a pass oot for the next hootenanny?

     

     

    Let me know cos me and pedrocarvangeezwan67 were thinking of investing in a wee step ladder for the next time we met the bhoys from the vogue.

     

     

    My bro had a bad neck for a week after meeting you guys.

     

     

    He’s is a bit of a fanny right enough:-)

     

     

     

    Celtic.

  37. Fortunes Favour Mibbes on

    roy croppie

     

     

    Who signed Paul Lambert? He joined a team that needed an auld heid of experience and he double delivered.

     

     

    To imagine a midfield that includes the Maestro and PL is unthinkable now. At the time, it wasn’t enough to overcome the cheating, but what would?

     

     

    Tommy Burns made the 90s. And was cheated. I know you know this, but it needs to be said, innit.

  38. Fortunes Favour Mibbes on

    ACGR,

     

     

    :)) Naw, just been out with one of the most intelligent fellas I know who gives his time in retirement to fighting the cause of the workers. He’d wipe the floor with a lot the pseudo intellectuals who grace the internet with their adamant points of view on how we and the GB bring it all on ourselves.

     

     

    FWIW, after we dropped him off, I had to listen to the taxi driver go off on one after he was inspired.

     

     

    Such brilliant people are a dying breed, and are actively discouraged on this feckin blog of all placed !!! >:(((

     

     

    I shout out to Celtic First, Neg Anon and others. Keep saying it as it is. Unworthy muppetry should never stop you.

     

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61etFdGpXq8

     

     

    Love ye amigo :))) Look forward to the next pint or twelve :))

  40. Teuchter ár lá on

    Burghbhoy

     

    Sorry mate…Had to take twee Olivia for a wee trip roon’ the lake in the appropriately

     

    named HL – KOK.

     

    Aye bud St Johnstone it was – and never took his foot off the gas………Eh.

     

    Talkin’ of legends – Here’s one………..and a few of our own.

     

     

    Hail Hail operator

     

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2xBBop7kWo

     

    Teuchter ar la

  41. The Singing Detective Demands The Resignation Of Campbell Ogilvie on

    So,Farewell,Larry Grathwohl….

     

    Though Ah Didnae Know You Well….

     

     

    Gallant Vietnam Veteran…

     

    Who Infiltrated The Notorious American Marxist Terrorist Group..

     

     

    ‘The Weather Underground’…

     

     

    Way Back In The ’70s…

     

     

    A Violent And Murderous Anarchist Group….

     

    Wh

     

     

    Who Sought To Overthrow The Elected Government Of The USA

     

     

     

    And Lead By The Nefarious Married Couple,Bill Ayres & Bernadine Dohrn…

     

     

    [ Those Names Sound Kinda Familiar,TSD……Ed ]

     

     

     

    Outstanding….Ed ! A+ Effort…

     

     

    You’re Obviously One Of The Wise…..

     

     

    Oan This Sorry Blog….

     

     

    Yep…Bill Ayres,Now A Chicago University Professor…..

     

     

    And Long-Term Friend And Mentor,Of The Obamanation…

     

     

    Yep ! Obama’s Political Career Was Launched At A Gathering In Chez Ayres….

     

     

    Ayres Even Chaired A Foundation Committee,Which Awarded The ‘Community Organizer’,A Vast Grant To Fund His Political Campaigns…

     

     

    But It Doesn’t Stop There….

     

     

    Unapologetic Marxist Terrorist,Bill Ayres….

     

     

    Is Also The Ghost Author Of “Dreams Of My Father”…..

     

     

    The Book That Prez Autocue….

     

     

    Never Actually Wrote…

     

     

    Now Ye KNOW..!

     

    ~~~~~~~

     

    (From The American Spectator )

     

     

     

    RIP Larry Grathwohl, Weather

     

     

     

    Underground

     

     

     

     

    Posted by Paul Kengor on Friday Jul 26th at 5:08am

     

     

    Do you know the name “Larry Grathwohl”? You should. What he did and lived to tell was shocking, and shouldn’t be forgotten. Stick with me and read these words, and pass them along. Here are words about a man whose work and life merit your attention and that of your fellow Americans.

     

     

    Larry Grathwohl was a distinguished Vietnam vet who in the 1960s contacted the FBI and offered his services in infiltrating Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) and Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn’s Weather Underground. That was no small deal; it was extremely dangerous. It was a total self-sacrifice, a leap into hell on behalf of his country. He risked his life and endured some wretched things that most of us would refuse to do. For the good of his country, he became part of an ugly inner circle. He had to plunge into their dark side.

     

     

    

     

     

    Grathwohl ultimately blew the whistle on Ayers and Dohrn and crew in sworn testimony in the 1970s and (further) in his 1976 book, Bringing Down America: An FBI Informer with the Weathermen, plus numerous times since. He testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee on October 18, 1974, where he spoke at length, and under oath, about his relationship with Ayers and Dohrn, including how Dohrn personally (in Grathwohl’s words) “had to plan, develop, and carry out the bombing of the [park] police station in San Francisco.” In that tragic action by the Weather Underground in February 1970, a young San Francisco police officer named Brian V. McConnell was killed.

     

     

    When it was learned that Grathwohl was an informant, the Ivy League apparatchiks turned on him with a vengeance, posting his face on “WANTED” posters that they devised. Grathwohl was “wanted,” as it were, “for crimes against the people” as a “pig infiltrator.”

     

     

    Bear in mind, Grathwohl’s accusers were genuinely violent people who countenanced murder as part of their standard work. These were serious threats that caused much grief in his life.

     

     

    Nonetheless, Larry Grathwohl persevered. Before the U.S. Senate, Grathwohl bravely testified to the comrades’ willingness to kill innocents. He quoted Bill Ayers’ thoughts during a discussion on bombing a Red Barn restaurant: “We can’t protect all the innocent people in the world. Some will get killed. Some of us will get killed. We have to accept that.”

     

     

    For the record, Ayers and Dohrn never served a minute of jail time for any of this. They would go on to Ivy League grad programs, tenured positions in academia, books on “social justice,” and, of course, giving their political blessing to Barack Obama in a chilling send-off in their Chicago living room in 1995. Today, the husband and wife are self-described “Progressives for Obama.” Not a single day in prison. As Ayers later celebrated, “Guilty as hell, free as a bird!”

     

     

    If that makes you angry, consider this testimony from Larry Grathwohl, which he shared in a chilling 1982 documentary:

     

     

    Grathwohl recalled a meeting he attended with 25 leaders of the Weather Underground. At this strategy session, he pressed his comrades for some specifics as to how they planned to manage the massive social-political American reengineering project they all desired. Grathwohl recounted their response:

     

     

    I brought up the subject of what’s going to happen after we take over the government. You know, [once] we become responsible for administering, you know, 250 million people. And there was no answer. No one had given any thought to economics. How are you going to clothe and feed these people?

     

     

    The only thing that I could get was that they expected that the Cubans, the North Vietnamese, the Chinese, and the Russians would all want to occupy different portions of the United States.

     

     

    They also believed that their immediate responsibility would be to protect against what they called the “counter-revolution.” And they felt that this counter-revolution could best be guarded against by creating and establishing re-education in the [American] Southwest, where we would take all of the people who needed to be re-educated into the new way of thinking and teach them how things were going to be.

     

     

    I asked, “Well, what is going to happen to those people that we can’t re-educate, that are diehard capitalists?” And the reply was that they’d have to be eliminated. And when I pursued this further, they estimated that they’d have to eliminate 25 million people in these re-education centers. And when I say “eliminate,” I mean kill 25 million people.

     

     

    I want you to imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of whom have graduate degrees from Columbia and other well-known educational centers, and hear them figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people.

     

     

    And they were dead serious.

     

     

    Grathwohl’s deadly account shouldn’t really shock us. Keep in mind that these young revolutionaries, educated at America’s leading universities, many of whom today teach at universities, were diehard communists and moral relativists. They assumed and accepted that millions would need to die to usher in the “better world,” as Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Che, and on and on and on, had always said. The Weather Underground horde in particular was largely Maoist. Compared to Mao’s death toll of 60-70 million, 25 million dead Americans was quite small — actually, almost a third less than Mao’s giant killing field. So, really, in the communist mind, killing only 25 million American resisters was not so big of a deal.

     

     

    The Weatherman’s talk of re-education centers, too, likewise should not come as a surprise. Such was fully in keeping with the Maoist-Red-Chinese-Vietnamese-Cambodian model that these young “revolutionaries” loudly trumpeted for years. The American Maoists were simply planning to carry out precisely what they had long advocated.

     

     

    As Larry Grathwohl said, they were serious — yes, deadly serious.

     

     

    Those words from Larry Grathwohl were shared some 30 years ago. Personally, I first met Larry quite unexpectedly in October 2010 at an event held at the National Press Club in Washington. I was there to give a presentation on my newly released book, Dupes, which documented the information I’ve noted above. The event was sponsored by Cliff Kincaid’s group America’s Survival. When I first arrived, Cliff said, “Come and meet Larry Grathwohl.” I was taken aback. “Larry Grathwohl is here?” I asked, incredulous. “Yeah,” said Cliff. “Come on.”

     

     

     

    I was expecting to see the shady, undercover, ’70s-looking guy in the Weather Underground’s “WANTED” poster. That was my only association with the name of Larry Grathwohl. Instead, I saw a normal-looking (and older) guy, a humble and harmless and shy man who shook my hand and thanked me for my book. I was embarrassed. “You, thank me?” I said. “No, please. Let me thank you. I wrote a book in the safety and comfort of my office. You risked your life going undercover with monsters.” He shrugged off the compliment. He seemed nervous to be there, and, frankly, had the look of someone who had seen hell — who had been to hell and back.

     

     

    I spoke to Larry again last July, at another event hosted by Cliff Kincaid’s group. We talked only for a few minutes, which, even then, was the longest I ever spoke to him face to face. What he told me in those few minutes would make your hair stand on end. I learned that he had actually attended (again, undercover) the hideous “War Council” held in Flint, Michigan on December 27, 1969. It, too, is worth remembering:

     

     

    The event was attended by some 400 student troops from the SDS/Weathermen crowd. Among the ringleaders was student radical John Jacobs, who came up with a fitting slogan for the gathering: “We’re against everything that’s good and decent.”

     

     

    That was precisely right, and was quickly made clear when an indecent Bernardine Dohrn grabbed the microphone and pumped up the faithful. True to form, the future childcare advocate at Northwestern University went on a scorching rant. She described the group’s mission: “We’re about being crazy motherf—-ers and scaring the sh-t out of honky America!” The crowd roared.

     

     

    Like at a radical revival meeting, Mark Rudd, the SDS-turned-Weather-Underground leader who had earlier shut down Columbia University, got caught up in the fervor: “It’s a wonderful feeling to hit a pig [a policeman]. It must be a really wonderful feeling to kill a pig or blow up something.”

     

     

    Likewise moved by the spirit, Kathy Boudin, who was one of the few Weathermen who ultimately did jail time, declared all mothers of white children to be “pig mothers.” (For the record, all of the radicals were rich white kids exploiting and fomenting racial division in order to unravel America.) Invoking the unity of the Christmas season, Boudin led the brethren in a new rendition of Bing Crosby’s “White Christmas:” “I’m Dreaming of a White Riot….,” she sang. She then shouted about “doing some sh-t like political assassinations.” (Boudin, like Bill Ayers, would later be admitted to the graduate program in education at Columbia University.)

     

     

    Those sentiments were just the tip of the iceberg, especially in terms of what Bernardine was thinking. The lovely Bernardine enlightened her comrades with her thoughts on the vicious Tate-LaBianca murders that had been recently executed by the satanic Charles Manson “family.” The future childcare advocate spoke excitedly about how the Manson family ripped open the dead Sharon Tate’s belly and shoved a fork inside, near the dying/dead infant in her womb. Dohrn thrilled: 

     

     

    Dig it! First they killed those pigs. Then they ate dinner in the same room with them. Then they even shoved a fork into the victim’s stomach! Wild!

     

     

    One would like to say that this moment of bloody madness startled even the hardcore in that room, but that would not be accurate. The faithful, from Bernardine’s sweetheart, Bill Ayers, to everyone else in the hall, knew that Bernardine was serious — and they dug it. As Mark Rudd later reported, the assembled “instantly adopted as Weather’s salute four fingers held up in the air, invoking the fork left in Sharon Tate’s belly.”

     

     

    This is not quite the flowery image of the children dancing with daisies captured by modern hagiographers and ’60s documentarians. Today, there is no Kodak moment of the four-finger salute thumb-tacked on the bulletin boards outside the office doors of the tenured radicals in their Ivy Towers, where idealistic education majors can take copious notes.

     

     

    They “dug it,” alright — which brings me back to Larry Grathwohl and our conversation in Washington last July.

     

     

    As we spoke about this particularly gruesome event, Grathwohl told me that he had been there and witnessed the entire spectacle. I noted that there has been some debate as to how much the rest of the room celebrated in Dohrn’s bloodlust. There’s an obvious reticence by the radicals to today step forward and admit they once celebrated the infamous four-finger salute. Bill Ayers has been asked to comment on the episode many times. The best face that Ayers has tried to put on the event is to claim that his sweetheart was being “ironic” or had employed “rhetorical overkill” (bad choice of words) or was speaking “partly as a joke” (but never fully). Among the radicals from that period who have investigated the incident is David Horowitz, himself a former communist who today is a leading conservative. Horowitz has set the record straight: “In 1980, I taped interviews with thirty members of the Weather Underground who were present at the Flint War Council, including most of its leadership. Not one of them thought Dohrn was anything but deadly serious.”

     

     

    And so, when I asked Larry Grathwohl if Dohrn and the others were indeed serious, and whether the rest of the radicals had joined in the salute, he confirmed vigorously. “Absolutely!” he said. “No question. Remember, I was there. I saw it.” As further proof, he added a tidbit that made me nauseous: Larry said that the rest of the evening, as the peace-loving “flower children” danced, they gleefully danced with their fingers in the form of the four-finger salute, moving their arms up and down and back and forth, laughing joyfully. Larry demonstrated for me.

     

     

    “Oh, my,” I muttered. “How awful.” “Oh, yes,” he replied. “It sure was.”

     

     

    Somewhat speechless, I slowly remarked that I needed to sit down with Larry and get this kind of information on the record. He agreed, noting that there was so much more, all likewise sick and unbelievable. We agreed we would do that. Maybe next year.

     

     

    Alas, for Larry, there will be no next year.

     

     

    I was shocked last week to learn of Larry’s death in his late 60s. I got the news from Trevor Loudon, who had become a good friend of Larry. It’s sad news. Larry was too young, with too much left to tell us. He is survived by Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, Mark Rudd, Kathy Boudin, and their comrades who today fundamentally transform the country that Larry risked his life for.

     

     

    May Larry Grathwohl rest in peace, free from the torments he once endured in this often grotesque world. He now resides in a far better place, the complete opposite of the hell of the Weather Underground.

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