As a fellow Celtic supporter said,if cheating,is bothering you so much ,then for ffs do something about it,our Board are the culprits, just sit back and watch it,oh wait a minute ,if it’s the Green Brigade,then we will give the Cops there address,to lift them from their home’s,
weebobbycollins on
Beatbhoy @ 10.47… that was me. I do not believe in any conspiracy. However, I do believe if the penalty incident had been Sviatchenko on Waghorn, he would have given it. It would have been difficult for him to call a penalty against his team after they had gotten back into the game. Either way he could have defended the decision…but that’s not a conspiracy. And yes, I can imagine Madden and perhaps McLean and Muir having a wee laugh about it out of the earshot of others. But it is still not a conspiracy. Individuals making biased decisions? Yes, definitely! Cheating? Well, yes it is. I hope Brendan or Peter L. have a word with Fleming about it. Regardless, they are still a bunch of incompetent wannabes.
With regards to the tackling, that has to be resolved on the park. Where was the reaction from the players at these incidents? We should put a bit more pressure on the referee…sort it Brendan
Barney67 on
Imagine being so absolutely devoid of anything to cheer about a DRAW is the highlight of your entire season.
The Green Man says SACK THE Board on
Burnley78
Seriously. What leads you to believe that Celtic will do anything whatsoever about bent hun refs?
They seem to have ignored it totally in my lifetime.
Why would they do so now?
Burnley78 on
MWD
I honestly don’t know but would be very surprised if the manager wanted it picked up then I am sure the club would back him and agree the right course of action.
Just because things are not played to a public gallery does not always mean nothing is being done. It’s is worth remembering the club achieving 10 in a row and trebles are hugely marketable events which even if we reduce it to generating revenue as a motivator there is plenty to encourage challenge from the club.
Dbhoy on
EPL fans nationwide weren’t happy re ticket price increases.
Liverpool fans organised and staged a walkout, generated great publicity for the issue which led to a groundswell of support to put pressure on the authorities to cap ticket prices.
If we can organise ourselves and act as one body as part of a consistent, coherent and peaceful demonstration campaign. I have absolutely no doubt we will force the change we deserve to see.
If Liverpool fans can mobilise on ticket prices why can’t we do something similar re the referees and the structure that protects them here in Scotland
jimtim on
BEATBHOY on 13TH MARCH 2017 10:47 AM
Jimtim
Not all of us knew how it would pan out.
@@@@@@@
Did you have a guess how it would pan out . I knew how it would . And I’m quite sure most of the celtic support knew as well . And we weren’t wrong .
BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on
Just after the final whistle yesterday,I went up to the bar for the round.
And English acquaintance had been watching the game,sat at the bar. He knows not to come near us during the match,it can be a bit rowdy!
He said that the game was interesting,to say the least,and asked if it was supposed to be similar to their soccer down here. Lipped sod,I was just about to let rip when he added…
“Cos if your players had tackled like that yesterday at Twickenham,you might have got a better result!”
TIMBHOY3 and others have got it right. The CLUB needs to complain at the top level.
Anywhere else,the players could take their concern to their union. Not here.
thetimreaper on
BRTH
I don’t eat red meat!!!
BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on
THETIMREAPER
Kenny Miller clearly does. Raw.
The Green Man says SACK THE Board on
You can only think that the PLC are happy to accept the hun cheating.
Cant come to any other conclusion really.
Its sort of like….its bent, but pay up anyway
VFR800 is now a Monster 821 on
Barney67 on 13th March 2017 10:19 am
He was well onside – he ran by Lustig to get the ball.
Burnley78 on 13th March 2017 11:04 am
The North Curve (not just the Green Brigade) we on song right to the end and the after the final whistle went.
IMHO the Celtic support in NEVER a liability.
KTF
The Green Man says SACK THE Board on
That level playing field looks like its been spread with manure by farmers
Burnley78 on
Green Man
You have reached YOUR conclusion.
So I am not sure if you are trying to convince yourself or maybe you are looking to create a bit of discord amongst the support of an otherwise fantastically successfully run club.
Burnley78 on
VFR
I was quoting re liability point.
That said I have not been in any sporting arena anywhere in the world where a nervous crowd does not hinder a
Burnley78 on
VFR
Finishing previous post
Does not hinder a team trying to secure a result.
The Green Man says SACK THE Board on
Burnley78
Im stating the obvious like other posters, or havent you noticed due to your PLC tinted spectacles.
When the PLC do stand up against it…..then you will be right.
The cheating will continue as long as we remain a compliant tickect buying support .
The pleas to the board/plc to intervene are illusory. The illusion that somehow the board/plc care about the integrity of the game or what the ordinary punter thinks.
When in reality all they care about are the finances.
Any action we take as a support that have a significant financial impact will force the powers at be to act, they wouldn’t have any alternative.
Personally I would target cup competitions as the SFA would take the brunt of any financial hit
An Teach Solais on
With regard to Madden’ condoning (or myopia) moments re illegal tackles on our players :-
I recall a case where a rugby player suffered what is now termed “a life-changing incident” and successfully brought action against the referee for breaches of the Health and Safety etc Act for failing to implement properly the rules of the game.
Perhaps those with better recall than I can confirm/correct my hazy recollection.
I understand that referees here are self employed but contract their services to the SFA.
If any of our legal eagles are lurking, perhaps they might comment whether this would be a useful reminder of their legal duties to the MIBs. HH
I don’t follow any football except Celtic any more, lost interest some years back in World Cups and Champions Leagues etc.
My question is this are there any known instances of clubs in other leagues complaining to the ruling bodies about the standard of refereeing and if so what was the process for doing that??
Maddens performance yesterday although half expected was worse for me about the unpunished thuggery that went on than the penalty claim which he we replayed that game a millions times he’s never going to give a last minute penalty to us against his heroes!
HH
weebobbycollins on
Thetimreaper @ 11.28…don’t worry they can paint it a different colour for you…
Btw…my first evening in Gaza, I asked for pasta with mushroom sauce at the restaurant. I bit into what I thought was a mushroom but turned out to be a piece of chicken. I called the waiter over and explained I was vegetarian and didn’t eat meat…”that’s not meat sir, that’s chicken”….
I seem to recall last year Canamalar was advocating going down the H&S route. Should be looked at.
The Green Jedi on
Simunovic must be seriously asking himself ” what have I done so wrong on Brendan Rodgers since Xmas” Has his agent told BR that he’s looking around for offers of moves in the summer that we don’t know about whatever issue, its not a fitness or form reason that’s keeping him out of the team.
Boyata & Erek just don’t cut it for me as any sort of pairing. Last week they were outjumped continually by an absolute journey man in John Sutton, yesterday rag dolled by a 37 year old and a fat munchin who can barely run the length of himself.
If Brendan was keeping his powder dry for the Semi Final fair enough, but the Hun now know how we line up and how they can hurt us (aided & abetted by a bent ref of course) Eboussi must have something in him, he’s with us over 2 months and cost over £2m so now’s the time to show us why. Tam Rogic will be also fit for next month. Our two biggest enemies have now begun to take effect of this team: 1) Complacency & 2) Masons with whistles.
BR need to box clever to overcome both….Brendan will not like that idea floating around the internet, that he was “outfoxed” by an Under 20’s coach in his final game in charge yesterday.
Halfway home. Stopped for a coffee. Was just thinking:
I met two friends my cousins funeral on Friday. Hadn’t seen them for a long number of years. We spoke about the game coming up on Sunday. Both expressed concerns over bro Madden. I reassured them they were worrying needlessly.
It so happened I met them at the game on the North Stand concourse pre match. They both seemed a bit uneasy about the ref. Again I told them to put it out their minds.
James, Rab…..should you be looking in…. how right you were. Rab, I think my last comment to you was ” I hope these comments don’t come back and haunt me”
Anyone know a good exorcist?
South Of Tunis on
Lunch time news featuring film of the damage done to parts of Rube’s away team facilities after Friday night’s Rube 2- Milan 1 game . . . things broken , things ripped off walls etc and this written on a commemorative plaque with a black felt pen ————- LADRI . . ( Italian for thieves )
An Teach Solais on
DAVIDOPOULOS @11.58am.
Now more than ever I feel that the club should consider the H&S aspect and I would commend Canamalar for foresight.
I would suspect that as self-employees our MIBs are responsible for their own insurance cover and a few cases with concomitant hike in premiums might concentrate minds better. HH
thetimreaper on
Jozo was injured for a couple of weeks I’m sure. He and Boyata are the preferred two in my opinion.
Hot Smoked on
When I have seen Madden and his linesmen warming up, the Celtic players seem to have a good relationship with him. If it is true that he asked Griff if it should have been a penalty, this supports the idea that the Celtic players are happy enough with him.That suggests that they consider him to be a fair referee. The remaining and important question therefore is this: Should referees who support or who have have supported any given team be allowed to officiate in those games?
I would have thought that honest refs would agree that refereeing your `own` team ( especially against special rivals) is not a desirable situation. I realise, of course, that this would cause real problems in Scotland as it seems that a high percentage of our officials have at least a leaning towards any Ibrox club.
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As a fellow Celtic supporter said,if cheating,is bothering you so much ,then for ffs do something about it,our Board are the culprits, just sit back and watch it,oh wait a minute ,if it’s the Green Brigade,then we will give the Cops there address,to lift them from their home’s,
Beatbhoy @ 10.47… that was me. I do not believe in any conspiracy. However, I do believe if the penalty incident had been Sviatchenko on Waghorn, he would have given it. It would have been difficult for him to call a penalty against his team after they had gotten back into the game. Either way he could have defended the decision…but that’s not a conspiracy. And yes, I can imagine Madden and perhaps McLean and Muir having a wee laugh about it out of the earshot of others. But it is still not a conspiracy. Individuals making biased decisions? Yes, definitely! Cheating? Well, yes it is. I hope Brendan or Peter L. have a word with Fleming about it. Regardless, they are still a bunch of incompetent wannabes.
With regards to the tackling, that has to be resolved on the park. Where was the reaction from the players at these incidents? We should put a bit more pressure on the referee…sort it Brendan
Imagine being so absolutely devoid of anything to cheer about a DRAW is the highlight of your entire season.
Burnley78
Seriously. What leads you to believe that Celtic will do anything whatsoever about bent hun refs?
They seem to have ignored it totally in my lifetime.
Why would they do so now?
MWD
I honestly don’t know but would be very surprised if the manager wanted it picked up then I am sure the club would back him and agree the right course of action.
Just because things are not played to a public gallery does not always mean nothing is being done. It’s is worth remembering the club achieving 10 in a row and trebles are hugely marketable events which even if we reduce it to generating revenue as a motivator there is plenty to encourage challenge from the club.
EPL fans nationwide weren’t happy re ticket price increases.
Liverpool fans organised and staged a walkout, generated great publicity for the issue which led to a groundswell of support to put pressure on the authorities to cap ticket prices.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/mar/09/fans-goodwill-gesture-away-ticket-prices
If we can organise ourselves and act as one body as part of a consistent, coherent and peaceful demonstration campaign. I have absolutely no doubt we will force the change we deserve to see.
If Liverpool fans can mobilise on ticket prices why can’t we do something similar re the referees and the structure that protects them here in Scotland
BEATBHOY on 13TH MARCH 2017 10:47 AM
Jimtim
Not all of us knew how it would pan out.
@@@@@@@
Did you have a guess how it would pan out . I knew how it would . And I’m quite sure most of the celtic support knew as well . And we weren’t wrong .
Just after the final whistle yesterday,I went up to the bar for the round.
And English acquaintance had been watching the game,sat at the bar. He knows not to come near us during the match,it can be a bit rowdy!
He said that the game was interesting,to say the least,and asked if it was supposed to be similar to their soccer down here. Lipped sod,I was just about to let rip when he added…
“Cos if your players had tackled like that yesterday at Twickenham,you might have got a better result!”
Well,who was I argue?
Here’s Bobby Madden sending off Stokes for a lunge against Motherwell.
https://youtu.be/i_2OAssdH74
Clearly his opinion of the rules has changed in the last 3 years.
Lipped=lippy
But you knew that!
Im trying to understand why the Celtic PLC would say anything about huns refs, when they have totally ignored it for at least fifty years.
Someone explain it to me.
Here’s Bobby Madden awarding a penalty for “deliberate handball”:
https://youtu.be/fe6ZnfC1BsQ
WEEBOBBYCOLLINS
Lustig complained about the tackle on Paddy.
He got booked.
TIMBHOY3 and others have got it right. The CLUB needs to complain at the top level.
Anywhere else,the players could take their concern to their union. Not here.
BRTH
I don’t eat red meat!!!
THETIMREAPER
Kenny Miller clearly does. Raw.
You can only think that the PLC are happy to accept the hun cheating.
Cant come to any other conclusion really.
Its sort of like….its bent, but pay up anyway
Barney67 on 13th March 2017 10:19 am
He was well onside – he ran by Lustig to get the ball.
Burnley78 on 13th March 2017 11:04 am
The North Curve (not just the Green Brigade) we on song right to the end and the after the final whistle went.
IMHO the Celtic support in NEVER a liability.
KTF
That level playing field looks like its been spread with manure by farmers
Green Man
You have reached YOUR conclusion.
So I am not sure if you are trying to convince yourself or maybe you are looking to create a bit of discord amongst the support of an otherwise fantastically successfully run club.
VFR
I was quoting re liability point.
That said I have not been in any sporting arena anywhere in the world where a nervous crowd does not hinder a
VFR
Finishing previous post
Does not hinder a team trying to secure a result.
Burnley78
Im stating the obvious like other posters, or havent you noticed due to your PLC tinted spectacles.
When the PLC do stand up against it…..then you will be right.
However….The PLC, will do nothing, as usual
Another wee Madden Moment for you all to enjoy – this time sending off Wanyama:
https://youtu.be/3YBKCeHkXsY
6 Celts in the Scotland squad including Broonie. Surprisingly Newco linchpin Bobby Madden overlooked.
THETIMREAPER
£6M man Barrie McKay also missing. How odd!
The Timreaper
Noted!!
The cheating will continue as long as we remain a compliant tickect buying support .
The pleas to the board/plc to intervene are illusory. The illusion that somehow the board/plc care about the integrity of the game or what the ordinary punter thinks.
When in reality all they care about are the finances.
Any action we take as a support that have a significant financial impact will force the powers at be to act, they wouldn’t have any alternative.
Personally I would target cup competitions as the SFA would take the brunt of any financial hit
With regard to Madden’ condoning (or myopia) moments re illegal tackles on our players :-
I recall a case where a rugby player suffered what is now termed “a life-changing incident” and successfully brought action against the referee for breaches of the Health and Safety etc Act for failing to implement properly the rules of the game.
Perhaps those with better recall than I can confirm/correct my hazy recollection.
I understand that referees here are self employed but contract their services to the SFA.
If any of our legal eagles are lurking, perhaps they might comment whether this would be a useful reminder of their legal duties to the MIBs. HH
I don’t follow any football except Celtic any more, lost interest some years back in World Cups and Champions Leagues etc.
My question is this are there any known instances of clubs in other leagues complaining to the ruling bodies about the standard of refereeing and if so what was the process for doing that??
Maddens performance yesterday although half expected was worse for me about the unpunished thuggery that went on than the penalty claim which he we replayed that game a millions times he’s never going to give a last minute penalty to us against his heroes!
HH
Thetimreaper @ 11.28…don’t worry they can paint it a different colour for you…
Btw…my first evening in Gaza, I asked for pasta with mushroom sauce at the restaurant. I bit into what I thought was a mushroom but turned out to be a piece of chicken. I called the waiter over and explained I was vegetarian and didn’t eat meat…”that’s not meat sir, that’s chicken”….
AN TEACH SOLAIS
I seem to recall last year Canamalar was advocating going down the H&S route. Should be looked at.
Simunovic must be seriously asking himself ” what have I done so wrong on Brendan Rodgers since Xmas” Has his agent told BR that he’s looking around for offers of moves in the summer that we don’t know about whatever issue, its not a fitness or form reason that’s keeping him out of the team.
Boyata & Erek just don’t cut it for me as any sort of pairing. Last week they were outjumped continually by an absolute journey man in John Sutton, yesterday rag dolled by a 37 year old and a fat munchin who can barely run the length of himself.
If Brendan was keeping his powder dry for the Semi Final fair enough, but the Hun now know how we line up and how they can hurt us (aided & abetted by a bent ref of course) Eboussi must have something in him, he’s with us over 2 months and cost over £2m so now’s the time to show us why. Tam Rogic will be also fit for next month. Our two biggest enemies have now begun to take effect of this team: 1) Complacency & 2) Masons with whistles.
BR need to box clever to overcome both….Brendan will not like that idea floating around the internet, that he was “outfoxed” by an Under 20’s coach in his final game in charge yesterday.
Halfway home. Stopped for a coffee. Was just thinking:
I met two friends my cousins funeral on Friday. Hadn’t seen them for a long number of years. We spoke about the game coming up on Sunday. Both expressed concerns over bro Madden. I reassured them they were worrying needlessly.
It so happened I met them at the game on the North Stand concourse pre match. They both seemed a bit uneasy about the ref. Again I told them to put it out their minds.
James, Rab…..should you be looking in…. how right you were. Rab, I think my last comment to you was ” I hope these comments don’t come back and haunt me”
Anyone know a good exorcist?
Lunch time news featuring film of the damage done to parts of Rube’s away team facilities after Friday night’s Rube 2- Milan 1 game . . . things broken , things ripped off walls etc and this written on a commemorative plaque with a black felt pen ————- LADRI . . ( Italian for thieves )
DAVIDOPOULOS @11.58am.
Now more than ever I feel that the club should consider the H&S aspect and I would commend Canamalar for foresight.
I would suspect that as self-employees our MIBs are responsible for their own insurance cover and a few cases with concomitant hike in premiums might concentrate minds better. HH
Jozo was injured for a couple of weeks I’m sure. He and Boyata are the preferred two in my opinion.
When I have seen Madden and his linesmen warming up, the Celtic players seem to have a good relationship with him. If it is true that he asked Griff if it should have been a penalty, this supports the idea that the Celtic players are happy enough with him.That suggests that they consider him to be a fair referee. The remaining and important question therefore is this: Should referees who support or who have have supported any given team be allowed to officiate in those games?
I would have thought that honest refs would agree that refereeing your `own` team ( especially against special rivals) is not a desirable situation. I realise, of course, that this would cause real problems in Scotland as it seems that a high percentage of our officials have at least a leaning towards any Ibrox club.
JJ
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