Cheating, what about the next time?

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“If we allow cheating in our democratic process, then what about the next time?  What about the time after that, right?  This is a breach of the law, this is cheating.  And the thing that’s really important to understand here is that this is not some council race or by-election, this is an irreversible change to the constitution settlement of this country.”

Christopher Wylie, in evidence to a Parliamentary Committee, yesterday, 27 March 2018.

I was disheartened when I watched this incredible testimony on the Brexit campaign last night.  Cheating creates winners and losers.  The winners are invested with power that contaminates others.  “Raking over the coals” soon becomes a hassle too far, not just when the SFA reject a request for a review from the SPFL, but when the livelihoods of millions are on the line.

Cheating is successful, apparently, and will continue in any given environment until the consequences are absolute.  The SFA should take note.  They have condoned the next cheat.

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  1. I will be astounded of forehead if the compliance officer finds anyone guilty of anything.

     

    It was stated in a court of law that they had an outstanding tax bill, this was excepted in said court of law that a licence shouldn’t have been approved, but it’s scotland and it will be….nothing to see here Timmy, move along now.

  2. Oh and they should never have gotten a licence last year either, they didn’t satisfy the conditions, I am willing to wager they will get one this year as well.

  3. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    I think hoopslegend Alan Stubbs had his cancer diagnosed after he failed a drugs test at the end of the SCF.

  4. DONTBRATTBAKKINANGER on 28TH MARCH 2018 2:59 PM

     

    I think hoopslegend Alan Stubbs had his cancer diagnosed after he failed a drugs test at the end of the SCF.

     

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    DONTBRATTBAKKINANGER, I would have thought we would have heard more about this kind of thing over the years, it would be good to think that if it is taking place and things like Stubbs’s cancer is diagnosed then all the better.

     

     

    D. :)

  5. Delaneys Dunky on

    Just read in Clydebank Post that West Dunbartonshire Council are holding a ceremony this Saturday at 11am, to unveil a plaque to commemorate the three Faifley Rangers supporters who lost their lives in the Ibrox disaster 1971. The plaque will be placed at the site of The Doublet Bar, where their supporter bus left from that fateful day. It would be fitting if this was a cross community event. Hopefully the Celtic faithful in Clydebank can turn out to support this before our match on Saturday. I was only 5 year old that day, but remember the fear my mum had wondering if my dad and uncles were going to come home alive from the match. Wonderful memorial from the council. Three young Bankies taken too early. May they rest in peace.

  6. Hopefully the Griffalo and KT back this weekend, apart from Craig Gordon, is there anyone else on the treatment table, or are we nearly at a full compliment of players??

     

     

    D. :)

  7. DBBIA

     

    I don’t think Alan stubbs failed a drug test. If so, there would have been repercussions for him and Celtic.

     

    Blood tests which may be taken for drug and alcohol testing can show up certain proteins which can be indicative of cancer and then the initial test is followed up by examination and scanning,

  8. Looking at the pre=split fixtures, there would seem to be a reasonable chance that, before the final five games, the Table will read:

     

    Celtic

     

    Hibs

     

    Aberdeen

     

    Sevco.

     

    Come on CHAS !

     

     

    If things do go to form, Celtic will be Champions and some enthralling games are in prospect for 2nd, 3rd and 4th places..

     

    Almost make s me wish we were not so much better than the other contenders !

     

     

    JJ

  9. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    Testicular cancer[ which is what Alan Stubbs had] is one of the rare occasions that male urine gives a positive pregnancy test.

     

     

    When they tested his urine they would have been looking for excessive amounts of any sex hormone. His diagnosis was serendipitous.

  10. HRVATSKI JIM on 28TH MARCH 2018 3:23 PM

     

    DBBIA

     

     

    I don’t think Alan stubbs failed a drug test. If so, there would have been repercussions for him and Celtic.

     

     

    Blood tests which may be taken for drug and alcohol testing can show up certain proteins which can be indicative of cancer and then the initial test is followed up by examination and scanning,

     

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    HJ I didn’t think big Stubbsy failed the test.

     

    HH

     

    D. :)

  11. Celticrollercoaster supporting @WalkWithShay on

    Is the next time, not the 2017/18 licence? Did they pass the FFP regulations in terms of losses to take part in their game against Progres?

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

  12. A little humor to get us through the day…………………

     

     

     

    Humor beats politics today

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Don Meredith, Dallas Cowboys Quarterback once said: “Coach Tom Landry is such a perfectionist that if he was married to Raquel Welch, he would expect her to cook.”

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Harry Neale, professional hockey coach: “Last year we couldn’t win at home and we were losing on the road. My failure as a coach was that I couldn’t think of anyplace else to play.”

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Reggie Jackson commenting on Tom Seaver: “Blind people come to the ballpark just to listen to him pitch.”

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Doug Sanders, professional golfer: “I’m working as hard as I can to get my life and my cash to run out at the same time. If I can just die after lunch Tuesday, everything will be perfect.”

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Mickey Lolich, Detroit Tigers pitcher: “All the fat guys watch me and say to their wives, ‘See, there’s a fat guy doing okay. Bring me another beer.'”

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Tommy LaSorda , L A Dodgers manager: “I found out that it’s not good to talk about my troubles. Eighty percent of the people who hear them don’t care and the other twenty percent are glad I’m having them.”

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    E.J. Holub, Kansas City Chiefs linebacker regarding his 12 knee operations: “My knees look like they lost a knife fight with a midget.”

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Vic Braden, tennis instructor: “My theory is that if you buy an ice-cream cone and make it hit your mouth, you can learn to play tennis. If you stick it on your forehead, your chances aren’t as good.”

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Walt Garrison, Dallas Cowboys fullback when asked if Tom Landry ever smiles: “I don’t know. I only played there for nine years.”

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    John Breen, Houston Oilers: “We were tipping off our plays. Whenever we broke from the huddle, three backs were laughing and one was pale as a ghost.”

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Bum Phillips, New Orleans Saints, after viewing a lopsided loss to the Atlanta Falcons:”The film looks suspiciously like the game itself.”

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Al Hrabosky, major league relief pitcher: “When I’m on the road, my greatest ambition is to get a standing boo.”

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Paul Horning, Green Bay Packers running back on why his marriage ceremony was before noon: “Because if it didn’t work out, I didn’t want to blow the whole day.”

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Lou Holtz , Arkansas football coach: “I have a lifetime contract. That means I can’t be fired during the third quarter if we’re ahead and moving the ball.”

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Knute Rockne, when asked why Notre Dame had lost a game: “I won’t know until my barber tells me on Monday.”

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Bill Walton, Portland Trail Blazers: “I learned a long time ago that ‘minor surgery’ is when they do the operation on someone else, not you.”

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    George MacIntyre, Vanderbilt football coach surveying the team roster that included 26 freshmen and 25 sophomores: “Our biggest concern this season will be diaper rash.”

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Rick Venturi, Northwestern football coach: “The only difference between me and General Custer is that I have to watch the films on Sunday.”

     

     

     

     

    And you thought Yogi was the only one whose mind worked this way.

     

     

     

     

  13. Someone told me this morning that there was talk in the `papers ( I know) that Sinclair wanted to return to England. Is that just the normal Scottish excuse for journalism?

     

    JJ

  14. I take it from the thread today that the CO has completed his investigation into Res 12, he as a rep of the SFA will come out with some long winded statement on what has happened , but there will be no” raking over the coals” no investigation and no one held to account, hope I am very wrong but I don’t think I am.

  15. Hot Smoked @ 3.27 –

     

    I’ve been looking at all of the pre-split fixtures but don’t share your optimism. If my own predictions are correct we would get to the split just needing a single point to become champions. For what it’s worth here’s my workings!

     

    CURRENT TABLE – GAMES PLAYED / POINTS

     

    1st CELTIC 30/68

     

    2nd RANGERS* 31/58

     

    3rd ABERDEEN 30/56

     

    4th HIBS 30/52

     

     

    FIXTURES AND PREDICTED OUTCOMES

     

    Motherwell v Rangers* – Draw

     

    Aberdeen v St Johnstone – Home win

     

    Celtic v Ross County – Home win

     

    Hibs v Partick – Home win

     

    Hibs v Hamilton – Home win

     

    Motherwell v Aberdeen – Draw

     

    Celtic v Dundee – Home win

     

    Hearts v Aberdeen – Draw

     

    Rangers* v Dundee – Home win

     

    Ross County v Hibs – Draw

     

    Hamilton v Celtic – Away win

     

     

    Regarding the 11 fixtures above I think that the only ones that are in doubt are the 4 draws and possibly (dare I say it) our visit to Synthetic Hamilton.

     

     

    WOULD LEAVE THE LEAGUE TABLE AFTER 33 GAMES LOOKING LIKE –

     

    Celtic 77

     

    Rangers* 62

     

    Aberdeen 61

     

    Hibs 59

     

     

    Us as champions with places 2 to 4 still anybody’s guess.

     

     

    cutoutandkeeptouseagainstmeCSC

  16. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Sevco will really have to rescue the £11 mil Morelos bid, from a country with a Transfer Window open, and reply to the begging emails from The Dallas Cowboys, they would be daft not to…..

  17. evening bhoys, just reading back tin hat on here, but dont you think maybe if we did not talk about thems so much, dont give them the oxygen of publicity, they might just go away. me personally dont give 2 hoots about them they died. hh.

  18. MORAVCIK on 28TH MARCH 2018 2:38 PM

     

     

    Attitudes to cheating, compare and contrast.

     

     

     

    “I am shocked and bitterly disappointed by the news from South Africa,” said Turnbull. (Australian Prime Minister)

     

     

     

    “It seems beyond belief the Australian cricket team have been involved in cheating. Our cricketers are role models and cricket is synonymous with fair play. How can our team be engaged in cheating like this? It beggars belief.”

     

     

     

    *****

     

     

     

    “My appeal to Rangers and HMRC is – can’t we agree on a sum. . . . . . . Because Scottish football, even Celtic, needs Rangers. . . . .allow Rangers to pay their obligations but continue as a vibrant part, not just of Scottish football,but of Scottish culture”. (Alex Salmond, then First Minister)

     

     

     

    Of course, one was only tax-dodging, the other was the heinous crime of ball tampering.

     

     

    *****

     

     

    Cheers, Moravcik! I love re-reading my posts!

  19. Big Packy

     

    While I understand where you are coming from re not talking about thems, I have to disagree with you, I am nearing the end of my time on the planet and in all that time they have cheated the game of football, I want them punished for this, I know they have died, but have they…from what I can see they are alive and still cheating the game of football, if we ignore it, their cheating will only get worse imo, the powers that be know they are being watched, it’s not stopping them but they have been curtailed big time.

     

    We need to keep shining the light on their cheating.

     

    I want them dead for good afore I depart this mortal coil, I honestly don’t think it’s too much to ask for.

     

    HH

  20. !!Bada Bing!! on

    G18 & any other Belfast Bhoys- my son and his missus looking at buying a house there in next few months, been offered Bloomfield Rd and Holland Drive, only about 10 mins apart i believe, thanks for any feedback

  21. South Of Tunis on

    BIG PACKY

     

     

    The SFA gave Sevco a Conditional /Temporary Licence in July 2012..They are illegitimate.That should never be forgotten .

  22. Dundee Utd Chairman Steven Thompson, June 2012.

     

     

    Thompson has received “emails and letters in the hundreds” from fans opposed to a Rangers newco being admitted to the SPL and he suspects the issue is already having an effect on season ticket sales.

     

    “One or two are holding back, I’ve no doubt about that and that affects what I’m capable of doing with regard to bringing players in,” said Thompson who revealed he is in talks with manager Peter Houston’s agent about a new deal.

     

    “It’s not just people who are 15, 16-years-old on message boards, I’m talking about people writing in who have been season ticket holders for 30 or 40 years with very, very strong feelings.

  23. On the SFM there is a post about a recent Hearts supporters’ Q&A with Anne Budge.

     

     

    She was asked very specifically what Hearts are doing with regard to Sevco’s potential award of a Euro license this season.

     

     

    Her answer appeared to suggest she was happy to leave it to the SFA.

     

     

    Not encouraging.

  24. STARRY PLOUGH , THE EXILED TIM yes bhoys know where your coming. from believe me my hatred of them is akin to yours. maybe i got the post wrong, just get fed up hearing about them, anyway how are you 2 fine gentleman hope the dogs are okay exiled tim.hh.

  25. SoT

     

    Yip, they are, but the bassas are still breathing.

     

    I have always believed that it will be a technicality that will do for the sfa, so far they have managed to ride out the storm, but as long as the light keeps shining on them they will make a mistake and they will be caught, the hun won’t be mind you, they will always have a team, there is far too much muney to be had, no way will millions a year be allowed to pass by, no way.

     

    Not been a great few months in the mountains, incessant rain, very unlike Spanish weather, but a couple of days of sunshine and all is well again :-)

     

    HH

  26. Celtic fans need to hold money back. They keep Scottish football going. Only way to fight the corruption. Sfa know they won’t do it. Probably laughing about it. Total frauds. Will never support Scotland again either. Celtic only. Green blood.

  27. BP

     

    Had one of our dugs in at the vets today, she has the Leishmans, a horrible disease, we thot she was responding to the treatment but alas no, she needs more, it’s akin to chemo for dogs, seems the parasite is a hardy little bugger, hopefully she will win the battle, she has a sponser so the costs are covered, thankfully as they are huge.

     

    The rest are Ok, we have one who is going to Malaga for a major op in a few weeks, his leg is going to get pinned, he is on the wifes page, we are going to keep him, he is a cracking dog is Robin, biggest dog I have ever had also the most placid.

     

    HH

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