I received updates direct from last week’s Scottish Football League meeting shortly after it concluded. My information was that Neil Doncaster in particular was given a torrid time and that the mood among clubs was firmly against agreeing to place Sevco into the First Division.
Within a couple of hours it was clear that many in the media had been given a different impression and that if the vote was taken then, a ‘healthy majority would vote in favour’. To a degree I think we are all susceptible to messages we want to hear but it has been a feature of this debacle that executives from the national bodies have given clear guidance to the media that ‘Newco’ would be voted into the SPL, as it was, or now into the First Division.
On more than one occasion I’ve heard “You might have heard different, but Neil Doncaster told me….”
There is no shortcut for legwork and attention to detail. On this subject, credit to STV, who present informed information on how Friday’s vote is likely to pan out, with references. Of the 30 clubs in the SFL, the report 14 have declared an intention to vote against plans to plant Sevco into the First Division, one will abstain and one has (incorrectly) been told they are ineligible to vote. Another 14 are yet to declare.
It seems likely that the SFL vote will go the way of the SPL vote. There is a desire to retain the sporting element to our game among clubs, if not among administrators.
In a statement yesterday Clyde FC nailed several of the myths behind threats made to SFL clubs:
“We have obtained a copy of the Settlement Agreement signed up to by the SPL and the SFL in April 1998 – it is clear that the agreement is not ambiguous in this regard and there is no scope for the SPL to fail to meet the obligations to the SFL except by deliberately breaching the agreement… We have concluded that it defies credibility that the SPL clubs would instruct the SPL to deliberately breach a legal agreement.
“The matter is made worse because of the extent of uncertainty which hangs over Sevco. There is no need to prepare an exhaustive list of the issues as they are well publicised, however the extent of outstanding sanctions that may or may not be levied against a club which has yet to obtain SFA membership, together with the increasing number of possible commercial and legal challenges to the transactions to date simply presents a significant risk to the ability of the club to fulfil its fixtures in any league. Given that some of these matters are in the hands of the governing bodies it seems inexplicable that they are left hanging.”
In short, the Scottish Football League has a binding contract with the SLP which they are entitled to enforce. Clyde also refer on the matter we have discussed here for many weeks, Sevco are trying to buy a SFA membership which has significant outstanding disciplinary issues against it which could see the membership suspended. Instead of providing clarity, the SPL and SFA have refused to set deadlines of proceed with hearings.
We can speculate if SFA chief exec, Stewart Regan, will inform SFL clubs in person on Friday of plans to disband judicial oversight from our game instead of asking Lord Carloway’s panel to reconvene.
Despite the valiant efforts of many football fans and clubs, our game has been ruined by years of destructive, self-serving, leadership.
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Auld Neil Lennon heid on 11 July, 2012 at 18:46 said:
Thanks for getting back to me. I also note Angus on RTC quoting the Fiorentina example in Italy, where they skipped a division on promotion, from Serie C2 to Serie B, due to “sporting merit”.
I would not be surprised if this came into play if by some miracle Sevco do end up in SFL3 next season.
I think mr meade has not thought this through
@STVCoatbridge
Rovers chairman speaks out over Rangers SFL future http://local.stv.tv/coatbridge/news/sport/110421-rovers-chairman-speaks-out-over-rangers-sfl-future/ #newco #sfl #rangers
Sparkleghirl – “If Sevco go bust while playing in SFL1, as I understand it they’d be relegated automatically. What happens if they go bust while playing in SFL3? ”
League restructure!
thanks for that bhoys, forgive me celticfc.net !
On a different topic.
It is exactly one year since i had my triple heart bypass.
Been going to the gym, back at work since January, (i work continental shifts, 7 days on 2 off, 10 days off every 3 weeks).
Just mentioning it in case anybody else has to go through a rebore like i did.
Dont worry you’ll be fine.
fanandpatriot
we’re waiting…………………………..
your cred’s on the line………..
HH
The Legend Johnny Doyle19.06
Will let you know soon.hope the membership is rising.HH
Paul67 et al
So that is what they have been doing for the last couple of years! And here was me thinking they had been conducting secret meetings about how to revive the dead parrot. Just shows how wrong you can be. And another thing, just what exactly did Henry McLeish get paid for? Yet another ‘working party’ working on a ‘new structure’, to be complete by St. Andrews Day. This is the way I see it, far from reducing the number of blazers, it will create yet another body, yet more jobs for the fraternity. Five minutes work stretched out for five months. Complete and utter nonsense.
leftclicktic on 11 July, 2012 at 19:07 said
Believe me, Rovers would make more from 2 games against Sevco that they ever would against Airdrie. They could sell out the Sevco home game by setting up a ticket booth at Airdrie Cross without ever allocating a ticket to Sevco!
Ah! A joint statement!
That must mean their latest scam is slip slidin away……… again.
Another positive omen for us and another dagger for DamienFC.
HH
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 11 July, 2012 at 19:01 said:
I have faith the sfl members will do the right thing, join the queue with other applicants, more so than I had two weeks ago, hopefully OG Rafferty’s gem to be released soon, will be the straw that breakes the camels back.
I saw OG’s comment earlier, but it wasn’t clear whether the startling news was startling in a way that we would like (e.g. more bad news for the Bad News Bears) or startling in a way we wouldn’t like. Did he follow up with any indication one way or the other?
Although my previous statement would depend on Sevco geting promoted and Rovers remaining in SFL2 season after next…
NatKnow..,
his original post commented the subject was one of the more outrageous offerings posted here.
Highly embarassing, I’m going with further sfa shame, enough to shift opinion again.
Duff and Phelps have racked up fees of £124,000 to Media House during the administration.
I can’t help thinking that represents very poor value.
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 11 July, 2012 at 19:19 said:
The fact he said it was highly embarrassing made me wonder….for whom?!!
ernie…,
managing to get Celtic supporters to consider jumping the queue into the sfl as fair is a bit of a coup IMO.
The Prince of Goalkeepers on 11 July, 2012
Fine I know bud.
:))))))))))))))))))))))))))
OG,
can you clarify who will be embarassed, or at least discount our club
So now it’s official. The entire structure of Scottish football is to be rearranged, the rule books of three governing bodies torn up entirely, to accommodate the ghost club Sevco.
And to think they mocked us when we suggested the referees might give them the odd dodgy penalty…
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 11 July, 2012 at 19:24 said:
‘ernie…,
managing to get Celtic supporters to consider jumping the queue into the sfl as fair is a bit of a coup IMO.’
Yes but Media House had no part in that.
Ibrox is a coup, is it no’?
How can court appointed Adminstrators pay for professional PR firm, with money that should have gone to creditirs or at least trying to keep the company afloat?
Evening fholks,
Paul67 I hope you don’t mind me doing this but I just wondered if you could put this up to see if anyone would like to help out with an event I’m doing for charity.
It’s billed as te toughtest event on the planet and it’s called Tough Mudder!
Basically Tough Mudder events are hardcore 12 mile-long 28 obstacle courses designed by the Special Forces to test your all around strength, stamina, mental grit and camaraderie. With the most innovative courses and half a million inspiring participants, Tough Mudder is the premier adventure challenge series in the world.
I’ve signed up to take part in the event in Scotland this Saturday (the 14th July) and I’m raising funds for the events main charity, Help for Heroes.
All the funds I can raise will go toward providing combat stress recovery programs, adaptive sports programs, benefits counselling and employment services that aid in these soldiers’ transition to civilian life.
By registering to take part it creates a donations page which I’ve attached below:
http://www.raceit.com/fundraising/donate.aspx?event=6569&fundraiser=r3338425
I will do my best to complete the course in one piece although the ice water swim, fire challenge and 10,000 volt electric shock run will be a bit of a test!!!
This is the first time Tough Mudder has come to the UK so I guess it isn’t widely known, but as it’s raising funds for such a worthy cause I thought it might be of interest.
Since I set this up I’ve found that many people have had problem with the US centric site so I have devised this key which should help with the mandatory fields in the donation page (I’ve even created an email address for all to use so no-one needs to use their own).
Email: toughmudder1967@gmail.com
Phone: 001-1122-3344 (US format so use this)
Here’s a link to let you see what I’m letting myself in for – http://toughmudder.co.uk/
Cheers!
HH
/Bishop B
ernie..,
I disagree, its another lie being repeated and accepted, has their fingerprints all over it.
Auldheid
You may well be right about Bobby Carroll playing for Irvine Meadow yon day. I know he played for them and then for us. I can’t really remember him too well. The only one of his contemporaries I do remember well is Alex Byrne, who was absolutely brilliant in the reserves but never seemed to make it in the big team.
Duff & Phelps performance has been inexplicable and disgraceful,
Auldheid,
ge are my first 2 letters.
I assume the new proposals mean one home game against Celtic and one against rangers. I thought the other teams in the SPL needed at least 3 visits from either or they faced financial meltdown?
Never mind League reconstruction, get the SKY Sports cancelled and we will soon have more money in the game when we get a better deal. We are being offerd a deal from SKY without rangers that equates to the money Hungarian football gets! We have been on a deal that is worse than Austria and Switzerland.
Time for ALL Scottish football fans to stop being taken for a mug.
@Len Brennan
I’m doing a Tough Mudder race here in the States in October. They are very popular here. Brutal, but fun. The electric shock obstacle is insane!
Good luck.
TT
Ernie
looks like good value if you’re Jack Irvine…………
HH
newradbhoy
great news…keep up the good work mate…
KTF
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 11 July, 2012 at 19:38 said:
‘ernie..,
I disagree, its another lie being repeated and accepted, has their fingerprints all over it.’
It doesn’t benefit the huns, D&P or the creditors so I don’t think they would have been involved.
Was that Daryl Murphy I saw coming on in the video?
Tim Malone Will Tell on 11 July, 2012 at 19:41 said:
Duff & Phelps performance has been inexplicable and disgraceful,
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I don’t know, I think they’ve done a great job…! ;))))
rangers LOST just under £4 Million AFTER they were placed in administration. It has to be the worst run administration ever and surely there will be a criminal investigation.
As simply put as I can get it: I’m trying not to be cynical.
I love my club, We have shared many great events together at parkhead.The highs, the lows, the marvellous european nights…These memories will stay in my heart forever.
However, Our club playing the heart string card is predictable …every season.i.e ” The club need our supporters more than ever now” ….I have never argued with this…After all it gets the punters in.Fair doo’s
What I do have a problem with however, is the statement released by our club the other day.It asks us to blindly buy into this shambles without knowing if we will be left feeling cheated again…. If the rules are applied, Then I will renew.
“Clearly, in terms of where Rangers do play, that is now a matter for others to decide upon, it is something we have no control or influence over”
We have no influence over whether the rules of our sport are applied or not?……This isn’t stopping Clyde or Raith rovers from at least having a go..Good on them…Our silence was golden, but it looks a bit weak now.In my opinion.
Scottish football is nothing but a pathetic popularity contest.With the exception of a few personalities in our game speaking out about this tragedy.No wonder our game is finished.
Regan and Doncaster along with the rest of the cabal must resign
All I demand as a supporter, is for the correct descisions to be made.
Tim Malone Will Tell on 11 July, 2012 at 19:41 said:
Duff & Phelps performance has been inexplicable and disgraceful
I agree it has been disgraceful, but not inexplicable. They are looking after No.1 – themselves. If there had been no possibility of money for them then they would never have accepted the contract in the first place. Despite the PR, they are not there primarily to get the best deal for creditors, they are there primarily to get money for themselves. Remember – they get paid before all others. Sucking the marrow from the bones is what they do.
fanadpatriot on 11 July, 2012 at 18:56 said:
Satires en Sevilla 18.47
Culinary tip.
A thick end( heel) of plain bread,place slices of cheese on top,place slices of tomato on top, place under toaster,when ready sprinkle( heavily) with pepper,sit back and enjoy.
jamesmartincsc
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Nearly right.
TOAST the heel end of that thick outsider of plain bread.
Turn it over.
NOW add the cheese & tomato, & place under the grill flame.
Lavishly apply black pepper.
ET VOILA !!!