I received updates direct from last week’s Scottish Football League meeting shortly after it concluded. My information was that Neil Doncaster in particular was given a torrid time and that the mood among clubs was firmly against agreeing to place Sevco into the First Division.
Within a couple of hours it was clear that many in the media had been given a different impression and that if the vote was taken then, a ‘healthy majority would vote in favour’. To a degree I think we are all susceptible to messages we want to hear but it has been a feature of this debacle that executives from the national bodies have given clear guidance to the media that ‘Newco’ would be voted into the SPL, as it was, or now into the First Division.
On more than one occasion I’ve heard “You might have heard different, but Neil Doncaster told me….”
There is no shortcut for legwork and attention to detail. On this subject, credit to STV, who present informed information on how Friday’s vote is likely to pan out, with references. Of the 30 clubs in the SFL, the report 14 have declared an intention to vote against plans to plant Sevco into the First Division, one will abstain and one has (incorrectly) been told they are ineligible to vote. Another 14 are yet to declare.
It seems likely that the SFL vote will go the way of the SPL vote. There is a desire to retain the sporting element to our game among clubs, if not among administrators.
In a statement yesterday Clyde FC nailed several of the myths behind threats made to SFL clubs:
“We have obtained a copy of the Settlement Agreement signed up to by the SPL and the SFL in April 1998 – it is clear that the agreement is not ambiguous in this regard and there is no scope for the SPL to fail to meet the obligations to the SFL except by deliberately breaching the agreement… We have concluded that it defies credibility that the SPL clubs would instruct the SPL to deliberately breach a legal agreement.
“The matter is made worse because of the extent of uncertainty which hangs over Sevco. There is no need to prepare an exhaustive list of the issues as they are well publicised, however the extent of outstanding sanctions that may or may not be levied against a club which has yet to obtain SFA membership, together with the increasing number of possible commercial and legal challenges to the transactions to date simply presents a significant risk to the ability of the club to fulfil its fixtures in any league. Given that some of these matters are in the hands of the governing bodies it seems inexplicable that they are left hanging.”
In short, the Scottish Football League has a binding contract with the SLP which they are entitled to enforce. Clyde also refer on the matter we have discussed here for many weeks, Sevco are trying to buy a SFA membership which has significant outstanding disciplinary issues against it which could see the membership suspended. Instead of providing clarity, the SPL and SFA have refused to set deadlines of proceed with hearings.
We can speculate if SFA chief exec, Stewart Regan, will inform SFL clubs in person on Friday of plans to disband judicial oversight from our game instead of asking Lord Carloway’s panel to reconvene.
Despite the valiant efforts of many football fans and clubs, our game has been ruined by years of destructive, self-serving, leadership.
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Oops sorry
bournesouprecipe on 11 July, 2012 at 17:54 said:
DOOH
I believe the kit featured black socks when Celtic first donned the ole hoops in 1903.
ASonofDan,
There is a rangers fc plc who currently hold sfa membership and an spl share.
That club are currently in administration awaiting liquidation, before club is wound up, BDO who require to keep them a live entity, to complete investigations into the financial irregularities.
While the club is under investigation there will be a rangers fc plc. So who are the sfa\sfl & spl preparing to allow into the game
Tim Malone puts us in the mood for a Fish supper
Just home after a visit to my local tesco in lisburn. There are two women in front of myself waiting to pay for their groceries. Mrs Bigot turns round to the other Mrs Bigot and shouts ” i just love the twelfth, its even better than christmas”…see what us kafflicks are missing out on.
oglach
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BSR,
While Lasse Viren was running at altitude and swapping his blood like it was a Rangers SFA Licence – Alf simply upped the training by adding a bit of extra salt and vinegar to the ole fish & chips.
So that’s the statement? The best that the leaders of the three footballing bodies can come up with? No wonder we are in a mess.
A bigger top tier and, er some other stuff once we work it out. But we will by November. And if folk don’t agree it will happen anyway.
If you were an SFL club chairman would that sway your vote on Friday?
Auldheid..,
“so if they end up in the SFL3 next season which is what sporting integrity demands”
gonnae no
Sporting integrity demands they apply as a new club and provide all relevant qualifications, no where near the spl or sfl.
stop promoting msm agenda
Smoke & Mirrors statement from the SFL, SFA & SPL.
http://www.scottishfootballleague.com/news/article/press-release-47/
How to make it sound that you are in control when everyone knows you are panicing instead of leading.
Don’t panic Captain Mainwaring CSC
Ten Men Won The League on 11 July, 2012 at 17:25 said:
That statement proves beyond doubt that all the SPL clubs are behind these shameful plans
The No to NewCo in the SPL was just a gesture to ‘pacify’ those pesky home supporters
The stitch up is in place
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Depends on where Newco start I think ,and as I said above the footballing reality is that putting them in SFL1 next season carried the serious risk of not meeting the objective of a SPL place the season after, certainly not without the Men In Black turning out in light blue jerseys and scoring goals for them.
The advice from McCoist at least who knows the standard of player he would need to survive in the SPL (not win, lets not forget Rangers are deid and this is a new operation) would not be available on whatever shoestring budget Greene would provide and of course it takes time for a team to gel. So in football terms an SFL3 start would be more realsitic.
So, if it is an SFL start and on the back of Rangers demise we get a new business model that is not based on “Old Firm” rivalry and we also manage to get the outstanding issues from EBTs addressed, it looks like a reasonable solution to a difficult problem.
Too Right Viren was a big Lasse compared with Alf
The new kit evokes memories of theiconicphoto of Patsy Gallagher, in ball striking pose.
If the filming was in black and white, the image would be very interesting.
As for the black socks.
They may provide an historical benchmark in remembering the year our great rivals died.
Worth putting up with them for a year.
specially for Tim Malone
In homage to the illustrious sevco history, elbows will be modelling a jakey’s vest, p1shy pants and odd socks topped off with a pair of oxfam continentals.
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 11 July, 2012 at 18:05 said:
Sporting integrity in Scotland if you want to be pedantic.
No industry is going to lose a swathe of its cash paying customers and that is a reality of the game.
That is why we have Junior football,- for the purists :)
Evening Celts,
Auldheid for what it’s worth, I agree with Canamalars post, let them apply with other prospective applicants.
HH
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon on 11 July, 2012 at 18:04 said
Not for an SFL1 start for Sevco it would not, but that part should be removed from the equation otherwise it will be a stitch up that will undermine SFL1 this season.
Auldheid we won’t lose the football fans, only the FF sectarian racists.
Oh and theIr children are welcome at CP to support the Celts.
Sorry for butting in bhoys :>)
HH
Auldheid,
sorry pal, you are begining to sound like spiers, stop it now, have you been poisoned
Cheers BSR – cracking web site that you found!!!
“In the event that a final decision is not reached by 30th November 2012, the
Scottish FA will seek to implement a new structure in time for the 2013/2014
season. The members of the working party including Chairman will be
announced in the near future and will ensure consultation with all stakeholders
prior to final recommendations being made.”
Good point thomthethim……small price to pay homage for the gift that keeps giving…..
Donegal bound early August – hope to catch a game in Sharkeys.
canamalar 1805
Andy Nixon, the Spartans director of football, has stated his club are ready to challenge Ratners newco for a place in the Irn Bru 3rd Div. The Edinburgh club believe they meet all the criteria for entry to the SFL, including 3 yrs of auditted accounts which Ratners newco do not possess. “We are watching with interest as we are keen to play at as high a level as we can,” said Nixon. “We are very ambitious and want to try get in the league”
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s480x480/534549_502227296469569_1377688307_n.jpg
On my way from work to a birthday celebration meal, 16 all Celtic mad, ye got to love Blackpool (thumbs up).
HH
Gravestones
Clement Freud wanted just his name then under that Best Before and then the date of his death
Vmhan on 11 July, 2012 at 18:14 said:
I’m not disagreeing with him I’m being realistic in terms of what is most likely to happen.
THey should have been told to apply for SFL3 without bringing reconstruction into it but had they done so, who thinks they would not have been admitted.
Doncaster, Regan & Ballantyne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxg716xgTcI&feature=related
thomthethim
here it is
originally posted on this subject by ole dick byrne – who’s just visible right of
jungle and to the front
why did STV see the need to place the former Rankers badge beside SPL SFL badges there? Disgrace.. They re nothing in Scottish football and caused the chaos …
Auldheid,
While I take your point, I take exception to your notion of the Juniors being for purists. That is stretching the imagination just a wee bitty….
Can’t we start a campaign for the dismissal of messrs Ogilivie, Regan and Doncaster (for starters) for bringing the game into disrepute?
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 11 July, 2012 at 18:18 said:
How dare you, I have never worn cordoroys in my life.
ParkheadcumsalfordwhoisNeilLennonand PaulMcBrideandTrishGodman on 11 July,
My boy plays Junior and he is pure dead brillant! :)
(You obviously got my footballing irony.)
Auldheid,
if you agree, why dont you make such statements prefixed with ‘contrary to sporting integrity’, that will be acceptable to my sensibilities :o)
My vote goes to Leonidas and his 100. It would be fitting if Thermopylae replaced Ibrox as a venue next season. Might help the Greek economy too. Big Sammi would feel well at home.
blantyretim on 11 July, 2012 at 17:26 said:
FOR YOU OLE YINS
Radio 2 have a programme tonight at 10pm about Rory Gallagher..
seems he played a guitar or something..
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That’s the evening entertainment sorted for me then …
A big mug of Horlicks and an outsider n toasted cheese
Smashin stuff :)
HH