Is it really possible that Charles Green made a genuine oversight and believed that monies due to Rangers FC (IA) could be paid by a debtor to selective creditors in order to let his Newco gain access to the Scottish Football League?
Back in May, while Rangers FC (IA) were adamant they would continue in business, the SPL agreed to pay money due to the club directly to creditors. The club subsequently failed to pay, or agree terms with, creditors and a creditor has asked BDO to liquidate them. The lawyers have earned enough from this saga in recent months, they would be scrambling for Gratuitous Alienation cast studies if the SPL was to selectively pay football clubs.
It looks like Mr Green is tying himself in knots over the Newco/Oldco routine. His attention to detail has the potential to become legendary, however, he is entitled to wonder why the SFA have allowed his Newco membership despite apparently not meeting agreed terms. I am sure the SFA president will be all over this issue like a rash, demanding clear and proper process is followed.
Or is the SFA president still the only man at Hampden who cannot participate in any of the important issues concerning Scottish football?
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macjay1 for Neil Lennon
13:21 on
”Subsequently:How many Aussies died in combating the curse of communism?”
‘Ernie:
The poor sods that went to Vietnam’
For heaven’s sake.
The VC won.
The Australians, and all the rest who died, died for nothing.
Certainly nothing worthwhile.
macjay,
the aussies were not in vietnam fighting communism, that is a lie
Paul67 et al
Any genuinely disinterested party would have difficulty in believing that the SFA, the SPL, and the SFL all operate out of the same building, when it would appear that they are not even on the same planet. The role of President of the SFA must surely be a symbolic one since it does not actually involve doing any work, or at least not any that the footballing public would be aware. Maybe the SFA could change its name to the SSSFA, namely the Self Serving SFA, or better still, take a leaf out of Michael Caine’s songbook..with the Self Preservation Society, the actual title of which was ‘Get a bloomin move on’.
Has Speirs been promised succulent (Yorkshire) lamb and fine claret?!
Or possibly mutton (dressed as lamb) and sub-standard ale?!
HH!!
Auldheid.
There is no chance Man United will go out of business, to compare them with the huns is mischievous, and suits the agenda of some that Celtic should spend no money now as we have the league in the bag.
As AweNaw said earlier we are yet again underpreparing for Europe. We moan about the EPL tv money and our inability to generate additional revenue, yet when we get a chance to get that additional revenue we appear to do little about it.
Since the season has ended we have lost 2 centre halves, and the deal for the centre half we were buying fell through due to his injury.
It is worth noting that Helsingborgs signed Finnbogasson on a permanent deal this week, obviously feeling that gives them a better chance of progressing against Celtic. We, with a turnover I would reckon at least double theirs have sat on our hands. The squad does not need wholesale changes, however a few tweaks and improvements are necessary if the team is to progress. I fear the lessons of 2008/09 which saw a failure to strengthen the team , despite the promises made by Mr Desmond as he basked in someone else’s glory at Tannadice, result in humiliation in Europe , and to failure at home. I hope we don’t make the same mistakes again just because we have no huns to worry about.
Talltbhoy,
I think its ofal
Philbhoy – It’s just the beginning!
12:29 on
16 August, 2012
What does Ogilvie do for a living?
Embdy know?
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I believe Phil, the SFA presidents have a history of looking after elderly parents!..HH
I find it hard to believe that some posters on this site are denigrating the Australian contribution regarding the fight against Fascism. Australia stood shoulder to shoulder with their Commonwealth comrades 1914-1918 and 1939-45.
The,Australian( British) treatment of the indigenous Aboriginal population in the C19th is a separate issue and has nothing to do with Fascism, Kaiser William, Hitler et al.
Australia is a loyal friend of the UK and has many true Celtic minded citizens.
We support Celtic and also our friends in the UK.
ASonOfDan
13:17 on
16 August, 2012
Auld Neil Lennon heid
Yup I just read the Liverpool article and I know Arsenal are depending on FFP to kick in.
When you look at the ever decreasing number of sugar daddies ready to make footballers sugar daddies with their money, then the threat of the sugar daddy clubs forming a breakaway league will be seen as an empty one.
I read Real have to lodge some X millions with the Spanish Govt in back tax by Oct(?)
There is more than enough money around to pay footballers a good wage and the time is coming when the current insanity will come to an end.
ASonOfDan
I read that as well, thought it very interesting to compare suggestions for reform of Scottish football with the various recent reforms in Italy.
http://www.wsc.co.uk/wsc-daily/1151-august-2012/8924-the-number-of-professional-clubs-in-italy-is-falling
Apologies for the lack of 20th Century Dictator content in this post:(
Tend not to get involved in other peoples aargument but here’s a statitistic approximatley 20 million Soviet citizens died fighting The Great Patriotic War against the Nazi’s.
Out of every 3 dead in the 2nd World War one was from the USSR.
stflannansbg
13:28 on
16 August, 2012
”The,Australian( British) treatment of the indigenous Aboriginal population in the C19th is a separate issue and has nothing to do with Fascism, Kaiser William, Hitler et al.”
Quite.
Which is why it’s wrong to attempt to excuse one by reference to the other.
And I’m not sure that the wrongdoing is confined to the 19th century.
Awe_Naw_
It was easy for football clubs to act as if they were special cases over the years. HMRC have decided otherwise and with everyone else in the world skint, there are quite a few people wondering WTF!
The recent Man Utd share issue being the classic example. It was compared to the share issues of other companies and the world went ‘You kidding?’ and it had to be radically altered.
Current EPL debt.
Arsenal £98Mn
Chelsea £110Mn (This excludes £760Mn they technically owe Abramovich)
Liverpool £65Mn
Man Utd £487Mn
Newcastle £130Mn
Spurs £57Mn
Not much point putting Man City in as they have Saudi oil money and are playing fantasy football.
neil canamalar lennon hunskelper extrordinaire
Talking of “lax on terms” should that name not be “extraordinaire”?
Just asking eh.
ernie lynch
13:19 on
16 August, 2012
macjay1 for Neil Lennon
It follows therefore that the fact a number of Australians died in WW2 does not mean that aspects of that country’s history in relation to its aboriginal people should not be described as genocidal.
Ernie
Completely agree.
The issue is simply , as I said before: Is the accusation justified?
I think it is reasonable for accusers to consider their own history before pointing the finger at others.
cardiffbhoy
13:27 on
16 August, 2012
Auldheid.
You made a connection to Celtic that never entered my head.
My point was that Man Utd used to be the city big spenders, now they are not and in an attempt to match Man City they are entering the kind of debt that carries the risk of damaging their business.
Nothing to do with Celtic.
ASonOfDan
13:31 on
16 August, 2012
It’s worth remembering though that the Man Utd debt is in fact the Glazier’s debt which they transferred to the club.
Man U are carrying the Glaziers, not the other way round. That’s what differentiates them from the other clubs with big money owners.
cardiffbhoy
They had to sign him this week as his loan contract had ended.
Neil Lennon has spent two seasons building this team. I like to think it is good enough to get past a mid-table Swedish outfit.
15 days of the transfer window left…
stflannansbg.
no one is denigrading the aussie contribution to the fight against fascism, my offering was to identify the proportion of those who died in the fight.
Every single family who lost relatives have 100% respect, including communist families.
stflannansbg
13:28 on 16 August, 2012
I find it hard to believe that some posters on this site are denigrating the Australian contribution regarding the fight against Fascism. Australia stood shoulder to shoulder with their Commonwealth comrades 1914-1918 and 1939-45.
The,Australian( British) treatment of the indigenous Aboriginal population in the C19th is a separate issue and has nothing to do with Fascism, Kaiser William, Hitler et al.
Australia is a loyal friend of the UK and has many true Celtic minded citizens.
We support Celtic and also our friends in the UK.
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I think you’ll find that most of the people ‘denigrating’ their contribution have indeed recognised that they are separate issues.
I think they are merely pointing out the obvious fact that fighting one bad guy does not eradicate one’s own history of being very much that same bad guy.
Cardiffbhoy
On your Celtic point I agree tweaking is required.
I know Australia had a whites only immigration policy for many years – maybe they still do. A mate of mine, a very fine marine engineer, was refused a work permit on several occasions in the 1980’s because he was Nigerian
ernie
the Glaziers have to date and will continue to amass a fortune courtesy of MU
they now have a debt circa £400m…how much is the club worth tho …?
I hate Brussel Sprouts. Am I a racist?
Hatred is a bad and destructive emotion. Nevertheless it is a valid emotion that occurs. Trying to minimise it is good. Outside of Brussel Sprouts I don’t hate much really.
I do though despise Dobbers and Thatcher.
This may be unfair, unreasonable, irrational or obsessive (or all of these).
Having experienced the dogmatic excesses of ole Mrs in the full glare of her lack of basic humanity, compassion or concern, I will continue to expect to raise a wee toast on her demise. It’s a personal thing not a logic thing.
I confess to being a flawed and failed individual for aw that!
Now who can honestly say on here they have never hated………….?
HH
From the Herald Diary:
WHO says Wishaw doesn’t move with the times?
David Stevenson was visiting the Lanarkshire town where he tried out a branch of the coffee chain Costa. Says David: “Contemplating one of the coffee purveyor’s posters on the wall which claimed that their ‘Coffee is made with amore’, the wee wumman at the next table, clearly puzzled, jabbed her hapless man in the ribs and demanded, ‘John, made with mair whit?'”
magnus,
eyecatching innit :o)
Paul
Last sentence is the ultimate question.
When you read Anthony Beevor’s book, you get the impression that Stalin beat the Nazis, simply because he had a larger population to use as cannon fodder.
I know, it’s a bit more complex than tha but..
ernie lynch
13:24 on
16 August, 2012
They fought communism and they lost.
The V.C. won.
YES.
All I said was that they fought communism.
Didn`t say they beat communism.
Neil
Was Ho a communist?
ASonOfDan
Makes the huns £134million look respectable!!
i think we as celtic supporters ,have to stand up to a board of directors at celtic, no ambition to geninuily go and win the champions league, oh they wont even give the place a lick of paint and other things that need to be seen to, but if it was something to be done at there homes ,you can bet your bottom dollar that who be done jig time. miserable shower
Tootingtim
AsonofDan
While the WSC article you refer to is interesting it is also a wee bit inaccurate.
Serie A has 20 clubs not 18;
Serie B has 22 clubs not 20;
Prima Divisione (3rd tier) has 2 groups of 16 and 18 – not 17 and 18.
HH!!
What happened to the Picts? Most indigenous races did not survive the incursion of superior armed and more sophisticated peoples. USA, Scotland, England, FRANCE ET AL ARE NOT EXCEPTIONAL .
Auld Neil Lennon heid
12:56 on
16 August, 2012
Keep up the good fight; perhaps whoever is drafting the response this time will address the points you raise, as opposed to initial attempt, which failed miserably.
HH
macjay
whould it have mattered what ho was
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Australia
surely if they were fighting communism they would have dealt with these red devils first
timbhoy2 is Declan without the wit and personality…
pleased to find out today that my window cleaner is the Hibbee fan who attacked Andy Goram at Easter Road in 1996.
Keep the change matey!
So …..ehm…….is auld Thatcher deed then?…………( sounds of rapidly retreating foot steps and the slam of a getaway car door)……………