Is it really possible that Charles Green made a genuine oversight and believed that monies due to Rangers FC (IA) could be paid by a debtor to selective creditors in order to let his Newco gain access to the Scottish Football League?
Back in May, while Rangers FC (IA) were adamant they would continue in business, the SPL agreed to pay money due to the club directly to creditors. The club subsequently failed to pay, or agree terms with, creditors and a creditor has asked BDO to liquidate them. The lawyers have earned enough from this saga in recent months, they would be scrambling for Gratuitous Alienation cast studies if the SPL was to selectively pay football clubs.
It looks like Mr Green is tying himself in knots over the Newco/Oldco routine. His attention to detail has the potential to become legendary, however, he is entitled to wonder why the SFA have allowed his Newco membership despite apparently not meeting agreed terms. I am sure the SFA president will be all over this issue like a rash, demanding clear and proper process is followed.
Or is the SFA president still the only man at Hampden who cannot participate in any of the important issues concerning Scottish football?
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Spiers is a panderer,a dissembler,a cretinous excuse for a ‘journalist’ with that godawful puff piece written in order to keep himself in with the psychos who apparently issue death threats at will with no fear of arrest. A scummy, vain man…vying for fantasist of the year award along with his corpulent presstitute pal,Jabba.
And no,I don’t hate them : I despise them and their craven toadying to the worst Scotland has to offer.
Beneath the biscuit tin facade of The Edinburgh Festival and The Tourist Board there is a murky reality lurking in the shadows.
I mean,for cryin’ out loud,’death threats’? Jovially tossed into the happy-clappy garbage from Britnae like they were issued from faeries at the end of the garden,and not violent Loyalist orangutans?
Get real. Scotland is being dragged down a hellishly dangerous road by the bigots at the heart of this so-called footballing scandal. It’s being revealed as much more than that with every passing day,and the b.s. from Mr. B.S. himself is the kind of propagandistic tripe that helps make everything about the excesses of the psychos,okay.
celtic *o* lennon
14:25 on
16 August, 2012
Shit,mate.
You know your stuff.
I think.:-)
C1st.
My deep throat is far too nice a chap to contradict to his face. Have to say he’s not the type to gossip idlly and, as I say, has longstanding family ties to the club. He seemed very chipper about it all but did allow it indicated one or more of Ki , Kayal or Wanyama were defitnitely for the off.
will the newclub if they survive the season, have played if front of more sellout crowds than any other team in the world :o)
its in the spin :o)
Speirs has always been a hun, and will ALWAYS be one!
Yes, there was a time when he tried to come across as the reasonable voice of Scottish sports journalism – but this was just a facade! The ‘man’s’ a coward!
HH!!
Auldheid – fair point, I just think Man U & Man City analogy is very different from us and them, albeit I disagree with United’s current business model.
Asonofdan. I seem to recall the Scottish Champions last season, who had finished ahead of Celtic for 3 consecutive seasons, were knocked out by a midtable Swedish side. (And yeas, I acknowledge their manager was a diddy) We should not fear them, but we should respect them. The squad has been weakened in the close season, although the 1st team hasn’t necessarily. An injury to a key player could see us in trouble. Celtic appear to have a risk averse policy, whereas I think there is a risk in not strengthening, both from the point of view of European progression and from generating interest and additional revenues at home. You’re right though, 15 days to go. Let’s hope we see some activity.
“Was Ho a communist?”
Good question. Ho Chi Minh designed the North Vietnamese flag as an homage to America’s revolutionary origins and its struggle for independence from its colonial masters,the Brits.
He saw his mission as freeing Vietnam from colonialism,using revolutionary principles.
Quirks of history: America used the revolutionary principles from The French Revolution to inspire themselves. And Vietnam used that to free themselves from their French colonial masters only to fall under attack from America. Wheels within wheels.
History is such a tangled web,and who can be sure of anything. Memory is unreliable and it is always the poor who suffer the most ; and they are rarely of any interest to historians.
Ho a ‘Communist’? Who knows. But he certainly was a revolutionary.
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire
It will be right up there with the 500,000 that went to Manchester and we all know how that ended.
Adam? Aye, we are well short of players in the middle of the park…
miki67
14:54 on 16 August, 2012
“Was Ho a communist?”
It certainly suited his purposes to appear to be a communist. China and Russia armed their forces all through the Vietnam war. He was less keen to accomodate them after the US was defeated and I think they even fought some border wars with China for a while when they didn’t fancy China being the next big country to gain a foothold in Vietnam.
‘Experimental’ Celtic side for Saturday?!
Forster
Fisher Fraser Toshney
Irvine
Herron F Twardzik MacGregor
McCourt
Watt Keatings
HH!!
Paul67
Will Ogilvie have no choice but to step down after HMc have finished the investigation?
Regan and Doncaster’s motives are obviously money but Ogilvie’s,especially with his silence and untenable position,are looking downright sinister,how can anybody justify him?
PS Armband for Paddy!
HH!!
I just remembered…I DO hate!
I hate bananas,prunes and semolina. Singly, or in any combination thereof. I hate them,hate them, hate them.
But I only despise the huns, coz they’re just stupid and beneath contempt.
HH!
Blindlemon
Fair enough.
“Was Ho a communist?”
Don’t ask me
I don’t give a damn
Next stop is Vietnam.
THE Scottish Premier League remained locked in talks with the Scottish Football Association today over claims by Rangers chief executive Charles Green that they owe Dundee United money.
Green declared earlier this week that the Ibrox club had paid all of its outstanding football debts to Scottish clubs – a condition of the transfer of SFA membership.
But United responded to that by announcing that they had still to receive a sum of around £31,000 from a Scottish Cup game with Gers last season at Ibrox.
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But Rangers supremo Green yesterday released details of a letter sent by the SPL to Rangers on May 18 – in which the governing body agrees to reimburse United.
And league chiefs are currently speaking to SFA Director of Football Governance Andrew McKinlay in an attempt to clarify their position.
An SPL spokesman said last night: “We are now discussing this matter. We will be making no further comment at this stage.”
Green, however, is in no doubt that it’s the SPL and not Rangers who will have to cough up.
He said: “As previously stated, Rangers Football Club can confirm it has paid all outstanding debts to Scottish football clubs, in addition to agreeing to waive all claims to unpaid fees accrued last season, as part of the Five Party Agreement which was a condition of Scottish FA membership.
“A letter from the SPL to the club – dated May 18, 2012 – stated: ‘The board decided to accede to the application of Dundee United and accordingly, the sum will be withheld from the next sum payable by the SPL Limited to Rangers and the sum will be paid by the SPL Limited to Dundee United.’
“Why the SPL have not paid Dundee United the outstanding sum as previously agreed is a question that they need to answer. We wrote to Dundee Utd on Monday explaining the SPL had previously confirmed they would pay it.
“I spoke to Stewart Regan and his solicitor this morning and provided them with copies of all relevant documentation.”
The SFA are believed to have honoured their side of the agreement.
Green’s new company agreed to pay all football debts as part of the arrangement which saw Rangers’ membership of the SFA transferred. He also agreed to waive the £2.55million Rangers were due for finishing runners-up last term.
This would be the £2.55Mn they achieved by avoiding the paying of Paye & Ni and signing players they are still to pay the fees for.
Very noble of them to ‘waive’ this prize money.
ONLYINSCOTLANDCSC
spiers is a cock
his hunness
is of the masonic type
he hates us thats for sure
I wouldn’t read to much into Liverpool offering Charlie Adams to Celtic for £5m.
How many players have been “offered” to us this close season?
Yawn.
Macjay @ 13.04,
Re your previous post, that’s fine.
I wasn’t belittling the Aussie War effort, but trying to make the point that Poland wasn’t liberated – nor had the Western Allies any plans to liberate it.
CQN’s Shame doesn’t seem to understand that no “commies” died to liberate Poland, tho’ 900 of them died to help the Nazis enslave it in 1939.
This Assange stuf is getting evil
Glenn Greenwald@ggreenwald
KEY FACT HERE: Ecuador FM: we tried to get Sweden to agree to no extradition to US in exchange for Assange going to Sweden – they said NO
Glenn Greenwald@ggreenwald
So maybe the concern that Western govts will act wildly and even lawlessly to get Assange is not, as it turns out, “paranoia”
The British govt is telling the world that its ok to overrun a forign consulate, really really dangerous policy to follow, especially for the British, not a thought for our overseas consulate staff, is this the stupidest statement ever by a British govt.
Tallybhoy
Maybe not quite as experimental as that… ;-) But I would at least play Zaluska, Blackman P Twardzik, Fraser, McCourt, Watt and Ibrahim. Plus 4 others to make up the 11…
ernie lynch
Country Joe (McDonald) and the Fish!
HH!!
Dont think Charlie Adam fits our team photo policy.
madication time for the sea cucumber
macjay1 for Neil Lennon
14:38 on 16 August, 2012
celtic *o* lennon
Military wise the Tet offensive of 68 was a disaster for North Vietnam. The VC forces were decimated beyond repair and I think they only held control of 1 city for more than 24hrs. For one of the 1st times in the war the US got to fight ground battles against an in situ force and they didn’t waste the chance.
Politically it was a disaster for the US and a massive victory for Ho and his generals. Little guys in black pyjamas running all over the US embassy in Saigon chucking satchel charges with abandon took the war into mr and mrs joe average usa living rooms and they didn’t like it one bit. The anti-war movement moved up many gears after these events and were the beginning of the end for US forces in Vietnam.
With the NVA managing to infiltrate the south and send more and more troops and munitions down the ho chi minh trail the VC became expendable and a casualty of war. They still harrassed and annoyed the US troops but never again in sizable force.
The Pantaloon Duck
I know! I probably went a bit OTT with that line-up!
What I was trying to put across is that I feel that more of our young players should be given more game time this season – esp in games like this one on Saturday.
HH!!
Ho’s on first?
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Where is the integrity in having others pay your debts?
Spiers’ mask slips sometimes and reveals the drawing room bigotry present in Scotland.
I read some time ago about how he started to review the first Celtic Minded book, which he could not endure for more than a few chapters, as it was “dripping with Irishness” IIRC.
quick look on twitter Thommo and I’m really glad the stupid huns are bateing him, he knows who he is dealing with :o)
Wanyama is suspended for Tuesday, Kayal, Izzy, Lustig, Wilson, all need game time. The strikers need to discover some form. Ki needs a run out in first team now that he’s back. They should all be playing at some point on Saturday.
The only players who shouldn’t be considered for Saturday are those who are injured (Brown, Forrest, McCourt???).
By all means have a couple of youngsters in the 18 and maybe give them a run out(Twardzyk and Watt being the obvious ones) but not a team full of them.
http://www.celticfc.net/newsstory?item=2949
tallybhoy
15:00 on
16 August, 2012
PS Armband for Paddy!
HH!!
Shantallows finest is injured. Read that Lennon said he got injection and Saturday would be too soon for him.
Disappointing as would be good game to get him and mcgeoch a full 90 mins . Hope watt starts
Tallybhoy
I completely agree with that sentiment. At the risk of tempting fate, we can afford to lose a few games this season so we’re in a much better position than usual when it comes to doing whatever we can to make sure that our best players are available for the really important games like Helsingborgs.
Ernie Lynch @ 13.19,
“The Soviet Union played the greatest part in defeating the Axis powers”: maybe true, tho’ statements of that kind tend to ignore the fact that the Western Allies bore much the greater burden of the fighting in the air & at sea.
What is incontrovertible is that the Soviet Union played the greatest part in helping the Axis, first by giving them the green light to start the War, then by supplying them with fuel & materials while Britain fought(almost) alone. Stalin also helped the Axis by massacring most of the Red Army Command before the outbreak of the War, making his country much easier prey.
The crucial point is that without the Hitler-Stalin pact, WWII might never have broken out: Hitler’s biggest fear was a war on 2 fronts, & Stalin relieved him of that fear. BTW (not directed at you), Britain did not sign a pact with Hitler to help him attack another country & divide it with him (the hypocrisy is breathtaking).
Charlie Adam? No thanks. We could get a couple of very good players for that price and wage
SonofDan
Lennonmc
Exactly. They have paid nothing. That share should have gone to other SPL clubs.
Unless those who should have got paid agreed to forego their share then the SPL and SFA acted improperly towards those clubs.
You can see why no rush to conduct the improper registration issue as it would require the points won last season by ebt players to be removed. There never was £2.25m to waive in the first place.
Another case of Rangers with SFA approval using other people’s money to “pay” their bills.
Now where is Terry O Neil?