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Quick question for you.  Which Scottish team has won their last four home games, scoring 13 goals in the process?  St Mirren are on a run of form at home.  One of those wins was against Second Division opposition, but remember, this season, Second Division teams are on a par with AC Milan in the early 90s.

Ross County scored four at St Mirren Park but St Mirren scored five, while Hearts were despatched 2-0.  This is a team with good home form who kept their squad in place over the international break.  My best advice to you is to avoid betting on this one.

Many clubs have trouble paying their bills but the problem with Hearts and their regular tardiness when it comes to wages, evident again this month, appears to be different.  Hearts cash balances will have peaked weeks, possibly months, ago.  From now on they will be eating into ‘reserves’, or more likely, accruing additional debt at their owner’s bank.  The club have been here many times before and Vlad has dipped into the equivalent of his commercial pocket to avoid an insolvency event but I’ve always found it curious why he didn’t do so on time.  It’s not as though anyone can be surprised pay day is coming.

As such, there appears to be a degree of control over late payment.  The money is always provided but not before pain is passed down from owner to earners, which is a bit curious.

For all his faults, and they are many, Romanov and other shareholders in Ukio Bankas have ‘invested’ countless millions in Hearts, money they are unlikely to get back with the residential property market so depressed.  They have also not exposed the club to outrageous fortune – the overwhelming majority of debt is owed to the bank itself, balances at HMRC and other creditors are low, and they pay their football debts.  This means that if Hearts go into administration, the route back through a CVA would be clear.  The only serious losers would be staff made redundant, while Ukio would face a write-off, perhaps already acknowledged internally.

I was surprised at the news Danny McGrain was appointed first team coach yesterday but also delighted.  Danny’s was not a name mentioned for the position when Alan Thompson left the club but he is immersed in the fabric and culture of our club.  ‘In the days of changing ways’ a strong thread of continuity is an invaluable asset in ensuring the new generations acquire the important elements of our identity.

We are a club in touch with all that is important.

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  1. I agree with Celbridge Celt.

     

     

    I have, unfortunately, heard some callous young Celts singing songs about “stairs” as they came off buses at away matches.

     

     

    It is, thankfully, not a common occurrence but it has happened more than once.

     

     

    The Dalek stuff is pure fantasy.

  2. You can add me to the sheltered life contingent,i know no Celtic

     

    fan that has mocked the Ibrox disaster

  3. South Of Tunis on

    Tontine Tim @ 13 48

     

     

    On the night the first ever Dr Who was broadcast – the TOTP Number one was –

     

     

    You’ll Never Walk Alone .

  4. Just dropped in to say that…

     

     

    On the return from Old Trafford in 1990 from the – Bryan Robson testimonial

     

    we played the huns at CP and we were treated to the huns singing their song

     

    about the Munich disaster. Very nice of them.

     

     

    My wish – that I’m not reading one year from now that

     

    “It’ll no be long till the huns are gone now.”

  5. The dalek stuff is rubbish. Pure invention.

     

     

    It doesn’t help though when posters spout rubbish about Celtic fans never saying anything inappropriate about the Ibrox disaster and then getting hormonal when they’re challenged about it.

     

     

    It simply undermines their credibility when dismissing the dalek stuff. Doctrine of false denial and all that.

  6. Afternoon Bhoys,

     

     

    I tweeted the Celtic Ticket twitter thingamabob to see if there would be a public sale for the Barca home game.

     

     

    I was told (within 20 secs i might add) that there wasn’t any tickets going on general sale.

     

     

    So…………..

     

     

    I’m looking for 2 possibly 4 if on the off chance anyone can’t make it etc.

     

     

    Not holding out much hope though lol

     

     

    Hail Hail

  7. South Of Tunis

     

     

     

    14:07 on 19 October, 2012

     

     

     

    Tontine Tim @ 13 48

     

     

    On the night the first ever Dr Who was broadcast – the TOTP Number one was –

     

     

    You’ll Never Walk Alone .

     

     

    *aye your right enough, it came out in October that year

  8. On the anniversary of humping the now extinct club,Heading for a 5pt lead in the SPL then on to Barcelona, with the best young squad we have had in years and we are wasting precious time talking about dalek comments that are a figment of the imagination of a sick man.

     

    Line ups for tomorrow please or how much are you looking forward to the thought of the buzz our young Bhoys will get lining up against one of the best clubs in the world in the CHAMPIONS LEAGUE next week.

  9. prestonpans bhoys on

    The only time I’ve ever heard the “Ibrox disaster song” was outside Rugby Park in the 70’s.

     

     

    Killie was playing them and the guy, a Killie fan, was well minced. I remember moving quickly away from him before anything happened.

  10. ernie lynch:

     

     

    I have never heard a single Celtic Supporter or fan EVER voice anything derogatory or offensive about those who unfortunately lost their lives at Ibrox.

     

     

    I am not telling you or the blog a lie in saying that.

     

     

    And if I did hear sombody speaking bad of the dead from a football game at Ibrox, I sure as **** would not keep their company.

  11. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Ernie

     

     

    Calling us all liars

     

     

    And you cant name the titles of these songs.

     

     

    Great swathes

     

     

    A lack of hormones is what your displaying.

     

     

    Nothing new there mind you

     

     

    HH

  12. The Laddy McGeary

     

    I got tickets on the day of the Benfica game that benfica returned dont know if Barca will sell all of their allocation but you never know.(well I for one am hoping they dont because I need one) :)))

  13. Add me to the list, guy I played sunday footy died that day.

     

     

    Never heard the term Dalek until a few days ago and I’ve been going to watch Celtic for nearly 45 years !

     

     

    And I aint led no sheltered life !!!

  14. About the seperation between oldco/newco going

     

    on in the msm. It may be that having experienced

     

    the apocalypse they are now having an Epiphany.

  15. James Forrest is Neil Lennon! We are ALL Neil Lennon! on

    fanadpatriot:

     

     

    Perish the thought mate.

     

     

    Malc:

     

     

    Yeah mate. Started it about a fortnight ago. Still messing with a lot of it, trying to get the balance I want. And I’m also trying to find writers so it’s not just me ranting all the time haha.

     

     

    On daleks ….

     

     

    I read Leggat’s despicable allegation regarding that the other day and I can’t register my contempt enough for the kind of sick minded people who appropriate the memories of the dead to score cheap points. It’s disgusting.

     

     

    The damage these people do to Scottish society can’t even be quantified. They are a disease.

  16. leftclicktic

     

     

    I hope so. I had heard that barca returned 1000 tickets. I was just going to drive through to the ticket office after work but the did say no general sale.

     

     

    Not been to a game this season though would’ve been a good one to start with

  17. ernie lynch said

     

     

    “will have heard the songs about the Ibrox disaster. I am an no doubt about that.”:

     

     

    I am in no doubt that “huge swathes” of the Celtic support will have “heard” about many heinous events. Your original post seemed to suggest that that huge swathe actually sang those songs. I KNOW you didn`t actually say that but the impression that that is what you meant is at least a feasible interpretation.

     

    Likewise, when you say that ” It doesn’t help though when posters spout rubbish about Celtic fans never saying anything inappropriate about the Ibrox disaster ” that is misepresenting what was said. I firmly believe that some Celtic supporters will and have sung songs about the Ibrox disaster but I have never heard any.

     

    If what you are really saying is that “huge swathes” of the Celtic support have heard a very small number of Celtic supporters sing these songs then you might have a valid point.Those of us who haven`t have not necessarily lived a sheltered life.

     

     

    JJ

  18. AW NAW

     

     

    You keep asking so..

     

     

    I have heard to the tune of Snoopy vs the Red Barron a

     

    song sung usually by buckie filled individuals on way into games.

     

     

    Not heard for many a year and never by more than a individual or

     

    a small isolated group.

     

     

    BUT personally can’t deny what I heard.

  19. I still have the ticket for the Ibrox disaster game, which I missed due to overindulgence the night before. If I had made my alarm call I would probably have went to the game by the Methil, Burntisland, or Lochgelly supporters bus that passed through Rosyth, or I may have went by car, usually with two Rangers supporting mates and a Celtic fan driving (no colours).

     

     

    We often did the latter and would have a drink in a pub at the Rangers end then go in to the ground at that end and part company. I would make my way round to Celtic end and do the reverse at full time. So I am only too aware that I could have been a casualty.

     

     

    The weeks that followed the disaster saw an unprecedented coming together of all fans and I remember our bus steward on the Methil bus I think (could have been Lochgelly) take a bucket full of coins/notes from the Bridge bar in Kincardine to the other pub there where the Rangers buses stopped.

     

     

    The late Thomas Winning made a speech about that time being the perfect opportunity for Rangers to sign a RC and this would bring the Old Firm sectarian problem to an end.

     

     

    They didn’t it didn’t.

     

     

    I have never heard a song about the Ibrox disaster and wouldn’t support Celtic if there was one sung by any number of supporters in my presence.

     

     

    What really got me about the Ibrox Disaster was that so soon after all sections of society had pulled together to raise a considerable sum of money for the Lord Provost’s Ibrox Disaster Fund, Ranger’s QC (on client’s instruction) argued for these monies to be: a/ taken into account when/if damages were awarded, or b/ the £50,000 that Rangers had put into the fund be taken into account when/if damages were awarded.

     

     

    They had these pleas in law kicked into touch by Sheriff Irvine Smith and though they lodged notice of appeal they dropped it.

     

     

    Did the press Editorials rage at this piece of absolute hypocrisy?

     

     

    No they reported it as if it was the proper thing to do.

     

     

    Can you imagine the rage if Celtic Directors had tried to pull a stunt like that?

  20. Ernie, I’m 36 and a half and I have never heard any Celtic supporter ‘use’ the Ibrox disaster.

     

    Perhaps CQN is the Celtic end and your mind hankers for a Jungle?

  21. .

     

     

    I heard the Ibrox Disaster song a Few times on the Bus.. Usually when we played them..

     

     

    I was Always Immediately Shouted down by the Auldheids

     

    At the Front of the Bus..

     

     

    So all that was Heard was.. 10..20..30………..

     

     

    Summa

  22. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Jc2

     

     

    Fair enough … I have never heard it

     

     

    Sounds like well before my time and I have never heard it.

     

     

    So we are talking pre 1974 if we are talking huge swathes ?

     

     

    HH

  23. Anyway….talking about abusive songs.

     

    I well remember the WORST abusive chants being aimed at one my Celtic – underdog heroes from the 1970’s. For the ENTIRITY of the 1970’s – Paul Wilson was treated to

     

    the worst racial abuse that this country has EVER witnessed. imo

  24. I stood on the jungle including v ragers, although there was

     

    all manners of songs being sung i can`t remember anyone

     

    about the disaster

  25. Jungle Jim

     

     

    14:25 on 19 October, 2012

     

     

    ‘ernie lynch said

     

     

    “will have heard the songs about the Ibrox disaster. I am an no doubt about that.”:

     

     

    I am in no doubt that “huge swathes” of the Celtic support will have “heard” about many heinous events. Your original post seemed to suggest that that huge swathe actually sang those songs.’

     

     

    #####

     

     

    My original post:

     

     

    ‘I have never heard a single Celtic fan say anything derogatory or offensive about the Ibrox Disaster.’

     

     

    Then you’ve lead a very sheltered life.

     

     

     

    ##########

     

     

     

    I think it’s pretty clear what I meant.

     

     

    Other than that we seem to be in agreement.

  26. James Forrest is Neil Lennon! We are ALL Neil Lennon! on

    I was out drinking one night with a former mate of mine. We were on Cambuslang main street, and he started singing something about the Ibrox disaster, in full view of a rather large group of well-oiled young men. They looked at him in utter disgust, and then some punches were thrown and he beat a hasty retreat.

     

     

    He and I haven’t spoken since. First time I’ve ever smacked a “mate”, but then it’s also the first time – and last – time a “mate” came out with something so utterly offensive when I was in the vicinity.

     

     

    I can say, with total honesty, it’s the one time, and the only time, I have ever heard a Celtic fan make a derogatory reference to that event. I got in a fight at Celtic Park once over a muppet behind who shouted something racist at Bobby Petta (and I was not alone taking a shot at that yahoo), but what happened to those football supporters, fans like you and me, like our fathers and brothers, and cousins and friends … so far off limits, so beyond any acceptable conduct … anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

     

     

    To use that lie as a weapon, to stir up hatred … that takes a truly sick mind.

  27. Mullet and Co

     

     

    14:28 on 19 October, 2012

     

     

    Ernie, I’m 36 and a half and I have never heard any Celtic supporter ‘use’ the Ibrox disaster.

     

    Perhaps CQN is the Celtic end and your mind hankers for a Jungle?

     

    ________________________________________________

     

    Trying to say there’s something wrong with the Jungle ? :o)))

  28. Travelled on buses from 3 different Celtic clubs in Greenock home and away in the late 80’s early 90’s, heard plenty of rebel songs but nothing about Ibrox…

  29. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Kevjungle

     

     

    What a sheltered life you have lead

     

     

    Are we about to be fined by Vincent Lunny for the Bobby Mc kean song before the Sevconians can be fined for Stirling Albion ?

     

     

    Embdy have Mags Mc Gills youtube clip from their behaviour from two weeks ago ….now thats what I call swathes.

     

     

    HH

  30. South Of Tunis on

    ernie lynch ——-

     

     

    I make no false denial ————- [ it is my truth ]

     

     

    I have never heard a Celtic supporter making [ or singing ] disrespectful comments about the Ibrox disaster .

     

     

    Unrepresentative me was at the game . Over 40 years have passed —-in all that time I have never heard anything stemming from the mouth of a Celtic supporter which could classed as derogatory / insulting etc.

     

     

    Not once —-/ traveling to games in buses / cars / boats and planes . In boozers before and after games all over Scotland , England and Europe. At Celtic games all over Scotland , England and Europe . On the streets , in pubs and at parties etc etc Not once !…

     

     

    The representative Celtic support must always have been somewhere else .

  31. We used to go to the Jungle for all other games, but the Celtic End for derbies when the Jungle was full of blow-ins (“Where wur yeez for the games against Morton and Partizan Tirana ya part-timers?”, I used to say, but not out loud).

     

     

    There were good people in the Celtic End.

     

     

    They thought we were blow-ins.

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