News that Fraser Forster has signed a long term contract with Celtic, who will pay Newcastle United £2m for his services, adds some welcome stability ahead of the Champions League qualifiers. Buying a new, first-choice, keeper is fraught with the kind of difficulties Neil Lennon would rather avoid.
Last summer we looked at Croatian international Stipe Pletikosa, who performed at the European Championships, but he failed to impress during his trial period at Celtic, including a poor performance against Wolves at Celtic Park.
Last year we also looked at Polish cap, Gregorz Sandomierski, who subsequently went to Belgian club racing Genk for €3m, but he failed to make a competitive appearance for Genk and was shipped back to Poland on loan. By comparison, Forster, who turned 24 on St Patrick’s Day, cemented his place with the champions.
Last year Celtic concluded a provisional deal with Newcastle to sign Fraser on a permanent deal this summer but although player and club were both keen to do business, negotiations took until the end of the players’ summer break, perhaps reflecting a tightening of Celtic’s finances ahead of what could be a period of financial uncertainty in the Scottish game.
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hebcelt on 2 July, 2012 at 14:43 said:
No problem …….ANY team in EPL top 4 = CL
Interesting document doing the rounds on Twitter
http://twitpic.com/a3298v
The FACT that Souness (a violent man if ever there was) received payments via an e.b.t. TEN years after his ‘contract’ at rfc ended is prime facie,de facto evidence that rfc was a criminal enterprise. Apologies if that sounds like pompous harrumphing….it’s still the truth.
And rfc is still dead, even though the msm is still applying electricity to the corpse.
Everything that has happened re. rfc is reflective of the bankster/gangster economy running wild in UKplc for the last 30 years…..and all that is unravelling, too.
(It’s not only football that is bust. The whole system needs shown the red card,penalised and censured.)
Once some contrition is shown,and reparation made then,and only then, will things progress.
Meanwhile the whole shambling shebang lurches onward.
hebcelt,
I think you lose.
When Cardiff went a long way in the FA Cup I’m pretty sure it was reported that they couldn’t play in Europe even if they won it.
Hebcelt
You’re 100% correct. Enjoy your beer!
Hail hail.
happy fraser has signed up, think a powerful centreback and celtre forward are needed to help the team out.
although the squad still needs trimmed to accommodate new faces, otherwise we’ll just get other players that are no better than the one’s that have/ or will leave.
any other clubs said no to newco today?
Starry Plough ….. Where did you hear that ? …. I was recently thinking that tha SFA / SPL were losing the plot…
BobbyRussell on 2 July, 2012 at 13:08 said:
timbhoy2 on 2 July, 2012 at 13:00 said:
I think you`ll find it was a joke. Good rant though.
Sounded like someone had been on the red bull.
gerry on 2 July, 2012 at 14:46 said:
celt for life on 2 July, 2012 at 14:42 said:
Are yo sure it’s 75% they need to pass this???
someone said to me over the weekend all they need is 51%
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I believe Longmuir at the SFL commented that the lawyers are looking at the voting % required, another way of saying we are trying to get it as low as possible.
My main point though is that if you abstain, it is as good as a NO, assuming you need a certain % to vote YES for it to be passed, unless of course they change that as well and declare that anyone who decides not to vote, will have that transferred to the YES numbers.
I would like to see Jabba eat, “Wan moar waffer theen mint,monsieur?”
:-)
Papa Bouba Pre-op on 2 July, 2012 at 13:15 said:
Son of Gabriel on 2 July, 2012 at 12:19 said:
Try popping the phone in a jar of rice, it will draw a lot, if not all the moisture out of it. Do that before taking it anywhere. 24hours or so should do the trick.
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Would that be boiled rice or fried
Hebcelt
Welsh clubs forgo Euro qualification through involvement in the welsh cup, they can qualify only through the FA system, they used to be able to qualify by playing in the English leagues and entering the Welsh Cup,,,,,
hebcelt – I’m with Gordon_J, you’re paying!
T4
Rogue
Structure worth further investigation but whoever came up with the idea of giving ‘the leader of SPL2 the same points as second bottom club in SPL1’ and doing some advanced calculus with the rest need not give up the day job!
HH
celt for life on 2 July, 2012 at 14:42 said:
If they need 75% of the clubs to vote YES to allow them into SFL Div 1, then by abstaining from the vote, does that not have the same effect as voting NO??
30 teams get a vote and so 8 teams need to block this. If one team abstains that leaves 29 and SFL rules are that “75% of votes cast” so abstention not counted. If only 29 teams vote, still need 8 teams to block it so in this case it counts as a YES vote.
If more abstain, then less teams are needed to block it, eg. If 10 teams abstain, then only 6 NOs are needed to block proposals.
Mort
Emilio Estevez to star in a sequel to 1984’s wacky cult comedy “Repo Man”.
Provisionally entitled “Repo Man 2: Repo Men Don’t Do Walking Away”, the film will shot on location at Ibrox and has a reported budget of £1. (thumbsup)
67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon..!!..Truth and Justice HAS prevailed on 2 July, 2012 at 14:51 said:
It’s been Tweeted by a couple of people don’t know much more about it than that, this omnishambles must be attracting their attention by now surely to God!!
The longer this goes on the more I think that SFL3 is a gift to them and they should be eject from football altogether..
Oblivion Express for Sevco..
I thought their funeral was done? I mean,they are a defunct business now. So, all that’s left really is the reading of the will (that should be a hoot) and the discovery of all the dirty little secrets and closeted skeletons. Unexpectedly dead,so like a gangster ambushed,there’s been no time to cover up all the misdeeds and the confederates are now running round like headless chickens,scared out of their wits.
And any new pretender to the vacant throne will have to prove themselves. Either that,or there’ll just be the unholy mess left to be mourned over by the flunkies (in this case,’fans’).
But for the foreseeable future,the blue gang is leaderless,unless of course you want to count Bomber Brown…..
Green? Well he’s just the dodgy undertaker,tryin’ to find some cash stashed about the place.
Anyway,I guess that like the ignominious passing of any impecunious hard man it must’ve been ‘no flowers’ and an unmarked plot in Potters Field.
How the mighty are fallen….especially when no one truly cares…even their own.
hebcelt
I think you have won your bet. When Cardiff were in the FA Cup Final in 2008 there was some dispute over whether they would qualify for Europe had they won it. The FA said no, UEFA said yes. WHen they were in the League Cup final last season, it was confirmed they would go into the Europa if they won it.
starry plough on 2 July, 2012 at 14:46 said:
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Any links? And I don’t mean sausages…..
HH!
Mort on 2 July, 2012 at 14:58 said:
celt for life on 2 July, 2012 at 14:42 said:
Mort, seems to be some uncertainty regarding whether its a 50% or 75% vote to get Sevco 5088 Ltd into the SFL1 as there is no provision in the rules for this course of action…think Paul McConville discussed this in one of his recent articles…
SunnyBhoy on 2 July, 2012 at 14:13 said:
alex thomson @alextomo
SFL Pres and Aidrie Chmn Jim Ballantyne says Aidrie won’t vote on any Rangers Newco issue because if conflicts of interest
Surprise, surprise. #
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If a 75% yes vote is required, then Airdrie are de facto voting AGAINST.
Good old AIRDRIE.
Jim Ballantyne’s conflict of interest is that he is President of the Scottish Football League and serves on the board of the SFA.
We can play the conspiracy theory card in that he had an RFFF badge on at a friendly in Linfield, and while there is truth in it, with a tin hat on he is conflicted by his SFL position. Quite why someone with his past and present is involved in the SFL and the SFA is of course part of the same equation.
Bloke109, 2012
No, it’s more than that…
Bloke109 – that would not prevent him from allowing his club to cast a vote, you are allowed to hold office in both organisations as well as running a club
Mort on 2 July, 2012 at 14:58 said……………..
I don’t think it would be 75% of the clubs which vote.
It would surely be 75% of the member clubs eligible to vote.
So abstention must be a NO vote.
@JamesTraynor
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Mort on 2 July, 2012 at 14:58 said:
celt for life on 2 July, 2012 at 14:42 said:
If they need 75% of the clubs to vote YES to allow them into SFL Div 1, then by abstaining from the vote, does that not have the same effect as voting NO??
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Cheers buddy, understand it fully now. Do you know if there is a number that have to cast a vote to make the vote stand? Say for example 20 abstain, will the result stand.
The Prince of Goalkeepers
No surprise that they don’t know what to do as they have come up with these plans for one reason and haven’t thought through the logistics nor the consequences.
The SFA/SFL have 4 times in the past 20 years admitted new teams to the SFL:
1994 – ICT and Ross County; (to increase League to 40 teams)
2000 – Elgin and Peterhead; (With set up of SPL to increase SFL to 30 teams)
2002 – Gretna; (following demise of Airdrieoneans)
2008 – Annan Athletic. (following demise of Gretna)
Incompetent and untrustworthy they might be, but surely to goodness they followed some procedure to admit all these teams. Why not just follow the same procedure when considering a new application from a new team to join the SFL. Spartans want a place, as do a couple of others and Sevco.
Follow due process in an open and transparent way and then you don’t have to try and gerrymander a voting system to get a particular delinquent club a second chance.
Mort
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QejBwptSQZc
Clicklancashire.com
//’According to reports Celtic passed on a move for Blackburn Rovers goalkeeper Paul Robinson.
The Daily Mail claims the Hoops were offered the chance to sign the former England keeper on loan but they opted instead to pursue a £2 million permanent deal for Fraser Forster.
Robinson is instead expected to complete a £1 million move to Besiktas.
The Turkish side are on the hunt for a new No 1 after veteran Rustu Recber announced his retirement.
The Rovers stopper has decided not to stick around following the club’s relegation to the Championship last season.
Robinson has a year left on his contract at Ewood Park having joined the club from Spurs for £3.5million in 2008.’ //
Why does Ballantyne just not send somebopdy else to vote on Clydebanks behalf?
It depends exactly what the vote is in the SPL what the rules are.
To reconfigure things and allow Sevco straight into division 1 would surely involve rule changes, and that would normally mean a 66% vote of all members is required.
If it gets to voting on a club to fill a vacant position then a simple majority is required.
John Bomber Brown @johnbomberbrown
Statement sent now 2 Scottish Press Association 2 distribute to all media. I’m doing it this way to make sure nothing can be misconstrued.
He’s got someone tweeting for him now hasn’t he ? No way he knows what misconstrued means….
celt for life
Can’t say I noticed that specifically although it day say all member clubs had to send an official and cast a vote (not sure if abstention counts) or face possible sanctions.
As we all know however, this vote is different and rules that have been written will be changed to suit whatever “is best for Scottish football”.
Mort
From STV …Looks like nobody knows
“Lawyers are deliberating over the SFL’s rulebook to determine what majority would be required for any vote to take place, with those at the league unable to reach a conclusion over whether a 50%, 66% or 75% consensus is needed.”
The Onlooker
I’m guessing that once Sevco’s position is decided, the old Rangers will officialy expire ?
At that point, all ties to Oldco will be cut and we’ll see a feeding frenzy amongst the MSM, with them all trying to get the juiciest stories on Oldco to seel their rags to the gullible scottish readership.
I’m still staggered how much credence is placed in what’s printed in hardcopy media. I guess it’s easier to believe what you read, than to say ” really ? is that true ?”, while you’re sitting reading it over your morning tea/coffee.
The majority of people who read these ‘newspapers’ should never be allowed out on their own, and most certainly, should never be allowed to make decisions on anything other than whether they should eat the booger on the end of their finger or wipe it on the window they’ve been licking all morning.
Dead and Loving it on 2 July, 2012 at 13:53 said:
White transit with mattress and ski masks
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Driven by Bomber…