When I researched yesterday’s article (yes, research does happen sometimes) I was far from encouraged. Udinese had an impeccable home record and Snr Di Natale is one of Europe’s irresistible strikers at the moment.
We didn’t manage to resist Di Natale but he will remember Fraser Forster for a few years. We have been fortunate to see a few great goalkeeping performances in Europe in the last decade but last night Fraser was second perhaps only to David Marshall that night in Barcelona. That last minute penalty save against Hearts on Saturday has moved the player onto a new platform.
Udinese had a good 20 minute spell when they looked every inch the team joint top of the Italian league but they were on the rack in the closing stages of the game. Cha DuRi has had an eventful Europa League on the road this season. He was a bit unfortunate at the Udinese goal but completely out of luck when he twisted his body mid-air to volley off the post.
Watching Georgios Samaras last night was a lesson in how complex a game football can be. This is a player who could not hold down a place in the SPL last season, yet playing in a different position he had top-flight defenders throwing themselves at him in order to inhibit progress.
There is still work to be done, but the return of three first choice defenders will enhance the team considerably. The most pleasing thing about last night came after the game; Fraser Forster’s focus was immediately on St Johnstone. It’s all about Perth now.
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Paul 67
I’m a long time reader of this site, though I don’t post much.
I’m looking for a little bit of advice and was wondering if I could pm you somehow?
Dedication????
I vote SNP because I’m a Republican who wants Independance.
You’re obsessed by them, utterly obsessed! I know you’re confused as you are a Republican Unionist, but your obsession is verging on the unhealthy.
Let it go, you’ll feel much better in the long run!
greenjedi says:
16 December, 2011 at 15:21
“Ernie
Why are you so obsessed by the SNP?”
I suspect poor wee Ernie doesn’t even know the answer to that one.
It reminds me of the the guy at school who repeatedly insists “naw, I don’t fancy her”, “naw, she’s a pure dog” but ends up winching her at the 5th year dance.
The Honest mistake,
but both still cheating……and that was always my point!
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
PS – re point 2. If HMRC has their day in court they will be. As for point 3. The huns appealing HMRC’s fines etc would suggest to me that they are indeed testing (or contesting) HMRCs authority.
But enoughs enough, still got much to do and it is getting late on Fri afternoon! Been interesting chatting with you. Toodle-oo.
PPS – remind me never to play poker with you for money, you might just decide you dont agree with the interpretation of the rules……………although I suppose you would at least tell me about it ;-)
ernie lynch sings Paul Robeson sings Kevin Barry
The Token Tim
“do you believe that the banner last night was in the best interests of the Club, the Team or Support as a whole?”
No.
“Did it do the Club, Team or Support as a whole any favours?”
No.
IMO It should have read F*** THE BOARD.
bournesouprecipe
Flaming Mo.
Once he gets the hair-do right there’ll be no stopping him.
ASonOfDan says:
What does your post mean? What does that first line actually suggest?
Hey fella … I am awfully sorry you don’t like what some of the other guys say. I am awfully sorry you don’t like the fact many of us can’t afford – for WHATEVER reason, and mine has nothing to do with being unemployed – can’t afford to buy a season ticket or travel to watch European games.
Unlike a lot of people here, I have never turned supporting Celtic into a trial of how many matches someone has attended in the last ten years. There are guys who DO go very week, who DO pay their money, who booed Fergus Man, who boo every player who misplaces a pass, who shriek the worst kind of insults in a hysterical manner which makes even my most wide-of-the-mark rant look like balanced debate, who pick favourite players who can do no wrong and never see the good others do …
Are they bigger fans than the guy who attends whenever he can and treats any criticism of a guy in a hooped shirt, no matter how awful, as an act of treason?
Of course not. Ernie pulled me up earlier – rightly – in a manner not unlike what you just posted, but he was doing it to make a point, and I understood that even as I responded to him.
He was pulling me up because I seemed to be maintaining that some Celtic fans are more equal than others. He was right because I did make a stupid point when I said they were not behaving like Celtic fans … when what I should have said is they are not behaving in the best interests of Celtic. So apologies to him, and others, for that.
Your own point is daft. It’s beneath you. That’s not how you measure a man’s commitment.
I posted last night I would ask Siobhan McMahon for her statement at Holyrood and would post it when I got it. Here it is below.
Siobhan McMahon (Central Scotland) (Lab): I will address the two primary flaws in the bill. First, it is ill defined, especially in its failure to outline what constitutes sectarian or offensive behaviour. Secondly, it is too narrow in scope and content and advances no strategy for combating sectarianism in a broader societal context.
The antisectarian charity, Nil by Mouth, defines sectarianism as
“Narrow-minded beliefs that lead to prejudice, discrimination, malice and ill-will towards members, or presumed members, of a religious denomination.”
The bill contains no alternative definition. It is general where it should be specific and it is turgid where it should be compact. According to the policy memorandum, the bill’s aim is
“to tackle sectarianism by preventing offensive and threatening behaviour related to football matches … particularly where it incites religious hatred.”
However, nowhere in a forest of disparate words and phrases does the bill mention Catholics or Protestants or refer to sectarianism.
Evasiveness is a theme of the bill, especially in relation to what constitutes offensive behaviour.
One requires only the most cursory knowledge of Scottish football to appreciate that some songs, chants and slogans are brazenly aggressive and discriminatory and others are not. A refusal to engage with that reality and adopt a more detailed and constructive approach has rendered the bill confused and ineffective. According to the BBC’s world service, “A Nation Once Again” has been voted the world’s most popular song. “Give Ireland back to the Irish” was written by Sir Paul McCartney, and “Sunday, Bloody Sunday” by John Lennon. “The Soldier’s Song” is the national anthem of Ireland. All those songs are commonly sung on the terraces. Are they to be banned?
The bill’s barometer of offensive behaviour is
“behaviour that a reasonable person would be likely to consider offensive.”
At the weekend, Scottish Police Federation chairman Les Gray said that if we have to tell people what is offensive and what is not we are in big trouble. That is the same man who said:
“I’ve been in homes with King Billy on the wall and on the other side with the Pope on the wall, and both sides are just as bad.”
If such an enlightened attitude is typical of a reasonable person, I agree that we are in big trouble.
In practice, the task of negotiating the minefield of deciding who is reasonable and what is abusive will fall to the police. I am a proud Celtic supporter and I have followed my team far and wide, in stadiums throughout the country. I have heard and seen things that I found offensive. I have heard rival fans sing that I am in the wrong country, that the famine is over so why don’t I go home, and that I only sing in the chapel. I have seen potatoes thrown at Celtic fans, as bananas were once thrown at black footballers. I have heard Irish nationals—yes, Irish nationals—such as Aiden McGeady and James McCarthy, being booed and taunted in football grounds up and down the country.
However, when I have pointed out the culprits to police officers, I have been ignored or told that the perpetrators will be dealt with later. Not once has my complaint been acted on. I do not understand the logic of handing the police additional powers when they are failing to use the powers that are at their disposal.
Moreover, the police will never eradicate sectarianism, because they are dealing only with the symptoms, not the causes. Until we recognise that sectarianism is a societal problem, which requires a sophisticated response, we will never make progress. In stark contrast to a rushed and ill-conceived bill, Scottish Labour’s 11-point action plan incorporates three key elements: examination, education and communication. It features a raft of innovative proposals, including a proposal for a comprehensive review of how educators can promote religious and cultural tolerance.
Education is the most effective way of confronting bigoted attitudes. It should begin in schools but it should not end there. Colleges, universities and employers throughout the public and private sectors should be required to conduct regular seminars and workshops that promote tolerance and understanding within and between faiths and cultures.
The only way we can rid ourselves of sectarianism is to broadcast the message loud and clear: in 21st century Scotland sectarianism—like racism, anti-Semitism and homophobia—is utterly unacceptable. I urge members to consider the points that I have made. I ask them to vote with their consciences and to vote against the bill.
Johnny Clash.
Are you suggesting that Oor Erudite Ernie stayed on after Fourth Year ?
Astounded of Forehead..!!
JohnnyClash says:
16 December, 2011 at 15:30
greenjedi says:
16 December, 2011 at 15:21
“Ernie
Why are you so obsessed by the SNP?”
I suspect poor wee Ernie doesn’t even know the answer to that one.
It reminds me of the the guy at school who repeatedly insists “naw, I don’t fancy her”, “naw, she’s a pure dog” but ends up winching her at the 5th year dance.
…………….
I was think it was more likely Christine Grahame or some other SNP bird knocked him back!
Dont forget to tune in to the agenda driven fone in’s where we can all be morally outraged to our hearts content.
Please love us Scottish media, pleeeeease!
Mo Bangura is deliberately not going for goal just now because he doesn’t want to tip off the centre halves he’ll be playing against next season when he gets his big move to the Premiership.
Maks sense to me, and it maks sense tae Mo.
Greenlion2:
Not everyone in that glorified university debating chamber is an embecile.
That is erudite, incisive and brilliant in parts. Thanks for posting that mate.
The Honest Mistake says:
16 December, 2011 at 15:03
not at all. binary thinking like doesnt get anyoen anywhere
if you;d read what i posted after we were fined by uefa you would have seen that i wasnt pointing the finger at the green brigade as i didnt have any evidence that it was them. the banner last night was a green brigade banner.
An imbecile even.
Dear oh dear. Don’t want the grammer and spelling police on my case!
I have enough trouble as it is today ….
greenjedi
Your posts read like you are baiting/trolling, a wee bit hunnish don’t you agree.
Anyway, did you mangage to check the colour of the ribbons on your great uncles medals and what the number and name stamped on it were? I know somebody who says he has access to the register.
how can some on here critizise bangura ,for god sake he comes on late on games so he dosent have enough time to show what he can do,so lay off him, on sunday up at perth i would pair him with stokes they 2 have a bit of pace about him,hoopers ok but to me he dosent work hard enough, so is it worth giving bangura and stokes a go on sunday.
It was a rant that built up a head of steam. Detest the finger pointing and morale outrage on here by some against people who actually commit their time and money supporting Celtic where it counts.
On the Terraces!
James Forrest
Don’t want the grammer and spelling police on my case!
Neither would I, especially since Kelsey turned blue and became X-men ambassador.
ASonOfDan:
I know lots of Supporters with season tickets who can’t ever get to the games. But they bleed the same shade of green as those who do sit in the stands. Terraces are so yesterday.
Greenlion2,
Well said, Siobhan McMahon. An excellent critique of the legislation.
ernie lynch 14,48.
James Forrest.
You don’t care about Celtic.If you did you would have been at the game lending your support to the team.
Ernie I Don’t agree with Jim’s full rant but what you say is just silly
up_over
I’ve seen milk turning quicker, couldn’t trap a medicine ball, pity his turns weren’t as tight
as his curls.
Apart from that, he’s looking like one for the future.
It’s a shame that the Celtic supporters who unfurled the banner at the game last night hadn’t made a better choice to show their contempt.I would have chosen as a better choice, THE SNP.
Aside from Kelvin Wilson, are there any of the other notable absentees available on Sunday? Joe Ledley tweeted that he would be back for Kilmarnock.
ASonOfDan says:
And, again, I would suggest that is NOT the only place it counts.
But all that is by the by … your position appears to be that those who are at games are sanctified and their rights are not be messed with.
Well guess what? It’s not the armchair fans or the stay-in-the-pub lads who are going to land us in bother.
Cause in the end this isn’t really about free speech or anything else. Where were these guys when Rangers fans were being dragged through UEFA? Were they writing letters in support of the Billy Boys? No, they were laughing their backsides off and applauding the courage of the organisation they now castigate.
This is about pursuing agendas, nothing more. At the expense of our club. I personally don’t care whether they did it from Glasgow or flew over there on the official club flight. Whether they paid their way with dole money or used their Amex Gold Cards.
timbhoy2 says:
16 December, 2011 at 15:45
“how can some on here critizise bangura”
Too true! Some posters – DBBIA, the thinking woman’s Gordon Dalziel, springs to mind – come on here and repeatedly have a go at Mo for no reason other than the fact that he hasn’t scored any goals.
Drop top scorer Hooper and give Mo a go I say. If we’re not prepared to give him his chance he’s got no hope of making it to the EPL.
Hi Lhads
Thanks for the Birthday wishes
Just back from a great lunch with my work and now doing my best Impression of Le Pétomane.
Love
If DBBIA is the thinking woman’s Gordon Dalziel I reckon JohnnyClash is is the college girl’s Giles Brandreth.
Just popped in to say….
Sundays game at McDaimid Park is on delayed transmission on, BBC Alba @ 17:30pm
Apologie’s if already posted!
Adios CQN
Ole Johnny Clash @ 15.57
-maks sense tae me, maks sense tae Mo.
BK
Harsh!
Have you been checking out my sweaters?
timbhoy2
Too right mate, can’t understand people coming on here and giving their own opinions instead of someone else’s.
Mo (the bounce) CSC
How can anyone listen to Siobhan McMahon and then choose to vote that piece of trash through. The SNP are dangerous and for the sake of Scotland should be voted out.
Green jedi
It’s just that you haven’t uttered one word of criticism of the SNP but never stop attacking Celtic fans.
Now, you may not have noticed, but the SNP’s flagship policy to date is one that directly affects Celtic fans, and not in a good way.
Your priorities seem a bit skewed.
So far as the politics go I don’t have a problem with Scotland being part of the UK. As someone from an Irish Catholic background I’m glad that we’re part of the UK. It affords a degree of protection from the worst excesses of an element of Scottish society. An element that doesn’t have a counterpart in England.
You on the other hand support a political party that is rooted in anti Irish Catholic racism.
You guys sticking up for the snp. That government destroyed 4 years worth of data proving that RCs are in great danger in this wee country.
Re Sunday’s game -any bhoy know the Gaelic for ‘Is Zheng Zhi eligible?’