Green has more to worry about than title stripping

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Charles Green, owner of “The Rangers Football Club Limited“, formed in May this year, yesterday released a remarkable statement yesterday, ahead of the SPL Commission into How Rangers FC, formed in 1872, registered football players for over a decade.

“In short, what was decided by the SPL membership is that Rangers was finished as a member of the SPL. Despite this, the SPL now see the new owners of the company, and the new company itself, which owns all the assets of Rangers FC – including SPL championship titles – as fair game for punishment for matters that have nothing to do with us at all.”

We dealt with the purchasing of history on here some months ago. Once we realised it was possible, I snapped up ancient Egyptian history, the period from the pharaohs until Mark Antony. I AM responsible for the Pyramids of Giza but any slavery which may or may not have been used in their construction is NOTHING to do with me.

No one complained about the use of slaves at the time and I am sure each pyramid would have been constructed whether slaves were used of not. If slaves were so necessary for the construction I am sure “we” would have built many more.

Mr Green seems keen to protest against the SPL process, however, he, frankly, fails miserably. He doesn’t “question the impartiality of the individual panel members” but assets “whatever decision they reach is a decision of the SPL”.

So that will be independent members reaching a decision for the SPL! I think he doth protest too little.

There is also a threat: “”To make it crystal clear, the new owners purchased all the business and assets of Rangers, including titles and trophies. Any attempt to undermine or diminish the value of those assets will be met with the stiffest resistance, including legal recourse.”

Charles Green took steps to undermine his new company’s claim on Rangers titles in a BBC interview in June when he said that if his CVA proposal was to fail (which it did) and Rangers were to be liquidated (which they are), “the history, the tradition, everything that’s great about this club is swept aside”.

“Legal recourse”, which is prohibited by Fifa and which the SFA accommodated from Duff and Phelps, acting on behalf of Rangers, will provide Scottish football with a further drama.  We mentioned at the time that the true cost of the SFA being so accommodating would be a repeat performance.

Mr Green asks why the “football authorities do nothing to address an issue that was public knowledge for at least two years, and was reported in the Club’s accounts for several years”? I think I can help here. Sir David Murray, who owned Rangers during the duration of its Employee Benefit Trust years, categorically denied that the club issued players with second contracts which were not submitted to the authorities. He reiterated this point most recently on a Sky News interview in March.

The football authorities have no issues whatsoever with Employee Benefit Trusts, it’s player contracts they insist are registered. Rangers insisted they had no case to answer until the SPL set a deadline on Duff and Phelps to fully disclose the nature of the alleged second contracts.

Charles claims during those lurid weeks when the SPL and SFA were negotiating with Green, that Neil Doncaster “repeatedly stated he was not interested in stripping titles from Rangers”. If he had evidence of this, ANY evidence, it would be fascinating.

If not, we should dismiss this claim.

A curious barb is made in other directions, “Rangers was not the only Club in Scotland to use EBTs yet nothing was done and little has been heard about it”.

One more time, for Mr Green’s benefit, EBTs are not against football regulations whatsoever. They are entirely legal and permitted by the SFA and SPL. The SPL Commission is not investigating whether Rangers used EBTs or not, it will investigate whether or not all player contracts were registered.

Mr Green goes on to make varied comments against “powerful representatives from Clubs within the SPL…. who appear hell bent on inflicting as much damage on Rangers as possible”, and that some “clubs were placed in an invidious position and we believe their interests were not best served by those in more powerful positions”.

Let’s have some context here. If we were to make a list of those who inflicted most damage on Rangers, representatives from other clubs would scarcely merit a mention. Those who allowed the club to spend more than it earned for so many years, who introduced the perilous tax avoidance system, those who failed to make accommodations for HMRC’s claim when it was first made, and those directors who personally benefited from the EBT scheme all carry primary responsibility.

Then would come the cheerleaders for the disastrous Craig Whyte regime – those who last year campaigned for the takeover, including putting pressure on Lloyds Banking Group to accept the terms.

Rangers opponents were spectators throughout this period. Any suggestion that our club were anything but opponents to Rangers, and alleged victims of trophies won by illegally registered players, when they should have been campaigning on behalf of their rivals, seriously misreads what was an established Glasgow rivalry. Of course it would be the same the other way – and rightly so.

Despite clearly feeling strongly about the Commission, Green didn’t address the key point….

There was no denial of the central charge that for a decade or more Rangers fielded improperly registered football players.

Yesterday some people suggested Green had offered the Lance Armstrong defence but Armstrong denied he was guilty while refusing to participate in the investigation into doping. This is a different matter altogether. Green has offered up something for every conceivable paranoid condition without actually claiming Rangers are wrongly accused.

The headlines today are all about titles being stripped but that is not the main topic in play. More importantly, after titles are stripped, what punishment will the SPL Commission levy on the Rangers membership, granted to Sevco in June?

The sheer scale of the charge makes this question incalculable. The toxicity attached to that membership is untenable and no bogeymen at other clubs, at the SPL or SFA are responsible for that.

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  1. The Battered Bunnet on

    Two CQN heavyweights lock horns on the prickly topic of the Hedgehog population crisis. It’s like the Manatee Spring all over again.

  2. Why are oldco/newco/sevco (?) owed money by UEFA for Euro 2012?

     

     

    There were NO players contracted to any of those ‘entities’ at Euro 2012!

     

     

    We had 3: Sammi, Lustig and Darren O’Dea.

     

     

    HH!!

  3. Marrakesh Express on

    Just listened to a programme on BBC 5Live where panelists discussed the standards of journalism and new approaches to selling newspapers due to falling sales. I was thinking that while this may be the case in England, its not so up here. A single gutter hack, namely Keith Jackson, was allowed the freedom to proclaim that a certain entrepreneur had wealth ‘off the radar’, when the dogs in the street knew it was all garbage. Its not the point that he got it wrong, its more the point that Jackson, like Traynor, Keevins and others, are allowed carte blanche to write anything to appease the hun readership. And I mean anything, from £700 million casino projects to the demonisation of Neil Lennon.

     

    The fact they alienate a good chunk of the Celtic support obviously doesnt matter. You wonder if the English parent company realises this.

     

    The great paradox then is that the Scottish msm supplied the trojan horse for Craig Whyte to enter Ibrox and destroy it from within, at the very same time their newspaper sales plummeted.

     

    You couldnt make it up…well they did and look whats happening to them (thats the DR AND Oldco/Newco).

     

     

    hh

  4. Just reading back to Goosy’s wee tale.

     

    Was there not a similar type wheeze featured in the Jack Nicolson film “Chinatown”.

  5. Marrakesh Express

     

     

    Watch what you’re saying Jackson was the journo(?) of the year.

     

    Like picking oot nicest turd in the sewage works.

  6. I see the ole FPLG says in the Evening Times that………………………………………….

     

     

    “He’s 100% behind Charles Green’s decision not to attend today’s SPL buffet”

  7. I have emailed the ECA (those who today approved payment of circa €300k to Rangers) if they consider ditching debts and starting a new club as a good way to adhere to financial fair play regulations. I have also asked which entity this payment will go to.

     

     

    If I ever get a respone I will copy it here.

     

     

    Mort

  8. The Battered Bunnet on

    DBBIA

     

     

    I heard they all emigrated to the Western Isles, whereupon there was some manner of Erinaceinaeic cleansing.

  9. traditionalist88 on

    575 European clubs to receive a share from the UEFA EURO 2012 benefits

     

     

    Following on from this summer’s successful UEFA EURO 2012 tournament, UEFA has today finalised the financial provisions related to the tournament in order to confirm the payments to the clubs for their contribution to the competition and national team football in general, during the 2010/11 and 2011/12 seasons.

     

     

    In total, 575 clubs will receive payments, in accordance with the renewed Memorandum of Understanding which was signed between ECA and UEFA in March 2012. This represents a substantial increase in beneficiaries when compared to the distribution after UEFA EURO 2008, for which 180 clubs received payments.

     

     

    With €100m available for UEFA EURO 2012, €40m has been reserved for those clubs which released players for the qualifying matches, while the remaining €60m has been distributed to the clubs which released players for the final tournament. In accordance with the detailed distribution mechanism agreed between UEFA and the ECA, clubs receive an equal share per player released for each qualifying match, and a fixed amount per player per day, weighted with the FIFA categorisation of clubs for training compensation(see details below).

     

     

    The top five clubs benefiting from solidarity payments from UEFA EURO 2012 are:

     

     

    FC Bayern München

     

    € 3,095,393

     

     

    Real Madrid CF

     

    € 2,996,585

     

     

    FC Barcelona

     

    € 2,210,202

     

     

    Manchester City FC

     

    € 2,069,465

     

     

    Juventus

     

    € 2,023,012

     

     

     

     

    In order to be eligible for a share of the benefits from UEFA EURO 2012, clubs were asked to fill in, sign and return a club application form to UEFA, in which they agreed in particular to support national team competitions and to comply with the FIFA regulations on the release of players.

     

     

    For the full list of the clubs, and the total amount received by each club, see attached document.

     

     

    Commenting on the solidarity payments, ECA Chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, said: “The European Club Association is pleased that its contribution to the success of UEFA EURO 2012 has been recognised and justly rewarded by UEFA. This shows the excellent relationship that exists within the football family in Europe, as we work hand in hand to shape the future of our game.”

     

     

    Michel Platini, President of UEFA, said: “I am delighted that we are able to provide clubs with financial benefits from UEFA EURO 2012 to reward their contribution to the competition. We witnessed a truly fantastic UEFA European Football Championship final round this summer, and I am pleased that the clubs can now also be associated with the event.”

     

     

    For UEFA EURO 2016, the target total amount to be distributed is set at €150m.

     

     

    Participation of clubs in the benefits of UEFA EURO 2012 – Distribution mechanism

     

     

    1. Qualifying competition (€40m)

     

     

    For the qualifying competition, the concept is to reward the actual release of the players. Each club that released a player to the national team for a qualifying match (incl. play-offs) receives a fixed amount per player per day. Only players who were listed on the match sheet (maximum of 18 players per team) will be taken into account.

     

     

    The exact amounts are as follows:

     

     

     

    National team that played eight qualifiers

     

    National team that played 10 qualifiers

     

    National team that played 12 qualifiers

     

     

    Amount per player per match

     

    €5,241

     

    €4,192

     

    €3,494

     

     

     

     

     

    National teams of Poland and Ukraine: As the national teams of Poland and Ukraine did not play any qualifying matches, the ten friendly matches played by each of these two national teams on qualifying match dates (excluding play-off match dates) were taken into account. However, only players who were fielded either as starters or substitutes during these matches were taken into consideration.

     

     

    2. Final tournament (€60m)

     

     

    A club’s share of this amount is calculated based on:

     

     

    the number of players selected for a national team which qualified for UEFA EURO 2012;

     

    the number of days each player was at the final tournament, starting two weeks before the first match of his national team and finishing the day after the national team’s last match in the final tournament; and

     

    the FIFA categorisation of clubs for training compensation, as per the latest guidelines as set out in FIFA circulars No. 1249 and 1299.[1]

     

     

    The exact amounts are as follows:

     

     

     

    Category one club

     

    Category two club

     

    Category three club

     

     

    Amount per player per day

     

    € 6,795

     

    € 4,530

     

    €2,265

     

     

     

     

    Injured players: For a player included in the original squad list of 23 players who was injured and replaced before the first match of his national team, payment will only be made for the number of days the player was present during the two weeks before the first match of his national team. For the player who replaced the injured player, payment will be made from the day of replacement until the day after the national team?s last match in the final tournament.

     

     

     

     

     

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    [1] The categorisation of clubs is as follows:

     

    Category one: First-division clubs from ENG, ESP, FRA, GER, ITA and NED

     

     

    Category two: First-division clubs from BEL, DEN, GRE, POR, RUS, SCO, SUI, SWE, TUR, UKR and second-division clubs from ENG, FRA, GER and ITA

     

     

    Category three: First-division clubs from CRO, CZE, ISR, POL, ROU and third- and lower-division clubs from ENG

     

     

     

    http://www.ecaeurope.com/news/575-european-clubs-benefit-from-uefa-euro-2012/

  10. VP

     

     

    I must strongly disagree with you.

     

     

    The sewage works performs a vital and life sustaining purpose treating effluent.

     

     

    Scottish sports Journalists on the other hand simply regurgitate such effluent thereby making life unpleasant for us all.

     

     

    It is thought that excessive effluent consumption leads to the condition of Delusional Denial ( common name Sevconius Stupiditus)

     

    S

  11. patmcgrathtakesapenalty on

    I keep up to date with the site but seldom post. What I would like to know is am I the only one who finds a close resemblance, despite his Yorkshire origins between CG and that well-known upstanding, straight-dealing entrepreneur of yesteryear, Arthur Daley? That velvet collar is a giveaway.

  12. Orcs lost in Paranoia City:

     

     

    “You B******s have cheated us for eleven years so deserve to lose your titles”

     

     

    Was it Rod MacKenzie (of Harper MacLeod) who said it?

     

     

    Who else was present?

     

     

    When was it said?

     

     

    If this wasn’t just a rumour now would be a good moment for it to be made more public.

     

     

    Fonald Dindlay fae Prestwick reassures his blue brother with the following:

     

     

    The thing is though, we didn’t cheat anybody. We haven’t even been found guity of ANYTHING. We are INNOCENT. We are like newborn babies with empty quivering egg minds. Also, EBTs were in the accounts, there for all to see. We have nothing to hide. We are the victims of a terrible conspiracy made up by very evil people. We are as white as Doves frolicking on new linen sheets…as white and pure as lambs running on late spring snow…we are like children running through the purity of mountain rain…we are as innocent as a baby seals eyes…sinless as the hairs on the baby Jesus’ head…as innocent…well it goes on and on but it would just give you the dry boak.

  13. Marrakesh Express on

    Vogue punter

     

    Lol!

     

     

    Bournesouprecipe

     

    It wasnt long ago that FPLG backed bomber brown when the screaming skull told the baying orcs to not even buy a pie while Green was in charge. You get the feeling that wee Ally is getting used and sadly he’ll be the first one emptied when, if ever, they get taken over by real people.

     

     

     

    hh

  14. Bhoys and ghirls, please say a wee prayer for my wee granny, she’s 85, bed ridden and suffers dementia. She was rushed to the western last night with a urine and chest infection and now she has pneumonia and isn’t responding well

     

     

    hope everything goes ok for your granny and yourselves.

     

     

    my own granny suffered dementia for years, very tough on family.

     

     

    prayers offered.

  15. just back in oz after thailand, cheers to everyone who sent info on singapore airport.

     

     

    we couldn’t stay in main part of terminal cause we were travelling with a budget airline, had to leave at midnight last night and get hotel to book into until our flight today. so just be careful if anyone ever travelling through singapore and check your entitled to the best facilities.

     

     

    looks a great city by the way, like to do few nights there at some stage.

  16. It’s true that Hedgehogs have went out of fashion- they are too brown. They’ll need to wait until brown becomes the new black again. By my calculations that should be somewhere between 2018 and 2022- buy your shares in hedgehogs early to make a quick profit ( wink wink). I know what I’m talking about: my uncle is a shepherd in a hedgehog farm up in Durness.

  17. hendrix67

     

    You & your gran in my thoughts and prayers.

     

    My mum (77) was diagnosed with dementia last year so far life is manageable for everyone but watching it consume my mum is a hard one to take.

     

    Is Campbell Ogilvie still in a job have the SFA ludge responded to chuck yet,wheres walter & bomber have sevco hit the wall YET.

     

    Questions questions questions.

     

    Off to my group meeting, till later MAY ONLY GOOD THINGS COME YOUR WAY.

     

    Ps Paul loving the yellow in your “new article posted” had my “scullery” or as they say in Coatbridge kitchen :)) painted that colour once after making deal when i got married “you pick the colours dear I will put the paint on the walls”. Thats my anonymity on here oot the windae on a dark night you could see my house for miles.

     

    HAIL HAIL

  18. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    TBB- not for the first time you raise an interesting point- why did the hedgehog population in the Western isles reach the level where they were considered pests?

     

     

    Fewer predators? Less prolific use of pesticides? Or are the roads quieter as ole Johnny Clash refuses to pay to put his Opel Kadett on the ferry?

  19. craigwhitesoptometrist says u have 21/20 vision, is that even possible? on

    Finally after 5&1/2 hours and 4 different computers never mind countless phone calls I’ve got the euro champs ticket package, nightmare.

  20. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    Another hazard for the furry fauna of Shangri-La to negociate as the Tour of Britain Cycle Race arrives.

     

     

    Fingers crossed ole Wiggo looks where he’s goin’.

  21. The Battered Bunnet on

    Surprised Charlie Adam isn’t in the squad for tonight’s game. Is he injured?

     

     

    Snodgrass and Naismith were out of touch against Serbia and are rightly demoted, while Hutton, a slow-mo car crash on saturday, retains his place, but I thought Adam did well enough in the middle, albeit his execution of the final ball was ‘suboptimal’…

     

     

    Looks to me as though wee Maloney’s getting the nod to play in the space ahead of the midfield, hence the exclusion of Adam, with Forrest and Mackie either side.

     

     

    Miller though was pants on Saturday, and his inclusion again tonight exemplifies the dearth of decent strikers produced in Scotland these past 10 years. Between Kenny Miller and Tony Watt the roll call of Scots Striking talent includes the likes of Craig Beattie, Darren Mackie, Kevin Kyle and Garry O’Connor. No disrespect to any mind.

     

     

    The shebawz with Stephen Fletcher is rather unfortunate in this regard.

     

     

    Looking forward to a few years time when Rhodes and Watt amongst others are first choices up front.

     

     

    BTW If we draw tonight and someone tells you it’s not a bad result, give ’em a kindly slap.

     

     

    BTW BTW

     

     

    C Levein’s record: P21 W10 D4 L7 Win rate 47%

     

    Cardigan’s record: P16 W7 D5 L4 Win rate 43%

  22. Marakesh

     

     

    …. Ally is getting used and sadly he’ll be the first one emptied when, if ever, they get taken over by real people

     

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    Are you kidding – he is a vile git who deserves everything coming his way …. and MORE!

     

    I actually find him worse than the englishman

  23. is there any txt messages doing the rounds for wee oscar ? quick description of what the wee man is suffering and where to donate money too ?

     

     

    would like to send it on to few friends .

     

     

    gonna make donation myself this week.

     

     

    thanks

  24. Is that the Opel Kadett HS with the front splitter/air dam thingummy?

     

     

    Not very Erinaceinae-friendly, is it?

     

     

    Tsk, tsk…

  25. Wonky – Nah, forget it. The same people that are saying that hedgehogs will come back into fashion are the same ones who keep predicting the successful return of the maxi dress. It was wrong then and it’ll always be wrong. Anyways, huge snails are the ‘new hedgehogs’.

     

     

    DBBIA – Having spent a week in the Hebridees earlier in the year I can confirm that the hedgehogs there have now been culled, stuffed with potatoes, spikes removed and are sold to the Yanks as an authentic local delicacy. Some smaller ones are sold as gonks in the gift shop on the CalMac ferry.

  26. The Battered Bunnet on

    DBBIA

     

     

    I understand that ground nesting sea birds had few predators on the Western Isles. No foxes on the islands you see.

     

     

    Hedgehogs arrived on Eastern European passports and promptly started stealing our eggs and taking all manner of other benefits, causing a boom in hedgehog numbers and a dive in ground nesters. Populations of each have yet to reach equilibrium.

  27. timabhouy

     

     

    Not giving up hope, but realistically she would be better off. She has no quality of life. The doctor says she has fluid in her lung which may lead to cardiac arrest. My dad has told them not to resuscitate. She’ll be in a better place.

  28. Are hedgehogs not very useful for the environment?

     

     

    Do they not prey on pests – no not huns they are a completely different problem – like certain insects and rodents? Not sure.

     

     

    Found one in the garden a number of years ago – ‘phoned the SSPCA who very kindly came and took him/her away.

     

     

    HH!!

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