Well done to Hibernian fans for turning up in sufficient numbers to increase turnover to £8.0m from £6.9m the previous season, allowing the club to turn a profit in Armageddon season, despite some mediocre performances on the field. The challenge for chairman Rod Petrie is to ensure the elevated income level results in the club outperforming village clubs, who survive on a fraction of Hibs income.
Hibernian should tower over St Johnstone, Inverness, Ross County and Motherwell in the race for second place.
Debt remains high at £5.5m (if Celtic’s debt was a similar proportion to turnover it would be circa £40m) but with the wages to turnover ratio at 49% there is scope to both bring debt down and get better value for money on the field.
30 friends, family and supporters of the Tommy Burns Skin Cancer Trust will be leaving Celtic Park on tomorrow afternoon heading to Dingwall where they will start a 400 mile cycle round every Scottish Premiership ground returning to Celtic Park on Sunday 15th September at 3:30pm. Their goal is to raise £100k for Melanoma Action and Support Scotland (MasScot) who are looking to introduce Scotland’s first ever mobile skin cancer screening unit which is bound to save lives given the success rates when diagnosing melanoma in early stages.
You can follow the team @TommyBurnsSCT and on Facebook this week as they begin this amazing fundraising event. Please support the team if you can at MyDonate. Packie Bonner and Frank McGarvey are signed up and Bertie Auld is getting involved in the final day.
You can participate in the last hour of the cycle, from St Mirren to Celtic Park, leaving around 2:30 on the Sunday, by emailing scottmcgarvey@gmail.com. Scott will get you organised and help with a fundraising page.
Our thoughts to Jock Stein’s surviving family today, 28 years after his death, as another former Celtic manager prepares Scotland for a World Cup qualifier. Those old enough to remember his time have a gift which the young will never know.
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5k euro fine for fireworks
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24037352
Lymmbhoy @ 14.16
If it really is one of your favorite Jock Stein quotes you should know it was Davie Whyte he was in the studio with Jock, not Scott Symon, apologies for being pedantic..
ianbhoy929,
I often ask people what was the best performance by a footballer they have seen with their own eyes. This filters out the bores who say George Best but they never actually watched him play.
The answer to my own question is Jinky v. Red Star Belgrade. Same as yours.
GMS
My first visit to Tyncastle in mid 70s. Danny McGrain inspired a great comeback for us to win 4-3. Team performance that sticks out, was my first Euro away trip. 2-1 in Amsterdam. Charlie and George
Kojo said:
“Ah Must Concede.. the Field .. and Retreat in Confusion and Disarray”
It takes a good man to so do so quickly but no need for either concession nor retreat as, Forster apart, our views ( on this matter !!!!) are fairly similar.
All the best,
JJ (Aff oot)
On a bitterly cold winter’s morning early in 1965 I waited on the school bus.
There was suddenly a commotion around a group of miners who had just come off the night shift. One had a newspaper and its tale was startling. Jock Stein had been appointed manager of Celtic. The seven dark years were about to end and glory beyond our dreams lay ahead. It changed my life and I suspect it did the same for many others.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/24029566
s**t hitting the fan.
Possibly the two best individual displays in the same match took place in the 1960 EC Final at Hampdump, when Ferenc Puskas scored four goals, and Alfredo Di Stefano netted three in Real Madridis 7-3 defeat of Eintracht Frankfurt.
Eintracht, of course, had put TWELVE past the Huns in a previous round over two legs.
HH!!
gallowgate mad squad @ 15 20
” Best team display”
Argentina —– humping Serbia 6-0 —World Cup , Gelsenkirchen June 2006 .
Beautiful, beautiful football . Riquelme was sublime !
Celtic have been fined 5,000 euro after supporters set off fireworks at a recent Champions League qualifier.
The incident took place at the Champions League second qualifying round second leg against Cliftonville at Celtic Park on 23 July.
Uefa say the sanction has been imposed following the initial charge of improper conduct by the club’s fans.
5 grand eh. A good night out for a select band at Uefa.
HH
The BBC:
Bullied By Crooks
Bullied By Cowards
Bullied By Conmen
Bye Bye Credibility
C’mon Alex Thomson on C4, how about you run a story exposing how cowardly is that other broadcaster, the one with a worldwide reputation to uphold, the one which some of us used to think was one of the most trustworthy news broadcasters on the planet.
BBC: you cowardly bunch of chickens.
You are supposed to stand up for the truth.
Speak out against corruption and thuggery.
What a joke of an organisation you have become.
Pogmathonyahun aka Laird of the Smiles
14:26 on 10 September, 2013
Here’s a wee test for you to take to see what generation you belong to:
The Generation Game
Me? – the El D generation.
*me tae got 19 out of 20, only one I missed was the Bovver Bhoys, probably because I didnae live at hame.
BTW was more of a lanny and merrydown lhad.
Sad to hear that about Jim Spence if it’s true. Not really surprised though. Fair play to him for sticking to his principles. Don’t imagine he’d be too keen to carry on there with his hands tied, being forced to report in fairy-tale-speak.
As I said yesterday, if the SFA would actually come out and tell the truth then others wouldn’t feel compelled to spout the “same club” garbage.
Maybe they could start by explaining why “Rangers” had to play in the early rounds of the Scottish Cup last year……
Rubicon
15:38 on 10 September, 2013
On a bitterly cold winter’s morning early in 1965 I waited on the school bus.
There was suddenly a commotion around a group of miners who had just come off the night shift. One had a newspaper and its tale was startling. Jock Stein had been appointed manager of Celtic. The seven dark years were about to end and glory beyond our dreams lay ahead. It changed my life and I suspect it did the same for many others.
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..certainly did for me an i’m a bit older than you so actually recall the bad times prior to then
HH
The Moon Bhoys
15:31 on 10 September, 2013
Lymmbhoy @ 14.16
If it really is one of your favorite Jock Stein quotes you should know it was Davie Whyte he was in the studio with Jock, not Scott Symon, apologies for being pedantic..
*thank you I have often stated this, I saw the interview it was on the Friday night news,
Can never remember scot symon ever being interviewed, probably thought it was beneath him. BTW when he was fired they were top of the League at the time.
Pogmathonyahun aka Laird of the Smiles
14:26 on 10 September, 2013
Here’s a wee test for you to take to see what generation you belong to:
The Generation Game
…………………………………………………………………….
yes, also in the EL D grouping… am i old enuff for the grey brigade??
Possibly Jim Spence has had enough of tiptoeing around the deadco issue,and has decided to bring matters to a head.
I doubt he will be doing this entirely off his own bat,I expect others have raised the same concern.
Good luck to him either way;a man with courage and principles.
Best player ever witnessed in the flesh, has to be Messi.
Best performance would be Riquelme v Celtic in UEFA Cup at Celtic Park. A magician.
When the huns sacked Scott Symon and appointed Davie White the 34 year-old manager of Clyde, big Jock rubbed his hands in glee – he knew that White would be a lamb to the slaughter: and that’s how it turned out.
HH!!
An absolute disgrace {if true} that one of the few honest journalists in this country Jim Spence,has had to give up his job,due to threats from the gang,but more worrying is the capitulation by his employers the BBC.This has come about IMO,from Jim’s own colleagues and fellow Union members,who have pedalled the “same club” lie,and stabbed him through the heart.Again,if true,the man has had the balls to walk away from his job for telling the truth.If there is to be some kind of tribunal,Traynor should be called to explain what he wrote in the Daily Record last year.
Tontine Tim @ 15.48
I remember in the aftermath of the interview Davie Whyte’s credibility was trashed, well certainly by our lot, even their lot thought that was it, he’d have to go..
From SirBarold.
Get this signed for the truth and for Spencey folks http://t.co/kP5HNyYGY1
Time to make a stand everyone this has to stop.
All the talk about Davie White, took me back, I remember the joke at the time… “Rangers heve got a new strip,..White with a red neck”
Ok, I was young at the time!!!
Lilys
Tallybhoy
15:39 on
10 September, 2013
Possibly the two best individual displays in the same match took place in the 1960 EC Final at Hampdump, when Ferenc Puskas scored four goals, and Alfredo Di Stefano netted three in Real Madridis 7-3 defeat of Eintracht Frankfurt.
Eintracht, of course, had put TWELVE past the Huns in a previous round over two legs.
HH!!
SPOT ON.
Just remember anyone who can’t be bothered making a complaint just think of this.
Every club has paid there bills and our club have to watch their spending yet the cheating charity thieves have cheated for years and had a licence for Europe which they shouldn’t have had and stole from creditors and ordinary businesses who needed that money.
Enough is enough.
HENR1K
Aye. Time the majority got off our backsides and called them on this.
Best team display for me was our first round 4:0 win over St. Etienne in 1968 that set up the Red Star tie. After losing the first leg 2:0 we could have gone out in the EC first round for the second year in a row after Lisbon.
Great wee film of the tie from French TV. Sounds like they let Jean-Luc Godard (Naw, he’s no a Star trek character) direct and Miles Davis do the soundtrack.
St. Etienne
St. Etienne
Best Individual performance was Jinky in the second half vs Red Star.
Best opposition player performance was Georgios Delikaris in 1974 for Olympiakos
Best team performance against us was Vojvodina (67) or AC (69).
Best Scottish team against us was Fergie’s 1980 Aberdeen team that came from behind to win the league.
Best Scottish player against us were Willie Wallace & Joe McBride and we bought them
From the BBC’s website:
Hibernian say they have returned to profit after two years of losses.
The club announced a £100,000 pre-tax profit for the year ending 31 July 2013.
Yes, that’s “the club” – NOT the “holding company”. Seems to be only when you get liquidated that a holding company myseriously appears on the scene…..
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I think Jim Spence would be better suing the BBC, than simply seeking voluntary redundancy. Their founding father gave them a motto which runs something like this”nation shall speak truth unto nation”. Presumably that implies that their journalists are expected to speak the truth,as they know it. Everyone knows Jim Spence did precisely that. If the BBC can’t defend the truth, when it is glaringly obvious, I would suggest that we refuse to pay the license fee and, if we’re taken to court, tell the world exactly why. I have always had a great respect for the BBC, apart from their Scottish sports department, and I am feel ashamed that , what has been for me one of the things to be proud of, has proved so craven: and to the follow followers of a dead football team.
All the chat about when we played Ekeren in Belgium and how easy it was to get in; no one checking tickets, no one asking questions, cops letting fans pose with their guns etc. set me thinking.
The Celtic game was in 1991 and yet 6 years earlier the same Belgian authorities had been severely criticised for pretty much the same type of crowd management at the Heysel Disaster.
The Heysel stadium was demolished/rebuilt after that terrible day, but clearly the Belgian authorities learned little else by 1991.
I saw the World Cup 1974 link that Zbyszek posted yesterday and couldn’t believe how they allowed the Poland v W Germany game to go ahead. The game in Heysel should never have gone ahead, but like the semi final in 1974, the wheels had started to turn and no one had the courage to call it off.
An investigation by a Belgian judge concluded that the police, football authorities and Liverpool fans were to blame. Fourteen Liverpool fans were convicted of involuntary manslaughter and the police Captain in charge of security and the secretary of the Belgian FA were convicted of criminal negligence.
http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough/history/heysel.shtm
Spiers on Sport
Scottish football remains poisoned by the continuing fall-out over the liquidation of Rangers last year. Bitterness and venom are spouting forth in ways the game has scarcely known north of the border.
A section of Rangers supporters feel deeply aggrieved, and much of it is justified. Their club was betrayed and ruined by a rogues’ gallery of dodgy geezers, and terrible damage was done.
The problem is, many of these same supporters originally gave their backing to some of these characters. I was outside Ibrox on May 7 2011 when Craig Whyte rode into town. If some Rangers fans that day had waved palm branches along Edmiston Drive they couldn’t have looked more exuberant in their welcome.
Egged on by the Daily Record, which repeatedly fawned to Whyte and fatuously hailed him “a billionaire”, a seed was being sown which would have catastrophic consequences.
When liquidation finally came to Rangers, an eruption of bitterness and casting around for blame broke out, and it continues to this day. Just ask Jim Spence, a BBC Scotland journalist, who has recently copped much flak.
Spence’s “crime” was an odd one. On Radio Scotland last week he blithely spoke words on air which a wide range of Scottish football observers, businessmen, insolvency people and more would have taken for granted. Spence referred to the liquidated Rangers Football Club plc as “the club that died”.
Amid this furnace of ill-feeling, for many Rangers supporters this is a detested and deeply hurtful phrase. And it fairly roused them to action. Over 400 Rangers fans complained to BBC Scotland, who duly issued an apology for any offence that may have been taken.
Rangers and their director of communication, James Traynor, leapt into action by issuing their own statement, appearing to warn that the club’s lawyers might get involved over a journalist such as Spence daring to use such words as “a dead club”.
Traynor should certainly know all about that. Last year, still working as a Daily Record columnist, this is what he himself wrote: “Rangers as we know them died. Rangers FC are dead.”
If, as Jim and Rangers are threatening, their lawyers go to war over Spence, it would surely count as the most farcical piece of litigation ever seen in Scottish football. For the sake of Rangers’ own head of communication, one must hope the legal pursuit is not retrospective.
The context of Spence and the BBC will have to be worked out separately. In recent months, the BBC Trust set out guidelines for referring to “old” and “new” Rangers, and held that the BBC in Scotland had failed to be precise in this.
But a wider point is more intriguing: are journalists, reporters and commentators really to be hounded for referring to the liquidated Rangers as “the old Rangers”?
There has been something sinister about the way Jim Spence has been treated, given that many would argue he merely stated the bleedin’ obvious.
Perhaps Spence and Traynor, in their separate ways, were trying to be controversial or provocative in their remarks. In which case, controversy can have its place, just as it must also be counter-challenged, such as here.
Where the exegetical fog exists is when, in debating the sins of the old Rangers regime, people seek to distinguish between the club then and now.
It inevitably needs a phrase such as “old” or “oldco” or “original” Rangers or some such delineation. The very language, though, makes some Rangers fans livid.
It is proving a painful subject. Some have argued that it shouldn’t matter; that even for ardent Rangers supporters, the club is here, it plays at Ibrox, it has the same name, the same strip, the same lustre. Why, it has been asked, make such a song and dance?
But I’ve discovered this won’t wash. For some Rangers fans it is an emotional agony to think of their precious club being dissolved last year – the notion is simply not for consideration.
The famed phrase “it was the company, not the club, which went bust” was born roundabout the spring of 2012, when liquidation became a certainty, and has been clung to ever since by fans. And hell mend anyone – and certainly any pesky hack – who dares to differ.
This has been a very painful experience for Rangers. And the venom and anger are showing no signs of abating.
Just bought my seats for the Champions League, being mine, the youngster’s, my father’s and my nephew’s.
While really quite delighted to be looking forward to watching the team compete once again in the world’s top club competition, I can’t let it pass without comment that I’m somewhat knarked at having to shell out £18 in ‘Internet charge”.
Meanwhile, over at Hibs… “Club Abolishes Online Booking Fees”
We do a lot of great things at Celtic, but there remains a tendency to rip a little p1sh in the ole customer relationship management from time to time.
…remember last time i met Davie White (side kick was Harold Davis) was in his office at Dens. Was accompanying kid brother who was there to agree signing terms….
..upshot.. 2 fingers an told them where to stuff them!!
Parkheadcumsalford-I agree but not sure if Jim would have to settle for an out if court settlement,rather than go through the corrupt Court system,where him and his family end up with possibly nothing.
Hen1rik-Complaint sent,well done,this man deserves our full support.
TBB
I agree – the booking fees are ridiculous. I remember being annoyed when I did a “print at home” booking and was still charged a fee. So basically I use my paper, printer ink and ‘leccy to get the ticket and still get charged. To add insult to injury the sodding thing didn’t work at the turnstiles and as ever our less than helpful stewards told me to go to the ticket office, which was what I was trying to avoid in the first place….
I picked mine and Leaf juniors Champs league tickets up in person on Sunday as well as 4 tickets for the Morton game for my brother I and our two kids. What I saved in booking fees probably covered my petrol and mine and Leaf Juniors tickets to the game on Sunday.
I also don’t understand why I have to pay a tenner when paying for my season cards by credit card…. and don’t get me started on special delivery for cup final tickets as they cannot be reprinted…
Apologies rant over but every penny counts these days and I hate being fleeced unnecessarily!