Historic Kazak win, view from Russia

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Celtic were not the only seeds to get a bloody nose in this week’s Champions League play-off round first leg games.  Lyon and Real Sociedad looked well matched before the game but Lyon’s 0-2 home defeat suggests the seeds were outclassed.

Austria Vienna were the team I wanted this round but despite indifferent domestic form they upset the odds and beat Dinamo Zagreb 0-2 in Croatia.  Perhaps the biggest surprise was Schalke’s 1-1 home draw with Poak Salonika.

Our defeat was, apparently, an historic sporting occasion for a country who are only a decade or so into their relationship with the game.  Kazak prime minister, Serik Akhmetov, went into the home dressing room after the game on Tuesday to congratulate Shakhter and bask in the fruits of his sports development policies, but I hear there is trepidation ahead of their trip to Glasgow.

Top Russian TV analyst, Vasily Utkin, predicted, “Celtic will solve all the problems before second game, they will learn what mistakes they did in Astana and they will show their real power. If this happens I’m pretty sure Celtic will go through.

“In the previous round Shakhter beat Albanian champions Skenderbeu 3-0 but in Albania they were down 3-0.  They are the team whose emotions are very important.  If Celtic start the game well at Celtic Park, with all their songs from the stands and support given by their fans, the players from Karaganda may start the game on their knees.

“Their only chance will be on the counter attack.  Whether this will be productive is the question for Celtic.  A goal for Shakhter would complicate Celtic’s situation.

“I see Celtic reaching the Champions League group games. They are Champions League quality. Whatever Shakhter will do they are not Champions League quality, at least not yet.”

“This… is a question for Celtic” is the key phrase.  Champions League qualification is in our own hands.  Beat Shakhter Karagandy by more than 2-0 at home is as good an offer as anyone will get to qualify for the Champions League.
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  1. Time to chill:

     

     

    What I witness everytime burds in the subway hear the Mickyfud88 is still onto them using his rozzer powers of 2nd dimension knowledge:

     

     

    “AARGHHHH!” they scream. Get the creepy b@st@rd away from us. ”

     

     

    And that was when he was IN uniform.

     

     

    Such powers of instinct saw him rise to the top of his chain, but his inability to empathise with other human beings meant that even the Strathy Rozzers decided he was too hot a potato.

     

     

    “Straight to the taxi ranks with you, sir!.”

     

     

    Hence why we are now the victims of his insidious, nasty bitterness.

     

     

    Dick.

  2. Barcabhoy @02:06 a good and well though out post (does the red wine out there have caffine in it? its a late night)

     

     

    i dont really know where you get an idea that our club has changed direction since WGS and Tony. same signing plices then as there were now. Buy cheap and if it fails buy cheap again and if it fails buy cheap again. that policy is glaring obvious in our striker policy. we were indeed lucky in scott Mcdonald, but the 1st sign of a transfer fee during the balancing the books fire sale during BTM era and he was off replaced with by a loan signing for 5 months then nothing but dross and dross then gary hooper now we are going back to the dross again

     

     

    the 12M of Vic money is gone it was there as insurance incase we dont make champions league( even if we did not one penny of that goes near neil)

     

    Poor neil trying to get half the hooper and wilson money and trying to find a goal scorer is nigh well impossible

     

     

    indeed a goal scoer should get extra money as he makes the prizies and puts bums on seats.

     

    i really dont see an issue in us giving finbogoson a offer he cant refuse, we can afford it for the one player we really need.

     

     

    Our strategy is all about the balance sheet and mainting zero debt

     

    nothing about putting entertainers on the park in fron of the fans or will trophies or getting into CL(apart from the money0

     

     

    our club is all about the bottom dollar and ensuring our CEO gets his bonus.

     

    the rest and the fans mean nothing

  3. FFM,

     

     

    This is a site tha……t is Fighting hard because… Well yoyoyoyo know more now.

     

     

    I cannae wait until SFTB and TSD start boxing again. Information is all we need.

     

     

    I love the Spats, am I sick? a Hun? :)))

     

     

    Summa.csc

  4. FFM,

     

     

    The Conspiracy is Largesse and it has awesome MUSIC from Bach in the day.

     

     

    Techno – Heck no

     

     

    That is the Labels Identification.

     

     

    All the podcasts I listen to now are saying that the……. and the Nazis are rocking noo, Nae Wonder. Joseph Farrell and a few others are Warning aboot AWE NAW. :P

  5. Lovely morning on the 06-25 Cambuslang to Edinburgh train. Great view of the sunrise as leaving Bellshill.

     

     

    As for tomorrow, game time for the bhoys who need it and rest the others. 3 o’clock kick off on a Saturday. …ideal….and welcome back to the G.B.

     

     

    3-1 celtic. (Balde, stokes and virgil)

  6. TBJ Praying for Oscar Knox on

    Good morning championees

     

     

    Friday .. difficult choices to make tonight.

     

     

    Two deed clubs tribute acts meet …. clash of the dirty orange zombies .

     

     

    Meanwhile . The original rocky movie kicks off a six week run of the series at 9pm

     

     

    But the winner is …. letting off a chinese lantern at 9pm in honour of wee oscar

  7. TBJ Praying for Oscar Knox on

    Maleys bhoy

     

     

    You just choo choood past my house as you came out of cambuslang… and you didnt even wave :(

  8. Tbj….will do on way home tonight at 17-40.

     

    Well done for reminding me about lantern tonight.

  9. TBJ Praying for Oscar Knox on

    Maleys bhoy

     

     

    I need to get one today. .. need to nip out at lunch time.

  10. maleys bhoy

     

     

    Good question ! Nothing football related!

     

     

    Just a beautiful evening.

     

     

    I was right to be suspicious of it, but in football terms, the omens are good for Wednesday. I’ve had the feeling we’ll do well in the EL this season, but last night, my mind changed as I walked out in the moist air :))

     

     

    We will play a blinder on Wednesday, imo.

     

     

    After that, I’ll be back praising the board for working with the GB, while we welcome yon Finobagasson or whitever his name is…..:))

     

     

    If it goes wrong, I’ll be the first to pull out that fence from under your backside :))

  11. Tbj

     

    You live in houses that back on to rwilway line? My son’s best pal lives down there. Cant remember street name but something to do with type of tree….

  12. TBJ Praying for Oscar Knox on

    Maleys bhoy

     

     

    I live in the new flats built on the grounds of whitehill bowling club.

  13. Ffm

     

    Like your optimism and hope you are right. I’ve not seen anything yet this season that makes me so positive.

     

    I think Virgill and Boerrigter will be excellent but this game may have come to soon.

  14. Police target online football abuseFootball fans being dispersed by police after violence before a match Arrests linked to offences at football matches have fallen in recent years Continue reading the main story

     

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    Football arrests ‘fall by 24%’

     

    FAW signs up to tackle homophobia

     

    Football policing ‘still harsh’

     

     

    Football supporters are being warned that abuse of players or fellow fans on online social media is being targeted this season by police and prosecutors.

     

     

    New guidelines for tackling hooligans in England and Wales also for the first time address homophobic chanting.

     

     

    Match-related incidents have been falling but there will continue to be a “robust prosecution policy”.

     

     

    Police say troublemakers given banning orders will find they are unable to attend the 2014 Brazil World Cup.

     

     

    The orders prevent supporters from travelling to matches for a minimum of three years and any imposed this season would also affect supporters hoping to attend Euro 2016 in France, the CPS and Association of Chief Police Officers added in a statement setting out the policy guidance.

     

     

    The joint policy outlines the way violence, disorder, criminal damage and abuse in and around football matches will be approached.

     

     

    Other “emerging challenges” for police and prosecutors highlighted include assaults of players by fans and the use of flares or fireworks within grounds.

     

     

    Nick Hawkins, lead sports prosecutor at the CPS, said most football fans are well behaved and there has been a rise in the numbers of families at matches because of “friendlier atmospheres”.

     

     

    ‘Culture change’

     

     

    Earlier this year, the CPS unveiled guidance specifying when communications on social media such as Twitter or Facebook – that included threats of violence or damage to property, targeted individuals, or appeared to breach a court order – should be prosecuted.

     

     

    The CPS says there is a “place for humour in football but where the line between humour and offensive behaviour is crossed then positive action will be taken”.

     

     

    Continue reading the main story

     

     

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    It’s not just criminality in the stands that will be taken on”

     

    End Quote

     

    Nigel Hawkins

     

     

    Crown Prosecution Service

     

     

    Mr Hawkins said: “Decent, law-abiding football fans deserve to be reassured that the criminal justice system is better equipped than ever before to protect their right to follow their teams in safety, whilst players, referees and supporters should know that harassment and abuse against them will not be tolerated.”

     

     

    He added: “In years gone by, racist and homophobic chanting in the stands was an ugly feature of football matches across the country, but I believe we are beginning to see a shift in culture… but hate crime legislation has a large part to play in this ongoing culture change.

     

     

    “But it’s not just criminality in the stands that will be taken on. Our legal guidance on communications sent by social media clearly sets out how we will approach the abuse of players or fellow supporters online.”

     

     

    Alice Ashworth, from gay rights charity Stonewall, welcomed the announcement and said its research showed that homophobic abuse “continues to be all too common in football and deters gay fans, as well as many families, from attending matches”.

     

     

    Darren Bailey, director of governance and regulation for the Football Association, said: “The FA welcomes the CPS’ policy and wholeheartedly supports its ambitions in continuing to make football a safe environment for everyone.”

     

     

    The latest available figures on offences at football matches are for 2011-12 and show the number of arrests at international and domestic games fell by nearly 24%, to 2,363. There were 2,750 banning orders in existence, down from 3,173.

  15. Tbj…know where you are…presume you mean Whitefield. ..? Been in there a few times for parties and a few beers. .

  16. TBJ Praying for Oscar Knox on

    Maleys bhoy

     

     

    Correctamundo … Whitefield

     

     

    So.. your one of the noisy buggas that disrupt my peace in the very early hours…. ;)))

     

     

    Ive got a crib with the club… too many nights when parties finish up and they all congregate in our car park shouting singing and fighting. I’ve warned them I will pick up the phone and call plod on each occasion then oppose their licence …

  17. Lionsroar67,

     

     

    Football supporters.

     

     

    The last surviving threat to the authorities from organised groups.

     

     

    On the other hand, hun muppetry is encouraged as they couldn’t recognise let alone organize a fart from a bowel movement.

     

     

    To be fair though, Super Sally is always there to guide them on this.

     

     

    On reading things like that, I soften towards the Celtic board and wonder what pressures they are being put under to keep the support divided. Bearing in mind it was the rozzers who were the first to point the finger at them when the intimidation and abuse went at the GB……from the rozzers.

  18. Tbj. Can sympathise….friends of ours used to live next door to a social club and they had terrible problems with noise especially at weekends.

     

     

    Thank god its Friday. Kids footy in east Kilbride in the morning and then off to paradise in the afternoon…

  19. Express Sport revealed earlier this month that Motherwell were keen on midfielder McGeouch, but Hibs and Ross County have now registered their interest too.

     

     

    McGeouch burst on to the scene two seasons ago but has struggled to cement a regular place and manager Neil Lennon has decided the best course of action is to farm out the Scotland Under-21 cap to gain top-team experience.

     

     

    Glad to see that Jackson Irvine and now Dylan are going hopefully to gain valuable 1st team action at this stage they in their careers they need it, Tony Watt should also be loaned

  20. Woken up to find Ben Affleck is Batman. Sorry Mr Lawwell but that’s a step too far. #lawwellrunseverything

  21. Morning all, damp and fresh in the verdant Chilterns today…

     

     

    Nice to see we’ve got the Historic Kazak Win unpacked.

     

     

    Tonight will take me back to my boyhood as I’ll cheering on an Airdrionians.

     

     

    The original ones were my Grandads Team so despite all I have a strong spot for them.

     

     

    Noticed there has been alot of criticizm of CQN since the first leg qualifier, got to say I think this is a great Forum.

     

     

    Passion and angst in aboundance, as Football is surly about, but there has been a plethora of really great insightful, enlightening posts.

     

     

    Thxs to yin & ah’

  22. Weeminger

     

     

    First Tom Cruise as Jack Reacher……which is a joke. How can a guy thats 5ft 6in and 10 stone play a character who is 6ft 6in and 17 stone? Film was awful.

     

     

    Now Affleck as Batman….depends on producer and director. ..got a feeling that Affleck will be director…

  23. Good morning friends and a Big Happy Friday from a cloudy but dry and bright East Kilbride.