There have been many questions about the unusual circumstance in football of Rangers going into administration but not making any players redundant. It is possible, and not totally uncommon, for directors of a company in administration to arbitrarily choose to provide funds from their own resources to pay any chosen creditor, including staff. In football, players’ contracts of employment need to be with the club, but the source of payment can come from anywhere.
In this instance, Rangers Group, the club’s holding company, or any other body or person, could be in sufficient funds to provide the administrators with enough money to not only pay players, but to continue operating in a relatively normal state. Rangers’ administrators have already suggested Craig Whyte has guaranteed to make-good wages due to be paid this week, although it was not made clear which entity would be paying, or the source of such funds.
Administrators will only be forced into player redundancies if they do not have sufficient funds available to see them through to the timely conclusion of negotiations with creditors, or if they are unable to receive binding undertakings from another source that they will step forward to pay players next month.
Various sources over the weekend suggested HM Revenue and Customs were prepared to extend generous time to pay terms to Rangers. This club is owned by Craig Whyte. While we all know what a stand-up guy Craig is, how likely to you think HMRC are to believe he will stick to a plan stretching out years into the future? It’s just not going to happen.
I hear a ‘We’ll take a few years to pay too’ campaign is set to trickle through the SPL if HMRC agree to this one. Better using the tax man as a bank than using an actual bank.
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celticghirlanew says:
20 February, 2012 at 22:18
patrick27
Their defence might have stopped lesser mortals!!!
That’s true! Yes, Hooper and Stokesy up front are by far the best partnership in Scotland, and would be up there with the best in Britain IMO
Anyway, I’m off, see you later folks!
Btw, on quiz duties on Friday, I’m thinking a party theme??? Winner gets jelly and ice cream …..
Is there any substance to this morning’s story in The Scotsman that the SPL Board will give In Administration FC a cash advance on TV money if they need it complete their fixtures?
bunburybhoy, the Planation of Ulstaer was carried out in the reighn of James VI nad
Patrick27
Believe it or not, I can’t imagine life without football now either!
What an epiphany (erm.. so to speak!!)
:-) x
I have been reading with interest the debate about what would happen to Scottish Football if Rankers were booted out the SPL , and , the satellite channels decided to pull the plug.
I won’t pretend my research is 100% robust, but , based upon published viewing data, I decided to de a wee bit of homework using BARB
For the period , I reviewed, a typical EPL match attracted a viewing audience of around 1.75million e.g, week ending 8th January the viewing figures varied from 1.4 million on the Monday, 1.768 on the Tuesday and 1 .954 on the Wednesday. I have no idea who was playing in those games, mainly because I am too lazy to research , but I am sure you get the idea.
By comparison , the same week, figures for Scottish games were
Peterhead vs Celtic 298 k viewers
Hibs vs Hearts 260k
Arbroath vs Rankers 247 k
Also, the previous week’s game at Celtic Park vs Rankers drew an audience of 851 k , which was about 75% of the Average EPL viewing figures in the same week , and about 30% higher than West Ham vs Birmingham.
So , my point is
I suspect we all know, that even a Celtic Vs Rankers game doesn’t achieve the same viewing figures as a run of the mill EPL game – no surprise there
What is of interest is the proportional viewing figures :The last time I looked Scotland had around 9% of the UK population
Here is where the maths and hypothesis comes in.
If approximately 1.75m watch a typical EPL game, then this equates to 2.8 % of the UK population watching an EPL game. Using the EPL viewing figure as an index, proportionally we should therefore expect .252 % of the UK population to watch a Scottish game.
But, and I recognise I am only looking at a snapshot, approximately .44% of the population watched the Scottish games ….excluding the Celtic vs Rankers game.
Indeed, the Celtic vs Rankers game was watched by considerably more than the ‘expected share’.
In summary, if the average EPL game was getting viewing figures of 1.75 m , then the Scottish games should get about 160k viewers, but, in reality the average was around 270k, and in one instance it was 851k.
Conclusion – we have heard lots of talk in the last week about the importance of Celtic vs Rankers to TV deals .
If the EPL Receives around £700m / season, by rights, based on the above, Scottish Football should be getting at least 5 times the current money….and that excludes the Celtic vs Rankers game.
Can Scottish football survive without Rankers – do the math !!!
bunburybhoy, the Plantation of Ulster was carried out in the reign of James VI and I, decades before Cromwell.
celticghirlanew
You don’t wanna be geein ole sanna kisses.
He’ll be ropin you into sellin something for the Kano foundation soon.
Sanna – good to see that ole key board charm working. How’s that going in real life? :-)x
MWD
Can anyone confirm the tweets from John McGreechan that the Daily Mail have a story tomorrow that will bury Craig Whyte?
Lets Stick Together – Brian Ferry
celticghirlanew says:
20 February, 2012 at 22:21
welcome.
“my wee friend” – well seeing you don’t know me !
Calling you ‘honey’ would have been sexist and demeaning – i wouldn’t do that .
HH
bass bhoy
Cracking tale btw.
Looks like you chose well.
Hey Smb
Gonnae stop goin on about that broken toe nail!
ElDiego
The joy of the staff room is that we never, ever go short.
You do have to put up with them bringing in an assortment of kitchen door samples for your perusal before deciding which one to purchase however!! :-)
The exiled tim
Totally get your point….. just finding the hoops’ playing is incredibly exciting
(never mind all the ibroke stuff)
Amazing to see such skill
I’m nearly understanding the offside rule
(when that happens, I’m off to a posh spa to reaffirm my femininity!!! Women should NEVER understand that rule – it’s what makes us different) LOL
HH
:-) x
MadMitch says:
20 February, 2012 at 21:47
The main factors in the advancement of Catholics in Scottish Society where
1) The Labour Party
2) Catholic Schools
Moonbeans
You old stirrer!!!
sanabhoy had me hooked
(for a nano second!)
HH
:-) x
!!Bada Bing!! Kano 1000 says:
20 February, 2012 at 22:15
ibhoy-Whats rough price of a show ticket mate? HH.
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Depends on the show – anything from 50 quid up to hundreds really.
Matt E
Ye cannae trust big Doplh!!!!
The Exiled Tim
Naw, Emu just drank more and I copied him…..
Dolph even….
Ni
I can confirm they are indeed TWEETS.
MWD hopes that helps.
MWD , it’s going well thanks. i used the photo i took of you at the quiz and on eof John Barrowman to show the before and after effects of the J&IC diet – or was it the after and before ? keep getting those 2 mixed up.
MWD
Got your texts but phones knackered cant see pics, taking it back in AGAIN tomorrow lol
Sannabhoy how are u BFAM?
HH
Not so sure I am so happy about the potential exposure of ‘our hero’ in the Mail tomorrow…….
It is Mintys demise which would really show the battle was well and truely won…….
I might be very late with this but I see that Andy at Scotzine has retweeted the following
“In tomorrow’s Scottish Daily Mail. The story that will bury #Rangers owner Craig Whyte. And much more. No cluses(sic). Night night.”
Interesting day ahead tomorrow possibly.
celticghirlanew
moonbeans
Is that how ole Davie goat them golden eggs?
MWD :-))))
The Original Sadies Bhoy
I reckon EVERY school should work along the same ethos as an RC school.
I’ve worked in both, and the ethos in RC schools is phenomenal.
A truly inclusive, supportive atmosphere.
Non denominational schools couldn’t do the religious worship bit, but could work towards the sense of community, tolerance and high expectations the the RC schools live and breathe
:-) x
nothing without fans says:
20 February, 2012 at 22:23
Is there any substance to this morning’s story in The Scotsman that the SPL Board will give In Administration FC a cash advance on TV money if they need it complete their fixtures?
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More than likely they will – did likewise for Gretna to allow them to complete their season’s fixtures.
Would have meant clubs still to play them would have lost out on home fixture; gate receipts, hospitality, sponsorship etc.
Would be less disruptive to those clubs that pay their taxes!
!!Bada Bing!! Kano 1000 says:
20 February, 2012 at 22:15
ibhoy-Whats rough price of a show ticket mate? HH.
apologies for jumping in – Mrs Sanna (sorry celticghirlanew) and i went to Chicago and Priscilla over a couple of nights (well it was her birthday trip AND i DID get to go to the Parlour at 7:00 on a saturday morning) and we paid approx $150 for a pair of tix each night – so £45 approx each
My tribute to voguepunter:
The quality of mercy is not strained.
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest:
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes.
Tis mightiest in the mightiest; it becomes
The throned monarch better than his crown.
His scepter shows the force of temporal power,
The attribute to awe and majesty,
Wherein doth sit the dread and fear of kings.
But mercy is above this sceptered sway;
It is enthroned in the hearts of kings;
It is an attribute of God himself;
And earthly power doth then show like God’s
When mercy seasons justice.
No mercy to the huns!
2 questions:
I love calling the huns for what they are: huns! So…
Why do the scarves with the “H*ns are going bust” message exclude the letter U from the word h*ns?
Why is awe-naw being nice to everyone?
My world has been tipped upside down in a nice way for a while now but I find his recent behaviour extremely disorientating and a trifle disappointing. I liked the angry, mad, bad and funny awe-naw. Please come back!
HH
Burnley ol’ mucker.
What you up to these days? I understand the coffee at Holyrood wasn’t your taste.
Bada
Try rocky sullivans for the game, some of ma pals are going there for the final, parlour is another good shout, my pal Brian used to own it!
Campdenhoop@22:24
But who put his foot all over it?
Who set the tone for the tragedy that followed in Eire?
Everything else followed from that in Eire …
A sin so it is…BUT more qualified people on here know better..and they do!
We are just a wee sidenote to horrible stuff done in the name of misguided triumphal ism
HH
PS…Thank feck we have a spell check oan here!
That took me hauf an hoor!
Aye Sanna.
Better that than using you cause they would a thoat it wiz a diet reversal. ;-)))
MWD
I should really read the recent posts before posting. Doh!!!!
The Exiled Tim
Thanks. I know I chose well!
Another factor in my conversion was the fact that someone on the Parent Teacher Association of Auchinairn Primary School saw fit to hold an evening event which consisted of a cine film viewing of the not-so-long-ago European Cup victory. Not surprisingly, this was a poorly attended event at this particular location, but sitting in the flickering darkness I was captivated.
MWD, brilliant that clears that up then
The River – Bruce Springsteen
I would like us to look beyond the present stramash across the river and start to plan the kind of Celtic we want fr years to come. I think there is much to be said about returning to our tradition of raising our own players. I would like to see us with Celtic teams of 6/7 home grown talent and the rest of quality signings. We cannot compete with the Premiership in the transfer market but we have a positive global image and talented scouts and coaches who can compensate for that. Think of THE LISBON LIONS OF YESTERYEAR and Porto of to-day. It can be done!
sannabhoy says:
20 February, 2012 at 22:15
Bada Bing , if you have time , try to get in touch with pjbhoynyc . He welcomed me into the parlour csc (off braodway and 86th) when i was over .
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As an alternative I watched the hibs demolition in Jack Demseys opposite Empire State Building. Jelly and ice cream was available!
Burnley78 says:
20 February, 2012 at 22:31
Whytie’s the arrow, Minty’s the bow
Hope its a bullseye