Is it any wonder Celtic fans worry about contagion?

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Not only are Newco left without an auditor, a Nomad and therefore a market listing, outgoing auditors Deloitte, wrote to the club last month to explain they were resigning due to threatening and intimidating messages received by their staff from anonymous persons during 2013 and 2014 in relation to their work with the club.

The toxicity of that football club is difficult to overstate.  Is it any wonder Celtic fans are clear: the ‘Old Firm’ died in 2012?  Any attempts to rekindle it will result in contagion for our own club, who maybe smaller going forward without the ‘Old Firm’ dividend, but it will be healthier nonetheless.

I’ll take 40,000 crowds and winning the next 30 titles in a canter, bring it on.

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  1. Delaneys Dunky on

    Clogher

     

     

    My son and I canny wait for Dublin Easter 2016. Thanks again for your spirit in organisation.

  2. clogher celt on

    Thanks DD,

     

     

    Hopefully will, have a venue tomorrow. The proposal has to go to a committee meeting. But if we get it, it is a good place with reasonable beer prices.

     

     

    I hope that we can get it, then I can organise the rest of the events.

     

     

    Thanks for your patience,

  3. Slan_Abhaile on

    For the sake of our reputation, Celtic fans need to reflect on the appalling political allegiances that they have made over the years. There is a clear necessity for a radical reassessment of the shadier aspects of Celtic’s “culture”. For a start, my fellow fans could ditch their copies of Socialist Worker and An Phoblacht, and get back to the original values of the club’s Catholic founder. That might mean finding new reading materials – the Gospels, for example. And it would also mean getting back to attending Mass and Confession.

     

     

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/jmacmillan/100046348/celtic-fans-need-to-ditch-their-shady-pro-terrorist-sympathies-and-return-to-their-catholic-roots/

     

     

    Hard to argue with the closing paragraph.

  4. mickbhoy1888 on

    Sftb @19:00

     

     

    I think the choon you allude too was a wee ditty about a bit of petty thieving and a subsequent ferry trip to the Southern Hemisphere it certainly wasn’t a glorifying diatribe offered up in recognition of those who didn’t give a flying duck about how many innocents were murdered for the sake of their cause viz a viz ROH

     

     

    Anyway I just happened too get an invite to Romans Yacht which was anchored off the tail of the bank last week,he wanted my opinion on the monetary worth of big VVD should he want to join Chelsea. I opined that through my research on CQN that to prise big Victor away from The Celtic he would have to offer in the the region of £110,000,000m to have any chance of getting his signature on the dotted line.Roman was surprised as being a regular lurker on CQN he expected to hear that big Victor was more in the £150,000,000m class of player. I agreed but told him that if we don’t make the group stages of the CL my big uncle Peter and him could probably reach a compromise at the £125,000,000m mark. Roman seemed delighted at this and let me into a secret. He wasn’t really interested in shifting big Victor to Chelsea but he had planned to move him to his newest acquisition,in the Scottish Championship, a club that he informed me that he has ploughed £1,690,000,000b into.

     

    He was also enquiring about the famed Ronny but I told him that was a step too far

     

     

    So you read it here first on a football blog so it must be true (just like the famed dossier)

     

     

    Ps Really appreciate your psychoanalysis on the above post

  5. Slan,

     

     

    Its easy to argue with the last paragraph.

     

     

    If Celtic fc now are a non political and open to all. Organisation, why should all the fans have catholic doctrine.

  6. Delaneys Dunky on

    Clogher

     

     

    I spoke to a lurker in Paisley yesterday. He is coming over to Dublin next Easter with his family. He was praising the work of Clogher Celt and Almore. :)

  7. PS.

     

     

    I won’t attend mass and confession.

     

     

    It stops me reading the worker and an phoblacht.

     

     

    So,

     

     

    Gease peace.

  8. clogher celt on

    Slan,

     

     

    Where do you live? Do you live in Glasgow, Belfast or anywhere in the 32 Counties?

     

     

     

    Not starting a row but a fair question?

  9. Slan_Abhaile on

    Saint Stivs @0039

     

     

    Good luck with that, but I fear it won’t be enough.

     

     

    Yir Bums Oot the Windae FC

  10. clogher celt on

    DD,

     

     

    Doing my best. I think it will be a some weekend.

     

     

    Only hope we get this venue.

  11. Delaneys Dunky on

    16roads

     

     

    If I wisnae going to Benicassim next week wi ma bhoy, I would have been over wi Pedro to see you in Belfast. Loved your company in February. Great weekend.

     

    Free da weed! Legalise it!

     

    Hail HaiL

  12. Slan_Abhaile on

    clogher celt @00:40 on

     

     

    Do you live in Glasgow? – Used to.

     

    Belfast or anywhere in the 32 Counties? – Used to.

     

     

    Not starting a row but a fair question? – Fair enough.

  13. 16 roads - Celtic über alles... on

    Clogher Celt – I’ve been barred from every zombie blog in the world mo chara.

     

     

    Why,I hear you ask?

     

     

    Because I merely attempted to enlighten the clowns, that’s why.

     

     

    Celtic is a broad church open to all, regardless of creed or colour.

     

     

    Zombies are allowed to pollute this dear green place, and rightly so.

     

     

    Tolerance.

     

     

    They are here for our own amusement though, so we can laugh at them and their pathetic efforts to go incognito! :)

     

     

    Splendid.

     

     

    HH.

  14. Slan

     

     

    Will take my chances.

     

     

    I don’t like when catholics are told to be more gospely.

     

    I don’t like when non catholics are told to be , em what exactly.

     

     

    I dontnlikevto be told what I read and believed makes me a lesser Celtic fan.

     

     

    So, take your religious ultra rubbidge and gives peace.

  15. 16 roads - Celtic über alles... on

    DD – Yer a gentleman and a genuis mo chara.

     

     

    Always welcome over here any day of the very.

     

     

    That holiday sounds incredible though, no point in telling ya to enjoy yerself, sure ye always do.

     

     

    Have a goodun G.

     

     

    KTF.

  16. mickbhoy1888 on

    A more succinct way of the point I was trying to put across in my post earlier on Sunday evening. No doubt that the sad lonely and embittered old old men who still inhabit this blog on a daily basis will try and tell you the author is no more than a green Hun.

     

     

     

     

    The country was astonished and sickened this week at the news that a Catholic priest in Ireland, Fr James Chesney, had been involved in murderous IRA activities at the height of the Troubles in the 1970s. Those of us of an Hiberno-Catholic inclination in Scotland have seen this sort of thing before. A similar scandal erupted in Glasgow at about the same time, involving a Fr Bartholomew Burns.

     

    Most Catholics in the west of Scotland can claim origins in Ireland. The Catholic culture here is imbued with the memories of those roots, for good and for ill. During the Troubles in Ulster, emotions and anxieties ran high here, as relatives were caught up in the mayhem and violence. It was inevitable that Catholics in these parts would take sides with the Civil Rights Movement, and their republican politics. In earlier phases of the Nationalist/British struggle many of our relatives took part. After WWI, my grandfather’s cousin fled from Ireland to hide with the Scottish branch of the family in Ayrshire. This man sat with a cocked revolver behind the front door expecting the police to catch up with him at any time. I think he had probably shot some Black and Tan soldiers. One morning he was gone. A postcard from Pittsburgh finally arrived, and that branch of the family have been there ever since.

     

    My other grandfather was a Black and Tan! The two branches of the family could, at one time, have faced each other across the barricades, and cancelled each other out. For my sake, and for my existence, I’m glad they didn’t.

     

    The culture of Glasgow Celtic FC is steeped in this history. It was established by a Marist Brother from Sligo in 1888 to provide charity, sport and entertainment for the urban poor who had settled in the east end of Glasgow in the 19th century. The club was eventually gifted the national flag – the tricolor – from the Irish Republic for the work they had done for Irish immigrants in Scotland. The culture of the club and its supporters, even today, is Irish as well as Scottish. Mostly, this is something worth celebrating. However, the suspicion persists that there is still stubborn support for extremist Irish politics among some of the fans. I would bet anything that Fathers Chesney and Burns were Celtic fans, like me.

     

    In the continual bickering with their ancient enemies, Rangers FC, the accusations fly as to who has the most sectarian set of fans. The chants from the Rangers fans have a distinctly anti-Catholic edge, attacking the Pope and aspects of the faith. The Celtic fans counter that their songs have nothing to do with religion, but are political in nature. But hatred is hatred, and it doesn’t matter what initial instigation and shape it has. I have always celebrated the Irish culture from which I grew, but I have always been appalled at the ease with which many fellow Celtic fans were able to bestow their support on the IRA.

     

    In the 1970s Scottish and English football was blighted by the entryism of the extreme Right. The NF and later the BNP would distribute their propaganda quite freely outside many grounds. In Scotland the most eager takers for this kind of fascist filth were the Rangers and Hearts fans. In contrast, the Celtic fans would pride themselves on the presence of the extreme Left at Celtic Park, in the shape of various Trotskyist and Sinn Fein lobbyists. Some sanctimonious Hoops supporters would even argue that their Leftism was the true modern heir of the charitable activities of the club’s Marist founder, Brother Walfrid. This clutch of values has led many Celtic fans into supporting the IRA’s murderous collaborators in other conflicts, including Hamas and Catalan and Basque separatists.

     

    When Celtic faced FC Hapoel of Tel Aviv recently, the Scottish TUC organized a huge anti-Israeli demonstration at the Glasgow leg, and recruited many eager Celtic fans to wave Palestinian and Hamas flags at the visitors. The sight of my fellow Celtic supporters goading our Jewish guests with anti-Semitic howls and insults was deeply shaming.

     

    With British troops in action in Iraq and Afghanistan, many football clubs invite soldiers on leave to attend as honoured guests. Rangers have made a feature of this. This would be unimaginable at Celtic Park because of the baggage left over from the Troubles. But if Celtic supporters imagine that their team is not without its support in the British Armed forces, they are very much mistaken. In their last European final, in 2003, when Celtic played Porto in Seville, I happened to be working in Germany. I found a pub to watch the game. It was full of British soldiers, Celtic fans to a man.

     

    For the sake of our reputation, Celtic fans need to reflect on the appalling political allegiances that they have made over the years. There is a clear necessity for a radical reassessment of the shadier aspects of Celtic’s “culture”. For a start, my fellow fans could ditch their copies of Socialist Worker and An Phoblacht, and get back to the original values of the club’s Catholic founder. That might mean finding new reading materials – the Gospels, for example. And it would also mean getting back to attending Mass and Confession.

  17. clogher celt on

    Slan,

     

     

    When did you last live in Ireland?

     

     

    What do you think of the abuse situation here?

     

     

    How do you think the Church get’s out of this?

     

     

    Sorry, again, when did you live in Glasgow?

     

     

    HH,

     

     

    Clogher

  18. clogher celt on

    16 Roads,

     

     

    You sound like the kind of a man, who should be here for Dublin 2016!

     

     

    No pressure.

     

     

    Clogher

  19. Delaneys Dunky on

    16roads

     

     

    GNGB J. You,and the rest of the Irish bhoys were perfect hosts. Macanbheatha and his Saint Matthew’s club is a must visit for me every time. Heroic folk.

  20. itscalledthemalvinas on

    clogher celt

     

     

    I registered my interest in Easter 2016, looking forward to the weekend. Will you be posting details of events and meeting up points soon ?

  21. mickbhoy1888 on

    Sftb

     

     

    If you played the Fields during your consultancy and made me shed a tear or two you would get your £500 and £50 tip you closet capitalist devil you

  22. I was with a Celtic supporting ex soldier last weekend.

     

     

    He wore his medals on a jacket with a kilt to a family wedding. It was armed forces day, he talked to me about the campaigns he had been on. Terrible stories.

     

     

    I asked him, why don’t you go to the Ibrox freebies.

     

     

    Would rather go back to Iraq was the reply.

  23. 16 roads - Celtic über alles... on

    mickbhoy1888

     

     

    00:54 on 6 July, 2015

     

     

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    All well and good, however your post is blatantly one-sided and is therefore susceptible to a million and one counterpoints,that would most definitely then result in another bout of whataboutery.

     

     

    Let it go.

     

     

    HH.

  24. Slan_Abhaile on

    clogher celt @0059

     

     

    LOL.

     

     

    Hawd oan, am away tae measure ma inside lef fur ye ;-)

  25. Slan_Abhaile on

    Saint Stivs @0106

     

     

    I was a British soldier. Done the tours. Wore the tap. Got the flack. Gave it back. Still a Tim.

  26. Captain Beefheart on

    Another tsunami of scheidt engulfs the Jap ‘defence’. 5-2. What a shambles.