I have two significant concerns about Walter Smith’s comments yesterday. He spoke about the events which followed Rangers liquidation in 2012:
“There was no necessity for Rangers to be put down into the Third Division.
“That will always stay in Scottish football. There will be a bitterness in the Rangers ranks. It will be a massive motivation for the club. It would certainly be for me.
“How can they forget what happened to them? Nobody could forget that.”
I’ve spoken to people at Celtic about security concerns ahead of the weekend. The game itself will almost certainly pass off without incident, but what happens on the streets of Glasgow and surrounding towns is anyone’s guess.
You will hear nothing even close to inflammatory from Celtic, senior fans groups, or anyone who cares about the club’s fans and wellbeing. Justifying bitterness due to (mis)perceived persecution ahead of this fixture is inciteful. I’m astonished Smith said this.
On his subject matter, let me give you an alternative scenario:
Newco Rangers are parachuted straight into the Premier League, hundreds of creditors are abandoned, they have a full squad of players and are not a penny in debt. They would have been out signing players within minutes of registration (they even tried to sign a player while still in administration).
With Oldco having won the league accumulating debts they would never pay in 2009, 2010 and 2011, Newco, free of legacy financial commitments, would have an excellent chance of winning again in 2013 and beyond.
This plan was one strand of Craig Whyte’s lunacy and it would have killed Scottish football. Celtic, and others, would have been left to consider, do we pay these millions of debts, or liquidate and spend the money on players instead? I had this very conversation with a senior figure in the game in October 2011, when the realisation of what Whyte was planning became evident. Utter mayhem would have ensued.
The damage done to the Rangers brand of clubs by allowing Newco access only to the bottom tier was huge. It’s consequences are yet to be appreciated by most fans. Newco may never win a top flight league.
But the question was not whether to impose a trauma on ‘Rangers’ or allow everyone to carry on as we had before, this was not an option. It was whether to allow the existing rules and processes to stand, allow responsibility for the enormous mismanagement of Rangers to be carried primarily by Newco, and have other clubs deal with the fallout, with or without a ‘Rangers’ club in the league.
Whyte’s plan replicated what he’d done in other industries, but it would have devastated Celtic in particular. We were beaten for years on the field by a team who could not pay their bills or correctly register their players, then we would be beaten again as they walked away from debts without consequence, which is why I wrote this article in October 2011 on the Prepack route for Rangers Newco.
Pretty much all of what I wrote about in that article came to pass, it had to be stopped (and you’ll never know the key movers in doing so). Smith should consider if the boot was on the other foot, if he would be happy to allow his club to be subverted in the manner he suggests would be good enough for others. It was simply never an option.
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Off for a week to Murcia/Benidorm with ten mad Tims and one sort of hun.
4-0 to the hoops, no foot off the gas this time.
Taxi on its way, play nice. C’mon the hoops.
Remember ghuys,
We are a small minority
“small minority who spoil the occasion for others” will be targeted on Sunday”
Does anybody think that whilst they are laying the new turf at Hampdump they will also reduce the size of the playing area to assist the Championship sides this weekend?
HH
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He was an android man ☘☘
Mayanman,
Yes, I believe every and any method that can be “got away with” will be used.
What you mentioned has crossed my mind as well.
Judas on Sky panel on Sunday,these clowns are desperate
Bada…,
they are deliberately stoking up the hatred, more hatred the bigger the spectacle for them to sell.
SIPSINI
I almost pity the one “kind of Hun”………………….. Almost:)
Phyllis,
Yeah the rules changed for this year’s competition. Previously the maximum was 4 teams.
In the past spurs (I think) missed out due to Chelsea winning.
HH
Mayanman,
Canny see it. I hope they do though.
It’ll give Warbs another thing to cry about :)
HH
If the polis are targeting the small minority who spoil the occasion for others.
Does that mean if Griffiths, Roberts and CKR score two goals apiece, they are gettin banged up?
Hopefully they spoil the occasion for the Mt Florida half of Hundump :)))
Per BBC Scotland Sports Gossip:
Rangers manager says the European Super League is not far away for his team
Posted at
10:13
Mark Warburton has told The Times that he wants to make sure the Ibrox club are “part of the conversation” if it happens.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36051708
Europe’s major cities better start preparing their defenses and riot squads now.
Drew
Will do mate. Will be good to have a catch up chat.
HH
The Police needn’t have bothered issuing a sensible warning …..Smith and Sally have always played the Ibrox bitterness and hatred ‘ticket’, because, like the shame game, the blame will be diverted elsewhere ….. For goodness sake, the meeja / establishment even tried to divert the blame for the Manchester Riot to Manchester City Council …. hunbelievable
…and some Celtic Supoorters are actually looking forward to the hate-filled hordes of bhuns doing what they do best , albeit in a zombified state….
Hello Jobo,
Weather update. Bring your waterproofs and be prepared to wear them. :-(
Just hung out a washing and another one in the machine as well.
CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 15TH APRIL 2016 10:07 AM
Correct……they are trying their best to carry on the oldco tradition of bigotry and hatred …. they won’t need to try very hard …..
HRVATSKI JIM on 15TH APRIL 2016 10:23 AM
He’s only been there a few months and he’s already the most deluded one there’s ever been. Given the ‘big clubs’ are doing their best to stop the likes of Leicester crashing their party, how on earth does he think they (and I’m afraid probably us) are going to have a meaningful part in it.
The late Paul McConville blog on the” Bitter Myth & him Being Roostered By HMRC a long Read But brilliant analysis
https://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.com/2013/06/02/is-walter-smith-qualified-to-be-plc-chairman-at-rangers-will-his-roosternet-experience-help/#more-3770
Rooster’s Incorporated
https://twitter.com/scotzine/status/720900322298892289
HRVATSKI JIM on 15TH APRIL 2016 10:23 AM
Per BBC Scotland Sports Gossip:
Rangers manager says the European Super League is not far away for his team
Posted at
10:13
Mark Warburton has told The Times that he wants to make sure the Ibrox club are “part of the conversation” if it happens.
they will be part of the conversation…. along the lines of..
your not getting an invite ..
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Dharma Bam. Thanks for the update. Now in Fife, just.
Should Celtic dare to win by more than three goals that will be the reported casus belli for them to riot, the press to empathise and justify the riots, and the government to pass more demographically restrictive law under guise of social purification.
And…
National image will be held responsible for ethnic cultural cleansing.
Human rights as set out in the Treaty of Arbroath will be distained and retracted.
Minorities will be victimised under the guise of unification of the country.
The police will be given almost militaristic powers to suppress any and all dissent or individuality.
The media will endorse the changes and pontificate a doctrine of national purity.
Fear will be promoted to calm any thinkers from within the masses.
Individual religious entities will be intertwined and encouraged to abort their faith for the state faith.
The business aristocracy from the state brotherhood will be protected from any and all criticism at the expense of rampant poverty showered on the poor.
Unions will be ostracised.
Crime and the power of the courts will be bastardised and become the weapon of the state to crush all liberties not in tandem with the vision of the state.
Cronyism and corruption will become the accepted norm.
Surely none of the above which is a road map to fascism couldn’t happen… not in Scotland… surely?
Or are we not just a block away already?
I borrowed the road map from a learned doctor who dared pose the profundity: and they thought that they were free.
Neganon might not have even scratched the surface. How much of the above has already been made manifest? How much?
A hun humping could be the catalyst to take the gloves off.
I’m only joking. Calm down. You are free, your liberties are safe in Scotland. Trust me, I’m a politician, I’m a policeman, I’m a judge, I’m a newspaper editor.
So looks like APN letters starting to arrive at former RFC players’ homes, as was rumoured on SFM last week.
Interesting times. Wonder how many are frantically digging out their “side letter” wondering if its worth the paper it was written on?
Also wonder if this prompted Souness to speak out so oddly on this issue earlier this week?
On another note, well done Liverpool last night. I can’t stand the EPL but Liverpool have always seemed a club rooted in their community and whose fans hold onto the values that made the club special in the first place. Their spirit and verve last night reminded me of us, at our best…
Should Celtic dare to win by more than three goals that will be the reported casus belli for them to riot, the press to empathise and justify the riots, and the government to pass more demographically restrictive law under guise of social purification.
And…
National image will be held responsible for ethnic cultural cleansing.
Human rights as set out in the Treaty of Arbroath will be distained and retracted.
Minorities will be victimised under the guise of unification of the country.
The police will be given almost militaristic powers to surpress any and all dissent or individuality.
The media will endorse the changes and pontificate a doctrine of national purity.
Fear will be promoted to calm any thinkers from within the masses.
Individual religious entities will be intertwined and encouraged to abort their faith for the state faith.
The business aristocracy from the state brotherhood will be protected from any and all criticism at the expense of rampant poverty showered on the poor.
Unions will be ostracised.
Crime and the power of the courts will be bastardised and become the weapon of the state to crush all liberties not in tandem with the vision of the state.
Cronyism and corruption will become the accepted norm.
Surely none of the above which is a road map to fascism couldn’t happen… not in Scotland… surely?
Or are we not just a block away already?
I borrowed the road map from a learned doctor who dared pose the profundity: and they thought that they were free.
Neganon might not have even scratched the surface. How much of the above has already been made manifest? How much?
A hun humping could be the catalyst to take the gloves off.
I’m only joking. Calm down. You are free, your liberties are safe in Scotland. Trust me, I’m a politician, I’m a policeman, I’m a judge, I’m a newspaper editor.
And it was all done with the winds of silence creeping across Paradise’s shores and the graves of our ancestors overflowed with the volumes of tears.
And yesterday was too late to cry out in shame from our shame about the shame.
The shame was silent and nobody ever knew it. No history book recorded it because the shamers shamed the shamed and battered them in a violent silence.
It never happened.
Re-commons
No doubt he would come up with the goods in a game like this but he had barely kicked a ball for us recently so I don’t see him starting.
—– Gordon. ——
–lustig— boyota–mulgrew—tierney–
——- Biton— broony —-
–Roberts—Stefan—McGregor–
——Griffiths——
Probably what I would play this weekend.. McGregor well capable of a goal and bit more physical than GMS.
Jobo,
The bay is a smashing place. Enjoy.
You’re only 20 mins from Burnleys hooch farm. Get along for a wee taster:)
HH
Proudboy,
You’ll not be far away with that. Big Tom, gms or mcgregor for that spot.
Is Erik definitely out? Any news?
HH
Proudbhoy,
I agree with your selection apart from McGregor, think I’d prefer GMS to start. I’d also like to see Rogic play at least 25 minutes, possibly for Johansen (who undoubtedly will pick up a needless booking for acting the hard man…the key word being “acting” of course).
Any Celtic bars in Estepona , San Pedro to be exact
Cqn Facebook request
I noticed that there has been some debate over who would take over penalty duty should we win one on Sunday (I know, I know but still). Has Mulgrew ever taken a pen for us? I remember he used to be decent with the odd free kick back when Lenny was in charge. Perhaps he would have the best temperament in such a situation? I would fear giving the responsibility to like Roberts as it may set him back a while (psychologically) were he to miss.
To someone like Roberts I meant
Penalties?
Give it to Kieran. Time he got a goal for us,and oh Bhoy does he deserve one.
DHARMA BAM on 15TH APRIL 2016 10:05 AM
Mayanman,
Yes, I believe every and any method that can be “got away with” will be used.
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Only one penalty spot marked on pitch ?
And as for that poisonous wee wretch judas being on Sky,just one more reason for Tims to dump them.
City v Real in mushroom league.
HH
To be relocated at half time
BT
You sneaked aff te Spain an no telt awbdy?