Living within your means still resisted

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Michel Platini’s Financial Fair Play initiative at Uefa has been one of the more inspiring developments at the top of our game for decades.  It brought spending into line with income throughout the English game and punished what Platini called financial doping.

It has been so effective, Platini now promises to relax the rules.  The blame does not all sit with Platini.  Uefa are dealing with 10 legal challenges to the rules, with complainant clubs citing European Law in their defence.  The big football powers are split.  The English appear in favour of FPP (Manchester City aside), while many stressed clubs across Europe are in opposition.

The concept of living within your means is still resisted in our game, not just in barred hold-outs in Scotland.

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  1. Natknow,

     

    I’ve no idea of your motives however, I suspect you are suffering from cognitive dissonance and refuse to believe what is staring you in the face, no on has come on here and displayed fear, they to a man/ woman have displayed outrage at another SFA stitch up.

     

    You have taken it on yourself to claim anyone displaying outrage is a coward.

  2. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    This is really pretty much what I was talking about at the top of the page.

     

     

    We all fall out,argue amongst ourselves,some decide to boycott,etc.

     

     

    The club suffers.

     

     

    Huns win.

     

     

    Your call,lads.

  3. the green man

     

     

    11:01 on 20 May, 2015

     

     

    LiviBhoy

     

     

    Why would I write to a group of people who have nothing to say on the matter.

     

    Would that not be pointless?

     

    And im sure, that im not the only Celtic fan who is sick of the cheating and corruption.

     

    Far from it.

     

    ₩₩₩₩₩₩₩₩₩₩₩₩₩₩₩₩₩₩₩₩₩

     

    No, because then you can state you wrote and got no response, instead of statistical g points that have no substance only opinion. I don’t know if Celtic have challenged the SFA on anything pertaining to the last three years, I think the mob ate doing a very good job themselves…

     

     

    And will continue to do so, Dave King is not all he seems I feel..

     

     

    Ayrshire is Green and White

  4. natknow

     

     

    10:50 on 20 May, 2015

     

    LiviBhoy

     

    10:43 on

     

    20 May, 2015

     

    Someone said earlier that Sevco/Rangers were terrified we would win 10 in a row and it had to be stopped at all costs.

     

    It would appear that there is the same terror from Celtic fans who have it counted as won already.

     

    Stop panicking about a team not even in our league yet and get behind Celtic.

     

     

    LB

     

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    This is a valid observation. I’m surprised at the reaction on here just because Dave King got the green light. It suggests people are scared of what he might do. I’ve no idea if Dave King has the intention or the means to pump millions of pounds into sevco. Whatever he does, all that really matters is that we prepare accordingly.

     

     

    ——/-

     

     

    I think the anger and concern is more about how it shows there are no lengths the Sfa won’t stoop to to resurrect the establishment team.

     

     

    And also to undermine our club. Tonev, treble damaging mibbery, guidetti et al.

     

     

    I share all that anger and concern.

     

    And/but I’m not surprised.

     

     

    A Hibs or Motherwell win may well see 13 league team posited as the cure to all scottish football’s ills.

     

     

    HH jamesgang

  5. LiviBhoy:

     

     

    There is not much point in writing Celtic because if they don’t like what you are saying they just forget to reply, or pretend they never received your initial letter in the first place.

     

     

    They lost a sponsor, a globally known sponsor, okay not a major input of coin, but a big name none the less, by this behaviour, not only did they lose that sponsor they lost a couple of season book holders into the equation and they don’t even know it.

     

     

    Celtic, commercially, often, very often, just don’t have a feckin clue. Maybe that’s why they are taking the parochial solution and chasing the bigot pound and the “see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil” uber-jedi-Celtic supporter.

  6. Steinreignedsupreme on

    BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS 11:03 on 20 May, 2015

     

     

    It’s the same people sticking the boot in to the club all the time.

     

     

    Fair dos if the issue is about decisions the Celtic board is responsible for. No one at Celtic is above criticism in matters to do with our club.

     

     

    But there is no logic in blaming the Celtic board for decisions taken by the governing body about any other club.

     

     

    Like I say, it’s the same posters who make the same half-arsed accusations every time.

  7. The Green Man

     

     

    So in summary you are going to have a rant and do nothing?

     

    Celtic’s board meanwhile will do what is right for Celtic.

     

    This club are not in our league yet. Celtic will make the right calls when they have to.

     

    Why the rage about King anyway? What did you want done? You wanted him blocked? I think we should hear more anyway about how they came to this decision being a convicted tax dodger and fraudster but in all honesty they were always going to do what they wanted.

     

    They were liquiated though and nobody will ever take that away.

     

    I will never let them forget it.

     

    Let the dust settle before you start putting the boot into our board. If King is allowed to be a director of any company in the UK then there is nothing the Celtic board can do about it.

     

    I would rather they didn;t rant, rave and moan in the media.

     

    Celtic will deal with things they can influence.

     

    I have faith in the club to do what is right for the club and us the fans.

     

     

    LB

  8. kitalba

     

     

    Interested in the sponsor mate and why season book holders would stop attending due to loss of sponsor.

     

    Not sure I have picked that up correctly but interested all the same.

     

     

    LB

  9. Canamalar

     

     

    Not at all, Im not sure you can claim such a thing as that, slightly ill informed, my comment was deliberate.

     

     

    People seem to have a lack of knowledge about the ‘lodge’ and claim crap like that.

  10. The Green Man on

    I don’t mind taking a bit of stick at all

     

    I might rant and rave, or annoy the cosy wee fantasies of some.

     

    You might not like the way I say this, or that,…whatever.

     

    But I am right when I say that Scottish Football is corrupt.

     

    Would anybody like to dispute that?

  11. channelislandcelt on

    Sandman 07.18

     

    Great post mate . Well said.

     

     

    Had the mis-fortune of listening to the incoherent ramblings of bommer last night.

     

     

    Demanding to know why Tom English and Jim Spence hadn’t carried out proper investigative journalism regarding Craig Whyte .

     

     

    The simple retort from either should have been that the BBC did indeed broadcast an hour long exposè of Mr Whyte .

     

     

    The Outcome ??

     

     

    A baying Hun mob turning up in protest at their door two days later .

     

     

    Loved to have heard bommers response to that one .

     

     

    HH

  12. The Green Man

     

     

    If you have evidence the game is corrupt then I would send it to UEFA and FIFA.

     

    Unfortunately like most of us you are aware that there is a serious lean toward Ibrox and away from Celtic Park but it is not enough to prove anything concrete.

     

    We bide our time on that one. Meanwhile we stick together and back the team and the club.

     

    If there are grievances take them up directly with the club.

     

    I can;t believe the outrage over a guy who has fell off the face of the earth. He even jetted in yet???

     

     

    LB

  13. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    Why would any Celtic supporter imagine that ANY decision or action which has been taken by the Celtic Board over any issue would necessarily have been made public.

     

    Which multi-million pound organisation ,plying it`s trade in a competitive environment,would feel the need to broadcast it`s actions,complaints or opinions to what many of us consider to be a hostile media?

     

     

    We supporters have heard nothing,therefore there`s nothing to be heard and nothing has been done.

     

    Believe that if you must,however…………

     

    Our Celtic deserve better from our supporters.

     

     

    Speak softly and carry a big stick C.S.C.

     

    Hail Hail to the Hibees and their Timmy coach.

  14. LiviBhoy:

     

     

    The sponsors agents are Celtic supporters, they wrote Celtic with personal concerns, not corporate concerns, whilst Celtic waved the begging bowl in their company faces they neglected to reply to their personal letters, maybe Celtic were too busy at that time drafting the 5-way-agreement; who knows, but a global named sponsor chucked it. Believe me it was Celtic’s loss.

  15. Canamalar

     

    11:02 on

     

    20 May, 2015

     

    Natknow,

     

    I’ve no idea of your motives however, I suspect you are suffering from cognitive dissonance and refuse to believe what is staring you in the face, no on has come on here and displayed fear, they to a man/ woman have displayed outrage at another SFA stitch up.

     

    You have taken it on yourself to claim anyone displaying outrage is a coward.

     

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    “You have taken it on yourself to claim anyone displaying outrage is a coward.”.

     

     

    I did no such thing. Here’s what I said in response to Livibhoy’s comments :

     

     

    “This is a valid observation. I’m surprised at the reaction on here just because Dave King got the green light. It suggests people are scared of what he might do. I’ve no idea if Dave King has the intention or the means to pump millions of pounds into sevco. Whatever he does, all that really matters is that we prepare accordingly.”

     

     

    It is reasonable to infer that some people might fear what Dave King might have the capability to do. I called no-one a coward.

     

     

    Who is it that’s being disingenuous? I think it might be you. :-)

  16. The Green Man on

    LiviBhoy

     

     

    Ah…but you see, there is something I can do.

     

    And that is, stop throwing my money away on a rigged game.

     

    So…I have a solution to it.

     

    Individually, it will mean nothing, but if there are other fans like myself, who have had enough and refuse to accept it anymore, then it could mean something.

     

    The cheating and corruption can be challenged, many people on this blog, have done just that….and I applaud them for it.

     

    Me….the only power I have…..is the power to say….no more.

  17. rt rev david hay

     

     

    I would say not, I’m not member of a Masonic lodge, but I have colleagues who are and I have an offer to join. I would never join.

     

     

    What I do know is that people have very obscure and ill informed views of the Masonic lodge based on what I know.

     

     

    so for someone to say its a paedo ring, is a tad offensive to those good people who are part of it.

  18. Steinreignedsupreme

     

    11:10 on

     

    20 May, 2015

     

    BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS 11:03 on 20 May, 2015

     

     

    It’s the same people sticking the boot in to the club all the time.

     

     

    Fair dos if the issue is about decisions the Celtic board is responsible for. No one at Celtic is above criticism in matters to do with our club.

     

     

    But there is no logic in blaming the Celtic board for decisions taken by the governing body about any other club.

     

     

    Like I say, it’s the same posters who make the same half-arsed accusations every time.

     

     

    Celtic is an integral part of the organisation that made the fit and proper decision.

  19. LiviBhoy:

     

     

    Every single Celtic supporter I know that has given up their book, and they are a few and their support stretches back to the late 50’s cites the 5 way agreement as their primary reason as to why they no longer buy a season ticket. They usually follow that up with a few other reasons from a well worn CQN catalogue of reasons.

     

     

    Decades long, life long, supporters are taking their time and interest and passion and coin elsewhere, it begs questions as to why.

  20. kitalba

     

     

    Interesting. I agree the club communications could be better. Probably sifting through all these letters and emails from fans raging about another team.

     

     

    The Green Man

     

     

    So you are hurting your own club in protest against another?

     

    I don;t understand that action. Fair enough.

     

     

    LB

  21. Robert88,

     

    Protect the brotherhood at all costs, of course it was deliberate, it’s what your brothers have been doing for a very long time, whataboutery, never mind us look at the Catholics.

     

    Now as I said, have a look at Westminster the tip of the iceberg, how many children’s homes and orphanages have scandals appeared to be very quickly covered up eh

  22. Steinreignedsupreme on

    quonno 11:19 on 20 May, 2015

     

     

    No one knows how many board members voted in favour of passing King.

     

     

    Celtic are one club. They have no more power at the SFA than any other club – and nor should they.

     

     

    The decision is wrong, but it has nothing to do with Celtic.

  23. LiviBhoy:

     

     

    I’ve written Celtic, never got a reply, never ever mentioned the huns in my letters, why would I, I’m not obsessed by the hun. The hun has every right to exist equal to ours, the SFA do not have the right to favour either/or.

  24. 67Heaven .. CHALLENGING THE LIE ..I am wee Oscar...... Ipox belongs to the creditors on

    quonno

     

     

    11:19 on 20 May, 2015

     

     

    ….and these same posters continue to go to away games……we need to act as a support now, for the long term benefit of Celtic, and Scottish Football, a Scottish Football which has now lost ALL credibility…..

  25. kitalba

     

     

    That’s funny because outside this site I know none who have chucked it on the back of the 5 way agreement.

     

    I know plenty who have chucked it because they go to all the home games and never get offered tickets for semi’s and finals so they sacked it. Why go to all the home games and then never get a ticket for big away matches or cup ties?

     

    Their call.

     

    I know people who chucked it because they felt the fitba was crap.

     

    Their call.

     

     

    I know more who just can;t afford it tho and I am in that boat myself. I am going to share a season ticket next season and once my Bhoy is older buy one outright.

     

     

    We all have our time. I followed Celtic, home, away and abroad for 25 years barely missing a game from the age of 7 until my early 30’s.

     

     

    Sometimes a break is no bad thing.

     

     

    LB

  26. The 5 way agreement, Celtic’s silent complicity (in our name), and the SFA’s capitulation regards stripped titles and the Sevco after the transfer of the licence.

  27. 67Heaven .. CHALLENGING THE LIE ..I am wee Oscar...... Ipox belongs to the creditors on

    kitalba

     

     

    11:26 on 20 May, 2015

     

     

    They do not have ANY right to exist…. Just like other Clubs, Companies, they were liquidated, leaving hundreds of creditors penniless……..deed, gone, buried

  28. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    kitalba

     

    11:17 on

     

    20 May, 2015

     

    macjay1 for Neil Lennon:

     

     

    Did you renew this season?

     

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    Hey,Kit.

     

    Hope you and your`s are all well.

     

    You`ve been in good form recently.

     

    :-)

     

     

    I`m intrigued that you were even aware of that .

     

    Hope I never mentioned it on here.

     

     

    In reply,not as yet,but I expect to head over there in October and may just manage over to the East end with my mob.:-)

     

    Last time I saw our bhoys was in your company.

  29. kitalba

     

     

    I would follow that letter up. Send a duplicate with updated text and ask why you have had no reponse.

     

    There appears to be a communication issue with Celtic.

     

    I have had one major grievance with Celtic and received a reply.

     

    I had an enquiry about season tickets this year and had a reply.

     

    I must have just been lucky.

     

     

    LB

  30. The Green Man on

    So its half-arsed…to be expect Celtic to oppose cheating.

     

    Seriously, its as if some of you want to be cheated.

     

    But…Hey, you will get your wish, that’s for sure.

     

     

    LiviBhoy

     

     

    I am raging, because im fed up seeing Celtic shafted by the SFA,

     

    and because the Celtic board refuse to confront it