Roberto Mancini must have watched plenty of Celtic while planning for the teams Europa League meeting, but there was little to concern the Italian. So much so, he picked an attack-minded team for the Celtic Park leg, and arranged a four-day stay over in Italy before the team headed to St Petersburg.
For a side that looked to be in desperate need for time on the training field, spending more days at airports and in hotels does not look like wise planning. When heading to the dressing room on Thursday night, the last thing anyone in the Zenit party must have wanted was more time on the road, after their trips to Dubai and Turkey. This team needed to get home to find their game face.
It is clear that Zenit failed to show Celtic or Brendan Rodgers sufficient respect in thinking they could win the tie in Glasgow. They are a powerful side, so the outcome remains open, but the question Mancini will most struggle with, is ‘Where did that Celtic performance come from?’ He has no idea what to expect from Celtic in St Petersburg, nor do his players.
There’s been a bit of chat online about the risk, or otherwise, to Celtic fans in St Petersburg this week. Celtic’s Supporter Liaison Officer, John Paul Taylor, has been in touch with SLOs from Liverpool, Rosenburg and Benfica, each of whom faced Zenit recently. Their advice is:
“All Clubs recommend that fans use the buses which will depart from pick up point close to the Petrovsky stadium (see map attached) they stated that this is the safest way to get to the Stadium. Fans are asked to be at the pick up point at 18:30 and Police will lead the buses in a convoy at 19:00.
“Fans who travel with Celtic Travel should use their own buses and all other fans should use the municipal buses, there will be a few of us on hand to provide assistance if required. At Full Time, fans who are on the Celtic Charter must return to their own bus as these will head straight to the airport. I’ve asked that the municipal buses take fans back to the Petro Palace Hotel but it looks like they will only take fans back to the original pick up point, if this changes I’ll update it on my twitter @CelticFCSLO
“The other advice given was that fans should not wear colours if going into town at night, all three Clubs stressed this quite strongly and also advised fans to stay in larger groups, their advice was not to walk around town in small numbers.
“As far as we are aware, taxis are the best way to get around, the Metro is available however Liverpool fans encountered some issues when using the Metro again though this was when it was fans in small groups.”
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Personally I think Mancini just seen it as an ideal excuse for a trip home, he misses the Italian equivalent of a roll n’ skwerr.
PARKHEADCUMSALFORD on 20TH FEBRUARY 2018 12:45 PM
BADA BING,
Their panic is so obvious and the fix is in. Madhun after Beaton. All we need now is Collum against Dundee
*seems to be a split in the SFA ranks with gas meter in one with the good guys, imbibes time for us to throw our substantial weight about.
Barney67
a wee calf wi Amarone
OLDTIM67
Your Grammar and typing are more than fine for this place. I can see you hold yourself to high standards, but compared to some of the eejits who post here ( myself included ), your posts are always eloquent, informative and easy to read.
Please don’t stop posting.
!!BADA BING!! on 20TH FEBRUARY 2018 2:08 PM
Juat watched the Wall St sequel, very good, some great music from David Byrne in it…
*Bellsmyre bhoy who used tae listen tae Irish and Scottish folk music while living in Hamilton Ontario and Maryland.
I see the SFA’s Scottish Cup Sponsor has just been fined £6.2m for failure to adequately patrol money laundering.
We will never be able to look down our noses at corrupt Italians etc; again.
The TV thing is not just about football. It’s the unreported news, the Banks, the money launderers etc who call in favours.
For instance, ask if BBC staffing reflects the population.
Why do we have an undoubted feminist agenda, whether you like it or not?
I’ll go along with it when Serena Williams plays the same amount of sets in tennis as Federer does for the same money.
We now have pension age retirement equality for men and women.
Do I want equality?
You bet—-and I’ll even wear a black dress to prove it.
Me too.
Raymac
On the flip side with pension equality Mrs Gene loses 6 years pension – over £30k
JOHN51 on 20TH FEBRUARY 2018 3:16 AM
Tontine Tim
Liked reading your stuff about during WW2.
Reading between the lines it seems that Catholic workers were let go while Protestant men stayed in the yard. Is this true?
My dad is long dead, but he was a sheet metal worker in Fairfields in Govan. He was 21 when war broke out, yet he ended up as flight crew in Bomber Command. I can’t figure out why he was taken from a war essential job.
*that’s an interesting question, my first response would have been only those involved in the war effort were not called up,however, that only became law 18 month after the conflict had started.
It seems your da was already in a shipyard so I can only put that down to favouritism. My maternal grampa who had been in WWI and would have been too old for WWII worked in the Blackburn Aircraft plant in Dumbarton as did my mother and at least one of her sisters but her brothers of eligibility were dispatched to the front.
The war was like our team where colour, race or creed didnae matter all were eligible but it seems that some in Scotland especially were exempt and I’m looking at the craft’s or lol’s intervention here, else how come only one player of note from a certain shipyard based club, and that’s the key word here of note as they did have minor players called up, and they love tae remind us of that, was called up.
I recall asking my father-in-law who was a pow for the duration of the conflict about this legendary ger and his opinion was they mibbees didnae realise how good he was at the time, also they had the striking duo of smith and mcphail, 455 goals between them, incidentally the latter refused to play for Scotland in one game unless Jimmy McGrory was picked, he did make wartime appearances for them in spite of being in uniform but prior to WWII he had only 24 appearances scoring 9 goals, it was post war that he made his name, by this time smith and mcphail had both retired and the rest of the country’s teams were rebuilding.
So too answer your question, the shipyards and mines I believe had more than their fair share of war effort exemptions and the Clyde was full of shipyards then so it would probably be up to the management who went and who stayed. BTW did you know that in John Browns management wore bowler hats on the job, hmmm where else did you use tae see bowler hatted men walking about.
Paul67
have you read this
https://johnjamessite.com/2018/02/20/going-nuclear-in-dunfermline/
I remember a lot of excitement at the time
Just finished watching highlights of the weekends games.
Our game referreed by Beaton was so typical of games this season, automatic bookings being ignored early in the match to allow physical spoiling tactics to continue. In the first half St Johnstone should have had 3 cast iron yellows, they received one.
In Hamilton v TRFC, Bobby Madden denied Hamilton 2 penalties then gave a third late in the game when insignificant.
In Hibs v Aberdeen Andrew Dallas failed to issue a clear 2nd yellow card to Kenny McLean which would have resulted in red and a suspension, missing the next match against yep Celtic.
Hopefully the move on brigade can understand how this tactic is totally inadequate in our environment.
Time to turn the noise up not down.
WDH
Rotolo e quadrato
i think ;-)
Blame google translate, before all the Tallybhoys start correcting me.
Going to war – hope this works
https://twitter.com/frannybhoy1888/status/663389245667729410
Gene
Having the Conspiracy theory backed re the Dunfermline game by someone who believes the moon landings were faked, Diana was murdered, the CIA shot Kennedy, and does not seem to demur from any any modern conspiracy theory, is not a good way to have your case taken more seriously.
I am not saying that one or more of those events does not differ from its official record but to believe them all suggests a level of open-mindedness which is close to gullibility.
Wonder how that water-siphoning charge from the local RC church is getting on or do we just ignore this guy’s record for wild-eyed wish-fulfilling speculation?
Took my grandsons to see ‘early man’ – at the end a football game between stone age and bronze age man – anyway I’m sure the ref (lord nose) modeled himself on Beaton.
thiswontmakemuchsenseunlessyouveseenitCSC
Who would win a fight between Mick McCarthy and Roy Keane.?
SFTB
i remember this blog getting excited when the ‘story’ was first suggested – long before JJ got involved
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Re the advice on not using the St Petersburg subway – i’m sure the same advice was given to the Zenit supporters in Glasgow – especially not to get off at Copeland Rd :))
SID on 20TH FEBRUARY 2018 3:49 PM
Just finished watching highlights of the weekends games.
Our game referreed by Beaton was so typical of games this season, automatic bookings being ignored early in the match to allow physical spoiling tactics to continue. In the first half St Johnstone should have had 3 cast iron yellows, they received one.
*cast your mind back 10+ years to a game in which we had 9 players booked at hades and their 2 were in the closing minutes, we lost 0-3 tae.
Gene
And we’ve heard a deafening silence since that particular gun was jumped.
I like CQN but I do not consider the word of Paul to be foolproof. Both with the resurrection of the Dunfermline rumour and the new rumour of Bobby Madden’s gambling addiction, we have seen two instances of coat trailing without any folow up.
That suggests to me that someone did not follow through with promised “proof” and the story has been shelved awaiting such proof. Or the promised provider of the proof has been exposed as a hoax and the story has been killed before firther reputational damage is sustained.
I would prefer CQN to operate like our transfer policy and not to proclaim anything until it is ready to be stood up as a story.
Raymac
Would you also want the female doctor who treats you brilliantly on the nhs to continue to be paid less than her male equivalent?
Unrepentant Fenian Feminist CSC
D17- will keep an eye out for it ta
Gullible’ is the most commonly used word in the English language that doesn’t appear in any dictionary.
SFTB
here’s one article – at the end it says ‘developing story’
https://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/lying-down-at-ibrox-the-irony/
SFTB
should have added – it got the hares running
Tontine Tim and PCS: I was at both games mentioned earlier against Der Hun.
The first is probably why I still think CPT is the best player we ever had.Remember,we hardly won more games than we lost,and,as for trophies? What were they?
Memories of the second are of huddling down behind trackside wall and hands over back of head.It was not unusual to have to adopt said position in those days and your Dad would be down asap bottles or not.That game was the only time I saw a polisman pick up a hatchet after it was all over.Mostly bottles landed on the trackside anyway.
The other point about shipyard loyal I don’t really know about but my Dad and one brother were in the local shipyard and the youngest brother was in Army (POW from Burma) and was first to die.
The main thing about the shipyard men who went to watch Celtic that I remember was that was only one tradesman!! The original Token Tim before Tontime!!!!!!!
Keep posting,I love the memories..
Unrepentant Fenian Females
RAYMAC on 20TH FEBRUARY 2018 2:44 PM
I’ll repeat this. Refuse to pay your BBC licence. If enough people do so then the outside world will take notice.
*In the years I lived at hame after returning fae here I never had one, our first tele was given tae us by a family member and then we rented our next (colour) one.
One day Mrs TT was out at the van and one of the neighbours came running up. “Quick the licence van is in the next square”, a wee bit embarrassed she didnae know what tae dae until she turned round and their square had emptied, it seems naebody had a licence lol, she still talks about that to this day.
Secondly, ask EUFA how a proven bigot like Dallas has gotten to such a high position when he labelled a world leader, the Pope, a child abuser in an email?
*as I often say, the tentacles of the ludge etc., plus the SFA would have recommended him.
Further, how can it be possible for the SFA to allow him to incite other refs to strike action and then offer to call it off if he was re-instated?
*they didnae, for all reagan’s fault seemingly he kicked him oot of his office while using industrial language, but he still had ogilvie, petrie and mccrae having his back, the craft is the cancer that Scotland, unlike Norway another oil producing country with a similar population, flounders on. “Oh I’d rather be a Viking than a breest barer”.
Lastly, under the Freedom of Information Act, how many members of the SFA, theJudiciary, the Scottish Parliament et ain’t, are members of the Freemasons or other groups? It would be interesting to say the least.
*probably more than is good for society, Big Nan took them on and lost.
Conspiracy theories have a habit of coming true.
Talking equality : Was Animal Farm funded directly or indirectly by the CIA?
During my time off ill, I have been enjoying the Netflix show “Damnation”
It’s good to see America tackling its troubled past and exposing its long history of private militias and privatised law.
Gene
“here’s one article – at the end it says ‘developing story’
it got the hares running”
It is dated Aug 2017 amd you have heard nothing since- what does that tell you?
What hares? Running to where?
The last school shooting in the USA brought out a lot of grief and anger from the local population – quite rightly. Certainly many were criticising the gun laws. However I got to wondering how many parents of the students or students themselves are gun owners.
SFTB
I agree – I was just pointing out that on this occasion JJ didn’t start it – I am also disappointed that Paul67 didn’t write a stand down piece – unless I missed it
Troops deployed, Bobby Madhun manoeuvres to Pitoddrie on Sunday and John Beaton jumps on the subway for Ibrokes on Saturday in the latest SPL instalment
BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 20TH FEBRUARY 2018 4:22 PM
Gullible’ is the most commonly used word in the English language that doesn’t appear in any dictionary
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R u sure ????????? Or am I just being gullible :-)))
Greenpinata
“Conspiracy theories have a habit of coming true.”
Only if you ignore the vast majority which do not.
Hilda Murrell e.g.
Talking equality : Was Animal Farm funded directly or indirectly by the CIA?
Definitely indirectly funded. Eric Blair marched to a different drum and was nobody’s paid schill. But he and Arthur Koestler, who published the more damning anti-Soviet novel “Darkness at Noon” were both funded by the CIA via ncounter, as was Dennis Healey. All this has been an open secret, researched and backed -up for over 50 years.
And that;s what happens with conspiracies. People blurt out secrets and they get exposed.
You cannot conclude that becayse people have, at least on one occasion, engaged in conspiracy, that all suggestions of conspiracy are eqully plausible. You still require proof and evidence therwise we can all be accused of being in conspiracy, or a clique, as it is described on CQN, usually with BMCUW being cast in the CIA role.