Roberto Mancini must have watched plenty of Celtic while planning for the teams Europa League meeting, but there was little to concern the Italian. So much so, he picked an attack-minded team for the Celtic Park leg, and arranged a four-day stay over in Italy before the team headed to St Petersburg.
For a side that looked to be in desperate need for time on the training field, spending more days at airports and in hotels does not look like wise planning. When heading to the dressing room on Thursday night, the last thing anyone in the Zenit party must have wanted was more time on the road, after their trips to Dubai and Turkey. This team needed to get home to find their game face.
It is clear that Zenit failed to show Celtic or Brendan Rodgers sufficient respect in thinking they could win the tie in Glasgow. They are a powerful side, so the outcome remains open, but the question Mancini will most struggle with, is ‘Where did that Celtic performance come from?’ He has no idea what to expect from Celtic in St Petersburg, nor do his players.
There’s been a bit of chat online about the risk, or otherwise, to Celtic fans in St Petersburg this week. Celtic’s Supporter Liaison Officer, John Paul Taylor, has been in touch with SLOs from Liverpool, Rosenburg and Benfica, each of whom faced Zenit recently. Their advice is:
“All Clubs recommend that fans use the buses which will depart from pick up point close to the Petrovsky stadium (see map attached) they stated that this is the safest way to get to the Stadium. Fans are asked to be at the pick up point at 18:30 and Police will lead the buses in a convoy at 19:00.
“Fans who travel with Celtic Travel should use their own buses and all other fans should use the municipal buses, there will be a few of us on hand to provide assistance if required. At Full Time, fans who are on the Celtic Charter must return to their own bus as these will head straight to the airport. I’ve asked that the municipal buses take fans back to the Petro Palace Hotel but it looks like they will only take fans back to the original pick up point, if this changes I’ll update it on my twitter @CelticFCSLO
“The other advice given was that fans should not wear colours if going into town at night, all three Clubs stressed this quite strongly and also advised fans to stay in larger groups, their advice was not to walk around town in small numbers.
“As far as we are aware, taxis are the best way to get around, the Metro is available however Liverpool fans encountered some issues when using the Metro again though this was when it was fans in small groups.”
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POGMANTHONY,
I lived in Miri around the time Shaun Maloney was born nearby. I am still in contact with quite a few people there.
BSR- LB in new series of Blue Bloods
Tickets for Zenit v. Celtic are sold out. There will be 51 000 Zenit fans at the stadium.
Zenit officials confirmed that there is new pitch ready for the game. No one played on it before. It’s artificial and real fifty fifty grass .
Would John Beaton have yellow carded Elise Christie?
Anybody at the game on Sunday could see Beaton was poor. However, we didn’t do anywhere near enough to win the game. We need to get our own house in order before we go blaming the referees. I would prefer it if Madden wasn’t referee for the Aberdeen game this coming Sunday or any Celtic match thereafter but we need to rise above it and be better then we have been. If we are not then the referee comes into the equation. That’s the way it is and it will always be I’m afraid.
Zenit are going to shut the roof on. One of the reasons is up the noise inside.
peter Green ? John Mayall
You can feel the pain in the guitar solohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hm_GtZ-1Io
Paul67
Good article.
Mancini is still underestimating Celtic, its an Inter thing?
We got caught up in underating ourselves given MSM cynicism of Celtic and Scottish Football, even
our supporters in England, and overseas look down on the SPL.
Zenit are a big time set up but so are Manchester City beaten again by rugby town’ west of the
big smoke.
Zenit like City met Euro night Celtic hee haw to do with winter breaks.
Ooooppppppsss dog walking spacing sorry
Celtic Park might also be close to 50:50 grass by the end of the season if it breaks up any more!!
SFTB
on netflix Ugly Delicious
and red with hares
white with rabbit (more often)
Will Beaton be as lenient to the Hearts players this weekend as he was to the St Johnstone last Sunday . I think we know the answer to that.
We were not at our best on Sunday however , Beaton’s performance was the worst on show.
He pulled up Moussa for a high boot despite the nearest ‘Saints ‘ player not being directly next to him. The week before the Thistle goalie, caught Moussa on the chest with a high boot, the ref waved play on.
I fully expect us to get a well dodgy decision in our favour in a game against a bottom six team to show refs are not against us.
Winter Olympics ?⛷️?
Bada
Starring the ole Tam Selick ?
Beaton Beaton where the heck is Beaton
Madhun Madhun where the heck is Madhun
McLean McLean where the heck is McLean
Thomson Thomson where the heck is Thomson
Donati to St Mirren
Bourne , they are all doon ra ludge
I put in a FOI request to the BBC about the amount of fees paid to the EBT recipients over 2016 and 2017 – got a reply – an excerpt
“Freedom of Information request – RFI20180316
Thank you for your request to the BBC of 16 February 2018, seeking the following information
under the Freedom of Information Act 2000:
The information you have requested is excluded from the Act because it is held for the purposes
of ‘journalism, art or literature.’ The BBC is therefore not obliged to provide this information to
you. Part VI of Schedule 1 to FOIA provides that information held by the BBC and the other
public service broadcasters is only covered by the Act if it is held for ‘purposes other than those of
journalism, art or literature”. The BBC is not required to supply information held for the
purposes of creating the BBC’s output or information that supports and is closely associated with
these creative activities.1
You may not be aware that one of the main policy drivers behind the limited application of the Act
to public service broadcasters was to protect freedom of expression and the rights of the media
under Article 10 European Convention on Human Rights (“ECHR”).
So they reckon what they produce on shortbread is Journalism – need to look up the definition :((
Gene- good try, maybe ask if Level 5 are on the payroll?
SFTB
So I am one of the gullible whom you speak of, I would go further and add a few more to the list, but those mentioned will do for now.
I honestly thought you were a tad more open minded, seems I was wrong, that’s what I get for being a gullible fool I suppose.
HH
Good Evening Folks,
Just a quick note to say that over 200 seats have been reserved already for the One Night in Lisbon Dinner on Friday 25th May 2018 at the Kerrydale Suite Celtic Park.
The tickets are £65 each to include the three course meal, a welcome drink, and all entertainment.
We will have a great line up of music, video presentations, some short speeches, charity raffles and auctions and a huge party atmosphere.
Hopefully we will be celebrating a fabulous double treble and Celtic are going to make sure that all available trophies are there on the night for photographs.
There will be a huge party atmosphere and we will raise a good sum for charity.
So if you want to come please get in quick by e-mailing me at jjoe88@hotmail.co.uk ASAP
Cheers
BRTH
David17@4:11pm
“Season Ticket holders should be aware that the renewal window for 2018/19 Season Tickets is scheduled to open week commencing April 2nd”
*****
If the Compliance Officer hasn’t reported by then, maybe the window should be opened a day earlier.
TET
Read it again!
My point was that, becuase there have been conspiracies does not mean that every conspiracy assertion is equally plausible. I also said that, if you believe them all, you are in danger of being too open minded such that no filters apply. I cited JJ’s Ibrox water siphoning from the chapel as one of those.
If you believe, having read evidence and counter evidence, with a sceptical enquiring mind, in one or more of the major conspiracy theories (and i recall it was the Moon Landings you had expressed doubt on before) then fair play to you.
But where too much is accepted without acknowledging the counter evidence that undermines the doubts, then I think that is too open minded.
In short
I believe and can evidence that there have been conspiracies.
I know there have been many long standing and resilient conspiracy theories (usually referencing Jewish blood lust or child stealing) which don’t disappear even when their fictional source has been laid forensicaly clear before the public.
The fact that some people have conspired successfully does not mean that all are equally plausible. All of them, official theory and alternative explanation, demand evidence and supporting argument.
Most conspiracies unravel because people talk so we sometimes invent all powerful organisations with blood oaths to account for when they don’t. But even the totalitarian Soviet Bloc did not manage to keep quiet the truth behind its show trials nor the Nazis conceal the existence of the Holocaust before the camps were liberated. Even then, with filmed proof some right wingers were still able to convince themselves this was just Allied propoganda.
There is a very infuriating polemical book by David Aaronovitch (Voodoo Histories: The Role of the Conspiracy Theory in Shaping Modern History). It goes too far in the direction of fierce scepticism and a willingness to buy each and every official theory but the one thing it does not do is skimp the evidence or fail to include the alternative viewpoint, using its own words.
That’s the kind of voice I trust- one that will look at the other viewpoint and give it fair weight and consideration. And that applies both ways to those of us too willing to defer to authority and to those too willing to accept rumour without evidence.
This all started from my refusal to accept Greenpinata’s point that conspiracy theories have a tendency to become true. I believe the opposite is true – most are disproven and many discarded and forgotten. That does not mean one or more conspiracy theory may be true- it may even be the one you believe in. Powers and elites do conspire against us, usually with the aim of preserving their power and treasure. And they mostly do it in plain sight and get away with it.
Listening to John Hughes I can’t understand why he wanted the Scotland job. Surely hold out for Real Madrid?
Nowhere in my posts did I oppose equal pay for women My daughter is a GP in Falkirk. I am intensely proud of her. She makes her male colleagues run to keep up with her.
I was not responsible for anyone losing years on their pension.
The Tories did that.
Equality? ——Well give you equality!!
re John Hughes
Was speaking to a pal who was moved for Zenit game, was under the impression seats moved for corporate or uefa but seems John Hughes was sitting in his seat
Glasstwothirdsfull
Given their current position in La Liga,(17 points behind Barça), they might just take him!
SFTB
I read what you said and understood it :-)
The moon landings were the first for me, as the years have gone on they are breeding by the score, the 9-11 thing being a perfect example of doing it in plain sight and getting away with it, there is footage from TV crews in their helicopters taking picks of the first tower on fire, all of a sudden the second tower is hit, not a plane in sight, now you have thought that at least of of the crews would have seen a passenger plane heading for the second tower, but no, the first sighting of a plane is an hour or so later on the main stream news, I won’t even bother mentioning building 7, far too man real genuine people have questioned the events, the film of the firemen telling of explosions in a controlled manner all the way down the building just before it collapsed, they were all liars I suppose.
Of course I look at both sides of the argument, in saying that my starting point is not to believe what they want me to believe.
The Lee Rigby thing is another, why would they move the supposed crime scene from one end of the street to the other, I spoke to a friend who saw the media fest and she was astounded when they moved the crime tent to the other end of the street, she reckoned it was a film or TV thing in the making, the supposed killers are not in the brit prison system btw, they are nowhere to be found, why when someone was supposedly hacked to death, decapitated we were told, was there no blood at the supposed crime scene, maybes they had the cleaners in before it was on the tele, that’s it.
Listen, I have been told by many that I am off my head, I am confident that those who tell me that are the ones off their’s :-)
HH
SFTB
There have been dozens of conspiracy theories that have been proven. Most have involved very brave investigative individuals taking on the establishment machine, organised crime and the mainstream media.
A very powerful combination indeed.
I have read the ” 1969 Moonlandings ” in detail and just cannot accept the establishment line.
I would wager you know about operation Northwoods. If so , 9/ 11 conspiracy theories are totally vindicated in both science and motive.
Hail Hail to you.
I’m always interested with conspiracy theory groups who claim they want to know the truth. I have read a report from a senior British architect and structural engineer who was present during the building of the Twin Towers. When i go on 9/11 websites and mention this not one of them has asked me what it says.
BT- a good pal has opened a cafe/bar along from the community centre your wee yin goes to, at the wee row of shops beside it, cracking pint too….:))
So a 5 1/2 hour flight, -11 at kick off time, new pitch, full stadium with the roof shut. A bit different then
ZBYSZEK on 20TH FEBRUARY 2018 4:59 PM
Are they a noisy crowd?
Moon Landings
I have read hundreds of books about the moon landings, from astronauts, engineers (US, German and Russian), technicians and NASA personnel. I have read books and articles from the astronomers who followed the Apollo craft, who measured where they were and relayed the communications.
I have talked to astronomers who have measured the distance of the moon to a micron by bouncing light of the mirrors that were left by the Apollo mission.
I have seen moon rock and spoken to a geologist who has studied it. I have seen images of the print outs from the seismographs left on the moon.
I have seen photographs from Russian Chinese and the latest Japanese low orbiting lunar satellites which show the various landing sites, the tracks from the lunar rover and the burn marks from the Apollo take off.
Celtic40me
Less than 3 hrs flying time just over 1300miles, they are 3 hrs ahead time wise.
Interesting discussion on conspiracy theories. Of course the phras conspiracy theory is used to dismiss actual conspiracies.
But I do despair about the tendencies to discount the moon landings and 9 11. These I’m afraid TET are peddling by right wing nutters desperate for the end of days/the rapture/breakdown of civilisation/zombie outbreak.
Frankly if you buy into the bullshit that guys like Jesse Ventura peddle then you are in danger of just being like this ump who peddles fake news are real news and calls real news as fake news.
Who’d have thunk that the liberation of information would simply lead to an inability to communicate eh.
Ah I well remember that the conspiracy in Scotland isn’t a theory. Just a conspiracy.
Yorkbhoy me too. I genuinely think that Capricorn film has a lot to answer for (gr at film and story) but all hundr da and thousands of workers scientists etc must be an amazing secret to ke p.
Right wing guff.
DESSYBHOY on 20TH FEBRUARY 2018 7:22 PM
Celtic40me
Less than 3 hrs flying time just over 1300miles, they are 3 hrs ahead time wise.
So it is, 5 1/2 hours includes a stop. -11 was the temperature, though, not the time difference. ;)
CELTIC40ME
St Pete’s is about 1300 miles from Glasgow.
About the same as to the Algarve.
3 and a bit hours to the Algarve.
How come 5 1/2 hours?
geographicllychallengedcsc