McIntyre witness evidence of DOS scheme tax overdues

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For any football club to be licenced to play in Uefa competition it has to be up to date with social taxes. The world wondered why in the years prior to their liquidation owing tens of millions to HRMC, Rangers managed to remain up to date for every licence application (made through the SFA).

Football authorities are bound by certain limitations. They can oblige clubs to make them aware of any overdue taxes, but if this information is not forthcoming, they have no powers to demand information from the tax authorise. In short, if you lie, you will get away with it, until and unless you are caught.

Nor can football authorities deal in information of dubious probity. “Some guy on the internet gave me this document” which they should not legally be in possession of, is not the basis to charge a club.

At Craig Whyte’s trial at Glasgow High Court this morning, former director of former Rangers, Donald McIntyre, faced questions from defending counsel and also former director of former Rangers, Donald Findlay.

McIntyre was shown a document dated 2010 from HMRC to Rangers saying tax for PAYE and National Insurance was due on Rangers Discount Options Scheme (DOS), involving players Tore Andre Flo, Craig Moor and Ronald de-Boer was “payable in full”. This tax was never paid and £500k of interest accrued until the club went into liquidation.

McIntyre told the court Rangers had “no choice but to accept liability” as due to the existence of a “side letter”.

Despite this, Rangers signed off their licence application in March 2011, which enabled them to take Scotland’s Champions League qualification spot for season 2011-12.

The irony of this information coming out in a fraud trial will not have escaped you. Some key points:

Information that Rangers were overdue to HMRC prior to their Uefa licence application in 2011 has been confirmed by a competent officer of the company for the first time, in open court.

Rangers DOS scheme for Flo, Moore and Ronald De-Boer was not subject to the SPL’s Lord Nimmo Smith Commission inquiry and has not, thus far, been investigated.

Mr McIntyre is still in the witness box giving evidence.
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  1. Did a Corkie.

     

    Barney

     

     

    Like yourself don’t think it will make any difference but there was a precedent set in the same match with a yellow being given for the foul on Tierney in the same match but….huns do what huns do. Ffs look at the appointments for Saturdays game.

     

     

    Sftb

     

     

    Unbelievable post last night. May Danny RIP and memories of your Elder brother help you and your extended family through this difficult time.

     

     

    HH YNWA

  2. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 25TH APRIL 2017 11:58 AM

     

    WHATISTHESTARS

     

     

     

    I got a mail this morning from one of his antipodean friends.

     

     

     

    In my reply,I asked him to mail MACJAY to tell him to get his sorry rightwing arse back on here.

     

     

     

    I might have sugarcoated that last bit a tad,but the sentiment was the same(!)

     

     

     

    I miss my sparring partner of eight years,he could sure keep me on my toes. Even as I’m reading his stuff,gaun ffs,mate,I could picture him in his lair wi an evil grin and a wee white tabby on his lap!!!!

  3. Must be a mistake in the title ‘….evidence of DOS scheme tax…’ ???

     

     

    ‘DOB scheme tax’ surely?

     

     

    HaventreadthearticleCSC

  4. And then I read Gary67 summation of Lunny.

     

    Doesn’t matter any way. Will be shocked beyond belief if Robertshun decision not upheld.

     

    If wearing green and white hoops guilty until proven innocent….if wearing green and white hoops guilty regardless.

     

    HH

  5. BMCUW

     

     

    The law is an ass?

     

     

    Red, or yellow, more like fifty shades of grey.

     

     

    You like potato and I like potahto

     

     

    You like tomato and I like tomahto

     

     

    Potato, potahto, Tomato, tomahto.

     

     

    Let’s call the whole thing off CSC

  6. Incredible stuff coming out this morning. Res12 and Title Stripping must now be firmly on Celtic’s agenda. There is no hiding place anymore.

  7. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    PAUL67

     

     

    I’ve never understood why this enquiry and prosecution was allowed.

     

     

    It was obvious that the maggots within the rotted corpse were going to be exposed.

     

     

    In fact,Donald Findlay is doing a wonderful job in exposing it. Personally,I didn’t doubt his concern for the well-being of his client,and desire for the the truth to be played out in court.

     

     

    I know,blind faith,but heyho…

     

     

    The people who wanted this all to go away-those who really killed Rangers-must be raging at those who went after the ones they decided had killed Rangers.

     

     

    Personally,huvnae laughed so much since

     

     

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EFgdhZGLJrY

  8. I take your cue to be cautious, Paul67, about the ongoing court proceedings . Still, I have to say that today’s events, as reported, have given me a great wee lift in spirit. Looks like the Donald is getting at the truth.

     

     

    O happy day(s)…………

  9. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    To repeat an earlier post,my grateful thanks to all who offered recommendations for grub in Oban.

     

     

    My sister et al are well-chuffed.

     

     

    I wasn’t much help as I couldnae find a local McDonalds!

     

     

    HH

  10. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    BOURNESOUPRECIPE

     

     

    Indeed.

     

     

    And the only people who can do anything about it sit in the posh seats,free of charge.

     

     

    We know we are getting done over on a regular basis.

     

     

    We know the refs take every chance they get.

     

     

    We know the opposition kick the bejaysus with no comeback.

     

     

    I know what I’d do if I had bosses like that.

  11. VFR800 is now a Monster 821 on

    SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 24TH APRIL 2017 8:26 PM

     

     

    A very sad and sobering post. Dreadful circumstances to deal with: first the word and concern at Danny’s admission to hospital followed by good news, only to be stunned by the sad news of his death.

     

     

    May god look after you and yours during this difficult time.

     

     

     

    KTF

  12. Allegedly John Beaton got so jealous of all the thuggery that Willie Collum was getting to ignore that he marched into John Fleming’s office yesterday and demanded he get the gig on Saturday.

     

     

    Can’t be Beaton…

  13. ref the other article today

     

     

    aberdeen want 50% of the tickets for the cup final.

     

     

     

    The League cup final attendance was – 49,629

     

    The hampden capacity in now 51,866.

     

     

    There were 2,200 unoccupied seats.

     

    Most of them in the south stand (main stand top deck corner, and below, and several rows around the front of the west stand , deid huns end). All Aberdeen areas.

     

     

    The SFA must hold back at least 2,000 seats. And if Aberdeen dont completely sell them out , with 2 weeks to go, they these should be given to celtic.

     

     

    There are very easy segregation splits to allow that to happen as well.

     

     

    Play fair …………. ya Dobbers.

  14. GlassTwoThirdsFull on

    Paul,

     

    I reckon you have just set a world record for mentions of the word “former” in an article :-)

  15. Rumours on Twitter that big Moussa has torn tendon at top of hamstring. Needs surgery out 6-9 months.

     

     

    HH

     

     

    KTF

     

     

    UTLR

  16. ST stivs

     

     

    There was a full section or two empty in the Hun end. Caught on camera a couple of times but generally out of camera shot. Well planned and orchestrated by SFA and SKY to maximise the apparent interest from Sheep.

     

     

    MWD

  17. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    SAINTSTIVS

     

     

    It’s a difficult one to work out. Every team which teaches a final wants an even split of the tickets.

     

     

    Even those with an average crowd of three men and a dug.

     

     

    ”Tis always thus.

     

     

    A coupla years back,Oxford Utd were due at Wembley for a play-off,my colleague-who has lived there all his life-proudly proclaimed that he had tix for him,his wife,his two kids.

     

     

    I asked him what colours they played in.

     

     

    ?

  18. !!Bada Bing!! on

    SS- i think those of us on Home Ticket Scheme will be balloted for cup final tickets, sponsors and fatcats ready to pounce…

  19. Today has lessened the good feeling I had since Sunday. I have just learned that my cousin Joe died in Arizona. Added to that Joe’s brother’s sister-in -law died at the weekend of pancreatic cancer which was only noted four weeks ago. Her sister my cousin’s wife is suffering from renal failure. All in in a week of sad news. Though there is the hope that they have risen with the Risen Lord to eternal glory.

     

     

    If you are able would you say a little prayer for all of them.

  20. Bonjour,

     

     

    Trebles, Transfers, DOS’ers and High court cases – we live in interesting times.

     

     

    However, one thing that nips ma pedantic knitting is the use of the word “unplayable” to describe any standout performance by a player. How’d this translate into a superlative? I mean – unfit / untidy / uncool etc usually has negative connotation. No?

     

     

    So unplayable? Does that mean the players not playable? If so where is he/she – nipped oot for a kebab, at home on the Playstation?

     

     

    The public should be told.

     

     

    Now.

     

     

    :-)

  21. !!BADA BING!! on 25TH APRIL 2017 1:05 PM

     

     

    The amateur clubs get an allocation too. It’s not just sponsors and fatcats.

  22. 50 shades of green on

    BADA—–

     

     

    Think all on the home ticket scheme, will get one.

     

     

    Dont think we have 20,000 on the hcts, although I have been wrong before, so you never know.

     

     

    Also attendance at previous rounds should be taken into consideration. Imho

     

     

    H.H

  23. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Ernie- true, but due to the importance of the game, i think lots of tickets will get hoovered up by those and suchlike HH

  24. Bada Bing

     

     

    re. Unhappy Gilmour from earlier.

     

     

    I don’t think it’s the same guy though there is a likeness.

     

     

    @notinmyname45: Is that Billy Gilmour in the celtic end https://t.co/9mizxWGadU

     

     

    If you compare with @Billygilmourr pics from his profile on twitter

     

     

    MWD

  25. mullet and co 2 on

    From Andrew Black BBC also covering the case via live twitter feed. These tweets follow the admittance of liability.

     

     

    ‘Mr McIntyre asked if some kind of payment was made to stop interest running’. (On wee tax case)

     

     

    ‘Mr McIntyre says he understands there was not, because of advice at the time that the ruling could be challenged’.

  26. weebawbabitty on

    SFTB, just a newbie on here but lurked everyday for years , always liked your posts , very brave post under circumstances again thoughts with you and your family

  27. Margaret McGill on

    The Fraud charge against Whyte will be found not proven and he will be found guilty of the companies fraud charge and fined a pound.

  28. CONNAIRE12

     

     

    What I know is that on here we laugh with those who laugh, and cry with those who cry.

     

     

    Prayers said for you and yours kind Sir

     

     

    HH jamesgang

  29. What is the Stars on

    BMCUWP

     

     

    Thanks for that,

     

    Yes strangely I miss our old right wing sparring partner.

     

    Though no doubt after his first couple of posts on his return I will be on to tell him to GTF

  30. Delaneys Dunky on

    SFTB, Connaire and Park Rd.

     

     

    Just logged on and sadly read of all your losses of family members. Sincere condolences. May perpetual light shine upon them. May they rest in peace.

  31. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    MULLET AND CO 2 on 25TH APRIL 2017 1:17 PM

     

    From Andrew Black BBC also covering the case via live twitter feed. These tweets follow the admittance of liability.

     

     

     

    ‘Mr McIntyre asked if some kind of payment was made to stop interest running’. (On wee tax case)

     

     

     

    ‘Mr McIntyre says he understands there was not, because of advice at the time that the ruling could be challenged’.

     

     

    ****

     

     

    An example of selective reporting.

     

     

    James Doleman’s Tweets say that liability was admitted on the wee tax case, due to HMRC producing a “side letter”.

     

     

    No mention of disputing the claim.

  32. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    PS

     

     

    He also said that there was no money to pay interest……never mind the claim.

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