For any football club to be licenced to play in Uefa competition it has to be up to date with social taxes. The world wondered why in the years prior to their liquidation owing tens of millions to HRMC, Rangers managed to remain up to date for every licence application (made through the SFA).
Football authorities are bound by certain limitations. They can oblige clubs to make them aware of any overdue taxes, but if this information is not forthcoming, they have no powers to demand information from the tax authorise. In short, if you lie, you will get away with it, until and unless you are caught.
Nor can football authorities deal in information of dubious probity. “Some guy on the internet gave me this document” which they should not legally be in possession of, is not the basis to charge a club.
At Craig Whyte’s trial at Glasgow High Court this morning, former director of former Rangers, Donald McIntyre, faced questions from defending counsel and also former director of former Rangers, Donald Findlay.
McIntyre was shown a document dated 2010 from HMRC to Rangers saying tax for PAYE and National Insurance was due on Rangers Discount Options Scheme (DOS), involving players Tore Andre Flo, Craig Moor and Ronald de-Boer was “payable in full”. This tax was never paid and £500k of interest accrued until the club went into liquidation.
McIntyre told the court Rangers had “no choice but to accept liability” as due to the existence of a “side letter”.
Despite this, Rangers signed off their licence application in March 2011, which enabled them to take Scotland’s Champions League qualification spot for season 2011-12.
The irony of this information coming out in a fraud trial will not have escaped you. Some key points:
Information that Rangers were overdue to HMRC prior to their Uefa licence application in 2011 has been confirmed by a competent officer of the company for the first time, in open court.
Rangers DOS scheme for Flo, Moore and Ronald De-Boer was not subject to the SPL’s Lord Nimmo Smith Commission inquiry and has not, thus far, been investigated.
Mr McIntyre is still in the witness box giving evidence.
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Mike in Toronto
Do you not have the CQN square sausage recipe?
The real sausage not the illegal telly one :-@)))
MWD
MWD …
I do … but that’s not really the point!
Its The Code … you dont steal your pal’s girl… or his roll and sausage … its The Code!
I think in Texas, both are still hanging offences!
M I T
Absolutely shocking news!
I share your pain.
Stay strong!
However, should you seek revege…
If you get the chance…
…p*ss in his bovril!
HH n rock n roll (and square sausage n broon sauce!)
A player picking up a hamstring injury at this stage can be safely ruled out for the rest of the season.
As long s there is no major damage, then he should be fit and well rested for the qualifiers.
Only thing is, that he’ll have to wait till next year to play in the Cup Final.
TTR
Or no turd left unstoned :)
Tallybhoy … I just spat out my drink there! LOL
Final bow for Kris Commons?
Hmmm.
I think Brendan will know if it is justified or not.
Personally, I will go with that, as he will know the ins and outs of what went on, if anything, during Ronnie Deila’s reign.
Thomthethim…
If we are still unbeaten, I think BR will keep a pretty steady team … which would mean no run out for KC.
As for what went on behind the scenes, and whether KC blotted his copybook, I have no idea… but KC did a lot for the bhoys … and BR seems like a pretty hard but fair guy, so I am sure he will do the right thing.
CONNAIRE 12,
So sorry about your losses.
MIT
I understand your pain but we are talking an extra roll n sausage here. It is something that each of us would struggle with.
Right guys, who here would have eaten that roll n sausage:
Hands up
\o/
MWD
thomthethim for Oscar OK on 25th April 2017 7:03 pm
Final bow for Kris Commons?
Hmmm.
We are running out of striking options? LG will need time to get match fit? Aitchison lacks experience? Sinclair can play thru the middle though.
My sincerest condolences to all those on here who have suffered the loss of loved ones recently.
Thoughts and prayers with you all.
*?
MWD
MWD
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et tu, MoonbeamsWBrute?
:)
MWD
I’ll try that again!
\o/
MIKE IN TORONTO on 25TH APRIL 2017 6:44 PM
Disturbing revelation. I hope you have good people around to console you. It’s Original Sin at its worst.
A question: is a BOUNDER worse than a CAD?
According to John James, McCoist is witness no79 on the list. That’s some list. It will be interesting to see how Donald QC tackles D Murray. As for the Glib and Shameless one, who would bet against him perjuring himself inside out. Also wondering if Campbell O is on the list.
Donald Finlay on his sacking from Ibrox for sectarian singing.
“Looking back I daresay one thing about 1999 that did annoy me was, so many of the people who were critical of me for what I did, did exactly the same thing. It was the level of hypocrisy about the whole thing that staggered me the most.” ~ Donald Findlay on his Rangers exit.
A revenge mission from Findlay?
79 witnesses, is there a list somewhere ?
how many with EBT’s ?
PatMcGrath …
I had to look that one up! Some use them interchangably, but they seem to be different things…. best I can make out …
It seems that a ‘cad’ is a man who is aware of the codes of conduct which seperate a gentleman from a ruffian, but finds himself unable to quite live up to them.
A bounder is One who doesn’t know his place. One whose ambition leads him to step out of line or exceed his proper social standing.
So, I would say that, while neither is good, a cad is considerably worse.
Have the young Celts got a cup final tonight?
(Against the mankies)
BBC telly news at approx 6:40 reporting, rather pathetically, on the Whyte trial. End of report. news just in…ex-Celtic Boys Club number one up on child abuse charge. Christ, they couldn’t have squeezed it in tighter. Jackie Bird, I’m disappointed with you. Expect it from hurting Huns but did I detect a wry smile from you there? Some Hun joker on continuity must think this is funny. Nothing funny about any of this and if crimes have been committed then be damned with you…but the rush to even up a bad Hun story!!!! And, honestly, this was the first time I’ve watched this programme in about 4 years. Nae wonder I get all my news from CQN
Good evening fellow cqn’rs, just back from a 10k run; I’ve put quite a fair bit of weight on recently:)
MIT – In my defence I was extremely hungover Sunday morning due to my pre game celebration Saturday night that involved a curry and a right good swally. I scoffed the first two rolls and sausage during the game and yours got tanned after the game.
Anyhoo greetin face, Saturday the rolls will be back on offer; set yer sat nav tae Toronto CSC;)
slainte
tony
MiT,
Brendan is had, but fair, right enough.
But (don’t start a sentence with and,but or so), he is also a consummate professional.
He hasn’t felt the need to use him so far, so I can’t see him playing him now.
To give him a ten minute cameo, would, I think, be patronising and disrespectful.
As for what he did for the bhoys?
That’s what his pay cheque was for.
Big Jock admitted to only making one sentimental player selection.
That was to give Stevie Chalmers the nod in Lisbon, due to the amount of work he put into the Dukla second leg game, where he single handed kept the home defence busy.
Personally, I don’t expect to see Kris again in a Celtic shirt.
A club with the right ethos.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/24/sports/soccer/welcome-to-the-worlds-coolest-kindergarten.html?_r=0
TTR,
Trust Mc.Coist to jump the queue,
He must have though the Court was Greggs, as he was first to be called.
Mike,
I would say then that, by your definitions your man, Torontony is a CAD, no less.
Moderator! Moderator! Surely, that has to be a yellow card for taunting!
And the worst bit of all … I think it is my turn to buy dinner this week, isn’t it?!
:)
… or even a blackguard
… a scoundrel, a knave.
PatMcGrath … I can see this turning into something akin to a MontyPython skit …. which is not a bad thing, mind.
Fan-a-tic
There is also a playgroup which overlooks the pitch at Vale Park and operates during the week.
I suspect some of them stay behind and play for us at the weekend :))
MIT
Provided that Torontony did NOT call it a roll and slice, then I’m afraid no crime has been committed.
If you can offer evidence to the contrary then I will reconsider this judgement.
utter, uttering In Scotland there is no criminal offence of forgery, instead the offence is called uttering and contains a mental element of knowledge that the article is false along with intention to deceive and a physical element which requires the sending of the false document. Closely tied up with fraud.
Roll’nSausage gate could bring down world governments!
UN on standby for multi-national peace keeping mission.
Philbhoy
Glas to see I’m not the only other who’d have done a TorontoTony sausage theft.
Na wait! That doesn’t sound appropriate. :-@)))
MWD
MIT – Yes it’s your round and it’s my birthday on Sunday so I might need a wee glass of tinto to wash my dinner doon.
Regarding sausage gate, I was lucky to get three finished and the rolls were a bit bigger than the normal wee ones and the sausage (I did not say slice) were bigger tae.
Back on my Lisbon diet on Monday.LOL
slainte
tony