For any football club to be licenced to play in Uefa competition it has to be up to date with social taxes. The world wondered why in the years prior to their liquidation owing tens of millions to HRMC, Rangers managed to remain up to date for every licence application (made through the SFA).
Football authorities are bound by certain limitations. They can oblige clubs to make them aware of any overdue taxes, but if this information is not forthcoming, they have no powers to demand information from the tax authorise. In short, if you lie, you will get away with it, until and unless you are caught.
Nor can football authorities deal in information of dubious probity. “Some guy on the internet gave me this document” which they should not legally be in possession of, is not the basis to charge a club.
At Craig Whyte’s trial at Glasgow High Court this morning, former director of former Rangers, Donald McIntyre, faced questions from defending counsel and also former director of former Rangers, Donald Findlay.
McIntyre was shown a document dated 2010 from HMRC to Rangers saying tax for PAYE and National Insurance was due on Rangers Discount Options Scheme (DOS), involving players Tore Andre Flo, Craig Moor and Ronald de-Boer was “payable in full”. This tax was never paid and £500k of interest accrued until the club went into liquidation.
McIntyre told the court Rangers had “no choice but to accept liability” as due to the existence of a “side letter”.
Despite this, Rangers signed off their licence application in March 2011, which enabled them to take Scotland’s Champions League qualification spot for season 2011-12.
The irony of this information coming out in a fraud trial will not have escaped you. Some key points:
Information that Rangers were overdue to HMRC prior to their Uefa licence application in 2011 has been confirmed by a competent officer of the company for the first time, in open court.
Rangers DOS scheme for Flo, Moore and Ronald De-Boer was not subject to the SPL’s Lord Nimmo Smith Commission inquiry and has not, thus far, been investigated.
Mr McIntyre is still in the witness box giving evidence.
A note of caution: this is all new information, and anyone who tells you there is an easy way to navigate to the desired outcome is almost certainly overlooking a great deal. It has taken time and patience to get here, both of which are still needed. The banner above is a manifestation of someone else’s neurosis. It’s not the actual truth, so realise this or, as they say, keep taking the pills. What you can be assured of, is that no stone will be left unturned.
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McJay has shaved his head and joined a Buddhist Leninist group in the Northern Territory as we speak he is chanting…
Bad Winston
Bad Winston
Bad Winston
Bad Winston
Mags,
I don’t think that it really matters at this stage whether Whyte is found guilty or not.
It is about what is revealed in court re the operation and links with the SFA, of RFC i L.
CONNAIRE12
Prayers said for all those in need.
God bless.
SFTB
So saddened to hear the terrible news about your brother – and your hero – Danny.
You will have no doubt fantastic memories of him over the course your lives, including many Celtic memories.
I hope you can take comfort in these memories going forward.
God rest him.
Tully
Sincerest condolences to SFTB, like many on here thinking of you.
The way you handed the troll that is Rudicantfail his backside on a plate after he had a snide dig at the Lions was superb.
Big thanks to all those at CQN Bookstore. Book and t-shirt arrived and spot on in size and quality.
Hail Hail
Everyone who was allocated a ticket for Sunday should be guaranteed a ticket for the Final. The only requirement for the Semi Final was membership of the home ticket scheme. The first match away at Albion Rovers was not a requirement.
CONNAIRE12
So sorry to hear of your loss.
Joe,R I P
SFA Reforms
Sevco keeper can handle ball outside of penalty box
John Beaton csc
Sevconians who have been fretting over how to catch Celtic need no longer worry. Former player Willie Henderson has solved the thorny problem………..spend £50 million!…………….Hahahahahahahahahahaha
CONNAIRE12
Prayers offered for your family.
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So WTC was an overdue payable.
It has been a big year of Article 50’s…
SFTB and CONNAIRE
My thoughts are with you both at this very difficult time.
Beaton referee and Madhun 4th official. An absolute Hun fest on Saturday. Make no mistake, Beaton hates us.
CONNAIRE12
Sorry to read of your sad loss my friend, best thoughts and prayers with you and your family.
YNWA
I’m on the home ticket scheme and have been offered a ticket for all the hamdump games over the last few seasons.
Good piece by Tom English on the beeb website. Comparing us with Sevco – by saying we can’t be compared!
DAVIDOPOULOS
The WTC was never at any time viewed by oldco as an overdue payable.
It was viewed as a minor inconvenience which would be sorted by a friendly in a position to do so.
As always.
A question arises from CW decision not to pay VAT,PAYE,or any other form of taxes when CW was in charge.
Bearing in mind that there is a company strongly suspected of tax fraud for a number of years,why was the fact that no remittances were made to HMRC for a number of months-nine,at least!-allowed to happen?
Who was the case officer?
RIP Van Winkle?
It stinks,mate. All the way up and down. And there is an HMRC employee with his finger in the pie who allowed it.
Apologies to the many honest HMRC employees
Connaire
Terrible time for you and your family
Take care,
Had to pinch myself in High Court this am watching Findlay dragging incriminating evidence from the ex Finance Director. Evidence which shd be invaluable in forcing our implicit football authorities to finally face consequences of their actions and in actions. Corporate cannibalism!
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
It stinks,mate. All the way up and down. And there is an HMRC employee with his finger in the pie who allowed it.
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What’s it got to do with Hearts??
Oh sory, HM*R*C…
Agreed, a civil servant was either an enabler or a buffoon.
I don’t think it was Rip Van Winkle, more like one of the Billy Goats Gruff…
Connaire12
Terrible times
Thoughts and prayers
HH
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 25TH APRIL 2017 1:48 PM
Was it not deemed to be a new enterprise by HMRC and so therefore not in their system?
I’m sure I read that somewhere regarding the failure to submit PAYE returns.
Wouldn’t it be ironic if Findlay bursts all the hun bubbles, he said last year they were a new club after all….
The club won’t change their allocation process from the semi final to final. All HCTS members will be offered the opportunity to purchase tickets first and any further ballot will be dependent on that uptake and corporate sales. Our allocation will be the same as the semi final or maybe slightly more.
The normal punter may see an increased chance of tickets as corporate day trippers might not fancy this and it’s cost.
BMCUW
You’re preaching to the converted and posted regularly about
“assaults on Celtic players” at Swinecastle to name but two incidents
in just one season.
We have a daisy chain of ‘blundering’ referees queuing up for their ‘old firm’ debut and now we have the latest in John Beaton who not only is involved in at least ‘an honest mistake ’ per week , but has serious a Sevcoitis bent.
The list is long and Celtic cannot be passive just because we are winning, each game builds trouble for the next and whilst we can’t expect to fall foul of the law, we should not be treated differently © John Reid
It couldn’t be Boabby Madhun this week because of his performance the last time, and it’s the rotation of Mibbs. we reside in a country whose stance is that we got a penalty on Sunday because we had the temerity to complain on the internet about the week before.
The Celtic fans should be told, but don’t know what Celtic are doing about it , and they certainly don’t go public anyways,
Peter Lawwell runs Scottish Football don’t cha know CSC
MWD- I think you’re right re BG, good to spoil a few huns’ day though…;) HH
Connaire12 – Thoughts and prayers with your family and yourself at this sad time.
HH
thomthethim for Oscar OK on 25th April 2017 1:28 pm
Doesnt matter. the point Im making is that there will be no consequences.
setting free the bears
my sincere condolences.
BADA
Victorian Dad is going after the arch villain of the piece, Moonbeams?
After the dealine passed for those on the home ticket scheme, the Celtic Website advertised season ticket holders not on the home ticket scheme who bought tickets for our games against Albion Rovers, Caley and St Mirren , could buy tickets for last sunday’s game.
My son and I never got tickets for the Albion Rovers game, I never saw the sale of tickets being shown in the Celtic website , so we never got tickets for the semi final and its highly unlikely we will get tickets through Celtic for the final.
There will two new members of the home ticket scheme for next season now.
He got a Knighthood.
after all the revelations that came out in open court this morning, is it any wonder that certain parties were so desperate for our Hero to cut a deal and avoid a trial. Craigy Bhoy said No and wants to have his say in the dock. Is it any wonder the SFA did not want this case to proceed as they knew only too well what was coming out, and that is only on Day 4… I also suspect that there will a lot more incriminating stuff to come, a lot more.
I dare say wherever Reagan, Olgivlie & Doncaster are today, you can be sure the wifi is turned off their phones! We didn’t know it at the time, but I now understand why the PLC Board kept their powder dry on Resolution 12. never interrupt the enemy, especially whilst he’s making a mistake!! (one of Paul67’s old favourite sayings I believe!!)
Mags,
Going by experience, you are probably correct, but from our point of view, I don’t care if Whyte is jailed, canonised, or elected as the post Independence King of Scotland.
It is the exposure, in a court of Law, of the misdeeds and “negligence” of the football authorities, due to the “irregular” operations of RFCiL.
Connaire
Thoughts with you and yours
I must have missed sftb sad news.
Condolences non the less.
And thoughts with anyone who has also recently suffered a loss.
Ktf