Campbell Ogilvie was interviewed in today’s Scotland on Sunday but he singularly failed to deflect the central criticism of him continuing as president of the SFA despite being a director of Rangers during the period they introduced the controversial EBTs and, allegedly, illegally registered players with the SFA, which Ogilvie was also a director of.
Interviewer, Andrew Smith, asked “Can you see there being an issue with you being SFA president at a time when there is an ongoing SPL investigation into non-disclosure of payments at Rangers that you are directly linked to? You were a director and the secretary who signed off the accounts in November 2001. At that time the EBT scheme was in operation and players were receiving payments that weren’t in their contracts.”
Ogilvie’s response laid bare how inappropriate the situation is: “I was secretary up until 2002. That’s correct. I was a director, that’s correct.”
All he could do in response to the question of how inappropriate his job as SFA president is when Rangers are under investigation for non-disclosure of payments he was “directly linked to” is confirm he was a secretary and director. He didn’t even offer a counter argument.
It was as though he’d been coached, badly, about what to do when you are asked a question you don’t want to answer. Simply not answering the question and making an irrelevant statement treats Scottish football fans like fools.
The truth is he did not and cannot answer the question. If Campbell Ogilvie cannot argue why there is not an issue for him continuing to be SFA president, why is he still SFA president?
Ogilvie confirmed that in March he told Andrew Smith that there were no side contracts and insisted this was “the case to the best of my knowledge”, despite Smith referring him to the recent BBC documentary, the assertions of which have not been challenged.
Readers would have been confused by this ‘knowledge’, that there were no side contracts as Ogilvie immediately denied involvement with player contracts.
This duel position, bearing witness that there were no side contracts, while denying knowledge of player contracts, is wholly inconsistent and, in itself, reasons enough to for his dismissal.
One of the most intriguing comments from Ogilvie was “I might have signed some documents from time to time. I certainly didn’t do the player negotiations, I didn’t do the contracts.”
He “might have signed some documents from time to time”. Oh dear.
If he signed some documents active in this scandal “from time to time”, for pity sake, just go. Pack your bags, apologise profusely and get out of Scottish football.
We await to hear who conducted the inquiry into Ogilvie which allowed Stewart Regan to clear Ogivlie, but if this shoddy testimony informed their decision, the scandal at the heart of the SFA has taken on a new dimension.
Rumours that the SFA did not conduct an inquiry into Campbell Ogilvie and that chief exec, Stewart Regan, spoke inappropriately in order to save the skin of his pal, remain unfounded.
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KK
She was only the bakers daughter but she needed the dough……….
KK
I was a wee bit out of order there, too much of the vino tinto tonight.
Never have enough dough, the wife would be a superb cook, makes the most wonderfull cakes and the like, but she needs a good education in the bread making :>)
ET…you are a good man.especially when you invite them back for a dip in your lovely pool! Hh
CO using the Bill Clinton defence.
“I definitely did not have sex with that woman.”
TET , if you’ve tried to record a prediction and it’s not gone in , contact me and sport guru .
Kikinthenakas ,
WP – win point . 1 point for each correctly predicted result , i.e. a Croatia win.
MP – margin point – for predicting correct gap , e.g. if you predicted 3-1 to Croatia you’d get 0.5 for correct (2 goal) margin ,0.25 for correct goals for Croatia and 0.25 for correct goal for Ireland giving you an additional 1 point . If you’d predicted 2-0 , you’d get 0.5 for correct margin.
BP – bonus point awarded to players closest to result – not too sure about this one !
All in all , seems to be working ok .
We have 170 taking part and it seems that i’m even behind people who aren’t predicting !!
Sanna
OMG
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2157368/Martin-Petrov-hunted-Rangers.html
How stupid are they? lol
HH
johann
I must admit I have never invited any back for a drowning…sorry, dip, if they have been that way inclined,
Chemicals cost a fortune
P67
I think SPL Chairmen keen for quick resolution and plans afoot to accelerate matters…
sanna
Not a bother.
I posted the other night about a couple of scores that came up different after I posted them,
I might be ok with France beating england 4-1, in my dreams…
I done good today with the bookies tho,Spain under 2.5 and Ireland over 3.5,
I was trying to cut down, but an adict is an adict, worse than any other addiction is the gambling, it’s a curse…..
Mea Culpa.i think it smacks more of a big boy came in and did it then ran away excuse !!. Shameful but nothing new .
et ,,drowning :))))
Same paper has us selling a player (what a surprise)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2157391/Victor-Wanyama-lined-QPR.html
So we are selling n h*ns are buyin?
Move along timmy nothin to see here
HH
TET ,
HH
I thought it had recorded a couple of my predictions differently but I think it’s the way they lay them out .
Fortunately , gambling is something that’s never , ever (fingers crossed) pressed my buttons – i’ve never even put a line on in the bookies .
quite happy to admin the predictor – just as well , cos it looks like i aint gonna win it.
sanna
My mate had a betting shop in Dublin, some of the stories he told were horrendus, guys would come in and blow their wages within mins, sad, sad state of affairs.
A good friend had a problem, he went to a gambles anon meeting one night, yer man told him to go away and come back when he was at rock bottom, he said he was at the bottom, yer man told him that his leather jacket was worth 50 quid, he was nowhere near the bottom, it shocked him enough to change his ways.
Night bhoys
Take care and god bless Timland
HH
KTF
BBC: ‘investigates club finances’ refers to RFC(ia), it’s just lazy! Incidentally Cee lo Green must be filling his Babbity Browsers at the thought of actually ending up with the most toxic brand since ‘hoover flights’.
Sannabhoy
Ta, still disnae make any sense tae me, however I did manage to use ginger Elvis instructions to get itvhd, that was before the drink tho!
So, Ireland, Spain lost their first game in the last World Cup…
By Wednesday rangers XI for new season will read:
McGregor
HUTTON
Wallace
CUELLAR
Bocanegra
GATTUSO
Davis
WANYAMA
PETROV
Naismith
MYSTERY STRIKER (rumoured to be Euros top scorer)
Nothing at all to do with season tickets. The old Laptop Loyal poodles at the best/worst which ever way you look at it.
If you are a creditor would you really accept this? This is a company that can afford to pay their taxes/bills no question just look their wages bill but they have just refused to do so.
However if you look down south Portsmouth are at it again this time offering creditors a mere 2p in the pound.
Football and administration shouldn’t be allowed to happen.
Same old, same old MSM.
What wi’ aw the bad noos aboot oor favrit club, we huv tae fin’ sumin gid tae print.
“OK lads, get doon the pub. Any gid roomers aboot oor club, or bad noos aboot them fenian scum and it’s a bonus tae ye. Dinnae worry aboot the truth. It’s no been a proablum afore. We huvtae fin’ sumin oor readers want tae see.”
Knuckledraggers Inc.
Portmouth FC CVA Proposals Sent To Creditors
Trevor Birch, a partner at PKF and the joint administrator of Portsmouth Football Club (2010) Ltd, has today (June 8) sent proposals to the club’s creditors for a Company Voluntary Arrangement (CVA)
He said: “We have written to all of the club’s creditors to inform them of the CVA proposals, which are based on an offer made by Balram Chainrai’s Portpin.
“We believe that these proposals are likely to give the best possible deal for creditors and provide the most realistic opportunity for protecting the club’s financial position going forward and avoid liquidation.
“There has been a considerable amount of interest in the club over the past few months but nobody has been able to prove their ability and willingness to complete on a purchase other than Portpin.”
Portpin proposes offering creditors £500,000 in cash as an upfront payment. In addition, Portpin will settle in full the club’s debts to charities, small local businesses owed less than £2,500 and part-time club employees who are owed wages prior to the administration and who worked for the club during administration. A further £500,000 will be offered to creditors if Portsmouth returns to the Premier League within five years.
As a result, PKF estimates that unsecured creditors will initially receive approximately 2p in the pound under the terms of the CVA – although this may rise if Portpin and the administrators succeed in convincing the administrator of Convers Sports Initiatives to waive its claim.
The offer from Portpin is conditional on creditors voting in favour of the CVA and certain players agreeing to compromise their future contractual entitlements.
PKF believes that unsecured creditors would not receive any payment if the club is forced into liquidation.
Birch continued: “We have invited all creditors to a meeting at Fratton Park on Monday, June 25 at which they will get an opportunity to vote on the proposals. If the CVA is accepted, it will pave the way for Portpin to acquire the club before the start of next season.
“PKF will continue to work with Portpin, The Football League and the Professional Footballers’ Association to finalise a long-term and sustainable business plan for the club.
“There is still much to do, but Portsmouth Football Club is now a step closer to leaving administration and returning to stability.”
Chainrai said of the proposal: “I am delighted that a CVA proposal has now been recommended to creditors.
“This proposal has been designed to ensure that the club’s current financial position has as minimal an impact as possible by ensuring that charities, local businesses and certain employees that have supported the club whilst in administration do not lose out and are paid in full.
“If approved, the proposal will also ensure the club’s survival and give the club an opportunity to steady itself and get back on its feet after a troubled few years.
“Ultimately the CVA is conditional upon reducing the wage bill of the club and agreeing compromise agreements with certain players, but we are confident that the administrators will be able to deliver this.
“The club’s recent history has been well documented but we remain committed to seeing this through, so as to get Portsmouth Football Club into a financially secure position off the field and to improve the club’s fortunes on it.
“The approval of the CVA is vital to this plan as it will ensure that the club does not start the new season with a further points deduction, which is obviously crucial to the club’s chances of returning to the Championship the following season.
“I would therefore urge all creditors entitled to vote on the CVA to follow the recommendation of the club’s administrators and vote in favour of the CVA, so as to help save the club and get it back to the position that it should be in.”
Absolute power corrupts absolutely and the SFA is absolutely corrupt.
Always was always will be. Its just a bunch of self serving huns.
Celtic parasites.
The only reason this has got “out of hand” is that they stepped out of their Scottish comfort zone and the Non Scottish institutions involved are having none of it. They are watching their Rome burn and they don’t care.
Time Celtic did something like sue them.
In my opinion this is corporate fraud of the most egregious nature that should be rewarded with jail time for all those involved. It is obvious that the EBT’s were used to complement salaries for Rangers employees. What is everybody waiting on? So far no punishment except the 10 pts for going into administration in February.They are even talking about signing players. Meanwhile the SFA is searching for whataboutery.
Ireland today reminded me of a club closer to home when meeting superior fitter and smarter European competition. Great team spirit and great fans but pish at fitba.
Withe the 2 ex Celtic players the pishest..McGeady and Keane!
A wee bit of service might have helped!
doubt it
no hungry enough stars
no good enough sodjers
Ireland DID play like a Celtic European team tonight.
Plenty endeavour, tactically inept. 4- 2- 4; and don’t anyone try and convince me that it was 4-4-2.
Two wingers and two strikers = 4-2-4.
It killed the two boys who are midfielders.
Like Celtic, their luck ran out and Ireland lost goals at critical points in the game.
I hope
Neil Lennon took notice of how successful teams are playing and improve the fitness levels and work rate of his players.
Control the midfield and you control the game. Ditch route one.
G’night all.
Agree on the poor display, but Aiden was left isolated, bit harsh to point the finger.
Anyway, G’night Bhoys/Ghirls.
Boa noite,
Shockin non pen in the Ireland game today – or so we all thought.
Other than that, the main topic of today’s ramble was who released the “Funky Cool Medina”
Canny remember? Neither could we.
Answer here..
The topic of today’s pub (music) debate…
Words and Racism.
Ukraine and Poland.
Time will tell.
Murder or kill?
I was driving through Pennsylvania recently and stopped for some gas (petrol).
As I got back into my car I read one of these advertisements outside of a
church across the road. I mostly ignore these as religion to me is big business. This one caught my eye though because it was the 10 commandments in a live text neon sign being electronically written out one by one digitally.
Gimmickery is big business too!
#6 was interesting. “Thou shall not Murder”.
Really? When I was at school it read “Thou shall not Kill”.
Why the diff?
Ah religion is a business. Its right wing. Borders on Fascism in America.
Are invariably Republican supporters which makes them corporate worshipers too and indirectly war worshipers. America loves a good war. Heroes. Kill the bad guys.Hollywood. Kick some ass.
America loves a good killing, and guns. Check out today’s news or yesterdays or any days. I watched the Sunday morning hunters show today between the religious programs where some guy blew away an elephant and a rhino in South Africa. Oh the danger and the thrill of it all. So why murder and not kill? Well an Earthly judge will determine whether it was murder or not and if you are found not guilty then you can kill at will. Like you do in a war.God will love you for it and we can make a few bucks too. Come on dont be so niggardly.
Bit harsh on Aiden, I thought Trappatoenail got it tactically wrong tonight. Aiden spent most of the game in no man’s land. Team sat too deep. Keeper had an Alan McKnightmare.
BBC website – I’m going to try and find out who exactly is responsible for updating it. Their conduct is questionable to say the least. It took them 4 days to acknowledge the Huns 10 point deduction and now this pash! Not happy. I pay a license fee for impartial service and all I get is an agenda AGAINST OUR CLUB. It has to be challenged.
nothappycsc
Art of War on 11 June, 2012 at 01:47 said:
Aiden played left back so that Ward could play inside left back.
Margaret – you also post on KDS?
There are very few people who heard this sung live in a wee republican club in 1971/72
As a thirteen year old I did not know the genius I was witnessing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzBQ3gyLHd4
Thought I would teach myself a wee bit about being a Company Secretary. Got to Wiki and one other site and gave up. Basiclly it is a position which if abused could end up in jail time.
A Company Secretary is a senior position in a private sector company or public sector organisation, normally in the form of a managerial position or above.
Despite the name, the role is not a clerical or secretarial one in the usual sense. The company secretary ensures that an organisation complies with relevant legislation and regulation, and keeps board members informed of their legal responsibilities. Company secretaries are the company’s named representative on legal documents, and it is their responsibility to ensure that the company and its directors operate within the law. It is also their responsibility to register and communicate with shareholders, to ensure that dividends are paid and to maintain company records, such as lists of directors and shareholders, and annual accounts.
The Company secretaries in all sectors have high level responsibilities including governance structures and mechanisms, corporate conduct within an organisation’s regulatory environment, board, shareholder and trustee meetings, compliance with legal, regulatory and listing requirements, the training and induction of non-executives and trustees, contact with regulatory and external bodies, reports and circulars to shareholders/trustees, management of employee benefits such as pensions and employee share schemes, insurance administration and organisation, the negotiation of contracts, risk management, property administration and organisation and the interpretation of financial accounts.
Company secretaries are the primary source of advice on the conduct of business and this can span everything from legal advice on conflicts of interest, through accounting advice on financial reports, to the development of strategy and corporate planning.
Since 6 April 2008 there has been no requirement for a private company in the UK to have a company secretary unless the company’s articles of association state otherwise. If a private company doesn’t have a company secretary then the duties that would otherwise have belonged to the company secretary will fall on the directors of the company. A public company in the UK must still have a formally appointed company secretary.
The exact responsibilities of the company secretary depend on the size and nature of the company and there is no statutory definition of what these are, but it generally includes some or all of the followingmaintaining the company’s statutory registers;
• updating the records held by Companies House;
• maintaining the registered office;
• managing and storing the company’s records; and
• organising the company’s board meetings and annual general meeting.
• In view of the important roles the company secretary plays in business, PLCs and large companies require the company secretary to be suitably trained, experienced and professionally qualified for these responsibilities.
• In the UK, the company secretary may be qualified by virtue of examination and membership of the Institute of Chartered Secretaries and Administrators (ICSA), which is the only qualification specifically for company secretaries. ICSA is the only body dedicated to the advancement and recognition of professional administration based on a combination of degree-level studies, carefully vetted experience and sponsorship by two people of professional status. Only a person thus qualified is entitled to be designated a ‘Chartered Secretary’ or ‘Chartered Company Secretary’.
HOW TO BE A COMPANY SECRETARY. APPOINTING THE COMPANY SECRETARY. WHAT DOES A COMPANY SECRETARY DO?
The company secretary is the chief administrator of the company. This guide: explains some of the main responsibilities of a company’s officers. The Companies Act requires every company to have a secretary and, as far as PLCs are concerned, stipulates levels of experience and qualification for such appointees. The range of duties undertaken by company secretaries is probably as numerous as the numbers of companies in existence, which makes general guidance regarding their duties somewhat difficult. This section seeks to highlight the main areas required to be undertaken by most company secretaries. The importance of the role is sometimes underestimated – not least because the word ‘secretary’ is often confused with other uses of the word.
THE ROLE OF THE COMPANY SECRETARY
Good secretaryship, like good administration, tends not to be seen but to play its part with quiet efficiency. This lends to underplay the vital importance of the role of the company secretary as: guardian, ensuring fulfilment of the company’s obligation to comply with legislation. Facilitator, easing communication between the board and management. Confidant, supporting all members of the board and particularly the Chairman and chief administrative officer of the company (including being a legal “officer” of the company with all the attendant responsibilities and liabilities that description entails – Section 744, Companies Act 1985).
Former Master of the Rolls, Lord Denning defined the Secretary as “the chief administrative officer of the company – he regularly makes representations on behalf of the company and enters into contracts on its behalf. He is entitled to sign contracts – all such matters come within the ostensible authority of the company secretary”. Since then the role has gained an increasing prominence – likely to be further enhanced by new initiatives in company compliance. In some companies, the company secretary, like Victorian children, may be required to be seen but not heard, only supporting the meeting administratively. But this somewhat restricted view of the role may be short-sighted as the secretary will often have a more comprehensive view of the business under discussion than some members and certainly has an obligation to be fully aware of all legal obligations.
The Cadbury Committee on Corporate Governance recognised the company secretary’s unique position stating: “the company secretary has a key role to play in ensuring that the board procedures are followed and regularly reviewed. The chairman and the board will look to the company secretary for guidance on what their responsibilities are”.
The Cadbury Report also suggested that all directors (and this would apply particularly to non-executive directors, which it regarded as having views that were independent from and potentially more objective than, executive directors) should always have access to the company secretary and that any suggestion of the dismissal or removal of the company secretary should be considered by the whole board.
It is one of the responsibilities of the board to appoint a suitable and capable company secretary and to ensure that the appointee maintains these attributes. In many ways this is his most onerous task since the impact of legislation on companies from many areas is immense and continues to grow and a prime responsibility of the company secretary should be to “keep the company legal”.
If Sir David Murray relieved Campbell Ogilvie of some of his more serious duties – above and beyond the tea and coffee for the week budget – and moved those other ‘harder’ duties outside of Rangers PLC to an unaccountable ‘third party’… is that legal. If Campbell Ogilvie knew about these things going on, (i.e. he was a willing Patsy) and from what he has been previously quoted it would appear he was, then was he not criminally negligent by failing his legal obligation to inform Companies House of any perceived board room shenanigans.
Campbell Ogilvie was given a contract of employment by Rangers; it will have spelled out his duties and responsibilities. On signing that contract he accepts the full accountability of the position and he is solely responsible for the failure of incumbent to professionally fulfill his duties, even if as incumbent in command he is that failure. (and possibly a very well paid moral coward who was party to potential cheating and fraud).
If Campbell Ogilvie was being bullied by Sir David Murray and members of his board to turn a blind eye, and he did as required opposed informing Companies House of his reservations, then I’d suggest that made him complicit, and hence accountable, in all of his roles at Rangers, whether they were legal or not. I might be wrong though, I’m not a lawyer, or an accountant or a very highly paid Company Secretary who was recognised as capable and compliant as evidenced by three ‘bonus’ payments – FREE OF ALL UK TAX.
Margaret – that’s my point, it didn’t work.
ps. Just complained to the BBC about their shameful website about us being under investigation by the SFA.
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QUEEN MARGARET
Maggie this is for you
And leave out thee? stay, dog, for thou shalt hear me.
If heaven have any grievous plague in store
Exceeding those that I can wish upon thee,
O, let them keep it till thy sins be ripe,
And then hurl down their indignation
On thee, the troubler of the poor world’s peace!
The worm of conscience still begnaw thy soul!
Thy friends suspect for traitors while thou livest,
And take deep traitors for thy dearest friends!
No sleep close up that deadly eye of thine,
Unless it be whilst some tormenting dream
Affrights thee with a hell of ugly devils!
Thou elvish-mark’d, abortive, rooting hog!
Thou that wast seal’d in thy nativity
The slave of nature and the son of hell!
Thou slander of thy mother’s heavy womb!
Thou loathed issue of thy father’s loins!
Thou rag of honour! thou detested–
QUEEN MARGARET
I’ll not believe but they ascend the sky,
And there awake God’s gentle-sleeping peace.
O Buckingham, take heed of yonder dog!
Look, when he fawns, he bites; and when he bites,
His venom tooth will rankle to the death:
Have not to do with him, beware of him;
Sin, death, and hell have set their marks on him,
And all their ministers attend on him.