While captain Scott Brown will return to first team action this week, with the league encounter with Aberdeen out of the way, Brendan Rodgers will almost certainly continue to rest players ahead of the teams next meeting in the Scottish Cup Final.
Getting it right for Hampden is only one aspect the manager will be concerned about. Celtic’s first Champions League qualification round starts eight weeks tomorrow, between now and then the entire squad has to get their annual rest period and a significant portion of preseason. Several will also be on international duty four weeks from now.
While you and I want to see out the league programme undefeated, it is more important players are rested for the various cup finals which take place between now and the end of August. The Partick Thistle game on Thursday doesn’t register on what is important.
Celtic FC Foundation
Six days from now, while you are watching Celtic skelp Hearts, I’ll be running my first marathon, in aid of the Celtic Foundation. I’m now in mild panic about what lies ahead, but on this Anniversary month, it’s important that we pay more than lip service to what being a Celtic supporter is all about.
If you are able to, please support the Foundation here. If you are unable to, perhaps you know the Hail Mary…….
Thank you for the unbelievable support I’ve received so far. There will be a time on Sunday when it will fuel the legs.
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TIMALOY29,
I think I will wait on “The second biggest budget in Scotland”being produced,before I will believe anything coming from that pit.Aberdeen may be losing some players,but they are well run.Already they have signed the boy from ICT,who will be a really good player for them.They have a couple of highly rated kids ready to step up.Just what have Sevco got?.A team full of duff players,they will not shift.No money to buy new players.A raving lunatic managing them,and a support frothing at the mouth for success,ready to turn on anyone when it does not appear.A Charlatan ,Glibby,awaiting court cases all summer,which WILL cost them big money.I am afraid you are being lulled by the SMSM and Level 5 bollox.
Aberdeen or Sevco.I know who my money would be on for a future.
Does anybody remember when the huns were so flush (sic) they actually paid Hutton £1,000,000 to get on the plane and sign for Spurs even though he didn’t want to go no matter how many pints the Shankill loyal bought him?
ASMC & BSR
It’s based on UEFA/FIFA categorisation of clubs plus age categorisations. From the seasons between a player’s 12th to 15th birthday the training costs awarded are calculated as if the player is at a Category 4 club – i think that works out at €10k per year (so $40k for Gilmour) then for the 1 year until Gilmour is 16 it will be calculated at the Category 3 level. I think that is €30-40k.
That’s from memory when I checked it out a couple of years ago. The amounts may have risen since, but i don’t imagine they will have increased significantly. The system is designed so that very young players don’t go for exorbitant amounts of money.
Wonderful reading on E Tims Diary today.From the addled minds of a couple of Munters,how Sevco can make money.A must read.Believe me.One wanting to make a Bollywood movie of Sevco and sell it to India !!!!!!!!!!!!.
All the adjectives I can think up for them,redundant after reading this.
Comedy gold.
A STOR MHA
His mere mention is always go for a CQN reposted ” Hutton dressed as Lahm ” CSC
!!Bada Bing!! on 16th May 2017 11:11 am
Remember Dundee Utd got conned by the huns and the SFA, for ‘wonderkid’ Charlie Telfer (me neither), for about £390,000,which is up there with biggest transfers in Scotland in last 5 years.
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I don’t remember it being that much, but I’ll happily accept that I could be wrong. I think the amount was higher as it was within the same national association.
*€40k not $40k
Exchange rate isn’t that bad…
If Aberdeen sign Shaun Maloney as a replacement for Niall McGinn, that’s an upgrade. They’ve signed Tansey from ICT, a better defensive midfielder that Jack so I see them being stronger next season, especially if they sign a better centre half than Ash Taylor. We should also give them Christie on loan for a full season, would do him good.
What happened to morning tea?
Charlie Telfer cost DU £200k, fee decided by tribunal
DAVIDO
CQN’s TBB puts Billy Gilmour’s move at less than 200k.
I’d take his word long before and Sevcs.
I bet Europe cant wait.They will be demanding May forces Brexit before August.
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Standing in the middle of Hungary of something fulla gear singing the sash :whistle:
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Standing in the middle of Hungary of something fulla gear singing the sash :whistle:
Can’t wait. Leipzig made me hungry for more lol
Dear God.
and = any
A STOR MHA CHROI on 16TH MAY 2017 10:55 AM
TIMALOY29:
So Aberdeen lose a few players, maybe, maybe not, how many charlatans and freebies is Pedro going to have to bring in to replace all the crooks (physically), charlatans, freebies and Garneresque fuds?
Pedro it toeing the party line, he knows he has made a boo-boo leaving Qatar and he wants away and he is employing positive reverse psychology to ensure he gets his contract paid in full when he gets sacked.
Checkpoint Charlie, 150 Edmiston Drive, for the chique-est of fenian agents only.
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Aberdeen are set to lose Ryan Jack, Niall McGinn, Ash Taylor & Ryan Christie. That’s some decent players. We’ll see who they replace them with.
The huns will find it difficult to shift the players they currently have. They’ll be rid of Hyndman, Senderos, Hill and Toral this summer.
However, they do have some absolute dumplings on long term contracts.
Contracted until 2020: Jordan Rossiter, Andy Halliday, Jason Holt, Michael O’Halloran and Josh Windass
2019: Tavernier, Garner, Forrester, Hodson, Foderingham
They’ll try and punt who they can but it won’t be easy. They’ll probably have to go again with mostly the same squad.
DAVIDOPOULOS:
Also from memory, I believe that the numbers you quote (from memory) will prove to be much, much, much, much, much, closer to the actual amount that changes hands to that which is being reported as purportedly changing hands.
Withey agrees minute was necessary for Ticketus to release the funds, adds “Mr Whyte was now the legal owner of Rangers”
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TIMALOY29:
agreed that Aberdeen might lose a few players, generally for cash which should be considered.
I’m going to stick my neck out a wee bit here and profess that regards Tavernier, I actually think there is a player in there just dying to find a football team to play for.
Withey says he told Whyte “he didn’t know what he was getting into.” AD “what was his response? “He would laugh.”
@jamesdoleman
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A Stor Mha Chroi on 16th May 2017 11:28 am
DAVIDOPOULOS:
Also from memory, I believe that the numbers you quote (from memory) will prove to be much, much, much, much, much, closer to the actual amount that changes hands to that which is being reported as purportedly changing hands.
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I just had a wee check there, I missed that there are special provisions about players moving between associations within the EU where payments are based on average training costs between two clubs which would bring the number closer to €300k.
It’s all academic anyway. Whatever figure they receive will evaporate as soon as it is received.
Findlay opens by showing the court minutes of a meeting on 9 May 2011 of a “committee of the Rangers board”
Asked if this is signed by the accused Withey replies “As I explained earlier Mr Whyte has many signatures”
Withey says meeting was “notional” and did not take place “these things are prepared in advance” he adds “there’s nothing wrong with that”
Findlay “You have a document which, on the face of it, is completely false, the meeting never took place”
Withey says minute was prepared a few days before “is standard practice”
Withey agrees a client would expect his lawyer to deal with any legal issues Findlay ends cross-examination
The Advocate Depute, Alex Prentice QC rises to re-examine the witness
Withey says minute was prepared because deal was set to be completed on Friday 6 May Agrees it didn’t happen
Withey “Advocate Depute I’m not disagreeing with you” AD “I’m not challenging you”
Withey agrees minute was necessary for Ticketus to release the funds, adds “Mr Whyte was now the legal owner of Rangers”
Withey agrees minute was necessary for Ticketus to release the funds, adds “Mr Whyte was now the legal owner of Rangers
Withey says there were only 5-7 ring binders in the takeover “data room.” Notes “contracts weren’t in there”
Withey “I know there were many holes in the data room..I was never happy we had everything”
“Mr Whyte took a view in was neither here or there”
Advocate Depute suggests “there was an evolution in the data room over time, takes court through the index”
AD “why did you tell Mr Whyte to walk away? Withey “It felt as though there were too many things to be discovered”
Withey “I’d been involved in football clubs before and under the surface it’s very nasty.”
Withey says he told Whyte “he didn’t know what he was getting into.” AD “what was his response? “He would laugh.”
AD “Did you use a notebook” Withey “Yes.” AD “For what purpose’ Withey “To take notes.”
Court shown a page from Withey’ notebook 15.11.10 headed “Charlotte” Witness says was at meeting with Murray lawyers
Reads in part “HMRC won’t negotiate” Withey “That was what was said to me, yes”
AD “You said there was a document sent to the takeover panel that referred to Ticketus” Withey “I didn’t say that”
Judge intervenes “Did you say that yesterday?” Withey “No”
Court adjourns
BMCW
Must have been after I left and got fed up being booted, I’m sure I wasent the only one, but if someone did then thanks, but next time when I ask a Q get on it right away ffs :))
That’s not a lot for a morning’s work. Deflated is me.
From Bears to Bare…
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Withey says there were only 5-7 ring binders in the takeover “data room.” Notes “contracts weren’t in there”
DAVIDOPOULOS;
Is €300,000 near to £150,000? As you say academic, it is spent before it arrives.
Aberdeen 13-14 68 points 3rd
14-15 75 points 2nd
15-16 71 points 2nd
16-17 70 points 2nd (two games to play)
They have been pretty consistent over the last few years.
Just in case anybody is a geek like me and is interested in this kind of things. Celtic players contract expiry
31.05.2021 – Eboue, Griffiths & Tierney
Nailed down for the long term. Unlikely to leave unless the club wants them to.
31.05.2020 – Sinclair, Dembele, Biton, Sviatchenko, Simunovic, Gordon
Interesting group considering they have all been linked with moves away from Celtic. Once again Celtic don’t need to sell any of these players and will only do so if they want to.
31.05.2019 – Rogic, Gamboa, McGregor, Boyata, Forrest, Mackay-Steven, Lustig
Apart from Mackay-Steven, this appears to be a group of players that the club are happy with but weren’t so excited that they were willing to hand over long term contracts. I imagine that if they have a strong season next year they may get a better deal.
31.05.2018 – Brown, Bailly, De Vries, Armstrong, Henderson, Izaguirre
Strange grouping. Likely that Izzy will leave at the end of his deal and the keepers will be lucky to do even that. I’m sure the club will be desperate to get Brown and Armstrong tied down to new deals.
As for Henderson, who knows? Is he playing for his future next year?
31.05.2017 – Ambrose, Commons, Toure
All likely to leave in the summer.
Players out on loan:
31.05.2017 – Fasan, O’Connell
Will be leaving the club
31.05.2019 – Janko, Allan, Christie, Ciftci
Apart from Christie, the club will be actively trying to get rid of them.
31.05.20 – Ajer
Long-term prospect. Likely to go out on loan again for the year.
Good morning – evening here. I was watching BBC news 24 the other day over here and they were doing a feature on Chinese snooker star Ding Junhui and Chinese snooker. Barry Hearn was interviewed and during the discussion made a classic quote that zombieville should take on board:
“You can’t buy history you can only make your own”
A STOR MHA CHROI on 16TH MAY 2017 11:31 AM
TIMALOY29:
agreed that Aberdeen might lose a few players, generally for cash which should be considered.
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McGinn, Jack, Christie and Taylor are all leaving on contract expiry. They won’t be getting a penny.
Like the huns, they will be looking for bosman and loan signings for similar wages. It will be a challenge.
TIMALOY29:
I wasn’t aware that all their contracts has been run down, to be honest (not facetious) I really don’t follow tha Aberdeen players contract status too closely.
Just a point where you name Eboue, Griffiths & Tierney and comment:
“Nailed down for the long term. Unlikely to leave unless the club wants them to.”
I was of the understanding that no contacted player could be forced to leave his club against his wishes.
Read it and weep …
Bobby Madden appointed Scottish Cup final referee
Long long way to go in the court thing .
The jury will be brain dead by now but the defence is collecting bullet points for the judge to use to direct the jury in what looks like being a very long and very messy summing up.
Reward for denying Celtic yon penalty?
McGinn, Jack, Christie and Taylor are all leaving on contract expiry. They won’t be getting a penny.
Like the huns, they will be looking for bosman and loan signings for similar wages. It will be a challenge.
I would think these would be Aberdeens highest earners.jack and Taylor would be no great loss.Easily replaced.They already have a replacement for Jack.Maybe Christie will get another year there.If I were Celtic i would offer them Ajer on loan as well.Get him away from that plastic pitch.
Taylor has a contract offer, yet to accept – no guarantee’s he’ll stay or go. Pawlett going to Rotherham or some other English giants, Jack being tapped by Sevco, if you can believe anything you read in the papers.
Unlike Sevco, Aberdeen have a long history of bringing players through from youth set-up., and they seem to be buying ICT by stealth. Tansey already signed.
If they lose Hayes, then they will be in trouble.
TONYDONNELLY
To be honest,I thought about that-honest!
I was gonna text Masty the info to pass on,,should have done,so apologies for that.
Sorted now,everyone’s a winner.
Time to re-open the Madden Files…
ASTORMHACHROI
No-one will be forced out,but the club will likely look favourably on any offers.
It is then down to negotiation.
I doubt we will go down the Sevco route ala O’Halloran Barton etc.