Points and £1.5m left on the table

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It was a strange game.  Celtic were so far ahead in the opening 20 minutes it was hard to comprehend how Shakhtar Donetsk managed to win so impressively in Leipzig last week.  Our ‘hosts’ soon edged their way into proceedings, scored, and for the remainder of the first half, made Celtic look second best.

At halftime I suspect both teams would have settled for a point.  The second half was significantly less open than the first.  Shakhtar seldom threw men forward and Celtic cut down opportunities for a counterattack.

Had Shakhtar won, our chances of progressing in the competition would have been effectively wiped out.  A draw means we remain very much in control of our own destiny.  The disappointing aspect is, that a win, which should have been achieved, would have almost certainly guaranteed European football of one type after Christmas.

There is also the dirty little subject.  A win was worth £1.5m more than the draw; our potential income pot shrank a little in the Warsaw air.

It is remarkable how Greg Taylor has grown this season.  Repeatedly last night he dragged his body up and down the field, often accepting possession in tight spaces, before mining a way out.  The courage he showed in possession is enormously encouraging.

Sead Haksabanovic was thrown in for his first start; a brave decision by Ange Postecoglou.  The manager will feel justified as Sead played an important part in Celtic’s goal.  Still, Celtic steadied when Daizen Maeda replaced Sead at halftime.  He mitigated the risk from Shakhtar’s left flank; had he started, with Haksabanovic making a late cameo, Shakhtar would have found it more difficult to exploit the space they scored from.

Celtic improved again when Liel Abada replaced the exhausted Jota near the end.  Perhaps bringing Abada on 10 minutes earlier would have made a difference.

Shakhtar’s goal was a consequence of the gameplan, not just a misjudgement in midfield.  Callum McGregor tried to nick an opposition pass 40 yards from goal and missed.  He was out of position and the orange and black shirts snapped up a gear.  Celtic’s play is all about trying to nick a pass in midfield.  It works domestically, (remarkably) worked for a period against Real Madrid and was very effective during the opening 20 minutes last night.

This plan is also energy sapping.  At 25 minutes, the tank needed filled and we suffered until the break.  We need to manage our tempo more carefully.

Later, there was concern until Real opened the scoring on the 80th minute in Madrid.  That win may be just as important as Celtic’s point, come the end of the group.

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  1. A good range opinions so far from the 40+ who have boted so far. 71% have voted for the current leader but 2nd place is only 1 vote behind so please keep the emails coming. SENCELPOTY@GMAIL.COM

     

    Here in Paguera there’s a street festival tonight that ends with a fireworks display at 10.30 (UK time). Results of the MOTM are unlikely till nearer mid night. Hic 😁

  2. The ole reaction to the Celtic fans on Sunday should be some craic…..

     

     

    Maybe we can have a sing off between the unionist Celts blasting out GSTK and the Continuity Green Brigade who’ve rejected Michelle O’Neill’s calls for dacorum, singing about ole Micky Fagan…

     

     

    The CQN attendees can choose to rustle their pocket sweets loudly or not.

     

     

    Very much a personal thing with our broad church of fans..

     

     

    HH

  3. The CQN attendees can choose to rustle their pocket sweets loudly or not.

     

     

     

    Q-eners assemble, to the laptops

  4. Frankterry – Lift your head up and stop making it personal. I am sharing what people are talking about and the adverse affect it has on us as a club and as a support.

  5. The result? Disappointingly acceptable.

     

    The banners? Just disappointing.

     

    I’m unsure what the banner wavers hoped to achieve or feel they have achieved. They’ve certainly tarnished the brand, though i suspect they’re too self obsessed to understand that.

  6. 67 European Cup Winners on

    Last week I had some good debates on here about the Old Lady that passed away

     

    I could have just clicked off the page – but this site gives much joy

     

    Just to remind you – before you assume – my point was – you are entitled to any view on anything – democracy and all that, but FKQ view at this moment in time will drag Celtic into a negative PR circus

     

     

    We have given the Hun and Hun Media what they want – Celtic have to carry the weight of that banner

     

     

    https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1669467/bt-sport-apologise-queen-shakhtar-celtic-champions-league

     

     

    Once again I do not give a toss about anyone’s view on the Crown just don’t drag Celtic into the chaos

     

     

    FFS – The Tricolour in Ireland is at Half Mast the leader of Sinn Fein gives his personal condolences, Westminster Cathedral gives her a blessing the Pope send condolences

     

     

    But Celtic hate her (impression given by the banner)

     

     

    I just find it heartbreaking that we do this to Celtic

     

     

    Hail Hail my friends

     

     

    67ECW

  7. lets all do the huddle on

    why is the whole rigmarole around the royal family so militaristic?

     

     

    i know the monarch is head of the armed forces but they are head or patron of loads of different bodies yet every time there is any sort of royal occassion its all about soldiers

     

     

    surely the new monarch should try modernise the whole set up by easing off on the imperialist past pish and give more prominence to the many public bodies they patron?

  8. 67 European Cup Winners on

    ST TAMS on 15TH SEPTEMBER 2022 5:14 PM

     

    Come on !!

     

    That does not get Celtic off the hook

     

     

    67ECW

  9. Uber Tims vs neo Republicanism vs “Plastic Paddies” — discuss.

     

     

    AM = Cap doffer yellow jersey this week.

     

    Shaky handy woman looks as if she wants to envelope / consume Chuck.

     

     

    And then we have our away support — middle income / coked up / City Break CSC attention seekers trying to shock.

     

     

    Not good.

  10. Why should I be forced to celebrate or respect the life of people who are priviledged, entitled and rich beyond your ken.

     

     

    People whose sole purpose is to ensure their weans get the same treatment and riches for eternity.

     

    Virtually at any cost to the poor or anyone who stands in their way.

     

     

    Bowing and curtsying to queens, king and princes who live in palaces and castles in the 21st century.

     

    (and licking their arses)

     

     

    Some people are more equal than others.

     

     

    Hands up anyone who doesn’t have a food bank in their town?

  11. StT @ 5.14

     

     

    The GB / Away Support brains trust need to up their game.

     

    Trying to be cute doesn’t cut it during National Granny Week.

     

     

    Funny how you / they want to howl at the pomp and the ceremony / street theatre / personalities rather than the economic and political establishment that uses it for pleb control.

     

     

    At best they want to change the flag not change the system — lazy / sloppy / lacking focus.

  12. Never thought I’d read Celtic fans on here crawling up to the crown and there hangers-on, gives me the boak.

     

    Don’t voice any opinions that upset the tory press they’ll say nasty things about us. Hard to see where you’re going from the back of the bus.

  13. Well the upside is that once we get this weekend out of the way, it’s only 7 weeks to a Poppy debate….

     

     

    Then the Not-the-Queens speech is 6 weeks after it…on Xmas day, when giving out presents will be disrespectful (to the middle classes) and unattainable (for the poor folk)….

     

     

    What a time to be alive

     

     

    HH

  14. lets all do the huddle on

    as long as im a tax payer then i will never be told to ‘do nothing’ in relation to how tax payers money is used and wasted

     

     

    that is back of the bus material

  15. lets all do the huddle on

    queens death, covid, remembrance day – all ways in which the state dictates how you should act, what normally perfectly legal things you are not allowed to do and what narrative the media need to peddle

     

     

    welcome to north korea -uk style

  16. Let’s all

     

     

    I saw no mention of tax papers money on the banners last night. I would have applauded such a statement.

     

    I saw our brand being damaged.

     

    What time do you reckon our Commercial dept has their crisis meeting today? Early?

     

    Paul will have an article eventually, confirming the importance of our Commercial team, our brand, our global appeal.

     

    Last night achieved nothing.

  17. We have a game Sunday & then a bloody International Break.

     

    On form we are unbackable to beat St. Mirren but it could be a tough shift.

     

    How many times over the years have we sat through frustrating encounters in the smaller Scottish Grounds,

     

    Owning the ball but failing to put it in the net.

     

     

    We have a 5 point lead plus 17 goals, I just want to increase the lead on the DOBS, even if its only by a single goal.

     

     

    Europe can wait, St, Mirren takes priority.

  18. PB @ 5.20

     

     

    They live in your head rent free.

     

     

    Their gene pool would be classed as weak / dodgy in Norfolk.

     

    Things are so bad they have started nickin’ aboot with egg chasers and the sprogs of gonk sellers.

     

     

    They have a prominence and how does that reflect on modern Britain?

     

     

    Three useless brothers — each with their own special failings in full view and a sister who seems to run the show and who would have never had to face a split pay-packet even if she lived in the Holy City.

  19. 67 European Cup Winners on

    TIMMY7_NOTED on 15TH SEPTEMBER 2022 5:26 PM

     

    This poster is not crawling up to any Crown

     

    This poster is saying do not drag Celtic into anti Crown negative PR

     

    Especially today/this week

     

    The banner in Warsaw did nothing for Celtic

     

     

    I respect people having a view and arguing their point of view – but why do it at Celtic games

     

    Go onto Twitter or the BBC or Sky news all have open forums for discussion

     

    You will meet all sorts on there

     

    But be warned some will disagree with you

     

     

    Keep Celtic out of the debate

     

     

    Hail Hail

     

     

    67ECW

  20. a straw poll, to become a list, to then join a queue …………

     

     

    have you on any occasion in your life had to sing GSTQ or the more recently made popular GSTK ?

     

     

    Me first, a resounding NO

  21. 67ECW, you opinion is that we should not have an opinion, or at the very least keep it to ourselves. Should we stop singing since this upsets some people? Nothing Celtic fans ever do is acceptable to the establishment , who should determine what is acceptable at our games? The huns? The daily mail? The tories?

  22. UNCLE JIMMY on 15TH SEPTEMBER 2022 5:33 PM

     

    Let’s all

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I saw no mention of tax papers money on the banners last night. I would have applauded such a statement.

     

     

     

     

    I saw our brand being damaged.

     

     

    ——————–

     

     

    if i may, what customer base do you think would be upset by that banner ?

     

     

    japanese people maybe because some have high regard for their own monarchy ? possibly maybe.

     

     

    I personally in all my travels in many places, have met people who admire Celtic because of our supporters left-wing elements, our history, our perceived irishness, whisper it but often for our catholic roots.

     

     

    I know others who would never support us because they dont like rod stewart.

  23. 67 EUROPEAN CUP WINNERS on 15TH SEPTEMBER 2022 5:05 PM

     

     

    How you doin fella,

     

    I disagree with you

     

    Celtic fans would be dragged into negative pr-

     

    I don’t think that’s the case,

     

    The crime,the behaviour,the tone its been set up left right and centre since Betty died.

     

    There is nothing we could to satisfy them.

     

    Nothing.

     

     

    As a media they were primed and ready

     

    Ready to show their strata don’t be messed with.

     

     

    We do not need dragged into anything by media I this country

     

    As their ancient anti Catholic rituals show this is big kult at play,not having any of it.At it’s core it is the seat of bigotry on these isles

     

     

    The sycophantic scum press are the same opinion makers who validated goin thro Milly Dowlers bins,

     

    and we are to contort ourselves into what they think.

     

    Never.never(shall I go the full Ian paisley :-)

     

     

    The same sycophantic press,owned offshore likely .

     

    Who will fawn and discuss in anal detail

     

    everything in minutaea ex the cost while people are dieing in poverty….postponed to Tues I believe

     

    Bit like hailing the greatness of empire as past generation of ours decayed in homes or coffin ships or green mouth

     

     

    The bowing and doffing amazes me EC67 primarily on a class level even before we go to history.

     

     

    If anything at least the planet sees dissent.

     

     

    We are not all affected by the death of the only 96 y.o who never worked,never signed on and never even had an ATOS interview in her puff.yet she can run aw those houses and keep them heated

     

     

    HH

     

     

    Hope all good..

  24. Sadly I’m heading home tomorrow so will have to try my best to avoid the mourning Olympics. Never thought I’d get some of it here.

  25. glendalystonsils on

    SAINT STIVS

     

     

    Used to play GSTQ in cinema at the end of films . People would stand but I couldn’t GAF so would just walk out . What has the Queen got to do with the feckin pictures??

  26. So, UEFA have decided to take action against Celtic FC following the behaviour of the Green “Brigade” during a Champions League match in the Polish Capital, Warsaw. The Polish Capital.

     

    This time for decisions made by the Brigade that were so banal and infantile you have to wonder what was going through the Brigadier General’s head. Now I realise that there are some on here who share that same level of infantility when it comes to all things Celtica, but that said, it does not make the actions of the Brigade acceptable, to Celtic FC, to the wider Celtic support, or to those in charge of the Champions League.

     

    Memo to Brigadier. Pin another medal on your chest. You’ve earned it.

  27. glendalystonsils on

    They should have been out on the streets with that banner as the hearse was passing . Show the courage of their convictions by risking arrest , so that they face the consequences , not Celtic football club .

     

     

    For the avoidance of doubt , I am at least as firmly anti-monarchy as any of them .

  28. The banners were inane, self indulgent and counter productive.

     

     

    And, while Celtic’s destiny is controlled by a billionaire tax exile, more than a tad hypocritical.