It was a strange game. Celtic were so far ahead in the opening 20 minutes it was hard to comprehend how Shakhtar Donetsk managed to win so impressively in Leipzig last week. Our ‘hosts’ soon edged their way into proceedings, scored, and for the remainder of the first half, made Celtic look second best.
At halftime I suspect both teams would have settled for a point. The second half was significantly less open than the first. Shakhtar seldom threw men forward and Celtic cut down opportunities for a counterattack.
Had Shakhtar won, our chances of progressing in the competition would have been effectively wiped out. A draw means we remain very much in control of our own destiny. The disappointing aspect is, that a win, which should have been achieved, would have almost certainly guaranteed European football of one type after Christmas.
There is also the dirty little subject. A win was worth £1.5m more than the draw; our potential income pot shrank a little in the Warsaw air.
It is remarkable how Greg Taylor has grown this season. Repeatedly last night he dragged his body up and down the field, often accepting possession in tight spaces, before mining a way out. The courage he showed in possession is enormously encouraging.
Sead Haksabanovic was thrown in for his first start; a brave decision by Ange Postecoglou. The manager will feel justified as Sead played an important part in Celtic’s goal. Still, Celtic steadied when Daizen Maeda replaced Sead at halftime. He mitigated the risk from Shakhtar’s left flank; had he started, with Haksabanovic making a late cameo, Shakhtar would have found it more difficult to exploit the space they scored from.
Celtic improved again when Liel Abada replaced the exhausted Jota near the end. Perhaps bringing Abada on 10 minutes earlier would have made a difference.
Shakhtar’s goal was a consequence of the gameplan, not just a misjudgement in midfield. Callum McGregor tried to nick an opposition pass 40 yards from goal and missed. He was out of position and the orange and black shirts snapped up a gear. Celtic’s play is all about trying to nick a pass in midfield. It works domestically, (remarkably) worked for a period against Real Madrid and was very effective during the opening 20 minutes last night.
This plan is also energy sapping. At 25 minutes, the tank needed filled and we suffered until the break. We need to manage our tempo more carefully.
Later, there was concern until Real opened the scoring on the 80th minute in Madrid. That win may be just as important as Celtic’s point, come the end of the group.
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A minutes applause on Sunday for St Mirren game….
that pen.
https://twitter.com/mcgonnie3/status/1570434796165206017/photo/1
What the feck is the opposite of a minutes applause ??????
Single Subject emergency meeting of the Green Brigade, taking place this pm.
HH
cant say i agree with the minutes applause
ignoring the fact that i dont agree with minutes silence/applause at football games for non-football folk in general
if we are going to have them then my general rule would be a minutes applause for footballing related people and a minutes silence for others. having applause for prime ministers, presidents, monarchs etc just doesnt seem right
but i know why they are doing it on this occassion!
CHAIRBHOY on 16TH SEPTEMBER 2022 11:10 AM
ERNIE LYNCH @ 10:47 AM,
Nor me but those are the facts
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What are?
That a serf did what he was told by his lord and master?
That a serf went to fight for one claimant to the British throne against another claimant to the British throne because he was ordered to do so by his lord and master?
Your ancestors had no choice in what they did or didn’t do.
The idea that they were free people making rational and informed choices is gibberish.
Anyone that doesn’t want to participate in the applause, and I’d be one of them, should simply fold their arms.
Fair enough Ernie re Fagan. Completely new to me.
Astonishing that the minutes applause qualifies as ,Breaking News’ in Scotland. St Johnstone have also scheduled a minutes applause.
Doesn’t matter what the Celtic supporters do they’ll still be demonised.
A minutes applause at St Mitten?
Is that confirmed?
If so, do you think our more radical fans will stay silent?
🤔🤔🤔
If there is a anti monarchy moment at Paisley will the Celtic board issue a statement citing disrespect?
A small point ,if they do they are hypocrites,all directors sitting at the game on Wednesday with club ties on ,should they not had been wearing black ties in respect.HH
Genuine accidental typo
Ironic – if we all wore mittens the minutes applause would be very quiet
SAINT STIVS on 16TH SEPTEMBER 2022 11:14 AM
Good share.
My point is that opinions telling us something’s real good and another thing’s real bad are fine for penny proselytising [esp on blogs] but probably shaky as a device intended to bolsters any individual’s sense of self-righteousness. Judging vs judgemental and all that.
When I wrote ‘pointedly’ mibby I was actually meaning provocatively.
Regardless of the long held political affiliations of many of our fans, it seems today’s context see Celtic ‘the club’ carpeted and cautioned for the passions and ‘media magnet’ materials produced by the political faction.
To that point; were the auldies more cause-driven and less ego-driven than their contemporary counterparts?
Probably just another opinion that’s floated into my ageing scone.
Looks like we will be charged, UEFA Disciplinary Regs. 2019
Under Article 16 (e)
“The use of gestures, words, objects or any other means to transmit a provocative message that is not fit for a sports event, particularly provocative messages that are of a political, ideological, religious or offensive nature”
Rules? Who needs them? Not us
BSR – agreed.
Impish perhaps but the minutes applause at McDiarmid Park (if it transpires) ….
would actually be more newsworthy.
Place is like a library on most match days
Sick to death of this now.Words like”Scum” being used to label some fans.God help you if you had uttered those words in the pubs I know.Fekin Eejit.
I read some trying to tell us all” Times are changing”.Reall. One of their Forums today has more than 200 replies,all vile,sectarian,aimed at Ange because he did not burst into tears at the post match presser on Wednesday,when asked by an agenda fuelledSM hack,his views on the deceased.
One even calling for “Ethnic cleansing” in Scotland.
Might be changing,but for the worse.
Back of that Bus,standing room only.
Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing unless it upsets some peepels agenda as we can see on here.
D :)
UEFA doesn’t mention freedom of speech in their rules
“Give me a country where i can be free …
don’t need no unions burying me”
Change a few words in a couple of verses and bingo!! a perfect recruitment song for the GB .
Oh, a seventies classic into the bargain .
https://youtu.be/wGB59HuKu-I
How about a minute’s Zen applause (one hand clapping)?
MADMITCH @ 10:46 AM,
Well thanks for letting me correct myself, because I didn’t mean that.
Mine and many of us will be the Ancestor of Niall of the Nine Hostages – The Scotia tribe that invaded and plundered the Isle of Great Britain from the Isle of Ireland.
Yet the Nations of Scotland, Ireland and England did not exist then, see below…
ERNIE LYNCH @ 11:25 AM,
Yes, yet the Clan system had many codes and principles that allowed for sustainablity and security, the Kingship of Ireland was elective, moving forward in history is not always a story of modernisation and progression.
But the past is the past and should remain so, the perception in people’s mind and the way memories and concepts are constructed and manipulated seem very real to most people.
If these perceived “differences”, “hurts” and “wrongs” can be manipulated by the rich and powerful they will be. They have no mandate to Govern and rule without it.
Surely reconciliation and building strong modern democracies based on egalitarian principles is what we want on these Isles.
St STIVS et al, you’ll be pleased to know I’m..
… Aff oot
Hail Hail
Maybe the away fans should all just wave and sing “CHEERIO ,CHEERIO, CHEERIO” etc, etc.
Here’s yer list fellas. I’m personally gonna smirk for a minute down here in England.
Can’t jibe and snorting is just unhealthy…no idea what a snicker is but I’m on a diet….
Near Antonyms for applause
boo, hiss, hoot, jeer, raspberry, smirk, sneer, snicker, snigger, snort, whistle
gibe (or jibe), put-down, taunt
Antonyms for applause
booing, hissing
HH
One big mass ‘raspberry’ would be a great spectacle though…..
Pass on to Green Brigade for anyone in the know…
Developing story
HH
FRANK DREBIN on 16TH SEPTEMBER 2022 11:56 AM
How about a minute’s Zen applause (one hand clapping)?
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It can be done.
See how this Buddha in Bermondsey does it a 0.56.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANp1YnwRRvI
DAVID66 on 16TH SEPTEMBER 2022 11:51 AM
Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing unless it upsets some peepels agenda as we can see on here.
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I see on the news that the cult are in favour of free speech provided people don’t actually verbalise what they want to say.
new article posted.
“There is something to be said for that, just working hard for your family and being a decent person. I say it to the players all the time. You can have all the money and the fame, but there is nothing wrong with just being a decent person.”
Big ANGE…👏🥰🤗
Lots of ephebiphobia about today:_
Here’s Plato on the subject:-
“What is happening to our young people? They disrespect their elders, they disobey their parents. They ignore the law. They riot in the streets, inflamed with wild notions. Their morals are decaying. What is to become of them?”
Peter the Hermit (not sharp-suited at all) said in 1274:-
“The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint … As for the girls, they are forward, immodest and unladylike in speech, behaviour and dress.”
and the article I knocked this from here:-
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2009/mar/17/ephebiphobia-young-people-mosquito
Grumpy oul’ men csc
the concept or royalty and royal families is an abomination that should consigned to the dustbin of history.
Descendants of robber barons and organised crime gangs that still control unfathomable amounts of wealth.
BURNLEY78 on 16TH SEPTEMBER 2022 9:15 AM
An T
Thanks for your considered response
B78-I wish I really thought it was a small minority who were at play here. On evidence of the Warsaw visit there was a lot in support of the banners and singing accordingly.
AT -it doesn’t suprise me there is a majority view in support of the banner in the away support.they always have been the most fervent,and have been subject to taking Celtics name in vein since the first brake club hitched up.
B78I know many of us including myself are not pro monarchy and left of Centre politically but I don’t see a consensus in our support (we can see this on here daily/ hourly) which allows any definitive political messages to be put out there as representing our club and support as a whole..
AT-could that be due to Celtic being a political entity since its inception,loathed despised and ridiculed since St Mary’s Hall meeting,and the banner the other night may not have been expressed your way but it is still a sentiment that every Celtic fan would agree to.in a modern day society,
B78-Even in this blog this past day on this specific issue we had some liking the Fagan bit, some the crown some both and some neither.
AT-the fagan bit detracted,imo
B78-Regardless of our view on individual banners it is what the world seeing it interprets it as. We can be pedantic over Crown vs Queen vs Monarchy on a blog but to anyone in the world seeing it then it looks like a disrespectful message from folks at an inappropriate time. Personally I will argue my view and put my views across in the right way as my views as an individual. I don’t expect and would not have the arrogance to expect Celtics name to associate with them or amplify them as these clowns think they should for theirs.
AT- FT crown clowns could be the headline.carry on putting your representations to the club,the club give out the tickets,they should know who they are,no?
B78We do have a common love and for most on here it is near the top of the list and that is Celtic. At a time when we are playing great football and really could be on the cusp of something really special we are dragged into this shit whilst our rivals deflect from their shit on field status and are perceived throughout the world as decent.
AT- yup Celtic is it B78.
The banner will not affect the players on the pitch one little bit.We are playing well and as you say possibly on the cusp of something and that’s going to impact us.i would hope not.The players play,we pay no issue .
B78 I could care less how perceptions work.They are not reality,especially pertaining to a rival who cheated us for 20 years.That reality is conveniently forgotten
What’s the world’s perception on that?
Yep Celtic have some shit to deal with
And the use of the Celtic name gets hauled over the coals in all its sacredness yet silence in the aftermath of inculcated cheating
Yet the Lambegs are let loose as to how this generation of Celtic fans see Celtic.it appears they too are not assimilating well.oh my
B78.Keeping quiet on this would have spoke volumes on this for us for this period at least.
AT I think that would be a romantic dream b78,I first read of Celtic being the only club ‘not to’ conform to various aspects of the mourning Olympics last Thurs night,lizzie was barely in the box. Online the kult police focusing on Liverpool and us. After 43 heckles,someone kult enough attempted to count it was Celtics turn.
And we roll onto Sunday and another minutes silence
I don’t think.hope you enjoy it if you get a ticket
Hope your well,
Celtic have control of tickets at the end of a return key
HH
BACK TO BASICS – GLASS HALF FULL on 16TH SEPTEMBER 2022 9:40 AM
SIONNAIGH @ 1:21 AM
BACK TO BASICS – GLASS HALF FULL
“The misguided, ignorant, young men have been so….for too long now.”
Sionnaigh – thank you for response.
Genuinely appreciate it.
Can I share a secret with you (but you have to promise not to tell anyone) ?
Once upon a time …. I was an ignorant, misguided young man. IMHO.. collective, collaborative solution lies within us all. (the “how” is more complex than the simple statement above of course).
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Me too. There was a war on in North Ireland at the time, which focused the youthful mind to no ends.
This rebellion we’re now witnessing by the youth in our support has no such recourse.
I’ll tell you one thing that’s not two, this episode will blow over alright. Outcome? How low will they sink next time.
I take back “scum”, that was as inappropriate, like the banner.