Prediction: Sir David Murray – will pay a heavier price than anyone

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Sir David Murray bought Rangers in 1988, two years after the arrival of Graeme Souness had kick-started the football club which had spent most of the previous two decades in the shadow of Celtic, then Aberdeen and Dundee United.

Murray maintained the highly speculative transfer policy of previous owner, Lawrence Malborough, achieving considerable domestic success during his first decade at the club.

Last year Celtic Quick News reported his greatest contribution to Scottish football:

“Within a year of taking control of Rangers Murray ended the most blatant sectarian employment policy still in place in Scotland when his club openly signed a Catholic football player for the first time since before World War I. For this, he deserves enormous credit.

“Many of you grew into adulthood in a country where a large part of the population supported a ‘No Catholics at Rangers’ policy.  The sense of shock in 1989 when Rangers signed Maurice Johnston will be difficult to relay to a young reader.  This was a taboo no one thought would end.”

After Martin O’Neill’s Celtic redrew the balance of power in Scottish football, Murray found it difficult to compete.  He also perhaps found it difficult to lose.  A highly controversial Employee Benefit Trust scheme was used to compensate dozens of footballers as well as non-football staff.  The consequences of this scheme, the legality of which has still to be decided, brought the club to its knees.

Murray’s business interests had grown from its initial base in steel to encompass a huge property investment empire.  When the recession brought a tightening of lending criteria and the property crash arrived in 2008, Celtic Quick News predicted Rangers would go out of business.  The clock has been ticking ever since.

Murray sold Rangers to Craig Whyte a year ago, later claiming he was “duped” by Whyte, although former chairman, Alasdair Johnston, today disputes this claim.

All roads of this entire debacle lead back to Murray.

Prediction: Sir David Murray will pay a heavier price than anyone else involved in this mess.  I’ll hold fire for now on what I think will be the more serious consequences but I expect Sir David, along with Ogilvie, Clark, Whitehouse and others will face an SFA Judicial Panel for what has happened at Rangers and that none will work in football again.

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  1. Gene's a Bhoys name on

    Paul67

     

    Unfortunately I am umpiring a 15 over per side cricket match tonight so won’t see the programme live – good old sky plus – however if you let me know what you know i promise not to tell anyone – all other posters turn off your PCs now

  2. Big Swee walks on with Neil Lennon on

    Fans delight: Now there is a song

     

     

    James F Kerr ‏@jfkcfc1963

     

    Paul Murray the blue knight is on the train that the bhoys are coming up the road from Norwich ! Trapped in 1st class ! Classic Murray –

     

     

    James F Kerr ‏@jfkcfc1963

     

    Murray Murray you’ve got no money it’s a rich mans world ! Train rocking ! HH #endgame

  3. Paul67 its about 32 degrees in Berlin at the moment and the articles are not helping me chill.

     

     

    What next for Alistair, I hope he survives as SFL may be his level.

     

     

    On Doncaster his lack of integrity , leadership and lies on sky etc to date are a sacking offence ; even if he wakes up and smells the coffee tomorrow morning it is too late.

     

     

    As I travel and occasionally discuss with Rangers business guys , they are surprised about NDs outspoken views. His time is up and the search should be underway ( Eric J Riley aged 54 non exec could be an interim with integrity until these turbulent times are over).

  4. Tamlaghtduff Bhoy on

    Whats happening tonight? You all talking about the programme on later?

  5. Aberdeen for change.

     

     

    It was with great anticipation and interest to

     

    eventually read the Aberdeen FC board’s

     

    stance on the ever changing Rangers

     

    situation.

     

    Having been contacted by various media

     

    outlets this morning, this is the Aberdeen

     

    for Change view on the club’s statement.

     

    Firstly, its pleasing to hear that the club are

     

    very much aware of Aberdeen supporters

     

    concerns about allowing a newco Rangers

     

    into the SPL with little or no punishment.

     

    What does cause some concern is that

     

    Aberdeen for Change read the statement as

     

    implying that the Aberdeen FC board will

     

    make a decision based on their ‘own’

     

    opinion of what is in the best interests of

     

    AFC and Scottish football. If this is indeed

     

    the case, it is worrying. Surely the

     

    supporters views matter, especially with

     

    many saying they will walk away from SPL

     

    football if newco Rangers are allowed back

     

    with no punishment.

     

    The club’s supporters don’t want to be told

     

    what their opinion should be about what is

     

    a complex situation. We can form our own

     

    opinions on what is right and wrong based

     

    on all the information on the Rangers

     

    situation. The vast majority feel Rangers

     

    have to be punished and that sporting

     

    integrity does matter over perceived fears

     

    over commercial losses.

     

    The statement from the club effectively says

     

    very little. Again, this is understandable but

     

    the club will at some point have to enter

     

    into dialogue with the support into the pros

     

    and cons of Rangers re-entering the SPL

     

    In conclusion, this is a real chance to make

     

    the right decisions for what the AFC fans

     

    want. It’s a chance to right many wrongs.

     

    Think of the amount of trophies and matches

     

    AFC were in some way ‘cheated’ out of by

     

    Rangers inappropriate conduct over the

     

    years.

     

    Most importantly? AFC’s board have made

     

    some hard decisions over the last ten years

     

    to cut costs over the in the long term

     

    interests of the club. Why should Rangers

     

    excesses in this time therefore be ignored?

     

    Over to you Milne and Fraser….

  6. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    When you were young

     

    And your heart was an open book

     

    You used to say live and let live

     

    You know you did

     

    You know you did

     

    You know you did

     

    But if this ever changin’ world

     

    In which we live in

     

    Makes you give in and cry

     

    Say live and let die

     

    Live and let die

     

     

    What does it matter to ya

     

    When ya got a job to do ya got to do it well

     

    You got to give the other fella hell

     

     

    You used to say live and let live

     

    You know you did

     

    You know you did

     

    You know you did

     

    But if this ever changin’ world

     

    In which we live in

     

    Makes you give in and cry

     

    Say live and let die

     

    Live and let die

  7. I am sure Montrose, Clyde, etc will love playing on it…

     

     

    CRUCIAL maintenance work got under way at Ibrox and Murray Park this week thanks to the Rangers Fans Fighting Fund.

     

     

    Money raised by supporters was put towards key renovation work on the Ibrox playing surface and three training pitches at Auchenhowie.

  8. I see you”ve been busy today Paul. Hope you have an hour or so spare tonight to watch a bit of tv.

     

     

    I think that the ramifications of what we will soon be witnessing will take years to play out – and may involve more than just SFA Judicial Panels. I’m certain that there will be civil cases to come and wouldn’t be at all surprised were there criminal ones too.

  9. Is anyone doing commentary on the BBC program tonight? I can’t find anywhere to watch it online, yet.

     

     

    I do have access to Arab Motors and MBC Persia, but I’m not sure either of these stations will screen it.

     

     

    Hail Hail,

     

    KevinBhoy.

  10. merseycelt lmfao as the big house door slams shut on

    “NORWICH City Manager Paul Lambert has thanked Celtic Football Club and their manager Neil Lennon for helping to make Adam Drury’s testimonial a roaring success in front of over 18,000 fans at Carrow Road.

     

     

    Both the Yellow Army and the travelling Celtic fans ensured Adam had a night to remember as City ran out 2-0 winners in front in what was a jubilant crowd to honour his 11 years of impeccable service to the Club.

     

     

    Paul Lambert, who played for Celtic from 1997 until 2005 – and with current Hoops boss Neil Lennon, enjoyed fantastic success with the Scottish Champions, winning nine major honours.

     

     

    Adam Drury is welcomed out onto the Carrow Road pitch for his Testimonial game

     

    GUARD OF HONOUR: Over 18,000 fans turned out to pay tribute to our longest serving player.

     

     

    Lambert told Canaries Player: “Listen, I always say if you’re going to get a testimonial, make sure you get Celtic, because everybody can see what a special set of fans they both are, proper football fans.

     

     

    “I spent eight brilliant years there, and I knew it’d be really fitting if we could get them, and a big thanks to Neil Lennon and Celtic for coming down for somebody that I think deserves a game and an atmosphere like that.

     

     

    “It was a special night for Adam, and I think it was fitting for somebody who has 11 years at the Football Club, and has been terrific for me in the three years I’ve been here.

     

     

    “I know what they are like [Celtic fans], they are an absolutely brilliant set of fans, and it’s there for everybody to see. They’ve one of the biggest fan bases in world football let alone anything else, and a big thanks to them for coming down in their numbers, as I say it’s a long way to come.”

     

     

    Lambert, who addressed the Norwich and Celtic fans on the pitch after the final whistle, admitted that he was pleased to be able to thank them for coming down.

     

     

    “I’ve never really been back, I think only once to Parkhead to watch a game,” said Lambert.

     

     

    “I had eight fabulous years there, I played with great players including Neil Lennon and Alan Thompson themselves. I had a fantastic time and I really, really appreciate it.

     

     

    “With testimonials, you can go out there and just do it in a way that is half-hearted, but I thought the two teams put in a huge effort to entertain the crowd.

     

     

    “I thought it was a good game for a testimonial and I thought it was a fitting game for Adam.””

     

     

    Norwich FC offishul

     

    —–

     

    As well as being a fab player, if a little fragile, I always thought Lambo was one of the good ghuys.

     

     

    Haste ye back, Paul!

     

     

    HH

  11. SEE THIS NEWCO PISH

     

    WI THEM IN THE SPL

     

    WI OOT SANCTIONS

     

    NOT THE ISSUE

     

    START IN SFL 3

     

    SHAMELESS TACTICS FAE DONCATER

     

    OR

     

    PAY YOUR BILLS

  12. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    I can see clearly now, the rain is gone,

     

    I can see all obstacles in my way

     

    Gone are the dark clouds that had me blind

     

    It’s gonna be a bright (bright), bright (bright)

     

    Sun-Shiny day.

     

     

    I think I can make it now, the pain is gone

     

    All of the bad feelings have disappeared

     

    Here is the rainbow I’ve been prayin?for

     

    It’s gonna be a bright (bright), bright (bright)

     

    Sun-Shiny day.

     

     

    Look all around, there’s nothin?but blue skies

     

    Look straight ahead, nothin?but blue skies

     

     

    I can see clearly now, the rain is gone,

     

    I can see all obstacles in my way

     

    Gone are the dark clouds that had me blind

     

    It’s gonna be a bright (bright), bright (bright)

     

    Sun-Shiny day.

  13. Meanwhile, our friends on Follow Follow are unimpressed by the rumoured content of tonight’s programme:

     

     

    BlueNotWhyte

     

    Football is my religion. Ibrox is my church. Join Date: 19-02-2012

     

    Posts: 1,258

     

     

    Re: Daly’s tweets today

     

     

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    Quote:

     

    Originally Posted by Daniel Coll

     

    Mark Daly ‏@markdaly2

     

    Dual contracts? Find out tonight which Rangers players had side letters promising undeclared funds through EBT

     

     

     

     

    Old news rehashed.

     

     

    HMRC had claimed letters constituted a material difference to EBT’s. Financial experts said this not the case as any Business can dress up an employee benefit in any way they see fit and it will not change either parties tax liabilites one iota.

     

     

    Rangers are adamant the letters never existed in the first place.

     

     

    HMRC have since gone quiet on that particular issue. Hardly surprising as their original source, Hugh Adams, had claimed on one hand that such letters definately existed, and on the other that he never actually saw any.

     

     

    Gordy

     

    FF Squad Member Join Date: 24-01-2007

     

    Posts: 633

     

     

    Re: Daly now referring to “undeclared payments.”

     

     

    ——————————————————————————–

     

     

    Toninght’s programme is just another attack on us by Celtic’s media wing. I won’t be watching.

     

     

    Jimmy Henderson

     

    FF Squad Member Join Date: 21-02-2009

     

    Posts: 538

     

     

    Re: Daly now referring to “undeclared payments.”

     

     

    ——————————————————————————–

     

     

    Daly and his paymasters along with other morons will use this to try and discredit us. Another stuttering fool

     

     

    Daniel Coll

     

    Trialist Join Date: 14-10-2011

     

    Posts: 72

     

     

    Daly’s tweets today

     

     

    ——————————————————————————–

     

     

    Mark Daly ‏@markdaly2

     

    Dual contracts? Find out tonight which Rangers players had side letters promising undeclared funds through EBT

     

     

    Mark Daly ‏@markdaly2

     

     

    Biggest EBT beneficiaries named, did Whyte really “dupe” Sir David and questions over the administrators. Tonight at 8

     

     

     

    There was me thinking this program was going to be fair. Another hammering it seems

     

     

     

    PRW

     

    God save the Rangers Join Date: 09-07-2011

     

    Posts: 3,349

     

     

    Re: Daly now referring to “undeclared payments.”

     

     

    ——————————————————————————–

     

     

    I see its went from second contracts to side letters.

     

     

    i.e. no dual contracts imo

     

     

    Vidmar

     

    “I went off like Krakatoa.” Join Date: 28-07-2006

     

    Posts: 5,956

     

     

    Daly now referring to “undeclared payments.”

     

     

    ——————————————————————————–

     

     

    On Twitter.

     

     

    I’m not sure how these can be “undeclared” given EBTs were referenced in our accounts for a decade before HMRC moved the goalposts. Either way, while exposure of dodgy dealings on behalf of ****y custodians is welcome, make no mistake, the thrust of the programme will be ‘voiding’ match results where certain players who used EBTs were involved. Those players will be named tonight and I’d wager Daly will do a ‘look what would’ve happened’ comparison on the basis we lost each ‘EBT match’ 0-3.

     

     

    Daly will muddy the waters as much as he can, despite no EBT ruling as yet. He’s no friend of ours.

  14. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    From a biological perspective, the Krakatau problem refers to the question of whether the islands were completely sterilized by the 1883 eruption or whether some life survived. When the first researchers reached the islands in May 1884, the only living thing they found was a spider in a crevice on the south side of Rakata’.

     

     

    ‘At least I’m no’ a Hillbilly’ said the spider gazing out through his hundreds of eyes at the cataclysmic devastation, before he ran under a rock, of which there was a profusion.

     

     

    The spider’s name was Lucky.

     

     

    -FTLT. Ole Paul67s busier than Mo Bangura’s barber the day.

  15. traditionalist88 on

    Post on RTC:

     

     

    ‘A series of completely fictional events flowing perfectly as per the original fairy story master plan

     

     

    23 May – B-Day – Blame Day for AJ / SDM / CW – TU will not Block CVA [or approve] + Daly Report

     

    28 May – TU Launch claim against CW

     

    30 May – SPL vote to confirm Newco to be allowed back into the SPL – Resignations demanded

     

    1 June – Professional players leave

     

    6 June – D-Day – Creditors reject CVA if they get one. Notice to wind up / CVL

     

    7 June – First day for D+P as interim CVL liquidator – Court action notice

     

    8 June am – Padlocks

     

    8 June Noon – Penny Drops

     

    8 June pm – EUROS 2012 Opens

     

    17 June – SFL Fixtures Published

     

    18 June – SPL Fixtures Published

     

    21 June – CVL Liquidator nomination by creditors – Court Actions

     

    28 June – TU + CW contest in court

     

    1 July – EUROS 2012 – Final

     

    4 July – CVL Liquidator confirmed – Court Actions

     

    5 July – Valuation of assets

     

    19 July – Notice of Sale of Assets

     

    28 July – TU + CW contest in court – Winner Announced

     

    3 August – Receipt of offers for assets

     

    4 August – SPL Season Starts

     

    14 August – D+P issue six month report to the courts and creditors

     

    15 August – Authorities call in CW / SDM / TU / LBG and their Lawyers for a wee chat on the set-up

     

    16 August – SFA call in SPL for a wee chat

     

    17 August – UEFA call in SFA for a wee chat

     

    18 August – Sale of assets notification to – `Preferred` Buyer – Court Actions for months…..’

  16. South Of Tunis on

    David Murray .

     

     

    Knocked back by the Board of Directors of a skint and desperate Ayr United in 1988 . They thought he was ” dodgy “.

  17. Tamlaghtduff Bhoy on 23 May, 2012 at 15:20 said:

     

     

    True mate. I’d have deleted it by now.

     

    I’d have probably kept the game that was on the other channel, though never have watched it again, never have, don’t know if I ever will.

  18. Tamlaghtduff Bhoy on

    Oh yes Doc i shall be tuning in. It works out well because thats on 8-9 and the apprentice is on from 9-10. If carlsberg done wed nights!!

  19. Thank you for the days,

     

    Those endless days, those sacred days you gave me.

     

    I’m thinking of the days,

     

    I won’t forget a single day, believe me.

     

     

    I bless the light,

     

    I bless the light that lights on you believe me.

     

    And though you’re gone,

     

    You’re with me every single day, believe me.

     

     

    Days I’ll remember all my life,

     

    Days when you can’t see wrong from right.

     

    You took my life,

     

    But then I knew that very soon you’d leave me,

     

    But it’s all right,

     

    Now I’m not frightened of this world, believe me.

     

     

    I wish today could be tomorrow,

     

    The night is dark,

     

    It just brings sorrow anyway.

     

     

    Thank you for the days,

     

    Those endless days, those sacred days you gave me.

     

    I’m thinking of the days,

     

    I won’t forget a single day, believe me.

     

     

    Days I’ll remember all my life,

     

    Days when you can’t see wrong from right.

     

    You took my life,

     

    But then I knew that very soon you’d leave me,

     

    But it’s all right,

     

    Now I’m not frightened of this world, believe me.

     

    Days.

     

     

    Thank you for the days,

     

    Those endless days, those sacred days you gave me.

     

    I’m thinking of the days,

     

    I won’t forget a single day, believe me.

     

     

    I bless the light,

     

    I bless the light that shines on you believe me.

     

    And though you’re gone,

     

    You’re with me every single day, believe me.

     

    Days.

     

     

     

    Ray Davies is a prophet.

     

     

    “They think it’s all over…it is now!”

     

    Kenneth Wolstenholme.

  20. Can someone confirm if Duff&Duffer have to take action today to get a vote by Creditors done on June 6th.

  21. Tamlaghtduff Bhoy on 23 May, 2012 at 15:25 said:

     

     

    That’s your night sorted! though if the docs as good as the lead up I think I might venture back onto here to see what everyone thinks, give The Apprentice a miss.

     

    Enjoy the programme.

  22. traditionalist88 on 23 May, 2012 at 15:23 said:

     

     

    Now that would be a long hot summer of fun.

     

    Don’t know if my liver could cope, ice cream and jelly can have a bad effect on the ole liver dontcha know.

  23. I expect many of us to be disappointed with tonight’s programme. Not because the content is watered down and not because it’s not hard hitting.

     

     

    I believe that for nearly 18 months we’ve been spoiled by the work done by several members of the Celtic family not least our esteemed host on CQN. I don’t expect Daly to divulge much that is new to us, though I could be well wide of the mark here, but the significant thing is that he has a platform on which to reach a much wider audience.

     

     

    After tonight there will be no hiding place for those at fault there will be no refuge for those who cheated and lied. After tonight everyone will know and they won’t be able to label it as the ramblings of a shower of ‘internet bampots’ who have really known all along what was going on.

  24. A lot of songs on here today.My choice is a Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem song

     

     

    Brennan of the news

     

    Brennan of the news

     

    Bold Brave and undaunted

     

    Was Paul Brennan of the (CQ) news

     

     

    Celtic fans always have a song for our greats

     

    Keep up the good work Paul67

  25. Happy 40th Birthday Navanbhoy!!!

     

     

    Milk it, you can get anything on your 40th!! Honest!!!

  26. traditionalist88 on

    Doc is Neil Lennon

     

     

    we’ll just have to learn to cope eh!

     

     

    HH

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